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Topic: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading - page 315. (Read 723990 times)

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I accidently created a loan offer @250%, 365 days, which I canceled after a minute. ~5.5k of the offer was executed before cancelation.

But when I go to:
https://www.bitfinex.com/offers
256703    USD    Limit    12272.9    250.5%    about 2 hours ago    -    canceled

shouldn't it say: 'partially filled at 250.5% (~5k), canceled (~7k)'  instead of 'canceled'?

No, it is only partially filled if there is still some funds offered.  If you cancelled it then what you lent out is fully filled and you have funds to lend or a new offer.
Didn't know that, thanks.

Sorry for spamming this thread once again, but I wanted to request the cvs export function for history. Maybe for in the future?

edit: stupid question removed
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I accidently created a loan offer @250%, 365 days, which I canceled after a minute. ~5.5k of the offer was executed before cancelation.

But when I go to:
https://www.bitfinex.com/offers
256703    USD    Limit    12272.9    250.5%    about 2 hours ago    -    canceled

shouldn't it say: 'partially filled at 250.5% (~5k), canceled (~7k)'  instead of 'canceled'?

No, it is only partially filled if there is still some funds offered.  If you cancelled it then what you lent out is fully filled and you have funds to lend or a new offer.
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I accidently created a loan offer @250%, 365 days, which I canceled after a minute. ~5.5k of the offer was executed before cancelation.

But when I go to:
https://www.bitfinex.com/offers
256703    USD    Limit    12272.9    250.5%    about 2 hours ago    -    canceled

shouldn't it say: 'partially filled at 250.5% (~5k), canceled (~7k)'  instead of 'canceled'?
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If I had to guess at it, that's the reason why everyone is
routing their orders to BitStamp, just to be able to use
the good BitStamp charts that are available to trade on.
...which are? Tradingview only displays MtGox afaik.

I am actually also working on charting sites and so far there are no real Open Source ones that I found and the closed source ones don't really care to invest the work implementing yet another API to get a handful of Bitcoiners who want to trade 200 USD...

What trading/charting software would you like to use and is there an API available to stream data to this software that one can use freely? (e.g. Bloomberg, OpenMAMDA...)


You could also use MetaTrader4 or MetaTrader5
if Bitfinex's API is compatible, it has really nice charts:

http://www.metatrader4.com/

http://www.metatrader5.com/

Other Exchanges use it and everybody loves it !
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Metatrader is NOT an open API (they sue people writing servers for it and their business model is more or less forcing people to use their server software and pying for their consultants to connect it to your exchange). See http://www.metaquotes.net/en/metatrader4


Yes I know, don't know the exact cost,
but my line of thinking was that maybe,
just maybe Bitfinex might be willing to
cover that cost, surely it would bring more
traders online with Bitfinex.

Have you seen the chart that BtChina gives
you to trade on ?, what a joke, but TradeView
also has a chart for BtChina, which compenstates
for their joke of a chart they provide, but BtChina's
system of trading one would practically have to have
a calculator at your side just to make your trades,
I can see it now, 2 Billion Chinese all sitting at their
computers with their calculators in hand, guess it works
for them with the exponential growth they have experienced !
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All i know is that if I knew i was going to get charged out of no where $20 for a unused borrowed fund that i was going to expire in the next 24 hrs, i would have closed it ASAP
Dear accord01... doesn't it seem fair to you that once you take a loan, you should pay interest on it regardless of what you are doing with those funds?

yes, that's why i was stoked, so again i try to re confirm if that's the case? and again i was told yes... hence i left the unused borrowed funds as is... and went to sleep.  The funny thing is taht fund expires 2hrs after i get charged that.
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You know that you can edit posts here later without any way for non-moderators to see that it was edited?

Just like this.


Or like that...

Also quoting a post you reply to doesn't really help
True, I fully agree to that!

