Topic: OGNasty and Betcoin.ag - page 2. (Read 5455 times)

I wasn't online for a few days and came back on August 7th.

OgNasty sent me a pm on August 5th that only said "Remove It..." (it was the only pm from him)

Before I realized he had left me neg feedback, I responded

Then I realized:

G-P left OgNasty this neg feedback on August 3rd:
Promotes the publicly proven betcoin.ag scam for his own financial benefit = criminal offense.
Betcoin.ag publicly make false and misleading statements in their "Terms of Service" section, has no juridical valid "legally binding agreement" and hide the name of the operator!
In case of embezzlement/fraud, you likely have no legal recourse.  <----The only neg feedback of any kind OgN has received.

OgN left me this neg feedback on Aug 5th:
Provides support for user "game-protect" to try and extort forum members.

OgN also left G-P this neg feedback on the same day:
Useless alt of an addicted gambler. Ignore him and his blackmail front masquerading as a service.

I assumed OgN thought G-P was actually Me and his "Remove It..." pm was referring to the neg feedback he received from G-P and responded:


Technically I was the first to "bring it up" but it was just an elephant in the room up till then.


It's also worth mentioning that the same day G-P left OgN his neg feedback, on another forum (twoplustwo) a longtime poster that I had literally never had any interaction with or recognized posted the following in the Betcoin thread: (bobbo is a mod)


He hasn't posted in the thread since and has ignored a couple pms from me asking why he said what he did about me.  
(If anyone knows who he is here, let me know, I really just want to know the truth)


It's also worth mentioning my relationship with G-P.  Across 3 different forums we've exchanged maybe 4 pms ever.  I agree with a lot of what he says and consider him a valuable resource in fighting unethical casinos.  However, I am very wary about the services he offers on his website so at first I left him neutral trust warning people to use caution when considering his services. Over the past few weeks I've revised my feedback a few times.  Just keep changing my mind.
I added positive feedback thanking him for his efforts and the info he has made public about unethical casinos.
Then I felt bad about the neutral rep and removed it after seeing all the shit he was getting and also because it was partially based on someone else's opinion from another forum rather than facts.
Then I changed my mind again and was worried my trust would be interpreted as an endorsement for his website, which I am honestly unsure of, so I removed the positive trust and currently have only the following neutral trust:

Shares valuable info to help make it more difficult for online sites to get away with scummy behavior.
That being said, this is not a vouche for their site or services.


I want to be clear though, my feedback for G-P has literally nothing to do with OgNastys threats, pms or the feedback he left me.
I have no issue with why or how G-P went about dealing with OgN.  In fact It's very possible I will soon be leaving anyone who promotes Betcoin negative feedback.

I think it's pathetic and alarming the number of people who have no problem accepting money from Betcoin to advertise for them and then not only refuse to accept any responsibility whatsoever for their actions, they act as if they are the victims.  I think many actually believe it!:

 wtf?^^^

I don't know a lot about the betcoin.ag scenario but if a member is still advertising a know scam site then they should remove that advertising asap.

I was once in a campaign that turned out to be a scam, crypto vpn i think it was and as soon as someone told me it was a scam and i confirmed it i took the signature down.
I can't be blammed if someone got scammed from the company i was advertising unless i continued to do so long after being made aware of the situation.

They are time stamped, so no the PMs were not at the same time.

I am not sure of Twitchy's mindset when he was sending the PMs, however I think the rating that OgNasty left twitchy semi-implies that they are the same person. Twitchy's conversation with OgNasty seems to confirm this theory.

I have no idea if they are the same person or not, however I have not seen any evidence that they are the same person, credible or not. I think the service that game-protect is offering will not well, protect his customers, and I do not trust him.

I am curious to hear from OgNasty if the PMs are accurate and if anything is missing from the PMs. I think I would still trust OgNasty with decent amounts of money if the PMs are accurate and not missing any pernanent information, however I would also be very disappointed.

Edit:

OgNasty was at least willing to implement this kind of clause/policy. OgNasty offered to remove the signature if twitchy paid 1 BTC, which I assume is the amount that he was receiving for the month.