Topic: Ok, here's a 1BTC puzzle. - page 5. (Read 14607 times)

This puzzle is truly mind boggler one and the prize is quite interesting I did not encounter any puzzle like this before you need to have a strong technical background in cryptography before you can answer this also tried with some combinations using the brainwallet for almost 3 hours but no luck. .btw I can see .txt at the end of the answer is not actually related to answer in my opinion its just a file extension from the filename.

There are 35 characters (37 if we take the number 21 into consideration) so I am not sure how you could possibly derive the right 8 passwords through a permutation cipher.

My issue with this is that while it's clearly an anagram, it doesn't have to be a permutation cipher. In fact, the odds of it being a permutation cipher actually seem pretty low - because the key has to be 15 characters long. Example:

SATOSHINAKAMOTO
CRAIGSWRIGHTBTC
A key exists that maps the first to the second... but that doesn't prove anything.

3- or 5-character keys would also work, but none exist that map Natasha... -> Satoshi. If there was one, this would dramatically increase the odds of being on the right track.

Totally hear you, Cassius. Here's my method, though.


Here are the steps...basically...and of course I could be wrong but take it with a grain of salt.

1. We know Natasha Otomoski is equivalent to Satoshi Nakamoto. That's very obvious.

2. To obtain NATASHAOTOMOSKI=SATOSHINAKAMOTO we know how the letters have to be arranged. Its exactly what Watashi-Kokoto said (whether he's the OP or not doesn't matter).

3. So numbering 1-15, we get "5, 2, 3, 8, 13, 6, 15, 1, 4, 14, 7, 11, 10, 9, 12"

4. Now let's use an alphabet:

5. A=1, B=2, C=3 D=4, E=5, etc..

6. Now rearrange the alphabet using step 3:

7. "E   B   C   H   M   F   O   A   D   N   G   K   J   I   L"

8. This is the decryption key.

9. (8,2,3,9,1,6,11,4,14,13,12,15,5,10,7)⇔(5,2,3,8,13,6,15,1,4,14,7,11,10,9,12)-1



SUMMARY

What I'm saying is that we know the NATASHA --> SATOSHI is a permutation. So, why wouldn't the rest of the phrase be as well?  I could be totally in left-field, for sure. But this is my best assumption.

I get what you're saying, sure. But just because a key exists that turns one phrase into another doesn't make that key meaningful.
If it was a 3- or 5-character key, that could be more meaningful. But there will always be a 15-character key that turns one 15-character phrase into another 15-character phrase. So it's basically irrelevant.

https://crypto.interactive-maths.com/permutation-cipher.html

I’ll type a detailed response after breakfast. You can use this permutation cipher silver to check the key. Type natashaotomoski in the bottom box, the key where it says key, and hit decrypt.

How can you be sure this is a permutation cipher? It's equally possible the 'key' is just the result of a random anagram, right?

Would you mind explaining real quick how you arrived at this key? (sorry, I'm just a simpleton)

So I'm tired of trying this weekend.

is a permutation cipher. I've known this for a while. Here's the key:


Here's what I can't figure out. If the remainder of the phrase is also a permutation cipher, how do we extend this key? It does NOT work for the entire phrase.

If we can figure out the key for the WHOLE phrase, that'll give us the full translation for whatever the ?.txt file might be.

Someone skilled in decoding might have some ideas. Let's keep this going

edit:

It's fairly simple.

You convert your 8 word/32 char, CamelCase English phrase with no special symbols into a private key/address (ie. brain wallet)... if you get the address: 179sxfh6rw6bHSo5wVUhLP96k46QaEzVP then you go it correct. If you don't get that address, then you're wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_notation

In following with my previous idea that the teeth reference is a literal one, I just discovered that Dentistry labels teeth from A-T, and 1-32.

Coincidentally, the phrase CombOfNatashaOtomoski does not contain letters outside of the range of A-T.

Might be useful..

Exactly!...how the heck do we check? For the love of everything, OP, release a second hint..

I think Every Shot will be in the dark if we don't get how get privat key from our ideas! whe you will find something how you check it on correct ? 

