Oleksandr Usyk VS Daniel Dubois For The Undisputed heavyweight champion - page 2.

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Quote from: Jating on August 26, 2023, 11:14:57 PM

It's a bit controversial though, whether it was a low ball or not, that is the big question. And then he gave Usyk all the time in the world to recover from that. And it seems that Dubois exposed Usyk weaknesses, that is the body shot and clearly whenever Dubois clips his in the side he will always look at the referee as if to tell that it's another low ball which clearly it's not.

So I guess Tyson Fury will have to do his side and beat Francis N. next fight so that they can all set up a mega fight in Saudi Arabia as what Eddie Hearn has been telling us. Wilder vs AJ, and then Usyk vs Fury.

It's not a controversial blow it's a borderline punch based on this angle it's not a low blow and when you say below the belt it should be below the belt based on all the screenshots of this tweet it really is a legal punch, I remember one referee saying before the fight if it's on the belt it's legal and anything below it it's illegal,
Dubois has a claim for the title I don't think Usyk can get up on time if it is ruled a legal blow, obviously, the referee is partial to Usyk based on his action in the ring

https://twitter.com/DanCanobbio/status/1695558685546729545

But that is the point of contention here right? so if you says that it is not a low blow but the referee calls it like that then it's a controversial isn't it? And that's what probably the Dubois camp is claiming, it's not a low blow and so it could be considered a knockout and then Dubois can pounce Usyk that time. But the referee considered it a low blow and then allowed Usyk to recover from that. So yeah, it could be that Usyk is really set up to win here and maybe the referee is part of it and as what others have said, it's very corrupt practice by governing bodies in boxing.

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Quote from: Jating on August 26, 2023, 11:14:57 PM

It's a bit controversial though, whether it was a low ball or not, that is the big question. And then he gave Usyk all the time in the world to recover from that. And it seems that Dubois exposed Usyk weaknesses, that is the body shot and clearly whenever Dubois clips his in the side he will always look at the referee as if to tell that it's another low ball which clearly it's not.

So I guess Tyson Fury will have to do his side and beat Francis N. next fight so that they can all set up a mega fight in Saudi Arabia as what Eddie Hearn has been telling us. Wilder vs AJ, and then Usyk vs Fury.

It's not a controversial blow it's a borderline punch based on this angle it's not a low blow and when you say below the belt it should be below the belt based on all the screenshots of this tweet it really is a legal punch, I remember one referee saying before the fight if it's on the belt it's legal and anything below it it's illegal,
Dubois has a claim for the title I don't think Usyk can get up on time if it is ruled a legal blow, obviously, the referee is partial to Usyk based on his action in the ring

https://twitter.com/DanCanobbio/status/1695558685546729545

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It's a bit controversial though, whether it was a low ball or not, that is the big question. And then he gave Usyk all the time in the world to recover from that. And it seems that Dubois exposed Usyk weaknesses, that is the body shot and clearly whenever Dubois clips his in the side he will always look at the referee as if to tell that it's another low ball which clearly it's not.

So I guess Tyson Fury will have to do his side and beat Francis N. next fight so that they can all set up a mega fight in Saudi Arabia as what Eddie Hearn has been telling us. Wilder vs AJ, and then Usyk vs Fury.

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I won't go as far as saying everything's planned and that Usyk will have to be the winner whatever it takes, but it was certainly a robbery. This does not necessarily represent the entire sport of boxing or of the promoters involved, but I am a little bit shocked at the referee's incompetence despite him being on the job for a long time. He's been a referee for around 30 years and yet he couldn't tell whether that was a low blow or not. It was clearly not a low blow. Usyk mentioned about not hitting balls in boxing. That was very far from the balls; that was right on the belly.

It is unfair to just call for a rematch. This should rather be declared a no contest.

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I voted for Daniel Dubois after the fight by knockout as a protest against this crime in this very corrupt sport of boxing hehehe. In my own mind, Usyk is presently not the champion anymore. Similar to what I have been telling everyone before, much of these boxing events have become something similar to scamcoin ICOs where the issuer hypes and then dumps his tokens on his own community. This is a scam. Boxing promoters are taking your money by promoting these low quality fights and they have already paid the judges and the referee to make sure they know the winner.

It was manipulated.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on August 26, 2023, 06:58:06 PM

I don't think it was corrupt but it didn't look like a low blow to me. Looks like boxing might need VAR now. They should probably just rematch it. There will be enough time to fit it in before the end of the year as Fury is fighting Ngannou so makes sense to do that whilst they wait for Fury to be free which wont be until next year most likely.

