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Topic: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading - page 55. (Read 723861 times)

legendary
Activity: 1868
Merit: 1023
On Bitfinx, I have a BTCUSD short position. I also have a greater number of BTC in the wallet than the short position. So I had zero funding costs. The position is in profit.

Basically I was using the short position to sell some of my bitcoins during this price rise, without actually selling them (for tax purposes). But now I've changed my mind and I'd like to sell them.

So say, I have 20 bitcoins and a short for 10 bitcoins. I want to close my short and have 10 bitcoins. Can I do this with the "Claim" position function?

I know I could do this by simultaneously selling 10 bitcoins and using the close function on the short - but that would involve market slippage and extra fees.

I figure I should be able to do this because Bitfinex already sold the bitcoins for the short when I entered the trade. And I'm not paying again margin funding - so they've already sold *my* bitcoins.  Am I right?
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1001
Anyone else not getting withdrawal confirmation emails?
hero member
Activity: 870
Merit: 585
Lose?
Muahahahah!
I'ma light this here see-gar with a benjamin

We now return you to your regular programming
legendary
Activity: 3514
Merit: 1280
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Just like ol' Georgie Washington with his cherry tree, I cannot tell a lie.  I really did buy $800k of coin one year. 
And I do mean bought, not traded.
You may kiss my ring now.

And how many bitcoins did you actually buy?
Who cares?  Easy come, easy go...

Okay, how many bitcoins did you actually lose? And where...
hero member
Activity: 870
Merit: 585
Just like ol' Georgie Washington with his cherry tree, I cannot tell a lie.  I really did buy $800k of coin one year. 
And I do mean bought, not traded.
You may kiss my ring now.

And how many bitcoins did you actually buy?
Who cares?  Easy come, easy go...
legendary
Activity: 3514
Merit: 1280
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Just like ol' Georgie Washington with his cherry tree, I cannot tell a lie.  I really did buy $800k of coin one year. 
And I do mean bought, not traded.
You may kiss my ring now.

And how many bitcoins did you actually buy?
hero member
Activity: 870
Merit: 585
Just like ol' Georgie Washington with his cherry tree, I cannot tell a lie.  I really did buy $800k of coin one year. 
And I do mean bought, not traded.
You may kiss my ring now.
legendary
Activity: 3514
Merit: 1280
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You're talking through your hat, boyo.

I asked a question (actually two). Just in case that simple fact failed to get through

Try buying $800,000 worth of XBT over the course of a year, as a private person, and let us know how that works for you. Bitfinex doesn't care how much money you send them, but your bank cares because it is regulated up the wazoo (at least in the U.S.)

I don't know about you, but in no circumstances I would buy $800,000 worth of bitcoins (even if I had $800,000, to begin with). Should I conclude that you habitually (or at least annually) buy and sell such amounts of bitcoins (dollars)?
Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Shocked

Buying $800,000 worth of bitcoins in total over the course of a year is actually not a big deal for a day trader. It amounts to buying (and selling) slightly above $2,000 daily, which is nothing out of the ordinary if you are trading actively, lol. I could just as well say that I would be buying more than $1,000,000 worth of bitcoins over a year, whereas in fact I had been actively trading the same ~$3,000 for a few weeks using a bot (as an individual)...

Which made around a few hundred trades a day (though with a relatively small percent of the total capital)
hero member
Activity: 870
Merit: 585
You're talking through your hat, boyo.

I asked a question (actually two). Just in case that simple fact failed to get through

Try buying $800,000 worth of XBT over the course of a year, as a private person, and let us know how that works for you. Bitfinex doesn't care how much money you send them, but your bank cares because it is regulated up the wazoo (at least in the U.S.)

I don't know about you, but in no circumstances I would buy $800,000 worth of bitcoins (even if I had $800,000, to begin with). Should I conclude that you habitually (or at least annually) buy and sell such amounts of bitcoins (dollars)?
Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Shocked
legendary
Activity: 2126
Merit: 1001
So, is there any difference/advantage on bitfinex when running a corporate account? Besides implications on my, local, side (bank account, legal status etc).
Where can I read up on that? I didn't find anything on a short google.

Ente
member
Activity: 68
Merit: 12
Just a general question, I read some where some time that corporate users account for the majority of the volume on bitfinex, is this true?
Anybody can register an LLC and a bank account under the corporate name. And you should, if you're gonna send big wires.
Opening a corporate account at finex isn't hard.  I did it.
A "corporation" can be a one-man operation, it doesn't have to be a big company.
I understand that both account types can be made by the same type of user for the same purpose but I remember reading somewhere that the majority of the volume is done by corporate accounts, and I just wanted to check my sources Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3514
Merit: 1280
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You're talking through your hat, boyo.

