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Topic: [OFFLINE]P2Pmining.com-Hybrid P2Pool-NO FEE!!!-BTC/NMC/IXC/I0C/DEV/LTC - page 21. (Read 56628 times)

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hm, so my main pool and my backup pool had a problem in the same night, time to get a third pool Smiley
legendary
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Looks like it's down again.  Cry
Crap how do i find an alternate. Oh yeah, P2Pool Server List in my sig. Cheesy

I've learned from experience to always have my miners set to auto switch to backup.

In this case, p2pmining is my backup, in case my local pool goes haywire (which it does).

M
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Crypt'n Since 2011
Fix didn't work  Cry

Rebuilding block chain from scratch  Cry


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Looks like it's down again.  Cry
Crap how do i find an alternate. Oh yeah, P2Pool Server List in my sig. Cheesy
sr. member
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Crypt'n Since 2011
Sorry about the SNAFU earlier  Embarrassed

Other news: I will soon be offering PPS for P2Pool  Grin
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Crypt'n Since 2011
Back online. Blocks found during the outage are still counted.
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Crap, it looks like we missed 2 blocks while we had a corrupt blockchain.

Supposedly the payout should be there anyway. This is PPLNS...

True, hadn't considered that. 
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Our highest capital is the Confidence we build.
Crap, it looks like we missed 2 blocks while we had a corrupt blockchain.

Supposedly the payout should be there anyway. This is PPLNS...
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Crap, it looks like we missed 2 blocks while we had a corrupt blockchain.
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There goes the efficiency.  Cry
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Crypt'n Since 2011
Bitcoin blockchain corrupt. Bitcoind is down. I am copying over a good one right now.  Will be back online in 5 minutes.

EDIT: 29% complete
EDIT: 50% complete
EDIT: 75% complete
legendary
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I can't wait for the difficulty to drop.  Should go down about 8%.  It's been a rough week.

I think it's horrible luck.. decreasing difficulty shouldn't help THAT much unless there's something wrong with p2pool.

M
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I can't wait for the difficulty to drop.  Should go down about 8%.  It's been a rough week.
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Crypt'n Since 2011
Litecoin Wallet was low because of high transaction fees.  I think I can fix that.

I will fund the litecoin wallet as soon as my Bitcoin transaction to Vircurex is confirmed and I can trade for some Litecoins.  Should be taken care of in an hour or two.

Sorry for the trouble.

P.S. You might have noticed both pool servers dropping out.  That was me restarting them.
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http://p2pmining.com/?method=lminer&data=LSPdjVr7tUMkPPAiZc8KEk8vEgxsqPejyt

I thought the current LTC payout was .5LTC? I have 29LTC worth of confirmed right now.
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Crypt'n Since 2011
Don't forget my pool is PPLNS.  Your full payout rate won't be achieved until 24hrs after you start mining. P2Pool is also PPLNS. So P2Pmining.com rate is it's average over the last 24 hours. This makes this pool hop proof. 

The whole fiasco with the P2Pool bug is going to cause this past weeks stats to look horrible.  Hopefully forrestv has it figured out. I understand people are struggling with P2Pool and are frustrated.  Sucks being early adopters.
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On the long term it doesn't matter too much because it will average. So, in the long term, you're better on p2pool.
In the past 90 days it averages 10% below average, but if that's OK...well, OK.

Maybe JayCoin can include a longer PPS average?
What we needs is better metrics, gozinta and gozouta is a good beginning.

I have only used p2pool:
My current daily average = ⊅0.66846 per Gigahash
The current expected ⊅BTC for the difficulty 1733208 is ⊅0.58016 per Gigahsh
My daily average is 15.24% better than the current expected payout.

The total network is producing ⊅7450 per 24hrs for 11.91 TH/s. How many ⊅ per GH/s is that?
http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/
Edit: It's ⊅0.62552 per GH/s. Wink
That means the total network is paying out 8.4% better than expected. I didn't expect the network to be having so much good luck. Hmm.
legendary
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Hi Jay.  Please don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing your pool.  You did a great job.  Unless I'm missing something, however, it just isn't for me.

I understand local cgminer efficiency doesn't mean anything.  It's the shares/min that I think is the clincher.

I don't think pool efficiency is as critical as you make it out to be either.  I'm at 111.1% efficiency right now, you're at 123.1%. 

I don't pretend to understand the math behind how all this works.  But I can do simple math, and as they say, show me the money.

