[OLD THREAD] Silk Network: Silk, DarkSilk and Weaver - page 55.

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Quote from: Orestes on June 09, 2016, 08:07:42 PM

Quote from: traK4Ubitl on June 09, 2016, 08:04:33 PM

I'm in cryptocurrency for freedom. For not being borne into corporate global bamker debt. Into freedom. Into right to own property before state... you really think id let you guys destroy what arteleis believed in an hand over all my silk to your corporation??? Are you serious. I'm again. HIGJLY considering taking over Silkcoin with my capital on principle.

Again you are mistaken we are not here to take your freedom. The corporation won't own the blockchain, its opensource. Its for the activities that we deploy on and for the blockchain that we use the corporation.

Loll cmon man.. remember the bitcoin foundation?? How'd that turn out? Paycoin? Mintpal? Crypto? ..Silkcoin?? Remember? Wtf we are all here. NOT a corporation. A decentralized solution to investing and using cash globally NOT for the dark market hahaha

FUCK CORPORATIONS unless YOU give me money! Not vice versa! I deal with corporate retards all the time! This is supposed to be freedom.. and if not should be managed correctly which clearly it's not.. silkcoin IS abandoned.

Edit: as stated by the Silk network Ltd.. res nullius. Abandoned property. No rights or responsibilities. Only a piggy back ride all the way to the show they didn't even pay for..

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Quote from: traK4Ubitl on June 09, 2016, 08:04:33 PM

I'm in cryptocurrency for freedom. For not being borne into corporate global bamker debt. Into freedom. Into right to own property before state... you really think id let you guys destroy what arteleis believed in an hand over all my silk to your corporation??? Are you serious. I'm again. HIGJLY considering taking over Silkcoin with my capital on principle.

Again you are mistaken we are not here to take your freedom. The corporation won't own the blockchain, its opensource. Its for the activities that we deploy on and for the blockchain that we use the corporation.

But i see you have a radical mind, i have one myself but you have to respect the rules of the world and work with them.
We will defend the ideas of property and anonimity of transactions. Again if you only knew...

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Quote from: Orestes on June 09, 2016, 07:41:46 PM

Quote from: traK4Ubitl on June 09, 2016, 07:27:18 PM

At this point I nearly prefer taking over the development of it to preserve what it was...

Edit: the longest standing coin without recognition.

Edit: don't kill the fucking dream for a corporation you. Sick psycohpaths

A corporation is necessary and not evil. The western judicial system has judeo-christian roots, even if one were to be in trouble sure there is constitution but after that there are more permanent laws to consider. The system does not try to abolish law only to emulate. Sooner or later all will conform. This is not slavery, its freedom. Know the law, when and where it applies, and when it does not.

Having a legal entity is a must for us! But consumer privacy is a must for the public, we will walk the tight rope whenever we must.

You don't live out a dream hiding in shadows, you bring it in the light!
The old world and the new world need to be bridged, you must understand.

I'm in cryptocurrency for freedom. For not being borne into corporate global bamker debt. Into freedom. Into right to own property before state... you really think id let you guys destroy what arteleis believed in an hand over all my silk to your corporation??? Are you serious. I'm again. HIGJLY considering taking over Silkcoin with my capital on principle.

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Quote from: nzminer on June 09, 2016, 07:55:49 PM

And i still have all my chat history with Artelesis, not that i intend on making it public, i respect his privacy.

You told the truth. Nothing to post. Unless it disproves my issue.

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Quote from: drizzle2405 on June 09, 2016, 07:40:46 PM

Ok so Trak is pissed about the change of Silkcoin to Silk and the Silk Network becoming a company...

There it's out in the open.

Well unless the people running the show want to change all the plans for 1 person, this won't be resolved.

Hey I tried... Nothing can be done.

Good cast. Hey it's tough being the scapegoat..wouldn't expect you to be I may shoes. Long live Silkcoin.

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And i still have all my chat history with Artelesis, not that i intend on making it public, i respect his privacy.

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Quote from: traK4Ubitl on June 09, 2016, 07:27:18 PM

At this point I nearly prefer taking over the development of it to preserve what it was...

Edit: the longest standing coin without recognition.

Edit: don't kill the fucking dream for a corporation you. Sick psycohpaths

A corporation is necessary and not evil. The western judicial system has judeo-christian roots, even if one were to be in trouble sure there is constitution but after that there are more permanent laws to consider. The system does not try to abolish law only to emulate. Sooner or later all will conform. This is not slavery, its freedom. Know the law, when and where it applies, and when it does not.

