the image in the first post is the new one?
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the image in the first post is the new one?
the image in the first post is the new one?
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Going and try to get the image update out tomorrow or tuesday so there is a least a built in protection for rare edge cases like this.
when will we have the next release?
thks.
Sorry we had to do a kernel upgrade to the base system get some things we needed, which broke other stuff and this took way longer than planned. Image is currently done, just doing testing over the weekend and should be out on monday.
Hey JStef - do you have a changelog available so we can appreciate the work you've done beforehand?
tentative changelog below:
ChangeLog
-system kernel updated to 4.19 for fixes and reliability
-lowered CPU aggressiveness to keep MCU cooler for better reliability
-enabled low level hardware watchdog, this fixes the very rare issue some people were reporting and any system failure or hardware monitor failure will now cause a system reboot and prevent unit from overheating
-reduced SD card writes from hardware monitor to increase SD card life
-you can now manually set fan to a minimum of 5%
-you can now edit pools directly instead of deleting and re-adding
-added settings option to enable local bfgminer API access
-stratum pool difficulty is now displayed in dashboard instead of discarded shares
-OS will now automatically expand SD card to maximum size on first boot
-multiple dashboard visual fixes
-lots of hardware monitor bug fixes
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Going and try to get the image update out tomorrow or tuesday so there is a least a built in protection for rare edge cases like this.
when will we have the next release?
thks.
Sorry we had to do a kernel upgrade to the base system get some things we needed, which broke other stuff and this took way longer than planned. Image is currently done, just doing testing over the weekend and should be out on monday.
Hey JStef - do you have a changelog available so we can appreciate the work you've done beforehand?
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Going and try to get the image update out tomorrow or tuesday so there is a least a built in protection for rare edge cases like this.
when will we have the next release?
thks.
Sorry we had to do a kernel upgrade to the base system get some things we needed, which broke other stuff and this took way longer than planned. Image is currently done, just doing testing over the weekend and should be out on monday.
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Going and try to get the image update out tomorrow or tuesday so there is a least a built in protection for rare edge cases like this.
when will we have the next release?
thks.
...I plugged to the SATA line the only thing I had at hand, i.e. a small SSD drive, that pulls exactly 5V 1A.
And it worked!! AWESOME, the 3rd Apollo has been mining and stable for one odd hour (vs. shutting off power after a few seconds or just one minute) and I think that this smart little trick solves the issue very nicely.
The bottom line - beware of cheap non-modular PSUs but if you use one keep it "alive" by plugging something to the 5V rail.
Now I am thinking
what can I add to this set (I need to keep my SSD) for my friend so to make the whole thing work. Maybe a fancy USB gadget like a mini-vacuum cleaner or a few USB fans would do, plus a SATA to USB adapter cable of course - any ideas?Ah, @philipma1957, thanks for the links to better PSUs, the modular ones around 500-650w are my personal bet for powering up bundles of 2-3 Apollos if I buy a few more of them.
Again , thanks to everybody for your very helpful insight.
Haha wow learn something new every day. I guess they must use the 5v rail to power the 12v mosfets....thats a dirty and cheap trick but would explain why the 12v rail fails on higher loads.
If you have to power the 5v rail with something anyway would be cool to retrofit a 5v USB hub and hook up some moonlanders to it
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Now I am thinking
what can I add to this set (I need to keep my SSD) for my friend so to make the whole thing work. Maybe a fancy USB gadget like a mini-vacuum cleaner or a few USB fans would do, plus a SATA to USB adapter cable of course - any ideas?Ah, @philipma1957, thanks for the links to better PSUs, the modular ones around 500-650w are my personal bet for powering up bundles of 2-3 Apollos if I buy a few more of them.
Again , thanks to everybody for your very helpful insight.
Get a usb fan
7 hours do download the apolo_final.img.zip? any mirror available? just received 2 units and i don't want to wait, bruuu
Its hosted on a high speed AWS server....where are downloading from?
on 20 mbs line, but already downloaded ...
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Yea thats definitely a faulty PSU, especially if all Apollos are running fine with a bigger PSU, and the fault happens even when you switch different Apollo units.
