Well it's been just a little over a year since I created this thread. I haven't been active for the past several months, and just spent some time skimming over the drama OGNasty has been involved in recently. I am 0 % surprised by any of it.
I hate to see anyone just "get away with" scummy behavior because it was forgotten. So, I'm making this post to bring attention to it. If anyone is interested, please:
- Read this threads OP.
- Go through OGNasty's reputation and check out any references from Neg trust.
- Ask questions if anything isn't clear. ( This stuff is complicated )
Topic: OGNasty and Betcoin.ag (Read 5530 times)
1) He means...
Lutpin/TwitchySeal/game-protect is literally just attacking any account who advertises signatures from campaigns he isn't running... Just take a look at some of their feedbacks to see just how obvious and ridiculous his scam has gotten: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=154329
"He even started an account game-protect to try and sell a service where he extorts online gambling houses into paying him or else they get attacked." - Again, this is wrong.I've never had any trouble from Lutpin, Twitchy or game-protect. I advertise Just-Dice in my signature, and run the campaign myself.
I would be surprised if Twitchy was the same person as game-protect. The English on the game-protect site is pretty poor. It reads like someone who either doesn't have English as their first language:
"a player act fraudulent"
"our researches revealed"
"After you subscribed to Game Protect, please submit ..."
"Only issues arose after your payment are eligible"
"Casino account protect service"
I've read a bunch of Twitchy's posts (because he and I appear to be similarly frustrated with betcoin.ag's shady practices, so I often see him posting in the various betcoin.ag threads) and never noticed grammar errors like these.
For what it's worth:
Betcoin.ag DID NOT HAVE TO PAY HIM SHIT
Correct. They did have to pay him a ton of Bitcoins...Betcoin.ag DID NOT HAVE TO PAY HIM SHIT
I said they DID NOT. man dude you can't read or understand english for shit
Betcoin.ag ONLY paid him because they thought about their reputation (which was wise decision more $ to be made in the long run)
Why would they lose their non-existing reputation, if they would not pay a jackpot no one won? Does not make much sense LOL @ "more $ to be made in the long". In the long run, Betcoin will go out of business. Their game is over...
I don't know haven't looked. Cannot accept your words on that. However, I still see their name in signatures. So, I have to assume they are still in business.
Jason ACCEPTED THE SETTLEMENT because HE HAS NO RECOURSE HE WAS LUCKY TO GET WHATEVER THEY GAVE HIM
There is no settlement! You can not have settlements with domain names. The word settlement is used to simplify things. Otherwise, I have to type out more words like: He was offered $ and he accepted it. To which, he is nothing but noise now. If they were a scam they wouldn't of paid him shit. But, there is more $ to be made to why not pay him a little.
All things between the 2 are FINISHED
In your fantasy dream world maybe... I'm sure you feel important running around this forum wanting a response. I'm happy as always to bitch slap you
OgNasty gave me the following negative trust feedback:
I did not understand until today what he means, but after his statements here, I think I know now:
TwitchySeal is an addicted gambler and my game-protect account is an useless alt of TwitchySeal -> LOOOL
Still no idea what "blackmail front masquerading" means, but I think the first sentence is solved...
What do you think Twitchy?
Quote
Useless alt of an addicted gambler. Ignore him and his blackmail front masquerading as a service.
I did not understand until today what he means, but after his statements here, I think I know now:
TwitchySeal is an addicted gambler and my game-protect account is an useless alt of TwitchySeal -> LOOOL
Still no idea what "blackmail front masquerading" means, but I think the first sentence is solved...
What do you think Twitchy?
I think he means that game-protect.com is pretending to be a useful service, but actually is just a way of making money for you. I'm not familiar with your site or the services it offers, and after a quick glance at it I'm still quite unclear. I don't see how you are blackmailing anyone though, so that doesn't make much sense to me.
Interesting to see war on forum, anyways i am out of it.
i take sides on in country war..and that on Russia.
i take sides on in country war..and that on Russia.
-snip a ton of quotes-
Having a vendetta against Betcoin.ag and dragging in other members to remove their advertising and twisting shit up makes me give you the red you deserve.
LOL, so you had to quote a ton to just respond with one sentence? Is this real?Having a vendetta against Betcoin.ag and dragging in other members to remove their advertising and twisting shit up makes me give you the red you deserve.
Having a vendetta against Betcoin.ag and dragging in other members to remove their advertising and twisting shit up makes me give you the red you deserve.
Now why do people think that quoting a long post to in turn write a tiny one is a good idea? Just reply naturally, seriously.
First off: I'm not sure about what was twisted. Secondly, have you seen this post about all of Betcoin's problems?
Please read it, and avoid using ad hominem to say that the evidence is invalid - because it's not. If that doesn't change your opinion then not much more would.
Better I answer here.....instead of making a 3rd edit....of adding feedback to the Scammer gameprotect which no doubt is either Twitchy himself (which I believe is that jason jackpot guy)
which no doubt is either Twitchy himself (which I believe is that jason jackpot guy)(from Og thread)
Please stop. Making these ridiculous connections with accounts only makes you look more ignorant. Also, if you know about the problem with the Betsoft jackpot, then why would you still trust Betcoin? It doesn't make much sense - a player wins a jackpot, the casino refuses to pay out and ignores him for several days, then offers him a settlement to shut up and promote Betcoin (in a few posts anyway). How is that trustworthy exactly?
I don't mind explaining, since you want some attention
in your thread attacking Betcoin.ag and OgNasty Whether it be long or short, I will include the quote that I am responding to. You can post/quote/do as you wish. I will do as I wish.
LOL NOPE the connection between the accounts/persons is obvious to me.
The vendetta against Betcoin.ag is what makes you just someone talking noise.
I appreciated reading what happened with that jason guy. Thanks for the heads up. I can make my own decision of what I want to do. Don't think everyone is gonna get on your hate band wagon against Betcoin.ag.
