Topic: One in five Americans: “Religious institutions Should Be Forced to Perform SSM" - page 5. (Read 3204 times)
July 03, 2015, 06:27:36 PM
The more people churches exclude the better, gay, black, divorced, single moms, whatever, I say let them exclude as many people as they want, eventually churches will be empty, sadly not fast enough...
July 03, 2015, 06:21:32 PM
What's so shocking? Most of roman catholic priests are gay 
If two people of consenting age decide to have their union sanctified, because they share the same sex, it does not diminish their right to do so any less than a hetrosexual couple. The priest is there to do so, in the same way as a architect, doctor, lawyer ....... should provide professional support, irrespective of their clients sexual orientation. Next it will be claimed as shocking that a white priest should marry a black couple. Both attitudes are grounded in bigotry
If two people of consenting age decide to have their union sanctified, because they share the same sex, it does not diminish their right to do so any less than a hetrosexual couple. The priest is there to do so, in the same way as a architect, doctor, lawyer ....... should provide professional support, irrespective of their clients sexual orientation. Next it will be claimed as shocking that a white priest should marry a black couple. Both attitudes are grounded in bigotry
July 03, 2015, 05:53:15 PM
Most present day churches are organized under the IRS 501(c)(3) tax exempt corporation status. However, when you look at the wording in 501(c)(3), you find that the churches are first and foremost other kinds of institutions than churches. They may be organized as churches under whatever kind of corporate institution they are organized. But they are not really churches, legally.
The above means that their leaders, their ministers, their priests, their pastors, must obey any ruling that comes down for organizations that are not churches.
A few churches are organized first as churches. They fall under IRS 508(c)(1)(A) exception from taxes, not exemption. They are a church, first, rather than some other kind of corporation first, and then a church under that corporation. They don't have anything to do with 501(c)(3) corporate status.
As a church first, these true church organizations are within the protection of the 1st Amendment. Their people are not required to obey laws that come down for corporations or 501(c)(3) corporatations.
The above means that their leaders, their ministers, their priests, their pastors, must obey any ruling that comes down for organizations that are not churches.
A few churches are organized first as churches. They fall under IRS 508(c)(1)(A) exception from taxes, not exemption. They are a church, first, rather than some other kind of corporation first, and then a church under that corporation. They don't have anything to do with 501(c)(3) corporate status.
As a church first, these true church organizations are within the protection of the 1st Amendment. Their people are not required to obey laws that come down for corporations or 501(c)(3) corporatations.
July 03, 2015, 10:44:55 AM
Gay couples can always get married by their favorite imam...
Although only 26% supports this measure now, I am sure that the figure will rise in the future, as more and more brainwashing is unleashed upon the younger population. Ultimately, the SSM will be made mandatory for every religious institution. Just like the case in the UK, where a baker was fined for refusing to serve to the sodomites, in future, the bishops, rabbis, imams, and monks will be sent to jail for refusing to permit SSM.
When was the last time you've read anything about the pink mafia defending the rights of their brothers and sisters and in between being butchered in sharia law based societies?
Never. It is kryptonite to them. SSM in a mosque? I can see the pink mafia proclaiming it is time to respect some faiths, as an exceptional gesture or something...
July 03, 2015, 10:22:29 AM
Gay couples can always get married by their favorite imam...
Although only 26% supports this measure now, I am sure that the figure will rise in the future, as more and more brainwashing is unleashed upon the younger population. Ultimately, the SSM will be made mandatory for every religious institution. Just like the case in the UK, where a baker was fined for refusing to serve to the sodomites, in future, the bishops, rabbis, imams, and monks will be sent to jail for refusing to permit SSM.
July 03, 2015, 10:12:49 AM
I find it disturbing the people are ok with the idea of forcing someone to go against their religion in the name of the law. Especially when the country was supposed to be a place where everyone could practice their various religions concurrently so long as they don't harm another.
One day, if/when Christian ignorance stops hurting and killing others, maybe America will stop cutting away Christianity like a fucking cancer. Don't you get it? It's compassion that's killing Christianity in this country. Compassion + Internet = Death for ignorance, superstition, perhaps even hatred and violence after enough generations.