Having a legal entity is a must for us! But consumer privacy is a must for the public, we will walk the tight rope whenever we must.

You don't live out a dream hiding in shadows, you bring it in the light!
The old world and the new world need to be bridged, you must understand.

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Ok so Trak is pissed about the change of Silkcoin to Silk and the Silk Network becoming a company...

There it's out in the open.

Well unless the people running the show want to change all the plans for 1 person, this won't be resolved.

Hey I tried... Nothing can be done.

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Quote from: traK4Ubitl on June 09, 2016, 07:26:29 PM

Quote from: drizzle2405 on June 09, 2016, 07:11:45 PM

Ok I've been in this since early 2015... And it was known in 2015 that it was going to be changed from Silkcoin to Silk and would be a whole new coin... So when did you get in?

It's been well known for a long time.

I was in when the little punk bailed from the coin being the first high intensity GUI after paying multiple Indian devs a d running out of money.. . Like 4threads back.
What I need credentials? Trak4ubitl... there's my credentials.

It's like this. Truth hides in the shadows and doesn't reveal itself unless you ask. When you ask the layers of the onion are peeled back. All hail MEGAMAN

So you are saying you were in this from the beginning? Geez man I gave you the time I got in... March 2015... Can you answer the question... Never said you needed credentials...

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Quote from: drizzle2405 on June 09, 2016, 07:24:38 PM

I truly think wires got crossed in the information Trak was told and he later found out it wasn't what was truly going on... Outside of the development....

The code had problems and the consensus was just to do a swap and start fresh.

Makes the most sense to me. Why would you want to continue a fucked up coin with shitty code and lots of problems when you can tear it apart, swap it out and start fresh.

So wtf is the point of being pissed about a new beginning? You're not losing anything... How many coins have been rebranded... Gimme a break.

At this point I nearly prefer taking over the development of it to preserve what it was...

Edit: the longest standing coin without recognition.

Edit: don't kill the fucking dream for a corporation you. Sick psycohpaths

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Quote from: drizzle2405 on June 09, 2016, 07:11:45 PM

Ok I've been in this since early 2015... And it was known in 2015 that it was going to be changed from Silkcoin to Silk and would be a whole new coin... So when did you get in?

It's been well known for a long time.

I was in when the little punk bailed from the coin being the first high intensity GUI after paying multiple Indian devs a d running out of money.. . Like 4threads back.
What I need credentials? Trak4ubitl... there's my credentials.

It's like this. Truth hides in the shadows and doesn't reveal itself unless you ask. When you ask the layers of the onion are peeled back. All hail MEGAMAN

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I truly think wires got crossed in the information Trak was told and he later found out it wasn't what was truly going on... Outside of the development....

The code had problems and the consensus was just to do a swap and start fresh.

Makes the most sense to me. Why would you want to continue a fucked up coin with shitty code and lots of problems when you can tear it apart, swap it out and start fresh.

So wtf is the point of being pissed about a new beginning? You're not losing anything... How many coins have been rebranded... Gimme a break.

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I don't know I'm sorry but following this bouncing ball and the posts in the closed thread, it seems to me that Trak did not know Silkcoin itself was being shut down and going to change to Silk.

No idea on the conversations that went down between him and Arteleis, but... There appears to be a disconnect... Big time.

Far back as I can remember I believe was even March 2015 it was known the coin would be changed to just Silk... And I was in at that time and still in.

I know for a fact a lot of people kept getting confused thinking Silkcoin was being exchanged to Darksilk, which again was another mistake and I cannot count the number of times users in the forum including Spencer had to correct it and say that Silkcoin is changing to Silk... Darksilk is a whole other animal, then people got confused why there would need to be 2 coins... And so on...

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Quote from: SLievensDRKSLK on June 09, 2016, 07:12:42 PM

Quote from: drizzle2405 on June 09, 2016, 07:11:45 PM

Ok I've been in this since early 2015... And it was known in 2015 that it was going to be changed from Silkcoin to Silk and would be a whole new coin... So when did you get in?

It's been well known for a long time.

Which was before Arteleis disappeared.

Yes WAYYYYY before he disappeared.