For what it's worth:
Betcoin.ag DID NOT HAVE TO PAY HIM SHIT
Betcoin.ag ONLY paid him because they thought about their reputation (which was wise decision more $ to be made in the long run)
Jason ACCEPTED THE SETTLEMENT because HE HAS NO RECOURSE HE WAS LUCKY TO GET WHATEVER THEY GAVE HIM
All things between the 2 are FINISHED
now piss off I've given you enough of my time........silly kids
OgNasty gave me the following negative trust feedback:
I did not understand until today what he means, but after his statements here, I think I know now:
TwitchySeal is an addicted gambler and my game-protect account is an useless alt of TwitchySeal LOOOL
Still no idea what "blackmail front masquerading" means, but I think the first sentence is solved.
What do you think Twitchy?
Quote
Useless alt of an addicted gambler. Ignore him and his blackmail front masquerading as a service.
I did not understand until today what he means, but after his statements here, I think I know now:
TwitchySeal is an addicted gambler and my game-protect account is an useless alt of TwitchySeal LOOOL
Still no idea what "blackmail front masquerading" means, but I think the first sentence is solved.
What do you think Twitchy?
Having a vendetta against Betcoin.ag and dragging in other members to remove their advertising and twisting shit up makes me give you the red you deserve.
Now why do people think that quoting a long post to in turn write a tiny one is a good idea? Just reply naturally, seriously.
First off: I'm not sure about what was twisted. Secondly, have you seen this post about all of Betcoin's problems?
Please read it, and avoid using ad hominem to say that the evidence is invalid - because it's not. If that doesn't change your opinion then not much more would.
Better I answer here.....instead of making a 3rd edit....of adding feedback to the Scammer gameprotect which no doubt is either Twitchy himself (which I believe is that jason jackpot guy)
which no doubt is either Twitchy himself (which I believe is that jason jackpot guy)(from Og thread)
Please stop. Making these ridiculous connections with accounts only makes you look more ignorant. Also, if you know about the problem with the Betsoft jackpot, then why would you still trust Betcoin? It doesn't make much sense - a player wins a jackpot, the casino refuses to pay out and ignores him for several days, then offers him a settlement to shut up and promote Betcoin (in a few posts anyway). How is that trustworthy exactly?
Edit: Instead of responding to this thread, OgN added another accusation to my neg feedback "Posts out of context edited PMs in an attempt to discredit forum members"
Here are the screen shots of every single pm I've had with OgN: INBOX - SENT
I will be directing anyone who thinks OGNastys high level of trust has anything to do with the site he chooses to promote in his signature (Betcoin.ag) to this thread. Example
To avoid being accused of putting a spin on what really happened, I've included every pm between OGNasty and myself. The only editing was removing re-quotes to make it easier to read. I'm happy to provide screenshots or give a trusted member/mod access to my account to verify everything is authentic.
Edit: A day or so after creating this thread I sent OgN the following pm and received a response.
Edit: OgN has changed the feedback he left me:
(I deny all of his accusation and have posted screen shots of all the pms I've received from him at top of thread)
Here are the screen shots of every single pm I've had with OgN: INBOX - SENT
I will be directing anyone who thinks OGNastys high level of trust has anything to do with the site he chooses to promote in his signature (Betcoin.ag) to this thread. Example
To avoid being accused of putting a spin on what really happened, I've included every pm between OGNasty and myself. The only editing was removing re-quotes to make it easier to read. I'm happy to provide screenshots or give a trusted member/mod access to my account to verify everything is authentic.
The user threatened to left me negative feedback unless I send funds back to the purchaser of my signature auction and remove the signature. That is extortion and I have 0 respect for people who try to bully me. I also have 0 tolerance for this type of behavior. If you guys want to pick a fight with one of the most trusted people and employees of this forum as some sort of vengeance scheme, good luck. It isn't that I don't respect you, it is that I don't respect this extorting behavior and have 0 tolerance for it or anyone that supports it.
I have made my comments about signature campaigns publicly known. I'm not going to go back searching through threads to try and find my comments or waste any more time explaining why giving a user negative feedback for who won their auction is ridiculous, or waste my time pointing out that they bought my signature and anyone is welcome to do so. If you choose who is trustworthy by who spends the most on advertising, you have a long hard life ahead of you. Take some responsibility and let other people be responsible for who they choose to gamble with. I couldn't care less. As far as I'm concerned all gambling sites are scams that prey on people's addictions. Trying to say that I deserve negative feedback because of which scam won my auction is once again ridiculous.
This forum has a policy of not moderating scams. I have also been vocal about removal of this policy, but it is simply too big of a task. I don't know what sort of background investigations you expect me to perform on advertisers who buy my signature, but if you guys think that I spend literally any time caring, you are mistaken. I put the space up for auction, people bid, I provide the winner with what I say. Nothing about this makes me untrusted and aligning yourself with someone who wishes to attempt to extort me into bowing to their demands will only make you look bad to this community as a whole, as that user is a red painted extorting piece of shit, and I'm a user who has helped thousands of members on this forum, has one of the highest trust ratings of anyone here, and is literally paid for my contributions here.
Please do not continue baiting me into PMs for the purpose of trying to make me look bad. I'm in the right here. You guys are obviously in the wrong and using extortion techniques as a means for control will continue to disappoint you.
I have made my comments about signature campaigns publicly known. I'm not going to go back searching through threads to try and find my comments or waste any more time explaining why giving a user negative feedback for who won their auction is ridiculous, or waste my time pointing out that they bought my signature and anyone is welcome to do so. If you choose who is trustworthy by who spends the most on advertising, you have a long hard life ahead of you. Take some responsibility and let other people be responsible for who they choose to gamble with. I couldn't care less. As far as I'm concerned all gambling sites are scams that prey on people's addictions. Trying to say that I deserve negative feedback because of which scam won my auction is once again ridiculous.
This forum has a policy of not moderating scams. I have also been vocal about removal of this policy, but it is simply too big of a task. I don't know what sort of background investigations you expect me to perform on advertisers who buy my signature, but if you guys think that I spend literally any time caring, you are mistaken. I put the space up for auction, people bid, I provide the winner with what I say. Nothing about this makes me untrusted and aligning yourself with someone who wishes to attempt to extort me into bowing to their demands will only make you look bad to this community as a whole, as that user is a red painted extorting piece of shit, and I'm a user who has helped thousands of members on this forum, has one of the highest trust ratings of anyone here, and is literally paid for my contributions here.