If accord edited his first post from "fees" to "interest" then please accept my apologies. That's sneaky and he doesn't deserve any refund if that's the case. I don't know if he edited or not, but it's a silly feature for this forum to be able to edit posts way after the fact without a way for regular users to see it was edited.

lol why would i say fees, are you kidding me?  he was the one that showed me the "fees" page and it talked about interest.  I know there are no fees but only interests, lol.  i didn't edit anything.
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All i know is that if I knew i was going to get charged out of no where $20 for a unused borrowed fund that i was going to expire in the next 24 hrs, i would have closed it ASAP
Dear accord01... doesn't it seem fair to you that once you take a loan, you should pay interest on it regardless of what you are doing with those funds?
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All i know is that if I knew i was going to get charged out of no where $20 for a unused borrowed fund that i was going to expire in the next 24 hrs, i would have closed it ASAP
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You know that you can edit posts here later without any way for non-moderators to see that it was edited?

Just like this.


Or like that...

Also quoting a post you reply to doesn't really help
True, I fully agree to that!

If accord edited his first post from "fees" to "interest" then please accept my apologies. That's sneaky and he doesn't deserve any refund if that's the case. I don't know if he edited or not, but it's a silly feature for this forum to be able to edit posts way after the fact without a way for regular users to see it was edited.
legendary
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You know that you can edit posts here later without any way for non-moderators to see that it was edited?

Just like this.


Or like that...

Also quoting a post you reply to doesn't really help
True, I fully agree to that!
sr. member
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also, do you get charge interest for funds under the unused borrowed funds tab?


Accord asks if interest is charged for unused borrowed funds, Sukrim tells him no.

Thanks for the false information and no one correcting it.  I had unused funds and just got charged $21 out of no where when i logged in.  I don't know what it is, but it must be that.  I dont have any open positions.

giancarlo or raphael, may i get a refund for being charged a fee for unused borrowed funds?  It automatically gets added plus its never stated in the fee schedule, AND i'm told in this thread that i am not charged for it and no one corrected that false statement.

thanks.

You did not get charged any fee on that, you got charged INTEREST - this is paid to the person you borrowed from, not Bitfinex.

Edit:
If you borrow something, you have to pay interest no matter if you trade with it or not, as it is you now to decide what happens with that money. Otherwise lenders would just borrow all money in the market to drive up interest rates.

How would you feel if someone borrows from you, but then does not pay anything because he actually didn't need the money after all?!

Then when accord gets charged interest on unused borrow funds and complains about the incorrect info given to him by Sukrim, Sukrim says yes you do get charged interest. Accord's first question was about interest, not about fees. Rather than type in CAPS to make it look like it wasn't faulty information, Sukrim could have at least apologized.

Of course though it makes sense that people would be charged interest on borrowed funds whether they use them or not, since the funds are borrowed after all. It would make sense for borrowers to close out loans that they're not using or don't have plans to use in the near future. I think it would make sense to refund accord given the circumstances and make the information on the website be more clear about unused borrowed funds, just my two cents.
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No, it still didn't show up.  I had 15.8 usd in my trading balance, i tried transfering that entire amt to exchange acct, and it only transfered 1.8 over, and the rest just disappeared.  but the 14 still shows up in the trading balance but in manage wallet it is 0 and i can't transfer anything to exchange acct.


also, as you can see, i should have 3.91  btc's... not 3.90093237 btc's
Do you have any open orders?

No, no open orders, no positions, no loans, nothing...

Accord01

just relax.
believe me, we are not here to steal any of your money, especially 14 usd.
Wink
Raphael is now on a plane for the next 2 hours and we will be able to check your position within today.
No need to make so much noise for nothing.
If it's our mistake ( I doubt it ) money will be given back to you.
Otherwise we will explain what happened.

Talk to you later, meanwhile have a good day


Giancarlo
Bitfinex Team




I know you guys aren't here to steal 14 dollars.  it's not about the 14 dollars.  i need to make a few trades right now but i am scared to do it because i'm afraid something will go wrong and records lost.

also, i have no open orders, no pending orders, nothing...
legendary
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What is this?  Some kind of a glitch?  It just stole like $14 from me.
No, the 2 balances displayed are once for your trading wallet (~14) and once for the exchange (~1.8) wallet.
Also, if you actually care to read what is written on that screenshot(!) that you posted:
If I had to guess at it, that's the reason why everyone is
routing their orders to BitStamp, just to be able to use
the good BitStamp charts that are available to trade on.
...which are? Tradingview only displays MtGox afaik.

