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Topic: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading - page 150. (Read 723903 times)

legendary
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I'm thinking about withdrawing my USD. Interest rates, while still quite high in comparison to the expected return for an stock market investment, aren't high enough when considering the risk of losing the money somehow.

I also wonder why the interest rate volatility has been so low, we have been at nearly 0.04% daily for many days so far.
legendary
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Get Paid Crypto To Walk or Drive
I am still trying to figure out how the swaps work from the lending side, but I found something I thought was a little odd.  I have a swap lent for 30 days, and it has been lent fully for the last 3 days.  The last 2 days I received the exact same amount of interest deposited into my account, but today, it was less.  Shouldn't the same amount be earned in interest each day, given that it was lent out all day, and for the same interest rate?

Just to be 100% sure: is it FRR (variable, flash-rate) or fixed-rate swap?

Ente

I think it was fixed, I typed in the box, 30 days, 0.0165% interest rate, 1 btc
newbie
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The bug in the expiry dates is still there. I had a 30 day loan sitting in my unused swaps all night and over the 10 hours the hourly interest kept cutting it the swap went from 30 days to 20 days.

FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU---------

This is a serious bug. If we don't get a response in the next 24 hours i'm going to post in Reddit. It seems BFX pays more attention there anyway.
legendary
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I am still trying to figure out how the swaps work from the lending side, but I found something I thought was a little odd.  I have a swap lent for 30 days, and it has been lent fully for the last 3 days.  The last 2 days I received the exact same amount of interest deposited into my account, but today, it was less.  Shouldn't the same amount be earned in interest each day, given that it was lent out all day, and for the same interest rate?

Just to be 100% sure: is it FRR (variable, flash-rate) or fixed-rate swap?

Ente
full member
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There is definitely a bug in the swap reservation "module". It is all messed up and needs urgent attention.
legendary
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Who is the PR now?
My deposit didn't show up in my bfx acount after 35 confirmations and 8 hours.
Please investigate. My bfx username is same as my btctalk username.
legendary
Activity: 2800
Merit: 1012
Get Paid Crypto To Walk or Drive
I am still trying to figure out how the swaps work from the lending side, but I found something I thought was a little odd.  I have a swap lent for 30 days, and it has been lent fully for the last 3 days.  The last 2 days I received the exact same amount of interest deposited into my account, but today, it was less.  Shouldn't the same amount be earned in interest each day, given that it was lent out all day, and for the same interest rate?
full member
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Merit: 100
Might be a bug:

If i have unused swap sitting at 30 days and then use up a tiny bit (say to pay off interest) the rest of the swap's expiry is reduced by a *full day*. So my previously 30 day swap after being touched is now a 29 day swap. then if it's touched again it gets reduced to a 28 day swap. and so on. This is all happening on the same day, so it's not like i'm rolling over time legitimately. A day is taken off the swap time whenever the swap is cut but not completely used.

Can this be fixed?
Has anybody encountered this as well? This is pretty interesting and could possibly explain the phenomenon of 1 day swaps suddenly appearing in the "swap provided" list of of lenders. A problem BitBits and me have mentioned so far.

So, BFX guys, wake up and investigate this! Also, can you give an update to the features you announced in this big change recently (swap bot etc.)?
newbie
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Might be a bug:

If i have unused swap sitting at 30 days and then use up a tiny bit (say to pay off interest) the rest of the swap's expiry is reduced by a *full day*. So my previously 30 day swap after being touched is now a 29 day swap. then if it's touched again it gets reduced to a 28 day swap. and so on. This is all happening on the same day, so it's not like i'm rolling over time legitimately. A day is taken off the swap time whenever the swap is cut but not completely used.

Can this be fixed?
full member
Activity: 136
Merit: 100
I am about to wire some money into my Bitfinex account.
When the money arrives in my account, will it be available for use right away, or does Bitfinex impose a holding period?

I'm not aware of (don't remember) any holding period. Should be good to go on arrival.
hero member
Activity: 870
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I am about to wire some money into my Bitfinex account.
When the money arrives in my account, will it be available for use right away, or does Bitfinex impose a holding period?
full member
Activity: 144
Merit: 100
Just wanted to bring this up to the attention of Bitfinex team:
Here is the screenshot of the "unused swaps" section (part of it):
http://imgur.com/8Ias0nc
The swaps supposed to be at least two days long, but as seen in the picture above, there is freshly taken swap with the 24 hours (instead of 2 days) expiration time. This snapshot is taken from the "unused swaps" section, right after they have been taken from offers order book (today). This is not an isolated case, I have seen this happening several times and so far I could not deduct any patterns of this occurrence.
Moreover, several times now I've seen swaps showing 2 days expiration date, in spite of the fact that the offer taken (a single one listed) stated that it is a swap with different than 2 days duration.
With that said, I do not know if these "shortened" swaps are going in with the same (shortened) expiration time when converted to "active". It is hard to trace them on the list.

