Topic: One in five Americans: “Religious institutions Should Be Forced to Perform SSM" - page 4. (Read 3204 times)

As irrelevant and almost as cruel as Christianity(Judaism takes the take for being the "cruelest" as it's entirely OT). The thing that the media likes to use to differentiate Christianity from Islam and put Islam in the bad spotlight, is the strict adherence some "muslims" take to the koran, think isis) and the somewhat redeeming yet contradictory New Testament portion of the bible that Christians listen to, yet seemingly ignore the Old Testament entirely, except when they want to discriminate against homosexuals of course.

Just curious, what's your take on Islam?

Then that shows the invalidity of the bible. Such Christians do not truly believe in their own holy book.

Except that christ never rejected the Old Testament's rules, so my point is valid. Stop making up your own version of the bible, because it's wrong.

John 10:30 - I and the Father are one

That's my point, but it certainly wasn't your point. Your point was to say Christians follow the OT rules, when they obviously are not supposed to and shouldn't.

I don't really care either way, but Christians probably should have just stuck with the New part, which are the teachings of Christ according to select apostles.

That's the point. One section allows for extreme cruelty, the other is about peace. Either "god" in the bible has multiple personality disorder or it's a book full of contradictory bullshit.

Old Testament and New Testament are starkly different in the rules department.

So far the few people on this forum who have said Christianity is evil have come back up with that. You guys seem to ignore what Christianity is.

Christianity is built on Jesus Christ dying for our sins, all sins are equally bad, in that they would lead to damnation. But they are all equally forgivable through the love of Jesus Christ when he died on the cross, now all we have to do is believe in Him, forgive others, and ask for forgiveness for our sins, and then we are blameless. (til we sin again as everyone does)

Some of the old traditions in the OT are not practiced anymore, because they sacrificed animals for their sin, and Jesus is now the ultimate sacrifice for our sin, so we don't need to do those things anymore.

He also brought new commandments, and they are:

"Matthew 22:37-40, "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."

It is as simple as that! If everybody loved the Lord and each other, like Christ loved us, there would be no sin in the world! There would be no murder, no hate, no bitterness, no adultery, no stealing nor any other kind of sin, if we only loved the Lord with all our heart and our neighbor as our own self!" (link)

As an aside, it is my first language.

I wasn't advocating any of the acts of any religion. I was just saying that if there happened to be a religion that has a dogma that hurts no one - leave them alone. If they do, then it's not cool when practitioners act on it.

I'm no theologian, but you can find text that advocates harm to others out of intolerance in most religious texts. Not all, but most I'd venture.

I just like how the media goes the route of "Catholic priests molest children - Catholicism is bad". On the other hand, don't judge Muslims based on the behavior of "a few extremists".

Maybe English isn't your first language, but here you clearly said they don't: "Religions make their own rules as long as they don't hurt others"

Really? So why don't Christians kill adulterers, or stone to death priests that drink wine in church, or stone to death prostitutes and etc?

All of that is found in the bible, so priests sticking to one thing(Not wanting to marry gay couples), but not going ahead and killing adulterers shows just how selective they are. They only listen to some of the things in the bible, not all. Pathetic. This is why religion will inevitably "end". Interesting benevolent god you have there who kills the humans it supposedly loves over menial acts.

Reading comprehension my friend. I didn't say they do or don't; I only said they have the right if they don't. Ya know, like knocking down tall buildings, molesting children, etc. If those "rules" are a part of the relion's dogma, then no, they need to be removed.

in·tol·er·ance
ˌinˈtäl(ə)rəns/
noun
noun: intolerance; plural noun: intolerances

    unwillingness to accept views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own.


Christians should accept other views, beliefs, or behavior other than their own. Yup! That's what Jesus taught. You are supposed treat others with the same respect you'd like for yourself, and love one another as you would yourself.

Christians should not act in sin, and the priest marrying a homosexual couple would be sinning. That's not intolerance. Christians are supposed to be full of tolerance, but not to sin themselves.

"We hate sin by recognizing it for what it is, refusing to take part in it, and condemning it as contrary to God's nature. Sin is to be hated, not excused or taken lightly. We love sinners by showing them respect (1 Peter 2:17), praying for them (1 Timothy 2:1), and witnessing to them of Christ. It is a true act of love to treat someone with respect and kindness even though you do not approve of his or her lifestyle or sinful choices." (link)

That's a joke, correct...? Many religious views and "rules" hurt others. I advise you go look into the various discrimintory and hateful laws found throughout the bible, koran, and torah. Also, it's because Christianity is the biggest reliigon out there so far, largely because most of it's followers had it forced on them. EX: Spain and other Christian countries had Inquisitions, where their residents were forced to turn into Christians, leave the country, or die.

Religions make their own rules as long as they don't hurt others, whether you think they're a "cancer" or not. I find it interesting though that Christianity is the religion Americans "pick on" the most often.

The priest has no right to be intolerant. Religious views that imposes intolerance should never be adhered to, absolutely disgusting, especially since over 50% of the worlds population is not heterosexual(Blame religion and denial for this not being common knowledge).

What the world needs is freedom from religion. Religion has no right to impose any sort of restrictions on what one can and cannot do.

The day the majority of people on Earth no longer irrationally believe in god(s) is the day we as a species truly propel forward.

It does not diminish homosexuals right, since they can get married.


That diminishes the priest's right to religion.

At least this wouldn't violate anyone's rights.