450 W PSU should not be tripping with a 150W load.
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I think the chances were 99:1 that I had bought a faulty PSU due to its behaviour after swapping all the boxes from the suspicious PSU to the bigger one I had, yes.
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I recall older ATX power supplies required some load (something in the 1A range) also on the 5V rail in order to keep the 12V rail stable. That may still apply to cheaper power supply models.
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...I plugged to the SATA line the only thing I had at hand, i.e. a small SSD drive, that pulls exactly 5V 1A.
And it worked!! AWESOME, the 3rd Apollo has been mining and stable for one odd hour (vs. shutting off power after a few seconds or just one minute) and I think that this smart little trick solves the issue very nicely.
The bottom line - beware of cheap non-modular PSUs but if you use one keep it "alive" by plugging something to the 5V rail.
Now I am thinking
what can I add to this set (I need to keep my SSD) for my friend so to make the whole thing work. Maybe a fancy USB gadget like a mini-vacuum cleaner or a few USB fans would do, plus a SATA to USB adapter cable of course - any ideas?Ah, @philipma1957, thanks for the links to better PSUs, the modular ones around 500-650w are my personal bet for powering up bundles of 2-3 Apollos if I buy a few more of them.
Again , thanks to everybody for your very helpful insight.
Hi everybody
I have been mining non-stop 15+ days in a row with the following setup:
PSU corsair CS750M, powering up two Apollo units working in ballanced mode, all the other values set in auto (default) and via ethernet LAN.
I am very satisfied with their simple setup and robustness (restart and mine again in case of power off etc).
A few days ago my 3rd Apollo unit arrived, this one is not for me but it's a gift for a friend of mine who has an absolutely non-technical soul so it has to work unattended, forever
I bought a brand new PSU, this time a smaller 450 W corsair VS450 and prepared the initial setup as before but with only one unit attached.
To my surprise, afterwaiting a few seconds for the initial system load and get it reg/green blinking, the PSU shuts off.
I suspected a power surge or something coming from the 3rd Apollo.
The shut off happens after doing the full load and not before.
To start isolating the problem my workaround was using my former rig with the older, bigger PSU feeding all three boxes and let it run overnight. The whole system went on mining whitout any problems.
When I did further crossovers - e.g. using one of the older units with the new 450w PSU, the sudden shut off happens again so it seems that it is not something from a specific miner - unless I'm wrong of course.
I judged too unlucky that the corsair PSU could be responsible of the problem as it's a quality brand.
But the issue is driving me bonkers. I do not know how to go on.
Atm I was about to order a PSU replacement but I'd like to share with you here in case I'm missing something or there is a known incompatibility or other issues I may have oversighted before returning the 450w psu to the shop.
Your ideas will be much appreciated - Thanks in advance!
I have been mining non-stop 15+ days in a row with the following setup:
PSU corsair CS750M, powering up two Apollo units working in ballanced mode, all the other values set in auto (default) and via ethernet LAN.
I am very satisfied with their simple setup and robustness (restart and mine again in case of power off etc).
A few days ago my 3rd Apollo unit arrived, this one is not for me but it's a gift for a friend of mine who has an absolutely non-technical soul so it has to work unattended, forever
I bought a brand new PSU, this time a smaller 450 W corsair VS450 and prepared the initial setup as before but with only one unit attached.
To my surprise, afterwaiting a few seconds for the initial system load and get it reg/green blinking, the PSU shuts off.
I suspected a power surge or something coming from the 3rd Apollo.
The shut off happens after doing the full load and not before.
To start isolating the problem my workaround was using my former rig with the older, bigger PSU feeding all three boxes and let it run overnight. The whole system went on mining whitout any problems.
When I did further crossovers - e.g. using one of the older units with the new 450w PSU, the sudden shut off happens again so it seems that it is not something from a specific miner - unless I'm wrong of course.
I judged too unlucky that the corsair PSU could be responsible of the problem as it's a quality brand.
But the issue is driving me bonkers. I do not know how to go on.
Atm I was about to order a PSU replacement but I'd like to share with you here in case I'm missing something or there is a known incompatibility or other issues I may have oversighted before returning the 450w psu to the shop.
Your ideas will be much appreciated - Thanks in advance!
garbage psu. return it and buy something better.
what country do you live in?
