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There will be no justice here. Thankfully, OG could not lie to the auditor.
Topic: OgNasty Ponzi passthrough and ponzi fans.. BTC losses everywhere he goes - page 16. (Read 8011 times)
December 07, 2019, 01:24:49 AM
OG is calling everyone in this thread a liar, despite the fact he was audited, and is now awaiting his fate. :/
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53280278
There will be no justice here. Thankfully, OG could not lie to the auditor.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53280278
There will be no justice here. Thankfully, OG could not lie to the auditor.
December 07, 2019, 01:03:24 AM
When pirate opened his plan up to the public, users moved to dealing with him directly. There's a reason you can't find any victims. I'm flattered at the amount of effort you all put into trolling me, but it really is shameful what you will swear to. I think you need to take a long hard look into your own lives and see what it is that makes you want to attack someone who has honestly been so successful here. You should be happy for me, not spouting incessant lies like a band of rabid jealous failures.
December 06, 2019, 07:09:22 PM
But, but he said this:
Now I don't know the whole story behind all of this, so I'm going to refrain from passing any judgement without knowing all the details, but am I to understand that 65BTC was paid out instead of the 2,638.25BTC that should have been because OgNasty assumed that everyone would have thought BST was insolvent and therefore didn't make restitution to its investors at all, i.e., didn't pay anyone anything?
And is TwitchySeal also suggesting that OgNasty's investors/customers would never find out about the 2638.25BTC?
I'm genuinely curious about this, as it all happened well before I got into bitcoin.
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The reserve fund was paid out and all users were satisfied. End of story.
Now I don't know the whole story behind all of this, so I'm going to refrain from passing any judgement without knowing all the details, but am I to understand that 65BTC was paid out instead of the 2,638.25BTC that should have been because OgNasty assumed that everyone would have thought BST was insolvent and therefore didn't make restitution to its investors at all, i.e., didn't pay anyone anything?
And is TwitchySeal also suggesting that OgNasty's investors/customers would never find out about the 2638.25BTC?
I'm genuinely curious about this, as it all happened well before I got into bitcoin.
I’ve had to make some assumptions because og edited/deleted a lot of posts after he found out I was looking into it and before I was able to archive them and has just deflected/attacked me when asked about it. I know what was invested through July of 2012 (up till August 1), but not was invested in August, the month the ponzi collapsed. Og announced he was paying out the reserves bc pirateat defaulted on sept 1.
If he has evidence that would clear himself he should post it. I have no problem admitting I’m wrong.
December 06, 2019, 06:31:51 PM
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That seems to be Twitchy's hypothesis, yes, and it's a fairly solid one as far as I can see.
One thing to keep in mind (because it came up in another unrelated thread) is that the eye-watering amount of 2000+ BTC was not quite as huge back then. Divide it by 1000 or so if you want to gauge the scale in fiat terms. Worth noting before someone jumps in to accuse Og of scamming $20 million.
December 06, 2019, 06:07:49 PM
But, but he said this:
Now I don't know the whole story behind all of this, so I'm going to refrain from passing any judgement without knowing all the details, but am I to understand that 65BTC was paid out instead of the 2,638.25BTC that should have been because OgNasty assumed that everyone would have thought BST was insolvent and therefore didn't make restitution to its investors at all, i.e., didn't pay anyone anything?
And is TwitchySeal also suggesting that OgNasty's investors/customers would never find out about the 2638.25BTC?
I'm genuinely curious about this, as it all happened well before I got into bitcoin.
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The reserve fund was paid out and all users were satisfied. End of story.
Now I don't know the whole story behind all of this, so I'm going to refrain from passing any judgement without knowing all the details, but am I to understand that 65BTC was paid out instead of the 2,638.25BTC that should have been because OgNasty assumed that everyone would have thought BST was insolvent and therefore didn't make restitution to its investors at all, i.e., didn't pay anyone anything?
And is TwitchySeal also suggesting that OgNasty's investors/customers would never find out about the 2638.25BTC?
I'm genuinely curious about this, as it all happened well before I got into bitcoin.
December 06, 2019, 05:53:26 PM
Goddamn... Really makes me wonder why anyone would trust that guy with BTC.
Great work there, fascinating really. But not unexpected.
Great work there, fascinating really. But not unexpected.