As of right now, if p2pool finds a block, I'll get 0.38489903 from my local pool, plus a tiny amount from your pool.  Your pool's reward would be 1.77866879.

For me to get the equivalent btc from your pool, I'd have to be 21.65% of the hash rate of your pool.  I know your pool has varied a lot today, so this isn't as straight forward as I'm making it out to be, but I think it proves the point.

Right now I'm at 2.1g/h local.  You're at 12.1g/h.  If I put my 2.1g/h in your pool (which I can't, cgminer always directs 500-1000m/h to me), you'd be at 14.2g/h, and I'd be 14.79% of your pool.  Assuming you'd still get 1.78 btc (it'd be higher, I know), I'd get .263 btc.  Plus a few almost worthless fractions of other almost worthless currencies.

If I did my math right (and I may be way off somewhere), I'm doing 30% better by mining locally.  The merged mining isn't going to come close to compensating for that.

In other words, all things being equal, if I could feed your server as fast as mine, yours would be better because of the merged mining.  But I can't. 

In summary, unless completely I'm missing something fundamental about this process, the only reason someone should use a pool like yours is if they are right beside it, OR they can't/don't want to setup their own local pool, OR one of the merged mining currencies becomes valuable (and they can't merged mine it locally).

Did I completely miss the ball here?

P2Pmining has the same luck as p2pool.  Cgminer is notorious for reporting pool is not serving work fast enough even on the fastest of pool server.

P2Pmining runs on a dedicated server in a datacenter in Florida. It is a Xeon quad core processor with 100mbit link.  I don't know why anyone should be having connection issues.

P2Pmining total hashrate does not effect variance or payout for miners using it.  Variance is based upon total hashrate of P2Pool.

P2Pmining is a free P2Pool server

You will always connect faster to a server right next to you than one that is half way across the country.

Efficiency in CGMINER has nothing to do with actual efficiency of the pool.  It has to do with the getwork requests vs. submitted shares.

Go to http://p2pmining.com:9332/static/ and look at efficiency there. That is how well p2pmining is doing vs. the rest of p2pool servers. Currently P2Pmining is at 119.5%.  Compare this with your local p2pool server and use the one with the higher efficiency.  Server connection to P2Pool nodes is as important as server connection to miners.

Every time I started my miner on p2pmining.com my DOA rate would go up to +10% and then come back down to around 4% indicating that hopping on and off P2Pmining.com would cause higher DOA rates.

The estimated PPS stat is a very rough estimate.  It swings above and below the mathmatical pps value (Currently 0.00002884).  It just shows how variable luck is.  

I hope this helps understand why mining on p2pmining.com is the way it is.

Thanks for playing.



legendary
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weirdest thing - been using this sucessfulyl for a few weeks now without issue. today i hooked up a new vid card, and when trying ot connect a guiminer using poclbm to this, it fails. error message "at least one server is required." yet my other miner, which is running on my nvidia card through ufasoft's miner, works fine with p2pmining.com. for a lark i tried phoenix - that worked too, however through poclbm in guiminer i get a good 20 mhash more.

any ideas what's going on?
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Crypt'n Since 2011
P2Pmining has the same luck as p2pool.  Cgminer is notorious for reporting pool is not serving work fast enough even on the fastest of pool server.

P2Pmining runs on a dedicated server in a datacenter in Florida. It is a Xeon quad core processor with 100mbit link.  I don't know why anyone should be having connection issues.

P2Pmining total hashrate does not effect variance or payout for miners using it.  Variance is based upon total hashrate of P2Pool.

P2Pmining is a free P2Pool server

You will always connect faster to a server right next to you than one that is half way across the country.

Efficiency in CGMINER has nothing to do with actual efficiency of the pool.  It has to do with the getwork requests vs. submitted shares.

Go to http://p2pmining.com:9332/static/ and look at efficiency there. That is how well p2pmining is doing vs. the rest of p2pool servers. Currently P2Pmining is at 119.5%.  Compare this with your local p2pool server and use the one with the higher efficiency.  Server connection to P2Pool nodes is as important as server connection to miners.

Every time I started my miner on p2pmining.com my DOA rate would go up to +10% and then come back down to around 4% indicating that hopping on and off P2Pmining.com would cause higher DOA rates.

The estimated PPS stat is a very rough estimate.  It swings above and below the mathmatical pps value (Currently 0.00002884).  It just shows how variable luck is.  

I hope this helps understand why mining on p2pmining.com is the way it is.

Thanks for playing.


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