I will give you some links for a good psu
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Certified-Refurbished/Power-Supplies/CS-Series%E2%84%A2-Modular-CS550M-%E2%80%94-550-Watt-80-PLUS%C2%AE-Gold-Certified-PSU-%28Refurbished%29/p/CP-9020076-NA/RF
or keep this one and give him your one that works
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-G2-0650-Y1
7 hours do download the apolo_final.img.zip? any mirror available? just received 2 units and i don't want to wait, bruuu
Its hosted on a high speed AWS server....where are downloading from?
Hi everybody
I have been mining non-stop 15+ days in a row with the following setup:
PSU corsair CS750M, powering up two Apollo units working in ballanced mode, all the other values set in auto (default) and via ethernet LAN.
I am very satisfied with their simple setup and robustness (restart and mine again in case of power off etc).
A few days ago my 3rd Apollo unit arrived, this one is not for me but it's a gift for a friend of mine who has an absolutely non-technical soul so it has to work unattended, forever
I bought a brand new PSU, this time a smaller 450 W corsair VS450 and prepared the initial setup as before but with only one unit attached.
To my surprise, afterwaiting a few seconds for the initial system load and get it reg/green blinking, the PSU shuts off.
I suspected a power surge or something coming from the 3rd Apollo.
The shut off happens after doing the full load and not before.
To start isolating the problem my workaround was using my former rig with the older, bigger PSU feeding all three boxes and let it run overnight. The whole system went on mining whitout any problems.
When I did further crossovers - e.g. using one of the older units with the new 450w PSU, the sudden shut off happens again so it seems that it is not something from a specific miner - unless I'm wrong of course.
I judged too unlucky that the corsair PSU could be responsible of the problem as it's a quality brand.
But the issue is driving me bonkers. I do not know how to go on.
Atm I was about to order a PSU replacement but I'd like to share with you here in case I'm missing something or there is a known incompatibility or other issues I may have oversighted before returning the 450w psu to the shop.
Your ideas will be much appreciated - Thanks in advance!
I have been mining non-stop 15+ days in a row with the following setup:
PSU corsair CS750M, powering up two Apollo units working in ballanced mode, all the other values set in auto (default) and via ethernet LAN.
I am very satisfied with their simple setup and robustness (restart and mine again in case of power off etc).
A few days ago my 3rd Apollo unit arrived, this one is not for me but it's a gift for a friend of mine who has an absolutely non-technical soul so it has to work unattended, forever
I bought a brand new PSU, this time a smaller 450 W corsair VS450 and prepared the initial setup as before but with only one unit attached.
To my surprise, afterwaiting a few seconds for the initial system load and get it reg/green blinking, the PSU shuts off.
I suspected a power surge or something coming from the 3rd Apollo.
The shut off happens after doing the full load and not before.
To start isolating the problem my workaround was using my former rig with the older, bigger PSU feeding all three boxes and let it run overnight. The whole system went on mining whitout any problems.
When I did further crossovers - e.g. using one of the older units with the new 450w PSU, the sudden shut off happens again so it seems that it is not something from a specific miner - unless I'm wrong of course.
I judged too unlucky that the corsair PSU could be responsible of the problem as it's a quality brand.
But the issue is driving me bonkers. I do not know how to go on.
Atm I was about to order a PSU replacement but I'd like to share with you here in case I'm missing something or there is a known incompatibility or other issues I may have oversighted before returning the 450w psu to the shop.
Your ideas will be much appreciated - Thanks in advance!
Yea thats definitely a faulty PSU, especially if all Apollos are running fine with a bigger PSU, and the fault happens even when you switch different Apollo units.
450 W PSU should not be tripping with a 150W load.
Hi everybody
I have been mining non-stop 15+ days in a row with the following setup:
PSU corsair CS750M, powering up two Apollo units working in ballanced mode, all the other values set in auto (default) and via ethernet LAN.
I am very satisfied with their simple setup and robustness (restart and mine again in case of power off etc).
A few days ago my 3rd Apollo unit arrived, this one is not for me but it's a gift for a friend of mine who has an absolutely non-technical soul so it has to work unattended, forever
I bought a brand new PSU, this time a smaller 450 W corsair VS450 and prepared the initial setup as before but with only one unit attached.
