Official FutureBit Apollo LTC Image and Support thread - page 50.

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Quote from: gogo64 on March 02, 2019, 06:19:55 AM

Hello, I changed the fan, which was noisy. I put it there:
https://store.supermicro.com/92mm-fan-0114l4.html
It works well, only mine minerals hold 70.5 c and not 66 as the original fan.
Is it possible to set the fan speed to increase in automatic mode from about 66 c?
(google translator)

try setting fan speed manually to 3000

btw that is a good fan maker. I may buy the fan thanks.

I set the stock fan to 20% fixed speed = 2760 rpm
I run balanced
I get 121mh

69.19 c = miner
52.63 c = mcu

gogo64

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Hello, I changed the fan, which was noisy. I put it there:
https://store.supermicro.com/92mm-fan-0114l4.html
It works well, only mine minerals hold 70.5 c and not 66 as the original fan.
Is it possible to set the fan speed to increase in automatic mode from about 66 c?
(google translator)

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Quote from: TsiTheisen on March 01, 2019, 05:03:58 PM

Anyone succesfully connect to wifi? I keep getting an internal error on both my apollos.

Works for some but not in all scenarios. See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48868136 for more comments.

If you have no other option than wifi then having some cheap wifi router configured to client mode and then wired connections from it to Apollos is likely to result in much more stable connectivity than what the internal wifi can currently provide.

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Anyone succesfully connect to wifi? I keep getting an internal error on both my apollos.

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Quote from: jstefanop on February 27, 2019, 11:06:38 AM

Quote from: devincrypt on February 26, 2019, 06:36:01 PM

Power question:

The original data posted on Futurebit says "Two Six Pin PCIE power connectors for wide-range of power draw (only one is needed in ECO mode)". I've been running in "Balanced" mode with just one PCIE connector used. I just felt the power wires at the Apollo back and they are a little warm, not hot at all. I'd like to leave this running in Balanced mode while I'm away a few days - should I worry? Do both power connectors need to be used for Balanced mode?

My PSU is very adequate (Raidmax Cobra RX-700AC-B 700W 80 PLUS) - runs quiet and cold. Anyone else running in Balanced mode with just 1 power connector?

I'd like to save the 2nd PCIE output for my 2nd Apollo.

As long as the wire is not hot it should be fine, but it comes down to the wire gauge used by that PSU, which I assume will probably be 18 gauge. Balance uses about ~150 watts, which is pushing it for a single 6pin PCIE.

I personally would not run it on one cable unless its at least 16 gauge, and even then it comes down to safety and it will always be safer to run it on two. I obviously cant recommend anything other than having both plugged in but im sure others can chime in Wink

Raidmax is an okay brand

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152055

reviews are

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/03/18/raidmax_cobra_power_500w_supply_review/9#.U8eqgfldXgU

https://www.overclock.net/forum/dbtreview.php?do=view_review&id=6792

personally I would not use this psu with one connector.
I also want to say you are using a 80% efficient psu. I would want to find a 90% psu:

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-P2-0650-RX

the unit above is plat I would trust it with 1 cable

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Quote from: jstefanop on February 27, 2019, 11:00:59 AM

Is the dashboard loading fine? Whats the last state you had the miner in before this happened?

Dashboard loads runs for ~ 60 seconds and then drops to the miner is not running screen.
Waits for a while, comes back and does it again.

-Dave

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Quote from: devincrypt on February 26, 2019, 06:36:01 PM

Power question:

The original data posted on Futurebit says "Two Six Pin PCIE power connectors for wide-range of power draw (only one is needed in ECO mode)". I've been running in "Balanced" mode with just one PCIE connector used. I just felt the power wires at the Apollo back and they are a little warm, not hot at all. I'd like to leave this running in Balanced mode while I'm away a few days - should I worry? Do both power connectors need to be used for Balanced mode?

My PSU is very adequate (Raidmax Cobra RX-700AC-B 700W 80 PLUS) - runs quiet and cold. Anyone else running in Balanced mode with just 1 power connector?

I'd like to save the 2nd PCIE output for my 2nd Apollo.

As long as the wire is not hot it should be fine, but it comes down to the wire gauge used by that PSU, which I assume will probably be 18 gauge. Balance uses about ~150 watts, which is pushing it for a single 6pin PCIE.