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Quote from: drizzle2405 on June 09, 2016, 07:11:45 PM

Ok I've been in this since early 2015... And it was known in 2015 that it was going to be changed from Silkcoin to Silk and would be a whole new coin... So when did you get in?

It's been well known for a long time.

Which was before Arteleis disappeared.

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Ok I've been in this since early 2015... And it was known in 2015 that it was going to be changed from Silkcoin to Silk and would be a whole new coin... So when did you get in?

It's been well known for a long time.

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Quote from: drizzle2405 on June 09, 2016, 07:03:44 PM

Quote from: traK4Ubitl on June 09, 2016, 07:01:58 PM

Quote from: nzminer on June 09, 2016, 06:53:28 PM

Quote from: SLievensDRKSLK on June 09, 2016, 06:49:36 PM

I think your taking into account all the money that Arteleis has spent on Silkcoin in total and not what he has paid me. It simply sounds like you have your wires crossed. Yes he has spent a lot of money, taken loans out to fund stuff, but this was before I was on the scene.

Thats right, this was a good couple of years ago now.

In fact, next week is almost exactly 2 years to the day that the devs abandoned the project.

We have come along a good way now and i hope that Trak4UBitl can see this and grab some SILK while its still cheap! Grin

I would love to man. But all this lying has to end.

So do you have several sources pointing at one person saying that one person lied??? Or are you going off what one person told you?

Dude please. Grab a coffee and reread my posts. Am I defending or is the opposite. Seriously.

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Quote from: drizzle2405 on June 09, 2016, 06:55:08 PM

Ok so... Looks like there will never be any private talks to settle this back and forth dispute... So if you have worked on Silkcoin in the past or have had encounters with Arteleis, please step forward in the forum and let your opinion be noticed so the dispute with Trak can be settled.

There are always two sides to a story and then there is the truth. Feel free to speak out and let your voice be heard. Majority will always indicate what really happened and what is really going on.

Spencer, his goal is to piss you off, so don't even bother with cursing him back.

Let's hear from everyone.... Get it all out in the open so this can be ended.

Did Arteleis lead Trak on? Was it malicious or a matter of not being in the loop?

Trak you got another user account or is this a trolling account? Were you in this since the beginning when Arteleis was involved or did you recently get in?

Trak you said you are a fund manager... You said you sold out... So wtf is the point going on and on and on... Are you in this? Are you out?

Ahh a refreshing leader to take the podium.

This is my only account. I tried posting in other threads but they were too busy developing to listen to me.

Yeh I sold everything. So what's the point? Principle. Eye for an eye.

Basic interest now. Should I pay another developer to develop Silkcoin? These guys have gave up and killing the chain. I don't want the chain killed. I don't want a forced exchange. I don't want a corporation. I want my fucking silkcoin back.

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Quote from: traK4Ubitl on June 09, 2016, 07:01:58 PM

Quote from: nzminer on June 09, 2016, 06:53:28 PM

Quote from: SLievensDRKSLK on June 09, 2016, 06:49:36 PM

I think your taking into account all the money that Arteleis has spent on Silkcoin in total and not what he has paid me. It simply sounds like you have your wires crossed. Yes he has spent a lot of money, taken loans out to fund stuff, but this was before I was on the scene.

Thats right, this was a good couple of years ago now.

In fact, next week is almost exactly 2 years to the day that the devs abandoned the project.

We have come along a good way now and i hope that Trak4UBitl can see this and grab some SILK while its still cheap! Grin

I would love to man. But all this lying has to end.

So do you have several sources pointing at one person saying that one person lied??? Or are you going off what one person told you?

Honestly if we are going to go on and on about shit, bring in other people to prove you are right, let's hear it from other sources... Evidence counts.

I'm not siding with anyone I'm trying to end this shit.

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Quote from: nzminer on June 09, 2016, 06:53:28 PM

Quote from: SLievensDRKSLK on June 09, 2016, 06:49:36 PM

I think your taking into account all the money that Arteleis has spent on Silkcoin in total and not what he has paid me. It simply sounds like you have your wires crossed. Yes he has spent a lot of money, taken loans out to fund stuff, but this was before I was on the scene.

Thats right, this was a good couple of years ago now.

In fact, next week is almost exactly 2 years to the day that the devs abandoned the project.

We have come along a good way now and i hope that Trak4UBitl can see this and grab some SILK while its still cheap! Grin

I would love to man. But all this lying has to end.

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