To my surprise, afterwaiting a few seconds for the initial system load and get it reg/green blinking, the PSU shuts off.
I suspected a power surge or something coming from the 3rd Apollo.
The shut off happens after doing the full load and not before.
To start isolating the problem my workaround was using my former rig with the older, bigger PSU feeding all three boxes and let it run overnight. The whole system went on mining whitout any problems.
When I did further crossovers - e.g. using one of the older units with the new 450w PSU, the sudden shut off happens again so it seems that it is not something from a specific miner - unless I'm wrong of course.
I judged too unlucky that the corsair PSU could be responsible of the problem as it's a quality brand.
But the issue is driving me bonkers. I do not know how to go on.
Atm I was about to order a PSU replacement but I'd like to share with you here in case I'm missing something or there is a known incompatibility or other issues I may have oversighted before returning the 450w psu to the shop.
Your ideas will be much appreciated - Thanks in advance!
I have been mining non-stop 15+ days in a row with the following setup:
PSU corsair CS750M, powering up two Apollo units working in ballanced mode, all the other values set in auto (default) and via ethernet LAN.
I am very satisfied with their simple setup and robustness (restart and mine again in case of power off etc).
A few days ago my 3rd Apollo unit arrived, this one is not for me but it's a gift for a friend of mine who has an absolutely non-technical soul so it has to work unattended, forever
I bought a brand new PSU, this time a smaller 450 W corsair VS450 and prepared the initial setup as before but with only one unit attached.
To my surprise, afterwaiting a few seconds for the initial system load and get it reg/green blinking, the PSU shuts off.
I suspected a power surge or something coming from the 3rd Apollo.
The shut off happens after doing the full load and not before.
To start isolating the problem my workaround was using my former rig with the older, bigger PSU feeding all three boxes and let it run overnight. The whole system went on mining whitout any problems.
When I did further crossovers - e.g. using one of the older units with the new 450w PSU, the sudden shut off happens again so it seems that it is not something from a specific miner - unless I'm wrong of course.
I judged too unlucky that the corsair PSU could be responsible of the problem as it's a quality brand.
But the issue is driving me bonkers. I do not know how to go on.
Atm I was about to order a PSU replacement but I'd like to share with you here in case I'm missing something or there is a known incompatibility or other issues I may have oversighted before returning the 450w psu to the shop.
Your ideas will be much appreciated - Thanks in advance!
I recall older ATX power supplies required some load (something in the 1A range) also on the 5V rail in order to keep the 12V rail stable. That may still apply to cheaper power supply models.
Hi everybody
I have been mining non-stop 15+ days in a row with the following setup:
PSU corsair CS750M, powering up two Apollo units working in ballanced mode, all the other values set in auto (default) and via ethernet LAN.
I am very satisfied with their simple setup and robustness (restart and mine again in case of power off etc).
A few days ago my 3rd Apollo unit arrived, this one is not for me but it's a gift for a friend of mine who has an absolutely non-technical soul so it has to work unattended, forever
I bought a brand new PSU, this time a smaller 450 W corsair VS450 and prepared the initial setup as before but with only one unit attached.
To my surprise, afterwaiting a few seconds for the initial system load and get it reg/green blinking, the PSU shuts off.
I suspected a power surge or something coming from the 3rd Apollo.
The shut off happens after doing the full load and not before.
To start isolating the problem my workaround was using my former rig with the older, bigger PSU feeding all three boxes and let it run overnight. The whole system went on mining whitout any problems.
When I did further crossovers - e.g. using one of the older units with the new 450w PSU, the sudden shut off happens again so it seems that it is not something from a specific miner - unless I'm wrong of course.
I judged too unlucky that the corsair PSU could be responsible of the problem as it's a quality brand.
But the issue is driving me bonkers. I do not know how to go on.
Atm I was about to order a PSU replacement but I'd like to share with you here in case I'm missing something or there is a known incompatibility or other issues I may have oversighted before returning the 450w psu to the shop.
Your ideas will be much appreciated - Thanks in advance!
I have been mining non-stop 15+ days in a row with the following setup:
PSU corsair CS750M, powering up two Apollo units working in ballanced mode, all the other values set in auto (default) and via ethernet LAN.
I am very satisfied with their simple setup and robustness (restart and mine again in case of power off etc).