Please do not continue baiting me into PMs for the purpose of trying to make me look bad. I'm in the right here. You guys are obviously in the wrong and using extortion techniques as a means for control will continue to disappoint you.
I strongly disagree with the way you justify promoting Betcoin.ag and will be creating a thread about your stance and argument you've presented tomorrow.
This has absolutely nothing to do with your neg rep comment you left me and everything to do with what you consider "extortion" and your rationale behind/what I believe the result will be from your decision to promote Betcoin.ag I will be leaving negative feedback for everyone that promotes Betcoin.ag this week.
I don't want to start a war with you or anyone, this is just an attempt at being transparent with my thoughts . I do not intend to do any damage to your reputation. (I'm also not naive enough to think I could) The way you are handling this really bothers me , I feel like maybe I'm not doing a good job of explaining the situation and hopefully someone you respect will see the thread and say something that makes you look at things from a perspective you aren't now. Or several perspectives.
This has absolutely nothing to do with your neg rep comment you left me and everything to do with what you consider "extortion" and your rationale behind/what I believe the result will be from your decision to promote Betcoin.ag I will be leaving negative feedback for everyone that promotes Betcoin.ag this week.
I don't want to start a war with you or anyone, this is just an attempt at being transparent with my thoughts . I do not intend to do any damage to your reputation. (I'm also not naive enough to think I could) The way you are handling this really bothers me , I feel like maybe I'm not doing a good job of explaining the situation and hopefully someone you respect will see the thread and say something that makes you look at things from a perspective you aren't now. Or several perspectives.
Not my stance dude. It's the forum's stance. If you don't like it, you can leave. Burning your account trust to try and prove some point about me providing exactly what I said I would provide to the winner of my signature auction only makes you look foolish.
I've said I agree with you about gambling, scams, signatures... I even said I would not let them advertise when their month contract is up. You seem to not agree with me about how much time and effort I should put into vetting gambling sites, or any other site that chooses to buy my signature advertising. You think I should research every single member here and put up auction rules banning them in advance. You're ridiculous, your stance is ridiculous, the way you're trying to handle it is ridiculous, and you're going to lose any shred of credibility you think you have by continuing forward with this course of action.
You think I should not honor the terms of my auction, or I am untrustworthy. Even going as far as to attempt to join in on an extortion attempt. This will end poorly for you.
I've said I agree with you about gambling, scams, signatures... I even said I would not let them advertise when their month contract is up. You seem to not agree with me about how much time and effort I should put into vetting gambling sites, or any other site that chooses to buy my signature advertising. You think I should research every single member here and put up auction rules banning them in advance. You're ridiculous, your stance is ridiculous, the way you're trying to handle it is ridiculous, and you're going to lose any shred of credibility you think you have by continuing forward with this course of action.
You think I should not honor the terms of my auction, or I am untrustworthy. Even going as far as to attempt to join in on an extortion attempt. This will end poorly for you.
He ordered me to send my BTC to another party or he was going to retaliate. That's extortion. Pretty simple.
Edit: A day or so after creating this thread I sent OgN the following pm and received a response.
Hi,
Just wanted to make sure you were aware of this thread so that I won't incorrectly assume you are choosing not to respond.
I've been waiting to discuss my opinion for you to respond. I've tried to approach the situation as objectively and transparently as possible.
Also I would appreciate it if you let me know who or what led you to conclude that Games-Direct is my alt.
I think it's a safe assumption that you didn't reach this conclusion on your own, but I could be wrong I suppose.
Thanks,
TwitchySeal
I've wasted more than enough time responding to your extortion attempts. Welcome to my ignore/block list.Just wanted to make sure you were aware of this thread so that I won't incorrectly assume you are choosing not to respond.
I've been waiting to discuss my opinion for you to respond. I've tried to approach the situation as objectively and transparently as possible.
Also I would appreciate it if you let me know who or what led you to conclude that Games-Direct is my alt.
I think it's a safe assumption that you didn't reach this conclusion on your own, but I could be wrong I suppose.
Thanks,
TwitchySeal
Edit: OgN has changed the feedback he left me:
(I deny all of his accusation and have posted screen shots of all the pms I've received from him at top of thread)
Having a vendetta against Betcoin.ag and dragging in other members to remove their advertising and twisting shit up makes me give you the red you deserve.
Seems many people want to join this campaign after OgNasty became the campaign manager xD
Things are now in favor of betcoin.ag
Things are now in favor of betcoin.ag
What? Is he a manager or is he just participating in campaign?
He's the manager of this campaign and I think he's participating in the campaign also not sure about this.
I know this question came into your mind after you took a look @ this signatures
He is only participating as a user, not as a manager.
Don't know what made you think that he is, because there was never talk about him being anything more than a simple member of the campaign.
Hi guys. In order to clarify OgNasty is not a manager and I really do not know who told you that.
1 BTC for wearing the signature, that is interesting.
(Oh, and don't move to ad-hominem attacking me next! As surely, that'll be your way of changing the subject, yes?)
I made a point that his involvement in the case is personal since his whole history is nothing but betcoin trolling/attacking, while mine is not.
Also, i never received anything other than a sig.payment from them but it's funny how both of you insinuate such things when someone doesn't agree with you.
Someone posting every day for over a year, bashing and attacking specific services - they are either mentally unstable or acting out of another interest.
what is wrong with attacking proven scam site while you and clones of yours non-stop defending scams?
On this forum, anybody can be bought. Green trusted user or not. In Ognasty's case his price is 1btc. Even if you are a proven scam site like Betcoin. All you need is 1 btc and his "trusted" account will advertise you. Then the hypocritical mods would turn a blind eye but would happily red trust other accounts for promoting ponzis and other services they are not affiliated with. Save your energy TwitchySeal, just read through the 1000 btc giveaway thread, to see the kind of people you are dealing with.
OGNasty did offer to add a term in future sales that red trusted accounts couldn't buy his signature space.(Oh, and don't move to ad-hominem attacking me next! As surely, that'll be your way of changing the subject, yes?)
