Topic: Old simplecoin thread - page 24. (Read 99808 times)

Once the site has enough liquid balance, I'm thinking about adding unconfirmed payouts in a manner similar to btcguild. Any interest?

Additionally, transaction fees will be reduced to 0BTC as soon as I can get all of the code in place.

UPDATE: No more tx fees!

Wow, I did a traceroute to your IP from the server, looks like you might have some laggy hops on comcast on the west coast. Somehow I get a better connection from Comcast Nashville,TN to the servers in LA.

I'm not sure the best way to attack the issue, but I'm looking into it.

Nice! a lucky one If my calcs are right, that should more than make up for our last 2 long rounds   

Restarted it, and just looking quickly I have 35 Accepted and 19 Stale.  IP is 98.232.43.92, and I'm using a phatk Pheonix miner under guiminer. In case it matter what hardware, it's a 5750.

DING! 


SC- if this sucker matures, please roll my bonus on to the next round

Woo new block!

That's really odd. I have 13 stales on my main miner after 1 day. PM me your IP so I can have the colo try to track down any routing problems. Also, it wouldn't hurt to know what miner you are using, and cpu or gpu mining. Also, have you tried restarting your miner (could be LP issues)?

Yeah, I'm getting a lot of stale shares on this, and not a lot at bitcoin.lc (I have them set as a backup miner). Almost 25% for you guys, and less than 2% on bitcoin.lc

Any idea what's going on?

Current site fees, transaction fees, and round scoring are now dynamically listed on the Home page. These are the exact same database entries used for payout calculation.

I'll be migrating this to the github source shortly. Just one more way for the site to be completely open with our users.

Ok, I did some digging on the stale shares....

It seems most likely that it is router/isp dependent. Longer connections like long-polling tend to be killed off by routers or disrupted by flaky isps/traffic routes. Your stales shouldn't fluctuate much between pools, with the exception of mega pools with tons of workers. That said, a bad route to the server from your ISP could cause certain pools to have higher stale rates.

If the pool gets large enough, I'll likely setup pushpool nodes in hotspots near high-usage locations similar to btcguild.

In the case of a bad network route, I'm not enough of a network guy to know if it can be rerouted easily from your end.

In the case of a router killing connections (seems my wifi accesspoint has this issue), I'd try a different one or a reconfigure.

YAY! 

Just added simplecoin to the guiminer ui. Hopefully it'll be standard in the next release.

I'm fine either way. The math is easy to do if you want to see the pure proportional estimate
Pure proportional estimate = (your current shares / rounds's shares) * 49.5

So as long as you have a calculator or are really good with an abacus, you can have it both ways.

Makes no difference to me either way bitcoin gets into wallet and still they are just estimates....  ESTIMATES it is going to flux thus why we call them estimates lol

Lets looks at the very definition of Estimate:
–verb (used with object)
1. to form an approximate judgment or opinion regarding the worth, amount, size, weight, etc., of; calculate approximately: to estimate the cost of a college education.
2. to form an opinion of; judge.
–verb (used without object)
3. to make an estimate.
–noun
4. an approximate judgment or calculation, as of the value, amount, time, size, or weight of something.
5. a judgment or opinion, as of the qualities of a person or thing.
6. a statement of the approximate charge for work to be done, submitted by a person or business firm ready to undertake the work.
—Synonyms
1.  compute, count, reckon, gauge, assess, value, evaluate, appraise.
4.  valuation, calculation, appraisal.

Therefor asking for a truer estimate is like asking for a truer number of chicken eggs to hatch we really cant tell cause pardon my french but shit happens.
thus the saying you can count your eggs before they have hatched.

So yes I realize we want thing to be perfect but that just not gonna happen I want Resistors to be exactly correct when I make a circuit, but that is few and
 far between I still have to fudge the numbers or build with tolerances in mind when I design circuits. So AS long as your getting payed and there is no major
discrepancies don't make such a fit about something that is an estimate ruffle feathers.

so when looking at a "estimate" keep in mind it is just that an estimate. The pool can make step to make it more accurate but in the long run its still gonna change.

Please excuse my chicken references as I am from Kansas originally Living in Arizona thus farm land are in my past lol.

It is a little disheartening, to see it rise fast, then watch it slowly tick away on a long round!

Hell! I don't really care, as long as it's all the same!

I'd prefer pure estimates, but I'm not a powerful hasher right now, so if other people disagree they're higher priority.

Yes, the earnings estimates are off for proportional scoring..... mostly due to a lot of early users seeing their estimates stay the same or dropping (then freaking out).

Estimates currently climb until difficulty is reached (like a pps counter).

If enough people prefer pure estimates, I'm happy to recode it.

They are way off.
SC - maybe change that calculation to the basic (current shares/round shares) * 49.5 = est. earnings. With a disclaimer that this is only an estimate and may be off by a bit since it's cheat-proof scoring.
That way people don't get freaked out.

I got the bonus thanks.

FYI: The estimated earnings are WAY off:


Current Shares:   91958
Round Shares:   337276
Est. Earnings:   2.94163254 BTC

I'd mine here if the combined hashing rate wasn't so low. At the current hash rate there is too much variance in luck (like the last block)
It would only make sense to have proportional payouts, otherwise people would lose too much money. I want to be paid for the work that I did contribute, even if I leave the round.

Edit:
For example. If the next round lasted a month like the last one, and someone was mining for a week with no success, they would just move to another pool to get their time's worth. With proportional scoring he would get maybe 50% of the reward he would potentially have a month later, but it's better than not being rewarded at all (score system).
As opposed to "forcing" someone to stay in a month-long round, which yields up to a 50% loss in profit