A few days ago my 3rd Apollo unit arrived, this one is not for me but it's a gift for a friend of mine who has an absolutely non-technical soul so it has to work unattended, forever
I bought a brand new PSU, this time a smaller 450 W corsair VS450 and prepared the initial setup as before but with only one unit attached.
To my surprise, afterwaiting a few seconds for the initial system load and get it reg/green blinking, the PSU shuts off.
I suspected a power surge or something coming from the 3rd Apollo.
The shut off happens after doing the full load and not before.
To start isolating the problem my workaround was using my former rig with the older, bigger PSU feeding all three boxes and let it run overnight. The whole system went on mining whitout any problems.
When I did further crossovers - e.g. using one of the older units with the new 450w PSU, the sudden shut off happens again so it seems that it is not something from a specific miner - unless I'm wrong of course.
I judged too unlucky that the corsair PSU could be responsible of the problem as it's a quality brand.
But the issue is driving me bonkers. I do not know how to go on.
Atm I was about to order a PSU replacement but I'd like to share with you here in case I'm missing something or there is a known incompatibility or other issues I may have oversighted before returning the 450w psu to the shop.
Your ideas will be much appreciated - Thanks in advance!
Since the first two have been working just fine swap the newest one with one of the older units and power supply. And for fun move one of your older apollos to the new power supply
Hi everybody
I have been mining non-stop 15+ days in a row with the following setup:
PSU corsair CS750M, powering up two Apollo units working in ballanced mode, all the other values set in auto (default) and via ethernet LAN.
I am very satisfied with their simple setup and robustness (restart and mine again in case of power off etc).
A few days ago my 3rd Apollo unit arrived, this one is not for me but it's a gift for a friend of mine who has an absolutely non-technical soul so it has to work unattended, forever
I bought a brand new PSU, this time a smaller 450 W corsair VS450 and prepared the initial setup as before but with only one unit attached.
To my surprise, afterwaiting a few seconds for the initial system load and get it reg/green blinking, the PSU shuts off.
I suspected a power surge or something coming from the 3rd Apollo.
The shut off happens after doing the full load and not before.
To start isolating the problem my workaround was using my former rig with the older, bigger PSU feeding all three boxes and let it run overnight. The whole system went on mining whitout any problems.
When I did further crossovers - e.g. using one of the older units with the new 450w PSU, the sudden shut off happens again so it seems that it is not something from a specific miner - unless I'm wrong of course.
I judged too unlucky that the corsair PSU could be responsible of the problem as it's a quality brand.
But the issue is driving me bonkers. I do not know how to go on.
Atm I was about to order a PSU replacement but I'd like to share with you here in case I'm missing something or there is a known incompatibility or other issues I may have oversighted before returning the 450w psu to the shop.
Your ideas will be much appreciated - Thanks in advance!
I have been mining non-stop 15+ days in a row with the following setup:
PSU corsair CS750M, powering up two Apollo units working in ballanced mode, all the other values set in auto (default) and via ethernet LAN.
I am very satisfied with their simple setup and robustness (restart and mine again in case of power off etc).
A few days ago my 3rd Apollo unit arrived, this one is not for me but it's a gift for a friend of mine who has an absolutely non-technical soul so it has to work unattended, forever
I bought a brand new PSU, this time a smaller 450 W corsair VS450 and prepared the initial setup as before but with only one unit attached.
To my surprise, afterwaiting a few seconds for the initial system load and get it reg/green blinking, the PSU shuts off.
I suspected a power surge or something coming from the 3rd Apollo.
The shut off happens after doing the full load and not before.
To start isolating the problem my workaround was using my former rig with the older, bigger PSU feeding all three boxes and let it run overnight. The whole system went on mining whitout any problems.
When I did further crossovers - e.g. using one of the older units with the new 450w PSU, the sudden shut off happens again so it seems that it is not something from a specific miner - unless I'm wrong of course.
I judged too unlucky that the corsair PSU could be responsible of the problem as it's a quality brand.
But the issue is driving me bonkers. I do not know how to go on.
Atm I was about to order a PSU replacement but I'd like to share with you here in case I'm missing something or there is a known incompatibility or other issues I may have oversighted before returning the 450w psu to the shop.