I asked a question (actually two). Just in case that simple fact failed to get through

Try buying $800,000 worth of XBT over the course of a year, as a private person, and let us know how that works for you. Bitfinex doesn't care how much money you send them, but your bank cares because it is regulated up the wazoo (at least in the U.S.)

I don't know about you, but in no circumstances I would buy $800,000 worth of bitcoins (even if I had $800,000, to begin with). Should I conclude that you habitually (or at least annually) buy and sell such amounts of bitcoins (dollars)?
hero member
Activity: 870
Merit: 585
Just a general question, I read some where some time that corporate users account for the majority of the volume on bitfinex, is this true?
Anybody can register an LLC and a bank account under the corporate name. And you should, if you're gonna send big wires.
Opening a corporate account at finex isn't hard.  I did it.
A "corporation" can be a one-man operation, it doesn't have to be a big company.

As I understand it, if registered as a business, you will have to fill out a lot of papers, even if you don't (officially) book any profits. So what's the catch and is it really worth it?

Does Bitfinex limit the amount of money transferable for an individual (not business)?
You're talking through your hat, boyo.
There's no reason for you to do any research on the issue because you aren't a big player.
Try buying $800,000 worth of XBT over the course of a year, as a private person, and let us know how that works for you.
Bitfinex doesn't care how much money you send them, but your bank cares because it is regulated up the wazoo (at least in the U.S.).
legendary
Activity: 3514
Merit: 1280
English ⬄ Russian Translation Services
Just a general question, I read some where some time that corporate users account for the majority of the volume on bitfinex, is this true?
Anybody can register an LLC and a bank account under the corporate name. And you should, if you're gonna send big wires.
Opening a corporate account at finex isn't hard.  I did it.
A "corporation" can be a one-man operation, it doesn't have to be a big company.

As I understand it, if registered as a business, you will have to fill out a lot of papers, even if you don't (officially) book any profits. So what's the catch and is it really worth it?

Does Bitfinex limit the amount of money transferable for an individual (not business)?
hero member
Activity: 870
Merit: 585
Just a general question, I read some where some time that corporate users account for the majority of the volume on bitfinex, is this true?
Anybody can register an LLC and a bank account under the corporate name. And you should, if you're gonna send big wires.
Opening a corporate account at finex isn't hard.  I did it.
A "corporation" can be a one-man operation, it doesn't have to be a big company.
member
Activity: 68
Merit: 12
Just a general question, I read some where some time that corporate users account for the majority of the volume on bitfinex, is this true?
hero member
Activity: 827
Merit: 502
Why so long BTC withdrawal processing? Already waiting more than 3 hours... Please support help process withdrawal quickly: Withdrawal 1085090

Already processed.

Thanks
full member
Activity: 141
Merit: 101
Is it just me or is auto renew (in the margin funding tab) not working since today?

edit: seems to be working again.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1004
You're not reading my replies. First, you based all your points on the basis that you have to have an MSB, I showed you one way that's not true. Now you're assuming that the only two ways are obtaining MSBs or getting a bank charter. The thing you're missing is that there are multiple (as in more than two) ways of being compliant with fincen, as I said in my first and second comment (apparently you glossed over both) not just MSB or a banking charter. Your entire argument is based on flawed assumptions.

I have read your replies but you are elusive.

You told me that you can have a bank charter without being MSB and I told you this only works in few states and not in all 50. Yes, it works if you are a bank charter in all the states. Are you? Smiley

I asked you how can you can be registered in BVI without having a license in BVI(as the local law requires) and so on. Smiley

You are welcome to explain in few words how you can work in USA, BVI or EU without being MSB or financial licensed. I am sure your clients and your potential clients want to know "who you are".

Compliant with Fincen it doesn't mean just being registered with them. Any company worldwide can register with Fincen but that doesn't mean that you are a MSB. That's why I am curious(I am sure that many others) about that.

Coinbase, Circle and others who already have licenses in almost all the USA(Circle in EU too) may be curious too. Are they and their lawyers so dumb to pay A LOT of money for being compliant in each state from USA? Smiley

Maybe they are and that's why please (in a friendly manner) explain.

Thank you.
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
You're not reading my replies. First, you based all your points on the basis that you have to have an MSB, I showed you one way that's not true. Now you're assuming that the only two ways are obtaining MSBs or getting a bank charter. The thing you're missing is that there are multiple (as in more than two) ways of being compliant with fincen, as I said in my first and second comment (apparently you glossed over both) not just MSB or a banking charter. Your entire argument is based on flawed assumptions.
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