Just be glad you aren't wearing a paid signature. "You guys at YoBit are so worried about betcoin dominating the gambling market so you have to attack them instead" or "SatoshiGames.io is worried about betcoin' a competition so they hired you to attack them!" or in my case, apparently I'm a cryptogames affiliate.(Oh, and don't move to ad-hominem attacking me next! As surely, that'll be your way of changing the subject, yes?)
I made a point that his involvement in the case is personal since his whole history is nothing but betcoin trolling/attacking, while mine is not.
Also, i never received anything other than a sig.payment from them but it's funny how both of you insinuate such things when someone doesn't agree with you.
Someone posting every day for over a year, bashing and attacking specific services - they are either mentally unstable or acting out of another interest.
Btw, with your paid signature argument, did you realize that most, if not all of the people defending betcoin are wearing betcoin.ag signatures?
On this forum, anybody can be bought. Green trusted user or not. In Ognasty's case his price is 1btc. Even if you are a proven scam site like Betcoin. All you need is 1 btc and his "trusted" account will advertise you. Then the hypocritical mods would turn a blind eye but would happily red trust other accounts for promoting ponzis and other services they are not affiliated with. Save your energy TwitchySeal, just read through the 1000 btc giveaway thread, to see the kind of people you are dealing with.
OGNasty did offer to add a term in future sales that red trusted accounts couldn't buy his signature space.
On this forum, anybody can be bought. Green trusted user or not. In Ognasty's case his price is 1btc. Even if you are a proven scam site like Betcoin. All you need is 1 btc and his "trusted" account will advertise you. Then the hypocritical mods would turn a blind eye but would happily red trust other accounts for promoting ponzis and other services they are not affiliated with. Save your energy TwitchySeal, just read through the 1000 btc giveaway thread, to see the kind of people you are dealing with.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/twitchyseal-538922 Everyone who looks at his first posts (back from 2015) and doesn't realize how the account is a shill is [insert random borderline insulting word here].
His account is a shill for what?Did not find anything indicating that this is not his account
Do you know the meaning of facts ?
(Oh, and don't move to ad-hominem attacking me next! As surely, that'll be your way of changing the subject, yes?)
I made a point that his involvement in the case is personal since his whole history is nothing but betcoin trolling/attacking, while mine is not.
Also, i never received anything other than a sig.payment from them but it's funny how both of you insinuate such things when someone doesn't agree with you.
Someone posting every day for over a year, bashing and attacking specific services - they are either mentally unstable or acting out of another interest.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/twitchyseal-538922 Everyone who looks at his first posts (back from 2015) and
doesn't realize how the account is a shill is [insert random borderline insulting word here].
-cut-doesn't realize how the account is a shill is [insert random borderline insulting word here].
You have ~1100 posts in ~ 1year - I'm estimating that more than 90% of them is simply attacking betcoin, and countless thread where you attack everyone who doesn't agree with you on the topic of them.
For the 100th time, post from your real account please. Given the fact that you're posting only to attack/discredit/troll casino sites, i am certain you have personal interest in it.
Oh, and here's just a few that I found.
Though now you've moved on to attacking TwitchySeal and defending Betcoin, I see. Surely, they're going to pay you well for those efforts!
(Oh, and don't move to ad-hominem attacking me next! As surely, that'll be your way of changing the subject, yes?)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/twitchyseal-538922 Everyone who looks at his first posts (back from 2015) and
doesn't realize how the account is a shill is [insert random borderline insulting word here].
-cut-doesn't realize how the account is a shill is [insert random borderline insulting word here].
You have ~1100 posts in ~ 1year - I'm estimating that more than 90% of them is simply attacking betcoin, and countless thread where you attack everyone who doesn't agree with you on the topic of them.
For the 100th time, post from your real account please. Given the fact that you're posting only to attack/discredit/troll casino sites, i am certain you have personal interest in it.
Please let me summarize what's going on here for people not having the time to read all this. Tl;dr:
Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
That pretty much sums it up. +all the shills trying to mud the competing casino.
This thread just proves the attempts to bully people into doing what they want, well it won't work.
Twitchy, you would have much more credibility on the case if you would just post from your real account.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/twitchyseal-538922 Everyone who looks at his first posts (back from 2015) and
doesn't realize how the account is a shill is [insert random borderline insulting word here].
Within my first week of signing up, someone made a ridiculous [Betcoin Stole My Money PROOF] thread after depositing a bunch of fractions worth of chips and not getting full credit or something.
I called him an idiot or something.
Got this email the next day and 25 or 30 chips in my account.
Do you see the issue with online casinos behaving like this ajareselde?
Please let me summarize what's going on here for people not having the time to read all this. Tl;dr:
Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
That pretty much sums it up. +all the shills trying to mud the competing casino.
This thread just proves the attempts to bully people into doing what they want, well it won't work.
Twitchy, you would have much more credibility on the case if you would just post from your real account.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/twitchyseal-538922 Everyone who looks at his first posts (back from 2015) and
doesn't realize how the account is a shill is [insert random borderline insulting word here].
Please let me summarize what's going on here for people not having the time to read all this. Tl;dr:
Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
That pretty much sums it up. +all the shills trying to mud the competing casino.
This thread just proves the attempts to bully people into doing what they want, well it won't work.
Twitchy, you would have much more credibility on the case if you would just post from your real account.
That pretty much sums it up. +all the shills trying to mud the competing casino.
This thread just proves the attempts to bully people into doing what they want, well it won't work.
Twitchy, you would have much more credibility on the case if you would just post from your real account.
And what, pray tell, do you think his "real account" is? I see that your main point against this is that people are trying to shill for competing casinos, to drive away Betcoin.ag. There are countless casinos out there. The exclusion of one would not be worth the time for "shills". Marketing for themselves would be more efficient than downplaying other casinos.This thread just proves the attempts to bully people into doing what they want, well it won't work.
Twitchy, you would have much more credibility on the case if you would just post from your real account.
Countless ?! I'm talking about casinos that advertise here on forum, where betcoin is thorn in the eye of some campaigns.
I wont be guessing Twitchy's real account name, i would like for him to be honest and reveal it himself.
Please let me summarize what's going on here for people not having the time to read all this. Tl;dr:
Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
That pretty much sums it up. +all the shills trying to mud the competing casino.