There is really no excuses that can be made for this behavior from the referee. It wasn't just this knockdown that he got wrong. The entire fight he was very clearly on Usyk's side. For what reason do you need to break the action after almost every hard body shot Usyk takes and give him time to recover? The referee's actions were deliberate, it wasn't just a bad night or human error. A rematch can't really undo the damage done. Dubois took some unnecessary punishment and his already diminished confidence will decrease further.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 26, 2023, 06:27:23 PM

Usyk won the fight but I honestly can't give him much credit. That was one of the most blatantly corrupt performances by a referee I have ever seen. Any good body shot that Dubois landed was called low and this scumbag ref would break the fight so Usyk could recover. The shot that dropped Usyk was a legal blow on the belt line and should have ended the fight, instead Usyk gets 5 minutes to recover. This disgusting referee should be banned for life but will instead likely be given more high profile opportunities as it's obvious that protecting the media darling from Ukraine at all costs was his intended job and he did it perfectly.

I replayed it several times and it was indeed in the beltline so it's a legal blow but we cannot see it because of the camera angle, should have been a TKO it's a controversial fight for me, if this fight happened in other ground it should have been ended right there, its indeed bias referee we have there, but Dubois shows heart it's just the accumulation of those sharp jabs that broke Dubois determination.
I like to see Usyk winning but not this way, maybe if Dubois's team complaint there could be a rematch but we are all waiting for the belt unification between Usyk and Fury and hopefully that will happen after Fury's fight if he wins against Ngannou.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 26, 2023, 06:27:23 PM

Usyk won the fight but I honestly can't give him much credit. That was one of the most blatantly corrupt performances by a referee I have ever seen. Any good body shot that Dubois landed was called low and this scumbag ref would break the fight so Usyk could recover. The shot that dropped Usyk was a legal blow on the belt line and should have ended the fight, instead Usyk gets 5 minutes to recover. This disgusting referee should be banned for life but will instead likely be given more high profile opportunities as it's obvious that protecting the media darling from Ukraine at all costs was his intended job and he did it perfectly.

I don't think it was corrupt but it didn't look like a low blow to me. Looks like boxing might need VAR now. They should probably just rematch it. There will be enough time to fit it in before the end of the year as Fury is fighting Ngannou so makes sense to do that whilst they wait for Fury to be free which wont be until next year most likely.

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Quote from: Balmain on August 26, 2023, 05:11:34 PM

Everyone is waiting for the Fury vs Usyk match,

This will be one of the greatest fights ever, two top fighters in the ring will make the decision of who will win the fight tougher to decide. I am with Fury in this fight knowing that he is a great fighter who can rise up to any occasion. This is fight that has been talked about for very long time and is expected to be very entertaining to every lover of boxing. If I will bet in this game, I will bet on Fury to win, because of the level of believe I have for him. Usyk is a great fighter, but like I said, I am with Usyk in this fight.

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Usyk won the fight but I honestly can't give him much credit. That was one of the most blatantly corrupt performances by a referee I have ever seen. Any good body shot that Dubois landed was called low and this scumbag ref would break the fight so Usyk could recover. The shot that dropped Usyk was a legal blow on the belt line and should have ended the fight, instead Usyk gets 5 minutes to recover. This disgusting referee should be banned for life but will instead likely be given more high profile opportunities as it's obvious that protecting the media darling from Ukraine at all costs was his intended job and he did it perfectly.

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Quote from: Balmain on August 26, 2023, 05:11:34 PM

Everyone is waiting for the Fury vs Usyk match, so normally there hasn't been much interest in this match. Wasn't this match arranged or they just met face to face. They said they would arrange it after Tyson Fury, Dereck Chisora match The Fury-Usyk match, which will be a show scheduled for 2024, are both the best in heavyweight. They both have different abilities as heavyweights, it is very curious what kind of duel it will be. Both are much faster for their weight especially Usyk is not like a typical heavyweight but heavyweight in strength and speed.

usyk has the advantage over dubois, so more then likely he will emerge victorious on this one. and fury would be next. so a lot are hoping that usyk will come out as a winner on this fight. he is heavily favourite on this match over dubois. if nothing else, dubois can get a good exposure on this fight.

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Everyone is waiting for the Fury vs Usyk match, so normally there hasn't been much interest in this match. Wasn't this match arranged or they just met face to face. They said they would arrange it after Tyson Fury, Dereck Chisora match The Fury-Usyk match, which will be a show scheduled for 2024, are both the best in heavyweight. They both have different abilities as heavyweights, it is very curious what kind of duel it will be. Both are much faster for their weight especially Usyk is not like a typical heavyweight but heavyweight in strength and speed.

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Getting close to the main event now, Usyk is going to dominate. I think Usyk to knock Dubois out in the first 5 rounds. I just don’t see Usyk losing this fight, he’s not a typical heavyweight but he’s just too good.