I personally would not run it on one cable unless its at least 16 gauge, and even then it comes down to safety and it will always be safer to run it on two. I obviously cant recommend anything other than having both plugged in but im sure others can chime in Wink

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Quote from: DaveF on February 26, 2019, 07:16:37 PM

HELP!
OK, with that out of the way.
One of my Apollos seems to be having issues.
bfg starts and then stops.
I have replaced the SD card and removed all pools, twice.

With just the donation pool looking at the sudo screen -dr miner I see

Code:

bfgminer 5.5.0-41-gb0cd450 - Start: [2019-02-27 00:02:21] - [  0 days 00:00:02]
 [M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options  [H]elp [Q]uit
 Pool 0: us.litecoinpool.or  Diff:1  +Strtm  LU:[00:02:21]  User:jstefanop.a1
 Block: ...5f3733dbdb447146  Diff:8.25M (59.04T)  Started: [00:02:21]  I:?
 ST:3  F:0  NB:1  AS:0  BW:[546/119 B/s]  E:0.00  BS:0

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 APL 0:       |   0.0/  0.0/  0.0 h/s | A:0 R:0+0(none) HW:0/none
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [2019-02-27 00:02:14] Loaded configuration file /opt/bfgminer.conf
 [2019-02-27 00:02:15] Probing for an alive pool
 [2019-02-27 00:02:21] Pool 0 stratum+tcp://us.litecoinpool.org:3333 alive
 [2019-02-27 00:02:21] Pool 0 is hiding block contents from us
 [2019-02-27 00:02:21] Network difficulty changed to 8.25M (59.04T)
 [2019-02-27 00:02:21] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
 [2019-02-27 00:02:21] API running in IP access mode on port 4028

Then something pops up quickly that I can't read and then.

[screen is terminating]
and I'm back at the prompt.

It does the same if I put in my own pools.

Anything I can look at?

-Dave

Is the dashboard loading fine? Whats the last state you had the miner in before this happened?

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Quote from: DaveF on February 26, 2019, 07:16:37 PM

HELP!
OK, with that out of the way.
One of my Apollos seems to be having issues.
bfg starts and then stops.
I have replaced the SD card and removed all pools, twice.

With just the donation pool looking at the sudo screen -dr miner I see

Code:

bfgminer 5.5.0-41-gb0cd450 - Start: [2019-02-27 00:02:21] - [  0 days 00:00:02]
 [M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options  [H]elp [Q]uit
 Pool 0: us.litecoinpool.or  Diff:1  +Strtm  LU:[00:02:21]  User:jstefanop.a1
 Block: ...5f3733dbdb447146  Diff:8.25M (59.04T)  Started: [00:02:21]  I:?
 ST:3  F:0  NB:1  AS:0  BW:[546/119 B/s]  E:0.00  BS:0

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 APL 0:       |   0.0/  0.0/  0.0 h/s | A:0 R:0+0(none) HW:0/none
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [2019-02-27 00:02:14] Loaded configuration file /opt/bfgminer.conf
 [2019-02-27 00:02:15] Probing for an alive pool
 [2019-02-27 00:02:21] Pool 0 stratum+tcp://us.litecoinpool.org:3333 alive
 [2019-02-27 00:02:21] Pool 0 is hiding block contents from us
 [2019-02-27 00:02:21] Network difficulty changed to 8.25M (59.04T)
 [2019-02-27 00:02:21] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
 [2019-02-27 00:02:21] API running in IP access mode on port 4028

Then something pops up quickly that I can't read and then.

[screen is terminating]
and I'm back at the prompt.

It does the same if I put in my own pools.

Anything I can look at?

-Dave

did you flash the SD with Etcher? if not, do try to flash the SD with Etcher https://www.balena.io/etcher/

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HELP!
OK, with that out of the way.
One of my Apollos seems to be having issues.
bfg starts and then stops.
I have replaced the SD card and removed all pools, twice.