Another Complete Shot In The Dark...

Idea 1:
What if we thought of the question as:

Why The (CombOfNatashaOtomoski) Has 21 teeth?

My reason to focus on CombOfNatashaOtomoski is that it's 21 chars.

Likewise, we can choose to interpret the question in 2 more ways:
Why The Combination "OfNatashaOtomoski" Has 21 Teeth?
Why The Combination Of "NatashaOtomoski" Has 21 Teeth?


Idea 2:

Letters like m, n, h can look like teeth. Depending on what you interpret to look as a tooth (e.g m looks like 2 teeth):

      1            2                3,4                                       5                      6,7                    8                                        9
W   h   y   T   h   e   C   o   m   b   O   f   N   a   t   a   s   h   a   O   t   o   m   o   s   k   i   H   a   s   2   1   T   e   e   t   h      

9 "teeth" in this sentence, or more or less depending on what you interpret as "teeth".    


Just trying to think super "out of the box"...
                    

Edit: Included more interpretations of the question

Simple bruteforcer. For words from the list no success.

https://github.com/Igor-san/1BtcPuzzle

Why 32 character? PK has 30 's long  It seems we need only answer contain words and some like brain wallet//// 

Hello all. I've been following this thread for a while, and I just made an account to share my thoughts with everyone. Most of my thoughts turned out to be exactly like Cassius' analysis, but I'll share them anyway. I am not a cryptography expert, coder, engineer, or anything of the sort, so I'm looking at this through fresh eyes and from a different mindset.

THIS WILL BE LONG.

Part 1: The Potential Watashi Kokoto / Blockladder Connection

1. From Watashi Kokoto's posts, and Blockladder's (OP) old posts (cached on google search), they both seem highly technically knowledgable. Blockladder in one of his old posts says he is "not an academic", but despite this, he and Watashi seem extremely knowledgable about advanced cryptographic concepts, algorithms, coding, etc. This to me is a +1 for the argument that they're the same person.

2. However, if Watashi truly is Blockladder, why was he the very first to reply in the thread with a hint nobody asked for? If I were OP, I'd wait a bit to see if people were struggling or something, then drop the hint, I wouldn't have jumped the gun with the anagram hint before anyone had even commented. Furthermore, the anagram was immediately obvious to everyone and is very clear, I don't think such a hint would be necessary from OP at all? -1 for them being the same person.

3. Watashi never denies being Blockladder later on in the thread though. Maybe he enjoys people thinking so? Maybe just doesn't care? Maybe missed the posts about the connection? Not sure...but I'll give it a +1 for them being the same person.

4. If Watashi is OP in disguise giving hints, the hints are super bad. I'm sorry, but it's true. The anagram was super obvious, and the image posted later didn't contain much. I ran it through steganography analysis and didn't find anything hidden in it. Despite another user pointing out the coincidences between the image post and the bitcoin mailing archive, I don't think the picture amounts to anything (Although...why would Watashi take the time to create and post such an unsolicited image? And if Watashi is OP, wouldn't he know that an image clue coming from Blockladder's account would be a million times more significant to us hunters?) - 1 for them being the same person.

Conclusion: I do not believe Watashi and Blockladder are the same person. Perhaps they are both technical geniuses however, and perhaps they are friends, given how they comment in each others' threads as discovered by f8man. It would be kind of psychotic for Watashi to comment on his own threads as Blockladder outside the context of a riddle, no?

Part 2: The Question

1. Could the answer be something obvious in the question? For example, could "21 teeth" mean the number of straight edges of letters or something like that?
2. Why is the question phrased as such? The correct grammar for the question is any of the following:
              
                Why DOES The Comb of Natasha Otomoski HAVE 21 teeth? (Where Natasha is the owner of the comb).

                Why DOES the COMBINATION of “Natasha Otomoski” have 21 teeth? Implies the subject of the sentence is the combination of the letters/words making up “Natasha Otomoski” i.e reorganizing the order of letters would somehow yield 21 variations or teeth or SOMETHING.