This thread just proves the attempts to bully people into doing what they want, well it won't work.
Twitchy, you would have much more credibility on the case if you would just post from your real account.
Ooo, he updated the neg feedback on me...
Because he hasn't provided any evidence or rationale to back up his claims, it's kind of hard to defend myself other than simply denying it.
TwitchySeal provides support for user "game-protect" <--False
to try and extort forum members. <--False
Posts out of context edited PMs <--- He may be referring to this post where I posted a summary of his accusations against me, and included a link to this thread. Like I said before, the OP of this thread and follow up post include every single interaction I have ever had with OgNasty. Absolutely nothing was taken out of context and I'll happily cooperate with anyone who is interested in verifying my claim. If I was lying about this, it would be quite easy for OgNasty to prove me wrong.
Uses alternate accounts to leave negative trust for members he disagrees with. <---False
Avoid interacting with this user.
Because he hasn't provided any evidence or rationale to back up his claims, it's kind of hard to defend myself other than simply denying it.
TwitchySeal provides support for user "game-protect" <--False
to try and extort forum members. <--False
Posts out of context edited PMs <--- He may be referring to this post where I posted a summary of his accusations against me, and included a link to this thread. Like I said before, the OP of this thread and follow up post include every single interaction I have ever had with OgNasty. Absolutely nothing was taken out of context and I'll happily cooperate with anyone who is interested in verifying my claim. If I was lying about this, it would be quite easy for OgNasty to prove me wrong.
Uses alternate accounts to leave negative trust for members he disagrees with. <---False
Avoid interacting with this user.
That pretty much sums it up. +all the shills trying to mud the competing casino.
This thread just proves the attempts to bully people into doing what they want, well it won't work.
Twitchy, you would have much more credibility on the case if you would just post from your real account.
And what, pray tell, do you think his "real account" is? I see that your main point against this is that people are trying to shill for competing casinos, to drive away Betcoin.ag. There are countless casinos out there. The exclusion of one would not be worth the time for "shills". Marketing for themselves would be more efficient than downplaying other casinos. This thread just proves the attempts to bully people into doing what they want, well it won't work.
Twitchy, you would have much more credibility on the case if you would just post from your real account.
It's all unnecessarily convoluted but since Og is not going to respond here the only feasible option seems to be for Twitchy to step back and accept that OgNasty will see through his agreement with Betcoin for the current month. He did provide a logical explanation - even if not satisfactory to Twitchy - why he's not removing the sig right now (contractual obligation). After that if he doesn't add a neg trust clause and/or continues with Betcoin ads then Twitchy might have a point. Until then I just don't see any possible positive outcome from trying to escalate this further.
No. His explanation is not logical. Promises or contracts with publicly proven scams are never valid.Not only they are not valid, but you are also obliged by criminal laws and civil right to withdraw from it as soon as you get aware of the scam. Just to clarify, criminal laws and civil right always stand above Terms of Service.
Therefore, if TOS are not in accordance with laws, then they are not valid! It is as simple as that...
Also, who is the user that threatened OgNasty?
Do you care about getting the ad removed or just playing a lawyer on the intertubes?
Please let me summarize what's going on here for people not having the time to read all this. Tl;dr:
Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
That pretty much sums it up. +all the shills trying to mud the competing casino.
This thread just proves the attempts to bully people into doing what they want, well it won't work.
Twitchy, you would have much more credibility on the case if you would just post from your real account.
Please let me summarize what's going on here for people not having the time to read all this. Tl;dr:
Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
You are quite bad at summarizing stuff.Please stay away from it.You don't seem to understand anything what's being discussed here,hence no sense out of your post is expected.Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
Sure. Whatever floats your boat mate
till when pointing out scam and trying to prevent it called greed and jealousy?
It's all unnecessarily convoluted but since Og is not going to respond here the only feasible option seems to be for Twitchy to step back and accept that OgNasty will see through his agreement with Betcoin for the current month. He did provide a logical explanation - even if not satisfactory to Twitchy - why he's not removing the sig right now (contractual obligation). After that if he doesn't add a neg trust clause and/or continues with Betcoin ads then Twitchy might have a point. Until then I just don't see any possible positive outcome from trying to escalate this further.
No. His explanation is not logical. Promises or contracts with publicly proven scams are never valid.Not only they are not valid, but you are also obliged by criminal laws and civil right to withdraw from it as soon as you get aware of the scam. Just to clarify, criminal laws and civil right always stand above Terms of Service.
Therefore, if TOS are not in accordance with laws, then they are not valid! It is as simple as that...
Also, who is the user that threatened OgNasty?
Please let me summarize what's going on here for people not having the time to read all this. Tl;dr:
Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
You are quite bad at summarizing stuff.Please stay away from it.You don't seem to understand anything what's being discussed here,hence no sense out of your post is expected.Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
Sure. Whatever floats your boat mate
Please let me summarize what's going on here for people not having the time to read all this. Tl;dr:
Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
You are quite bad at summarizing stuff.Please stay away from it.You don't seem to understand anything what's being discussed here,hence no sense out of your post is expected. Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
just go to mountain and dig some potatoes to make your life be worthfull.
Please let me summarize what's going on here for people not having the time to read all this. Tl;dr:
Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
It seems like you really hate me and probably didn't read too much more than the first sentence of my OP.Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
These last two posts reminded of your first post in this thread, and the response from (likely) someones alt account that also seemed to be intentionally bad english.
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You all spend a lot of time mud-slinging at each other. You need to find a more productive pastime here on the forums.
OP, calm down, why OGNasty can't promote betcoin.ag? Because betcoin ban you? You talk about this everyday, looks like a loser, no offense, just working harder!You all spend a lot of time mud-slinging at each other. You need to find a more productive pastime here on the forums.
If you read the entire conversation, I think you'll find very little mud slinging and realize that I'm probably not doing this because I'm jealous of someones advertisement deal...
Please let me summarize what's going on here for people not having the time to read all this. Tl;dr:
Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
Some guy got paid 1 BTC to essentially scratch his virtual balls for 1 month in advance.
Other people not scratching their virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month saw that guy was scratching his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month.