With just the donation pool looking at the sudo screen -dr miner I see

Code:

bfgminer 5.5.0-41-gb0cd450 - Start: [2019-02-27 00:02:21] - [  0 days 00:00:02]
 [M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options  [H]elp [Q]uit
 Pool 0: us.litecoinpool.or  Diff:1  +Strtm  LU:[00:02:21]  User:jstefanop.a1
 Block: ...5f3733dbdb447146  Diff:8.25M (59.04T)  Started: [00:02:21]  I:?
 ST:3  F:0  NB:1  AS:0  BW:[546/119 B/s]  E:0.00  BS:0

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 APL 0:       |   0.0/  0.0/  0.0 h/s | A:0 R:0+0(none) HW:0/none
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [2019-02-27 00:02:14] Loaded configuration file /opt/bfgminer.conf
 [2019-02-27 00:02:15] Probing for an alive pool
 [2019-02-27 00:02:21] Pool 0 stratum+tcp://us.litecoinpool.org:3333 alive
 [2019-02-27 00:02:21] Pool 0 is hiding block contents from us
 [2019-02-27 00:02:21] Network difficulty changed to 8.25M (59.04T)
 [2019-02-27 00:02:21] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
 [2019-02-27 00:02:21] API running in IP access mode on port 4028

Then something pops up quickly that I can't read and then.

[screen is terminating]
and I'm back at the prompt.

It does the same if I put in my own pools.

Anything I can look at?

-Dave

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Power question:

The original data posted on Futurebit says "Two Six Pin PCIE power connectors for wide-range of power draw (only one is needed in ECO mode)". I've been running in "Balanced" mode with just one PCIE connector used. I just felt the power wires at the Apollo back and they are a little warm, not hot at all. I'd like to leave this running in Balanced mode while I'm away a few days - should I worry? Do both power connectors need to be used for Balanced mode?

My PSU is very adequate (Raidmax Cobra RX-700AC-B 700W 80 PLUS) - runs quiet and cold. Anyone else running in Balanced mode with just 1 power connector?

I'd like to save the 2nd PCIE output for my 2nd Apollo.

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Quote from: whiteogre on February 26, 2019, 01:27:37 PM

Quote from: TsiTheisen on February 25, 2019, 04:37:41 PM

I was playing around with making this thing even more quiet. My stock fan is a little noisy. Might have just gotten a noisier one out of the bunch. I strapped on a silent noctua fan onto a fan controller and threw it on top of the heat sink. Ran it on eco mode. Had it sitting at 60 Degrees pretty much completely silent. But If i connect the noctua fan connector onto the apollos board, the miner will shut off after 45ish seconds. Is that the apollo just telling me to stick with the stock fan? Lol. Just curious if i could make the switch.

Which Noctua fan model did you use and what was the fan speed setting in Apollo?

The Apollo comes with an around 6k rpm fan producing a maximum airflow of about 93 m³/h (if I found the right specs). For comparison, the Noctua NF-A9 PWM is 2k rpm and about 78.9 m³/h. Most likely the shutdown you got is caused by a failsafe, possibly either the fan rpm not being connected, the fan rpm being too low to detect or the fan rpm being lower than some hardcoded minimum. Set the fan speed manually to 100% before swapping to the Noctua fan and see if that helps. If that keeps the miner running then you can start experimenting with lower fan speed settings up to the point that the failsafe kicks in again or the temperature gets too high.

Yea the hardware controller is hardcoded with failsafes based on the stock fan. If you use anything below a 3-4k RPM fan the controller will shutdown the miner because it thinks something is wrong with the fan.

I won't be supporting any third party fans, I could possibly but in a "disable fan monitoring" option, but I wouldn't include that for at least several more months.

The stock fan is a 6k RPM 120 CFM fan. That noctua tops out at ~ 45 CFM which is probably enough for only ECO mode cooling.

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Quote from: TsiTheisen on February 25, 2019, 04:37:41 PM

I was playing around with making this thing even more quiet. My stock fan is a little noisy. Might have just gotten a noisier one out of the bunch. I strapped on a silent noctua fan onto a fan controller and threw it on top of the heat sink. Ran it on eco mode. Had it sitting at 60 Degrees pretty much completely silent. But If i connect the noctua fan connector onto the apollos board, the miner will shut off after 45ish seconds. Is that the apollo just telling me to stick with the stock fan? Lol. Just curious if i could make the switch.

Which Noctua fan model did you use and what was the fan speed setting in Apollo?