I am actually also working on charting sites and so far there are no real Open Source ones that I found and the closed source ones don't really care to invest the work implementing yet another API to get a handful of Bitcoiners who want to trade 200 USD...

What trading/charting software would you like to use and is there an API available to stream data to this software that one can use freely? (e.g. Bloomberg, OpenMAMDA...)


You could also use MetaTrader4 or MetaTrader5
if Bitfinex's API is compatible, it has really nice charts:

http://www.metatrader4.com/

http://www.metatrader5.com/

Other Exchanges use it and everybody loves it !
Metatrader is NOT an open API (they sue people writing servers for it and their business model is more or less forcing people to use their server software and pying for their consultants to connect it to your exchange). See http://www.metaquotes.net/en/metatrader4
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No, it still didn't show up.  I had 15.8 usd in my trading balance, i tried transfering that entire amt to exchange acct, and it only transfered 1.8 over, and the rest just disappeared.  but the 14 still shows up in the trading balance but in manage wallet it is 0 and i can't transfer anything to exchange acct.


also, as you can see, i should have 3.91  btc's... not 3.90093237 btc's
Do you have any open orders?

No, no open orders, no positions, no loans, nothing...

Accord01

just relax.
believe me, we are not here to steal any of your money, especially 14 usd.
Wink
Raphael is now on a plane for the next 2 hours and we will be able to check your position within today.
No need to make so much noise for nothing.
If it's our mistake ( I doubt it ) money will be given back to you.
Otherwise we will explain what happened.

Talk to you later, meanwhile have a good day


Giancarlo
Bitfinex Team


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If I had to guess at it, that's the reason why everyone is
routing their orders to BitStamp, just to be able to use
the good BitStamp charts that are available to trade on.
...which are? Tradingview only displays MtGox afaik.

I am actually also working on charting sites and so far there are no real Open Source ones that I found and the closed source ones don't really care to invest the work implementing yet another API to get a handful of Bitcoiners who want to trade 200 USD...

What trading/charting software would you like to use and is there an API available to stream data to this software that one can use freely? (e.g. Bloomberg, OpenMAMDA...)


You could also use MetaTrader4 or MetaTrader5
if Bitfinex's API is compatible, it has really nice charts:

http://www.metatrader4.com/

http://www.metatrader5.com/

Other Exchanges use it and everybody loves it !
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Activity: 238
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No, it still didn't show up.  I had 15.8 usd in my trading balance, i tried transfering that entire amt to exchange acct, and it only transfered 1.8 over, and the rest just disappeared.  but the 14 still shows up in the trading balance but in manage wallet it is 0 and i can't transfer anything to exchange acct.


also, as you can see, i should have 3.91  btc's... not 3.90093237 btc's
Do you have any open orders?

No, no open orders, no positions, no loans, nothing...
legendary
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No, it still didn't show up.  I had 15.8 usd in my trading balance, i tried transfering that entire amt to exchange acct, and it only transfered 1.8 over, and the rest just disappeared.  but the 14 still shows up in the trading balance but in manage wallet it is 0 and i can't transfer anything to exchange acct.


also, as you can see, i should have 3.91  btc's... not 3.90093237 btc's
Do you have any open orders?
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Activity: 238
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also, as you can see, i should have 3.91  btc's... not 3.90093237 btc's

That is caused by rounding. The top right bar displays just 2 decimal places. The right amount is the one u see in your wallet (confused me too a bit at the beginning)

uh no.  3.90093237 would round down to 3.90
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also, as you can see, i should have 3.91  btc's... not 3.90093237 btc's

That is caused by rounding. The top right bar displays just 2 decimal places. The right amount is the one u see in your wallet (confused me too a bit at the beginning)
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
No, it still didn't show up.  I had 15.8 usd in my trading balance, i tried transfering that entire amt to exchange acct, and it only transfered 1.8 over, and the rest just disappeared.  but the 14 still shows up in the trading balance but in manage wallet it is 0 and i can't transfer anything to exchange acct.


also, as you can see, i should have 3.91  btc's... not 3.90093237 btc's
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