Greed and jealousy kicked in.
Heated debate followed about why this one guy is allowed to scratch his virtual balls for 1 BTC in 1 month and they can't.
So OGNasty is the new Master-P. Let me keep it that way... 
Time will justify the statement.
Time will justify the statement.
Are you mad? Did Og scam someone to the tune of 25 BTC?
No doubt that there is clearly a substantial difference of opinion between two forum members - and even involving trust ratings, which I don't think is appropriate - but comparing this to an outright escrow scam is ludicrous.
Without being ignorant just look at the pms sent by OGNasty in OP. He seeks positive trust wherever possible and extorts and sends negative trust to users wh are against his opinion. This was the exact behaviour of Master-P. So yeah, I'm standing by my statement for now. You’ll get to know the rest in future...
Btw, I won't even trade with OGNasty without an escrow if ever I have to trade anything!
Anyone can advertise Betcoin.ag and no one can really dictate people to stop advertising anything here,
If twitchy and both of you cannot do nothing here and just troll betcoin.ag well get a life outside men you cannot be successfull on destroying their reputation. And just tell on who pay's both of you thay you are been failed to your mission.
Jasonort cased has been closed down or anything it is been fix by them. He is announced it clearly with his very own message.
And yet still both of you barking and barking for them.
Be openminded boys Just tell to your BOSS or who evers pays BOTH of you or maybe there are many of you who are paid troll that MISSION FAILED!!.
just go to mountain and dig some potatoes to make your life be worthfull.
So OGNasty is the new Master-P. Let me keep it that way...
Time will justify the statement.
Time will justify the statement.
Are you mad? Did Og scam someone to the tune of 25 BTC?
No doubt that there is clearly a substantial difference of opinion between two forum members - and even involving trust ratings, which I don't think is appropriate - but comparing this to an outright escrow scam is ludicrous.
Without being ignorant just look at the pms sent by OGNasty in OP. He seeks positive trust wherever possible and extorts and sends negative trust to users wh are against his opinion. This was the exact behaviour of Master-P. So yeah, I'm standing by my statement for now. You’ll get to know the rest in future...
Btw, I won't even trade with OGNasty without an escrow if ever I have to trade anything!
It's all unnecessarily convoluted but since Og is not going to respond here the only feasible option seems to be for Twitchy to step back and accept that OgNasty will see through his agreement with Betcoin for the current month. He did provide a logical explanation - even if not satisfactory to Twitchy - why he's not removing the sig right now (contractual obligation). After that if he doesn't add a neg trust clause and/or continues with Betcoin ads then Twitchy might have a point. Until then I just don't see any possible positive outcome from trying to escalate this further.
Edit: TBH I couldn't care less about the alt part. It looks like OgNasty offered a reasonable solution but somehow this still got escalated out of proportion:
Regardless of this situation and how it played out, OgNasty should add a clause like that to their contract with advertisers.You do realize that is the forum's policy, right?
If you were to remove your negative trust, I can put in a policy that companies with negative trust can no longer bid on my signature advertising slot. This would mean I would no longer be advertising for betcoin.ag (or similar untrusted organizations) at the end of this month.
That is the best I can do without breaking the contract I have in place, and is a final attempt at compromise to end this feud with you.
If you were to remove your negative trust, I can put in a policy that companies with negative trust can no longer bid on my signature advertising slot. This would mean I would no longer be advertising for betcoin.ag (or similar untrusted organizations) at the end of this month.
That is the best I can do without breaking the contract I have in place, and is a final attempt at compromise to end this feud with you.
If they are not ready to refund the advertisers and don't want to break their contract either, a rule like that is the only way to get out of being tied up in a month-long contract with a company you can't/won't advertise for.
Not just with betcoin, but also with any future advertising partners (imagine a company turning outright scam at the second of a month and you continuing to advertise them for 30 days without any reaction/comment).
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Twitchy, where does OgNasty say that GP is your alt? Looking at the PMs it seems you bring it up first, unless they're not in chronological order. I wasn't online for a few days and came back on August 7th. OgNasty sent me a pm on August 5th that only said "Remove It..." (it was the only pm from him) Before I realized he had left me neg feedback, I responded Quote Hi, I've been traveling and honestly not sure what you're referring to. Then I realized: G-P left OgNasty this neg feedback on August 3rd: Promotes the publicly proven betcoin.ag scam for his own financial benefit = criminal offense. Betcoin.ag publicly make false and misleading statements in their "Terms of Service" section, has no juridical valid "legally binding agreement" and hide the name of the operator! In case of embezzlement/fraud, you likely have no legal recourse. <----The only neg feedback of any kind OgN has received. OgN left me this neg feedback on Aug 5th: Provides support for user "game-protect" to try and extort forum members. OgN also left G-P this neg feedback on the same day: Useless alt of an addicted gambler. Ignore him and his blackmail front masquerading as a service. I assumed OgN thought G-P was actually Me and his "Remove It..." pm was referring to the neg feedback he received from G-P and responded: Quote Ok, I just saw your neg trust on my profile. I am not games-protect. Technically I was the first to "bring it up" but it was just an elephant in the room up till then. It's also worth mentioning that the same day G-P left OgN his neg feedback, on another forum (twoplustwo) a longtime poster that I had literally never had any interaction with or recognized posted the following in the Betcoin thread: (bobbo is a mod) Quote from: WichitaDM;50530553 Bobbo I don't know if you know this or not but you are arguing with TwitchySeal or his proxy who is a well known mentally ill malcontent. I would recommend just ignoring him and/or banning him before this gets even worse. Check bitcointalk if you don't believe me. He hasn't posted in the thread since and has ignored a couple pms from me asking why he said what he did about me. (If anyone knows who he is here, let me know, I really just want to know the truth) It's also worth mentioning my relationship with G-P. Across 3 different forums we've exchanged maybe 4 pms ever. I agree with a lot of what he says and consider him a valuable resource in fighting unethical casinos. However, I am very wary about the services he offers on his website so at first I left him neutral trust warning people to use caution when considering his services. Over the past few weeks I've revised my feedback a few times. Just keep changing my mind. I added positive feedback thanking him for his efforts and the info he has made public about unethical casinos. Then I felt bad about the neutral rep and removed it after seeing all the shit he was getting and also because it was partially based on someone else's opinion from another forum rather than facts. Then I changed my mind again and was worried my trust would be interpreted as an endorsement for his website, which I am honestly unsure of, so I removed the positive trust and currently have only the following neutral trust: Shares valuable info to help make it more difficult for online sites to get away with scummy behavior. That being said, this is not a vouche for their site or services. I want to be clear though, my feedback for G-P has literally nothing to do with OgNastys threats, pms or the feedback he left me. I have no issue with why or how G-P went about dealing with OgN. In fact It's very possible I will soon be leaving anyone who promotes Betcoin negative feedback. I think it's pathetic and alarming the number of people who have no problem accepting money from Betcoin to advertise for them and then not only refuse to accept any responsibility whatsoever for their actions, they act as if they are the victims. I think many actually believe it!: Quote from: OgNasty Take some responsibility and let other people be responsible for who they choose to gamble with. I couldn't care less. As far as I'm concerned all gambling sites are scams that prey on people's addictions. Trying to say that I deserve negative feedback because of which scam won my auction is once again ridiculous. wtf?^^^
I don't know a lot about the betcoin.ag scenario but if a member is still advertising a know scam site then they should remove that advertising asap.