December 06, 2019, 03:40:19 PM
Update:
I'm not sure how I missed this back then, but pirateat claimed to the SEC that he returned the full balance of a handful of investors, including OGNasty.
The following transcript is from page 35 of this document. Q = Question = SEC Investigator. A = Answer = pirateat40/Trendon Shavers.
Then on September 1, 2012 he edited in this update:
According to my calculations, as of August OGNastys pass-through had BTC2,638.25 invested total, and the reserve was at BTC65.
All the evidence, including the fact he went back and edited/deleted a ton of posts as soon as he knew I was looking into this), points to OGNasty receiving a full payout of BTC2,638.25 that belonged to the OGNasty Pass-Through investors from pirateat in August 2012 while everyone, including his investors, was learning that the whole thing was a scam. Knowing that his investors would assume that Pirateat40 had their investments, he only paid out the BTC65 reserve to them and kept the rest.
(Also, I had a bunch of years in this this thread as 2011, but they should have been 2012. I archived them all and then edited in the right year just now.)
I'm not sure how I missed this back then, but pirateat claimed to the SEC that he returned the full balance of a handful of investors, including OGNasty.
The following transcript is from page 35 of this document. Q = Question = SEC Investigator. A = Answer = pirateat40/Trendon Shavers.
Due to the news of BTCST closing, I have requested all funds from the account and will be returning them to depositors as soon as received.
I will be looking into options to keep the program running in one form or another, but most likely I will close this program down to focus on NastyMining. Thank you to all my depositors.
I will be looking into options to keep the program running in one form or another, but most likely I will close this program down to focus on NastyMining. Thank you to all my depositors.
Then on September 1, 2012 he edited in this update:
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UPDATE:
Bitcoin Savings & Trust is officially in default and the reserve fund has been paid out to depositors.
Bitcoin Savings & Trust is officially in default and the reserve fund has been paid out to depositors.
According to my calculations, as of August OGNastys pass-through had BTC2,638.25 invested total, and the reserve was at BTC65.
All the evidence, including the fact he went back and edited/deleted a ton of posts as soon as he knew I was looking into this), points to OGNasty receiving a full payout of BTC2,638.25 that belonged to the OGNasty Pass-Through investors from pirateat in August 2012 while everyone, including his investors, was learning that the whole thing was a scam. Knowing that his investors would assume that Pirateat40 had their investments, he only paid out the BTC65 reserve to them and kept the rest.
(Also, I had a bunch of years in this this thread as 2011, but they should have been 2012. I archived them all and then edited in the right year just now.)
March 20, 2018, 09:12:01 PM
so still no straight answer from OG about "paying out" to his clients.. .was it only the 65BTC or was it the full deposit?
slippery man slips the question again!
slippery man slips the question again!
?so from the silence we can only gather that OG paid out 65BTC and did not make users whole as he eluded to..
take that as you will people
March 19, 2018, 10:12:57 AM
Fraud by false representation
(1) A person is in breach of this section if he—
(a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and
(b) intends, by making the representation—
(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or
(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.
(2) A representation is false if—
(a) it is untrue or misleading, and
(b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.
(3) “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of—
(a) the person making the representation, or
(b) any other person.
(4) A representation may be express or implied.
(5) For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention).
(1) A person is in breach of this section if he—
(a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and
(b) intends, by making the representation—
(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or
(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.
(2) A representation is false if—
(a) it is untrue or misleading, and
(b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.
(3) “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of—
(a) the person making the representation, or
(b) any other person.
(4) A representation may be express or implied.
(5) For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention).
March 12, 2018, 11:18:40 AM
Watch this video and love seeing Quicky blowing OG dynasty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vao5rn7OHPo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vao5rn7OHPo
March 12, 2018, 10:26:02 AM
Quickseller is a scammer and anyone affiliated with him is either his fucking alt or a blowjob cabin.
I like your style.. so does the above apply to OG?
I am sure that when my account was hacked then it was traded by Quickseller only ,because escrow scams are something he is best at.
I am also sure that this Quickscummy tard is having many multiple accounts here and keeps posting with his alt to divert the topic, when account farming is in your blood then you have no ethics.
I simply cross product both of them as QuickNasty and OGseller, both loves cheap sauces and fucking bean nuts.