What we really want to see though is Fury vs Usyk. Hopefully Usyk does his part of what’s required and finishes the job here tonight so we are one step closer to Fury vs Usyk.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 25, 2023, 08:00:12 AM

While many think that this fight has no sense and Usyk victory is not a matter of question, for Dubois, even if he looses, that is a huge step in heavyweight boxing division. He hasnt faced opponent of such level before. For him it is a huge risk and a huge challenge. Even in case of a lose, he gains experience and sing his name in a boxing history. For many boxing fans, he was a no-name. Even if he looses, people will start to recognize him.

That's one of the perks Dubois can get from this fight even if he loses this one.
Usyk is a heavy favorite and if you happen to bet on Dubois for possible upset, you can get about 7.4x of your money.
That is, if Dubois will have a surprise move that can knock out Usyk. Otherwise, Usyk has upper-hand on this match.
But few hours and we will see the action on this one. We may even see what's happening on its early rounds.
This will be a good one to watch out though. There are so many belts on the line.

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Quote from: coin-investor on August 26, 2023, 09:37:43 AM

Here are the official weigh-in and final face-off of Usyk and Dubois both fighters did not give more information about their strategy for the fight both are confident that they are going to win the match, Dubois should be motivated more he is in a lion's den come fight now, the crowd will be cheering for Usyk, we are all expecting a great and action-packed fight.

Usyk is the heavy favorite to win the fight, Dubois's only chance is the early rounds As the fight progresses Usyk's skill and experience will play a big factor. he has a long experience in championship fights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ku0kNOV34E

Or he got lucky and knockout Usyk in the early to middle rounds. But if this goes to distance, the experience of Usyk will come into play and maybe we will see Dubois getting tired from running around.

Although the fight might be in neutral grounds for Usyk, but I do agree that he has the crowd behind him. He mostly fought in Poland so he has a fan based on that country. And besides there are a lot of Ukrainians in that country if I'm not mistaken after the war has broke out, for asylum and obviously they don't want to get out and be safe.

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Here are the official weigh-in and final face-off of Usyk and Dubois both fighters did not give more information about their strategy for the fight both are confident that they are going to win the match, Dubois should be motivated more he is in a lion's den come fight now, the crowd will be cheering for Usyk, we are all expecting a great and action-packed fight.

Usyk is the heavy favorite to win the fight, Dubois's only chance is the early rounds As the fight progresses Usyk's skill and experience will play a big factor. he has a long experience in championship fights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ku0kNOV34E

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Quote from: coin-investor on August 24, 2023, 08:29:36 AM

It's more on logic if Usyk beats Joshua who is also a hard puncher with a good also a good knockout percentage then they figure that Usyk can withstand Dubois' power, and of course, it helps that the fight will be held in Poland where there are many Ukrainian migrated, so it Usyk is fighting in his hometown and Dubois has no prior experience where he fought on enemy territories.

Dubois is facing a big challenge, I hope Dubois's leg is okay now he suffered three knockdowns because of his leg cramps in round one but managed to comeback to knock out Lerena

Here's a video of that fight :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ7MCCgf8NA

Usyk was the hard puncher as compared to the Joshua.The punching speed of Usyk was more compared to the Joshua in a recent days,this game mostly favor the Usyk will be the opinion of most of the boxing community fans here.Since Usyk was hard puncher,the possibility was more to the win by the KO.Dubois had lost his three match with the KO made him very week now and mostly with less leg power.The leg also plays huge role in the boxing,the leg work itself defined the winner of that match.This is not the equal match to the Dubois now.

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Ok, I see some feed on my Twitter account, so everything is set between the two, both makes the HW but obviously Dubois is the heavier of the two.
Hoping for a Usyk win here, so that he can settle and fight Tyson Fury next for the undisputed belt. But let's see if the younger Daniel Dubois can upset Usyk and derail all that plan for a Saudi fight for Usyk vs Fury.
Much younger and has the power too, I haven't settled my bet yet between, but let's see.

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While many think that this fight has no sense and Usyk victory is not a matter of question, for Dubois, even if he looses, that is a huge step in heavyweight boxing division. He hasnt faced opponent of such level before. For him it is a huge risk and a huge challenge. Even in case of a lose, he gains experience and sing his name in a boxing history. For many boxing fans, he was a no-name. Even if he looses, people will start to recognize him.

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I'm still confused about the odds. I know that Usyk is a great boxer, but seeing that Dubois is still very young and strong, has solid punching power, I don't understand why his odds is at 6.60. This odds is loudly and clearly saying he almost doesn't have a chance against Usyk.

I'm a little bit attracted to risk a little amount to Dubois if only because of the very high odds. But he's been inactive for almost a year. This could be a big factor knowing that he'll be facing no less than Usyk right away for his comeback fight.

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