Christianity isn't hurting people (and there's no reason why it should). People hurt people on individual cases.
And this has nothing to do with the forcing of someone to go against their religion. It does NOT hurt a homosexual couple if they can't get married by a priest. No one should ever be forced to go against their religion.
In a time where people are purporting to be so tolerant, it's funny that people continually want to strip others of their rights.
Gay couples can always get married by their favorite imam...
July 03, 2015, 09:58:59 AM
I find it disturbing the people are ok with the idea of forcing someone to go against their religion in the name of the law. Especially when the country was supposed to be a place where everyone could practice their various religions concurrently so long as they don't harm another.
One day, if/when Christian ignorance stops hurting and killing others, maybe America will stop cutting away Christianity like a fucking cancer. Don't you get it? It's compassion that's killing Christianity in this country. Compassion + Internet = Death for ignorance, superstition, perhaps even hatred and violence after enough generations.
Christianity isn't hurting people (and there's no reason why it should). People hurt people on individual cases.
And this has nothing to do with the forcing of someone to go against their religion. It does NOT hurt a homosexual couple if they can't get married by a priest. No one should ever be forced to go against their religion.
In a time where people are purporting to be so tolerant, it's funny that people continually want to strip others of their rights.
July 03, 2015, 09:51:00 AM
I find it disturbing the people are ok with the idea of forcing someone to go against their religion in the name of the law. Especially when the country was supposed to be a place where everyone could practice their various religions concurrently so long as they don't harm another.
One day, if/when Christian ignorance stops hurting and killing others, maybe America will stop cutting away Christianity like a fucking cancer. Don't you get it? It's compassion that's killing Christianity in this country. Compassion + Internet = Death for ignorance, superstition, perhaps even hatred and violence after enough generations.
July 01, 2015, 10:39:44 PM
How idiotic. What happened to the US?
The internet happened.http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/12/upshot/big-drop-in-share-of-americans-calling-themselves-christian.html?_r=0
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/16/religion_may_not_survive_the_internet/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/13/religion-america-decline-low-no-affiliation-report_n_2867626.html
I find it disturbing the people are ok with the idea of forcing someone to go against their religion in the name of the law. Especially when the country was supposed to be a place where everyone could practice their various religions concurrently so long as they don't harm another.
And don't give me crap about a priest not marrying a homosexual couple as harming them, when they can perfectly well get married without a church.
July 01, 2015, 10:26:09 PM
How idiotic. What happened to the US?
The internet happened.http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/12/upshot/big-drop-in-share-of-americans-calling-themselves-christian.html?_r=0
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/16/religion_may_not_survive_the_internet/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/13/religion-america-decline-low-no-affiliation-report_n_2867626.html
July 01, 2015, 07:46:57 PM
How idiotic. What happened to the US? I thought it stood for freedom of religion.....
July 01, 2015, 07:37:49 PM
How idiotic. What happened to the US? I thought it stood for freedom of religion.....
July 01, 2015, 07:31:59 PM
The Shocking Proportion of Americans Who Believe That ‘Religious Institutions or Clergy’ Should Be Forced to Perform Gay Weddings
A new survey conducted in the wake of the Supreme Court’s legalization of same-sex marriage last Friday found that 19 percent — or one in five Americans — believe that “religious institutions or clergy should be required to perform same-sex marriages.”
More specifically, 26 percent of Americans under the age of 40 believe that churches and clergy should be forced to preside over gay nuptials.
The survey, conducted by the Barna Group, a polling firm that studies religion, also found that 94 percent of evangelicals oppose legalization of same-sex marriage, with only 2 percent expressing support for the measure. Meanwhile, 86 percent believe that the decision will have a negative impact on American society, with just 10 percent saying that they believe offering marriage rights is morally acceptable.
Sixty-six percent of practicing Christians overall believe that the Supreme Court erred in its decision. More broadly, 49 percent of Americans agree with the decision, with 43 percent expressing disagreement.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/07/01/the-shocking-proportion-of-americans-who-believe-that-religious-institutions-or-clergy-should-be-forced-to-perform-gay-weddings/
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