I was once in a campaign that turned out to be a scam, crypto vpn i think it was and as soon as someone told me it was a scam and i confirmed it i took the signature down. I can't be blammed if someone got scammed from the company i was advertising unless i continued to do so long after being made aware of the situation. Twitchy, where does OgNasty say that GP is your alt? Looking at the PMs it seems you bring it up first, unless they're not in chronological order. Read the quotes from game-protect. I'll assume they were both PMing him at around the same time, so he was convinced that they were the same user and accused him through game-protect's account.I am not sure of Twitchy's mindset when he was sending the PMs, however I think the rating that OgNasty left twitchy semi-implies that they are the same person. Twitchy's conversation with OgNasty seems to confirm this theory. I have no idea if they are the same person or not, however I have not seen any evidence that they are the same person, credible or not. I think the service that game-protect is offering will not well, protect his customers, and I do not trust him. I am curious to hear from OgNasty if the PMs are accurate and if anything is missing from the PMs. I think I would still trust OgNasty with decent amounts of money if the PMs are accurate and not missing any pernanent information, however I would also be very disappointed. Edit: Edit: TBH I couldn't care less about the alt part. It looks like OgNasty offered a reasonable solution but somehow this still got escalated out of proportion: Regardless of this situation and how it played out, OgNasty should add a clause like that to their contract with advertisers.You do realize that is the forum's policy, right? If you were to remove your negative trust, I can put in a policy that companies with negative trust can no longer bid on my signature advertising slot. This would mean I would no longer be advertising for betcoin.ag (or similar untrusted organizations) at the end of this month. That is the best I can do without breaking the contract I have in place, and is a final attempt at compromise to end this feud with you. If they are not ready to refund the advertisers and don't want to break their contract either, a rule like that is the only way to get out of being tied up in a month-long contract with a company you can't/won't advertise for. Not just with betcoin, but also with any future advertising partners (imagine a company turning outright scam at the second of a month and you continuing to advertise them for 30 days without any reaction/comment). Edit: TBH I couldn't care less about the alt part. It looks like OgNasty offered a reasonable solution but somehow this still got escalated out of proportion: Regardless of this situation and how it played out, OgNasty should add a clause like that to their contract with advertisers.You do realize that is the forum's policy, right? If you were to remove your negative trust, I can put in a policy that companies with negative trust can no longer bid on my signature advertising slot. This would mean I would no longer be advertising for betcoin.ag (or similar untrusted organizations) at the end of this month. That is the best I can do without breaking the contract I have in place, and is a final attempt at compromise to end this feud with you. If they are not ready to refund the advertisers and don't want to break their contract either, a rule like that is the only way to get out of being tied up in a month-long contract with a company you can't/won't advertise for. Not just with betcoin, but also with any future advertising partners (imagine a company turning outright scam at the second of a month and you continuing to advertise them for 30 days without any reaction/comment). Twitchy, where does OgNasty say that GP is your alt? Looking at the PMs it seems you bring it up first, unless they're not in chronological order. Read the quotes from game-protect. I'll assume they were both PMing him at around the same time, so he was convinced that they were the same user and accused him through game-protect's account.So you're saying game-protect is indeed Twitchy's alt? How would Twitchy otherwise know what went down between those two in PMs? I'm talking about this PM: Ok, I just saw your neg trust on my profile. I am not games-protect. But the neg trust only says: Quote Provides support for user "game-protect" to try and extort forum members. Nothing about alts. That's like saying "Suchmoon helped an old lady to cross the street" and then I respond "I'm not an old lady". Doesn't quite follow. Edit: TBH I couldn't care less about the alt part. It looks like OgNasty offered a reasonable solution but somehow this still got escalated out of proportion: Promises to promote a publicly proven scam are juridically not valid! LOL, seek help for your criminal addiction I am ready for whatever fight... Good luck! You do realize that is the forum's policy, right? If you were to remove your negative trust, I can put in a policy that companies with negative trust can no longer bid on my signature advertising slot. This would mean I would no longer be advertising for betcoin.ag (or similar untrusted organizations) at the end of this month. That is the best I can do without breaking the contract I have in place, and is a final attempt at compromise to end this feud with you. Twitchy, where does OgNasty say that GP is your alt? Looking at the PMs it seems you bring it up first, unless they're not in chronological order. Read the quotes from game-protect. I'll assume they were both PMing him at around the same time, so he was convinced that they were the same user and accused him through game-protect's account.
Twitchy, where does OgNasty say that GP is your alt? Looking at the PMs it seems you bring it up first, unless they're not in chronological order.