Your ideas will be much appreciated - Thanks in advance!
7 hours do download the apolo_final.img.zip? any mirror available? just received 2 units and i don't want to wait, bruuu
Hiya,
miner stopped 2 times in 36h with no option than hard restart of Apollo. Miner restart nor reboot system in GUI make miner go back to work.
Any indication in syslog about miner failure?
miner stopped 2 times in 36h with no option than hard restart of Apollo. Miner restart nor reboot system in GUI make miner go back to work.
Any indication in syslog about miner failure?
The syslog is gone if you end up needing to power cycle the Apollo in order to get it rebooted or responding again. The logs are stored in ram and only synced back to sd card if the shutdown is graceful. If the error situation is caused by something the kernel sees then some information is likely to end up in the log. However, thermal information isn't being logged.
Hiya,
miner stopped 2 times in 36h with no option than hard restart of Apollo. Miner restart nor reboot system in GUI make miner go back to work.
Any indication in syslog about miner failure?
miner stopped 2 times in 36h with no option than hard restart of Apollo. Miner restart nor reboot system in GUI make miner go back to work.
Any indication in syslog about miner failure?
After last night overheating incident. I decided to speed up my quest to find a better power supply (quiet than my current Bitmain APW3), I had the suspicion that APW3 is way too much of a PSU for these FutureBit Appollo miners, at least in terms of noise levels but potentially on power too.
I am running two Apollo miners in our family room, the home thermostat is set to 68F (~20C) on central heating so the temperature is pretty constant all day and night. This afternoon after paying a visit to Fry's electronics store I got a Corsair RM 650x PSU, figure out how to jump start the ATX mother board signal and got the whole setup going. The noise levels are not only tolerable but insanely low compared with the APW3 previous setup. The new PSU fan barely turns on due the threshold is around 230W and even loading the two Apollo miners it has not gone over that threshold at this time yet.
I will keep monitoring the Apollo miner that got overheated and definitely report back if it happens again. Currently this Miner is running at 67C and and MCU at 63C, sometimes the MCU temperature is higher than the sensor of the miner shows. The first Apollo miner I got is running cooler 65C and MCU 58C and I have not seen anytime when its MCU temperature is higher than the miner sensor, so for some reason my newest Miner MCU is running nominally warmer than the oldest one. If helps I can send the serial number on the boards so you guys can check on vendor's part batches.
I am hoping to get all my power and LAN setup work completed by end of this week and move the miners to a definitely cooler place, the garage should be between 32F and 40F, guess that will help with keeping the miners temperature pretty low, hope running close to Zero C is not going to be a problem.
I will check for the firmware upgrade!! Thanks everyone!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B59OjOFQHO2JaDFqM0JKQ01JdVVHNVVlcmJpckFDYXEzdUZz/view?usp=sharing
I am running two Apollo miners in our family room, the home thermostat is set to 68F (~20C) on central heating so the temperature is pretty constant all day and night. This afternoon after paying a visit to Fry's electronics store I got a Corsair RM 650x PSU, figure out how to jump start the ATX mother board signal and got the whole setup going. The noise levels are not only tolerable but insanely low compared with the APW3 previous setup. The new PSU fan barely turns on due the threshold is around 230W and even loading the two Apollo miners it has not gone over that threshold at this time yet.
I will keep monitoring the Apollo miner that got overheated and definitely report back if it happens again. Currently this Miner is running at 67C and and MCU at 63C, sometimes the MCU temperature is higher than the sensor of the miner shows. The first Apollo miner I got is running cooler 65C and MCU 58C and I have not seen anytime when its MCU temperature is higher than the miner sensor, so for some reason my newest Miner MCU is running nominally warmer than the oldest one. If helps I can send the serial number on the boards so you guys can check on vendor's part batches.
I am hoping to get all my power and LAN setup work completed by end of this week and move the miners to a definitely cooler place, the garage should be between 32F and 40F, guess that will help with keeping the miners temperature pretty low, hope running close to Zero C is not going to be a problem.
I will check for the firmware upgrade!! Thanks everyone!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B59OjOFQHO2JaDFqM0JKQ01JdVVHNVVlcmJpckFDYXEzdUZz/view?usp=sharing
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