March 12, 2018, 06:32:50 AM
Quickseller is a scammer and anyone affiliated with him is either his fucking alt or a blowjob cabin.
I like your style.. so does the above apply to OG?
March 12, 2018, 05:29:57 AM
Quickseller is a scammer and anyone affiliated with him is either his fucking alt or a blowjob cabin.
March 12, 2018, 03:05:05 AM
so still no straight answer from OG about "paying out" to his clients.. .was it only the 65BTC or was it the full deposit?
slippery man slips the question again!
slippery man slips the question again!
? March 07, 2018, 08:36:36 AM
I don't see why you think you can act the way you do (same for the others), and that anyone would want to give credence to what your opinion is. Maybe because you think some people agree with you sometimes?
Kind Regards
Panthers52
Kind Regards
Panthers52
I'm gonna cry now, Quicksy sad bad things about my opinion and did it with a puppet so it's like doubleplusungood
Yeah, right.
You're confused, probably has to do with your alt-puppeting. Your desire to bend this forum to some twisted fantasy of yours doesn't mean that everyone behaves that way. Stop projecting. I couldn't give any less shit about someone agreeing or disagreeing with me on teh intertubes.
March 07, 2018, 04:38:26 AM
I don't see why you think you can act the way you do (same for the others), and that anyone would want to give credence to what your opinion is. Maybe because you think some people agree with you sometimes?
Kind Regards
Panthers52
Kind Regards
Panthers52
Hey Quickspazzer you alright?
Listen plenty of people agree to us - the issue is that your mate OG is on DT! that scares plenty of people.. I have had messages both on and off forum commending me for trying to take down the Snake oil salesman. People are afraid to speak out as they will be given a nice red neg, me I dont give a shit about that, neither does owl or twitchy by the look of things.
in time I will reveal more information about OG - his arrest record alone is horrible reading for someone who is trusted so much online.
March 07, 2018, 03:28:10 AM
I find it HIGHLY ironic that OGnasty has EXCLUDED well know scam-busting users, like Cryptodevil and Suchmoon.
It's your fault Owlz...
(/ssssss)The only place where I ever crossed paths with the mighty Og in a less-than-cordial way was when I posted a positive trust for you. That guy is like three-degrees-of-separation-angry.
Not sure what cryptodevil did to him. Maybe just the "devil" in the name is enough to set Og off.
Kind Regards
Panthers52
Such a coincidence though. Really crazy.
Quicksy's alts can read Og's mind. Also crazy.
I prefer Occam though.
Kind Regards
Panthers52
March 05, 2018, 11:54:10 PM
I find it HIGHLY ironic that OGnasty has EXCLUDED well know scam-busting users, like Cryptodevil and Suchmoon.
It's your fault Owlz...
(/ssssss)The only place where I ever crossed paths with the mighty Og in a less-than-cordial way was when I posted a positive trust for you. That guy is like three-degrees-of-separation-angry.
Not sure what cryptodevil did to him. Maybe just the "devil" in the name is enough to set Og off.
Kind Regards
Panthers52
Such a coincidence though. Really crazy.
Quicksy's alts can read Og's mind. Also crazy.
I prefer Occam though.
I am developing a man crush on you.. the negative trust on your account is just legend worthy bud
March 05, 2018, 11:27:17 PM
I find it HIGHLY ironic that OGnasty has EXCLUDED well know scam-busting users, like Cryptodevil and Suchmoon.
It's your fault Owlz...
(/ssssss)The only place where I ever crossed paths with the mighty Og in a less-than-cordial way was when I posted a positive trust for you. That guy is like three-degrees-of-separation-angry.
Not sure what cryptodevil did to him. Maybe just the "devil" in the name is enough to set Og off.
Kind Regards
Panthers52
Such a coincidence though. Really crazy.
Quicksy's alts can read Og's mind. Also crazy.
I prefer Occam though.
March 05, 2018, 11:14:47 PM
There has been no evidence of wrongdoing posted for me to respond to. Only dim witted personal insults and incorrect assumptions.
The passthrough numbers that twitchy posted show that you that you made a profit and your clients lost out. It's clear in the numbers twitchy posted. That's what you need to refute
OG still slipping by the pertinent questions.. keep sending in QS and his alts, but the question still remains
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