I've been holding off responding to give OgNasty a chance to comment. I guess that won't be happening from the last pm I received:
Hi, Just wanted to make sure you were aware of this thread so that I won't incorrectly assume you are choosing not to respond. I've been waiting to discuss my opinion for you to respond. I've tried to approach the situation as objectively and transparently as possible. Also I would appreciate it if you let me know who or what led you to conclude that Games-Direct is my alt. I think it's a safe assumption that you didn't reach this conclusion on your own, but I could be wrong I suppose. Thanks, TwitchySeal I've wasted more than enough time responding to your extortion attempts. Welcome to my ignore/block list. Wtf is happening here? This guy seemed like such a nice guy and super trusted till I asked him (politely) to not promote Betcoin in his signature. He seems convinced that Games-Protect is my alt (which is not true) but will not explain why he thinks so. He claims he thinks gambling and signature campaigns are evil but justifies his Betcoin Signature with: Quote from: OgNasty There's really nothing I can do about it at this point. I took their money to advertise for the month. -snip- not many people are willing to pay several hundred dollars for a signature ad. -snip- He has exactly 0 negative feedback sent ever except for these. :  How is that even possible to have so much trust and be around so long without a single neg trust - yet be so willing to pull the trigger in this case? I'm honestly confused by his behavior. I have included every single interaction I've ever had with him in OP and now this post. I think it's possible someone from Betcoin "warned" him about me and told him I was G-D and convinced him I'm just a super horrible person? or Maybe he's just really obsessive about not having any red trust on his profile and when G-P left it he just lost his mind with rage? I don't know. If any of his friends read this though, I'd appreciate if you're able to try and figure out wtf is really going on here. So OGNasty is the new Master-P. Let me keep it that way... Time will justify the statement. Are you mad? Did Og scam someone to the tune of 25 BTC? No doubt that there is clearly a substantial difference of opinion between two forum members - and even involving trust ratings, which I don't think is appropriate - but comparing this to an outright escrow scam is ludicrous.
So OGNasty is the new Master-P. Let me keep it that way...
Time will justify the statement. The user threatened to left me negative feedback unless I send funds back to the purchaser of my signature auction and remove the signature. That is extortion and I have 0 respect for people who try to bully me. -snip- Who?
OgNasty threatened me. Someone can see the original messages per Teamviewer if required:
I'm going to paint your other account red with negative feedback if you don't remove this. Thought I'd give you the chance to do the right thing first. What other account _______________ Here's the negative feedback I'll be returning to you tomorrow if you do not remove the unwarranted negative feedback immediately. I will be more harsh to alt accounts I discover linked to this account, as well as alerting the scam patrol and moderator staff to do the same. Please do the right thing and save us both the time and negative energy. Quote Leaving negative feedback because of who purchased my advertising? Clearly this unstable individual and his service should be avoided. Unwarranted? I explained perfectly why betcoin.ag is a publicly proven scam. If you are unsure you can consult a lawyer. If the criminal laws of your jurisdiction allow to promote a publicly proven scam for your own financial benefit, please quote them and I will remove my feedback and apologise. I have enough time, money and energy to fight against criminals... Best regards, _______________ What other account I'm not going to dignify you with any further discussion. Tomorrow I will leave you negative feedback if you do not do the right thing. If you send me any other message besides apologize for leaving me negative trust because I fulfilled the promise of my signature auction then I will set your account to ignore. I'm not going to play games with you.. Good luck. Seek help for your gambling addiction. Nobody is to blame for your current situation but yourself. Promises to promote a publicly proven scam are juridically not valid! LOL, seek help for your criminal addiction I am ready for whatever fight... Good luck! _______________ Promises to promote a publicly proven scam are juridically not valid! LOL, seek help for your criminal addiction I am ready for whatever fight... Good luck! You do realize that is the forum's policy, right? If you were to remove your negative trust, I can put in a policy that companies with negative trust can no longer bid on my signature advertising slot. This would mean I would no longer be advertising for betcoin.ag (or similar untrusted organizations) at the end of this month. That is the best I can do without breaking the contract I have in place, and is a final attempt at compromise to end this feud with you. TwitchySeal has a point and he is really trying to bust the scam casinos,in this case,OGnasty is in a situation which is out of his control.Ditching a signature while he's paid for a month in advance would not only result in bad terms with the casino but affects his reputation overall Quote from: Joel_Jantsen Quote You clearly want me to stop advertising for them, so if you'd like to send me 1 BTC, I'll happily refund them and find a new advertiser. That is the best solution out here.Not only for twitchy seal but anyone who wants the signature to be taken down right away.Quote Obviously making a private conversation public in an attempt to discredit me further would result in more negative feedback. That seems like a clear threat ,directly/indirectly!Quote How about not giving trust to an alt account in order to attempt to extort me? I'm sure I don't have to explain to OG Nasty how feedbacks work.Basically,they don't mean shit without the valid references,of course there are obvious exceptions! TwitchySeal has a point and he is really trying to bust the scam casinos,in this case,OGnasty is in a situation which is out of his control.Ditching a signature while he's paid for a month in advance would not only result in bad terms with the casino but affects his reputation overall.The best solution on his end could be refunding the money back to Betcoin and discontinuing the signature.Since he doesn't have any problems with the casino or maybe he shouldn't be suffering loses of the result which came out later,he can surely ask for people who seem to have problem with his signature to cover up for his loses. Quote You clearly want me to stop advertising for them, so if you'd like to send me 1 BTC, I'll happily refund them and find a new advertiser. That is the best solution out here.Not only for twitchy seal but anyone who wants the signature to be taken down right away. OP, calm down, why OGNasty can't promote betcoin.ag? Because betcoin ban you? It's not a question of whether OgNasty can promote Betcoin; anyone can. It's a question of whether he should. What with Betcoin's history being dodgy at best it can very easily give people (especially newer members) a skewed impression of a company's trust and ethics should someone as trusted as OgNasty advertise for them - especially so whilst using words such as "The most trusted Bitcoin and Litecoin Casino". You all spend a lot of time mud-slinging at each other. You need to find a more productive pastime here on the forums. By the way I am the only one not wearing a fucking signature. The irony I don't wear either, lol OP, calm down, why OGNasty can't promote betcoin.ag? Because betcoin ban you? You talk about this everyday, looks like a loser, no offense, just working harder!
You all spend a lot of time mud-slinging at each other. You need to find a more productive pastime here on the forums.
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