                In statement form, the grammar checks out. E.g: This Is The Reason Why The Comb Of Natasha Otomoski Has 21 Teeth. However, this discards the question mark at the end...so there must be a reason OP deliberately used this spelling, and in question form. The words must have been very carefully chosen, perhaps in order to be transformed into the solution later? In other words, phrasing the question in the correct grammar would yield the incorrect solution if we solve it using the mysterious method OP has in mind.

Part 3: The ".txt"

1. The .txt might not mean the white paper at all. Perhaps the sentence “WhyTheCombOfNatashaOtomoskiHas21Teeth?” is supposed to be decoded into a filename. The file then becomes “filename.txt”. Perhaps this could be searched for online, and inside it contains the private key or the 8 word 32 char answer.

2. The .txt might be a hint to converting chars to ascii codes during the solving process, or to use plaintext directly?

Please help me expand upon the .txt theories, it might unlock the secret to everything.

Part 4: The Anagram.

1. OP must’ve absolutely known that people would pick up on that anagram right away. It is the first thing that stands out and is obvious.

2. Could the code table in Watashi's first post be needed for something?

3. Could the meaning of the made up name “Satoshi Nakamoto” mean something for the solution? The following analysis of the name is from https://www.fastcompany.com/1785445/bitcoin-crypto-currency-mystery-reopened
Part 5: The Hint.

1. Is this the seed phrase that will unlock the wallet? Is this merely an intermediary step that must then be converted through some kind of algorithm into the final solution? Alas, no one knows but OP.

2. It seems the hint created more questions than answers, but it is, in the end, OP's hint. So for the sake of taking things at face value, I will assume the hint is about the final answer, which will be an 8 word english phrase amounting to 32 chars, written in camelCase. Or is it CamelCase? (notice the difference?)

3. camelCase (e.g. iPhone, eBay) would result in a different answer than CamelCase (e.g. WhyDoesThe). It's worth noting, however, that OP wrote the riddle in CamelCase, with the first "W" being capitalized.

4. Idk if this means anything at all, but if we follow this:


and extract the letters at the positions of the 2nd row numbers in the original question:

1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9  10  11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22  23 24  25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39  40 41  42
W  h   y   T   h   e   C   o   m   b   O   f   N   a   t   a   s   h   a   O   t   o   m   o   s   k   i   H   a   s   2   1   T   e   e   t   h   ?    .    t    x    t

we end up with:

8   2   3   9   1   6   11   4   14   13   12   15   5   10   7
o   h   y   m   W   e   O   T   a   N   f   t   h   b   C

Reorganized in ascending order, it's simply: WhyTheCombOfNat. I'm shooting in the dark guys, pls don't hate.

Hi guys. Sorry for my bad english. I am not the author of this script (apparently jajorda23), I just adapted it for Python 3.
The script works correctly, gives an uncompressed address. You can check here https://www.bitaddress.org on the Wallet Details tab.

Is it this correct manipulation with words to get Privat Key?  ( Because i get different key when use it)

P.s Apologise to Author of this code.



# importing binascii to be able to convert hexadecimal strings to binary data
import binascii
#private_key_static = "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002"
private_key_static = binascii.hexlify("Your words hire".encode())
print (private_key_static.decode())
# Step 1: here we have the private key
private_key_static = "29a59e66fe370e901174a1b8296d31998da5588c7e0dba860f11d65a3adf2736"
# Step 2: let's add 80 in front of it
extended_key = "80"+private_key_static
# Step 3: first SHA-256
first_sha256 = hashlib.sha256(binascii.unhexlify(extended_key)).hexdigest()
# Step 4: second SHA-256
second_sha256 = hashlib.sha256(binascii.unhexlify(first_sha256)).hexdigest()
# Step 5-6: add checksum to end of extended key
final_key = extended_key+second_sha256[:8]
# Step 7: finally the Wallet Import Format is the base 58 encode of final_key
WIF = base58.b58encode(binascii.unhexlify(final_key))
print (WIF)

By the name of Isaac, it took less than two months to do this.