The Apollo comes with an around 6k rpm fan producing a maximum airflow of about 93 m³/h (if I found the right specs). For comparison, the Noctua NF-A9 PWM is 2k rpm and about 78.9 m³/h. Most likely the shutdown you got is caused by a failsafe, possibly either the fan rpm not being connected, the fan rpm being too low to detect or the fan rpm being lower than some hardcoded minimum. Set the fan speed manually to 100% before swapping to the Noctua fan and see if that helps. If that keeps the miner running then you can start experimenting with lower fan speed settings up to the point that the failsafe kicks in again or the temperature gets too high.

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I too am interested in this. I've had a couple of noctua fans. Amazing. I also need to sit the apollo on something to reduce vibrations...

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I was playing around with making this thing even more quiet. My stock fan is a little noisy. Might have just gotten a noisier one out of the bunch. I strapped on a silent noctua fan onto a fan controller and threw it on top of the heat sink. Ran it on eco mode. Had it sitting at 60 Degrees pretty much completely silent. But If i connect the noctua fan connector onto the apollos board, the miner will shut off after 45ish seconds. Is that the apollo just telling me to stick with the stock fan? Lol. Just curious if i could make the switch.

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Quote from: danycoman on February 23, 2019, 02:57:52 AM

Hi were is last version firmware?

Always in the first post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48523684

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Quote from: DaveF on February 22, 2019, 02:23:37 PM

2) EMail alert if something fails. Yeah, I know usually it's the pool that will tell you if you are not hashing, but I have always wanted to have the miner let me know if *it* things there is a drop, or if the fan is not spinning, or if it can't connect to pool "X". Probably a lot of programming for it to do that but, I can hope.

There's at least two possible implementation options for having this kind of functionality. The first one would be to use the already existing systemd as source for alerts and enable its notify by email functionality. That shouldn't require too much new implementation but may not have visibility to all the details you listed.

The other alternative is to have the feature somewhere in the monitoring or dashboard implementation. Those have access to all the details you are looking for but indeed would require more new code to be written.

Eventually, at least how I see it, this sort of feature requires most of the implementation work in the configurability of sending that email. These days, for most, it's no longer enough just to configure some email server name + recipient address. Instead, the authentication methods and protocols need also configuring and covering all option combinations is no longer as trivial as it used to be.

Quote from: DaveF on February 22, 2019, 02:23:37 PM

3) All LED off except for issue. Walk in, look at rack, red LED on. OK, that one has a problem.

This has the potential issue that you can't see just by looking at the rack if there's power or not. That's why a flashing led is usually the best indicator that everything is ok since it shows directly that there's power and the flashing indicates that the software itself isn't stuck.

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Hi were is last version firmware?

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Got my 2nd pair in yesterday. Have them hashing away. Love them.
Some thoughts on future OS updates.

1) 1 to many. Using some push API to other miners on the network, if you make a change to one you have the option of updating them all.

2) EMail alert if something fails. Yeah, I know usually it's the pool that will tell you if you are not hashing, but I have always wanted to have the miner let me know if *it* things there is a drop, or if the fan is not spinning, or if it can't connect to pool "X". Probably a lot of programming for it to do that but, I can hope.

3) All LED off except for issue. Walk in, look at rack, red LED on. OK, that one has a problem.

Thanks,
Dave

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Quote from: whiteogre on February 05, 2019, 12:21:21 PM

Quote from: VictorGT on February 04, 2019, 01:49:13 PM

I call my miners Apollo1 y Apollo2 (not too much original names hum... Tongue

). I put a couple of quality labels on each (on top and front).

But, no way to know what miner I am monitoring when using webgui... only by IP.

I will like a lot a simple text field for assigning each miner a name. If visible at dashboard, you can identify your miners very easy.

Maybe too stupid request, but really easy to implement ha ha...

This falls to the category of "do only if you know you can copypaste and follow the instructions" but here's how you can change the page title of the dashboard of each unit. The title is what's visible in the browser window bar or tab bar, not on the page itself. You need to connect via ssh to the mcu (the login and password has been mentioned in earlier posts) and then run the following two commands. Edit only the first one to match the wanted title but don't touch the second line:

Code:

pagetitle="The new dashboard title comes here within these quotes"
sed -i -e "s#.*#${pagetitle}#g" /opt/apolloapi/build/index.html

Reload the dashboard in the browser and that should be it. The original title is "Apollo miner web dashboard" if you forgot to write it down. Wink

Thanks for putting this up there. Love being able to customize things one step further.

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