On a separate note I just wanted to share that the possible reason for all those "under penny" swaps people are complaining about being listed and cluttering the section, is because swap request placement is done in 2 decimals after the point if user clicks on available offer (it is actually impossible to know the exact number of any given offer while it is on the order book). SO, if such offer has more digits after the second decimal, it gets spit and the under penny part apparently remains hanging on the order book and is somehow getting on the list (possibly if new swap request is placed immediately). Those traders who do this often (picking offers from order book by clicking on them), will have a hole load of these small (under penny) swaps.

It also looks like you cannot get rid of these tiny swaps because if you select them all (sort the list by the "Amount" column) and cancel, they will all come right back one for one. HOWEVER, what I found is that this "one for one" replacement ONLY happens if you have any swaps already sitting in your "unused swaps" section. I was able to get rid of them all at once and replaced by a single (sum of them) swap, when I had no swaps reserved (nothing in the "unused swaps section). I guess this is how the system is set up and after I cancelled a bunch of swaps without having any reserved, it did not look for the swaps I just cancelled, but simply took one new swap from the order book to match the total needed for my position. So, apparently the difference here from system's perspective is that you are either REPLACING the swaps or you HAVE TO take brand new swap to match your total needed for your margin position.

Probably what can be done/modified technically in this respect is to have the system completely ignore the number and amounts of swaps user is canceling, but always "look" for how much total is needed as the collateral for currently existing position and start looking for this particular amount first in the "unused swaps" section and then, if not enough, get the remainder from swaps order book.
So, no support? I thought there was a new person on support team...
All of the above is valid and swaps with 1 day (instead of the 2 minimum) do go into list as is, when they are becoming active.
full member
Activity: 136
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The FRR wall is below $1.8 million, maybe light at the end of the tunnel for lenders?

Now below $1.5M, slowly eroding... I was dubious, but maybe better days for lenders are approaching.

I guess it depends what happens with the price - if it has a jump upwards that wall might disappear surprisingly quickly, whereas if it goes off another cliff I would expect to see it rebuilt back up to "You're not allowed even a little bit of income" levels.
full member
Activity: 152
Merit: 100
Hi all,

BFXdata.com update: the landing page -displaying a collection of the most important (imho) Bitfinex Stats- now updates data in real time.

Hope you'll like it Wink

regards Bjorn

You're putting the BitFinex team to shame with your constant enhancements and presence in this thread ;-)

Much appreciated, you are doing great work!

Ente

Thanks for the compliment, but give the Bitfinex crew some credit as well... I 'only' have to put together some stats and make sure everything is without mistakes (and I do mess up once every while Wink ). If I mess up it's not the end of the world. Bitfinex on the other hand has to also make 100% certain that everything they add to the platform is hack proof, and will perform flawlessly, even in a big rally or a panic, where 30k users might trade all at the same time. I'd rather see them work behind the scenes their asses off, and maybe not replying here instantly, than the other way around Smiley just my two pennies

Best Regards Bjorn
hero member
Activity: 756
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The FRR wall is below $1.8 million, maybe light at the end of the tunnel for lenders?
legendary
Activity: 2126
Merit: 1001
Hi all,

BFXdata.com update: the landing page -displaying a collection of the most important (imho) Bitfinex Stats- now updates data in real time.

Hope you'll like it Wink

regards Bjorn

You're putting the BitFinex team to shame with your constant enhancements and presence in this thread ;-)

Much appreciated, you are doing great work!

Ente
full member
Activity: 152
Merit: 100
Hi all,

BFXdata.com update: the landing page -displaying a collection of the most important (imho) Bitfinex Stats- now updates data in real time.

Hope you'll like it Wink

regards Bjorn
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
The Golden Rule Rules
Does bitfinex still have that lag between the balance between the #'s at the top right and the balance wehn you click "manage my wallet".  It used to be that when you made a transaction and there was a fee assessed, the 2 balances would differ because the fee hasn't been deducted from one of the balances.
Never seen that, but I got used to just refreshing the page to make sure I am looking at the current state of the data.

I should also clarify that it happened very rarely and only on certain transactions.  But the balance difference (which is usually always very small) would always settle after a day or two.
full member
Activity: 144
Merit: 100
Does bitfinex still have that lag between the balance between the #'s at the top right and the balance wehn you click "manage my wallet".  It used to be that when you made a transaction and there was a fee assessed, the 2 balances would differ because the fee hasn't been deducted from one of the balances.
Never seen that, but I got used to just refreshing the page to make sure I am looking at the current state of the data.
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