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Quote from: Lucius on January 26, 2022, 11:53:29 AM

If you look at some sci-fi series like Star Trek, there's a united nation on Earth

maybe all humans on this earth should have the same goal the same enemy to ignore our personal interests

Then it wouldn’t be called science fiction Wink

It would be really strange that human attitudes can change in the sense that people should not be enemies to each other - but the problem is not ordinary people who just want to live normally, but those who have the power to control all these people. Is the average Russian eager for war with Ukraine or is the average American interested in imposing sanctions on China or Iran? Of course, this is never the case - corrupt politicians constantly want to keep nations in some sort of quarrel so that they can still enjoy the power that comes from all the chaos they produce.

Your point of view has made it clear that we all don't want conflict who end up killing each other. That's why our politicians & leaders don't have as much power as kings in our history book. Actually if you compare in the past, our world is more peacefull than before. Thanks to the internet & technology so we can connect each other and can read the world news

even though we can't be one nation, we already have the United Nations Cheesy

there will never be a single currency in this world as cryptocurrency is not just bitcoin

Do you know why the world is more peaceful now? In the past, all the power was consolidated to the king and the king can do anything they wants to. But now in a democratic country, you can not do that so easily. Also, nuclear power gives some balance to the world power and that is why North Korea can threaten the USA but fear to do any military conflict. In the past biggest and more trained army win the battle but now one single nuclear strike could turn the tide no matter what's your army size is. The nuclear weapon is the most dangerous weapon in the human's arsenal and this is the reason we haven't seen any world war till now. World leaders understand mind your own business is good for everybody.

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Quote from: Lucius on January 27, 2022, 11:51:32 AM

Quote from: redwine49 on January 27, 2022, 11:30:07 AM

Quote from: Lucius on January 26, 2022, 11:53:29 AM

If you look at some sci-fi series like Star Trek, there's a united nation on Earth

maybe all humans on this earth should have the same goal the same enemy to ignore our personal interests

Then it wouldn’t be called science fiction Wink

It would be really strange that human attitudes can change in the sense that people should not be enemies to each other - but the problem is not ordinary people who just want to live normally, but those who have the power to control all these people. Is the average Russian eager for war with Ukraine or is the average American interested in imposing sanctions on China or Iran? Of course, this is never the case - corrupt politicians constantly want to keep nations in some sort of quarrel so that they can still enjoy the power that comes from all the chaos they produce.

Your point of view has made it clear that we all don't want conflict who end up killing each other. That's why our politicians & leaders don't have as much power as kings in our history book. Actually if you compare in the past, our world is more peacefull than before. Thanks to the internet & technology so we can connect each other and can read the world news

even though we can't be one nation, we already have the United Nations Cheesy

there will never be a single currency in this world as cryptocurrency is not just bitcoin

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From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century. Our greediness and eagerness for more power make us intelligent animals. Humans are capable of their own destruction. But what if those never happen? what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?

I do think that this is possible and hope humanity can reach to have only one country with one currency. This would also mean to have only one government that takes care of all the people in the world. As long as that one country is based upon freedom and equality it should be the goal. The biggest hurdle to reach that a world is religion in my opinion. Religions are different all around the world, people pray differently and have different customs, and every religious person says that his god is the real one. Too many wars have been fought in the name of God. We need equality for the world to work together. The more technology advances the less religious people there will be. In a few hundred years we could have only one country on earth with one currency.

With all the conflicts around the globe right now? may it be political, or religion I doubt that we will have hope on humanity to reach an agreement and have one country with one currency. It will take a great deal on the leaders around the world to unite and form this one. Even in the UN and other governing bodies, like G7 there is already conflict and back stabbing, so this is not a viable proposal in my opinion.

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Quote from: laredo7mm on January 26, 2022, 11:14:12 AM

From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century. Our greediness and eagerness for more power make us intelligent animals. Humans are capable of their own destruction. But what if those never happen? what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?

I do think that this is possible and hope humanity can reach to have only one country with one currency. This would also mean to have only one government that takes care of all the people in the world. As long as that one country is based upon freedom and equality it should be the goal. The biggest hurdle to reach that a world is religion in my opinion. Religions are different all around the world, people pray differently and have different customs, and every religious person says that his god is the real one. Too many wars have been fought in the name of God. We need equality for the world to work together. The more technology advances the less religious people there will be. In a few hundred years we could have only one country on earth with one currency.

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Quote from: laredo7mm on January 26, 2022, 11:14:12 AM

From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century. Our greediness and eagerness for more power make us intelligent animals. Humans are capable of their own destruction. But what if those never happen? what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?

We do not need to become one country and have one currency before we can start working towards having a better world and invest in resource development. We can have one everything and the world would still continue to be a very weird place and even get worse.

So, it’s not really about having one currency and one country. We can do better even as we are right now. Our problem is pride and lack of unity, and greediness. Maybe if our leaders can come together for the good of humanity and without even forming a one government, they can start working towards a better world by collaborating with each other, it’s possible.

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We have a first step in that direction: the Eurozone. Although there are many problems, it has lasted more than 20 years already. A monetary union that was not imposed by wars but by agreements.

It is just an attempt to do something similar to the US (United European States), but with the difference that this is about different nations in every respect (linguistic, economic, political, cultural ...), some of which refuse to use the Euro as a common currency (Czech Republic, Denmark, Hungary, Poland, Sweden). For me personally, it is a bad monetary union in which the ECB has too many control mechanisms, and all eurozone members obey its decisions.

The UK's decision to never join the eurozone proved to be a positive example, not only in terms of Brexit - but also in the fact that the UK began implementing its own economic recovery measures after 2008, and eurozone members did not do so until 2015. I have always been for individual responsibility and decisions, but that is still just my opinion.

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I do not think that can happen because humans will not explore other places, giving them more knowledge to create or invent many things. Humans will stay in one place, trying to survive and create things from whatever they can get from that place. Sooner or later, when the resources are gone, they will move to the other place and not try to go to other places.

If you think we will become like what you saw in Star Trek or something similar to that movie, I do not think it will happen. Maybe if there is a big crash to the earth and force many humans to die and only have some colony, that can have one currency because they are united in one place.

And now, we are separated from many places, make us want to have one thing that will be different from the other such as currency, language, geography, culture, or other and that will show our identity to the other.

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Quote from: laredo7mm on January 26, 2022, 11:14:12 AM

From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century. Our greediness and eagerness for more power make us intelligent animals. Humans are capable of their own destruction. But what if those never happen? what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?

Sad to say there is no perfect world, and since time immemorial, there is conflicts in human history. So I doubt that there will be singularity in the world, and that one nation, one currency wouldn't happen unless there is some high being intervention (but this is from the realm of imagination). So to answer your questions, NO, it is not possible, and obviously there will be no benefits whatsoever.

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The problem with currency is inequality of prices and salaries. If the world has one currency, then it will turn that in one country you must spend 10 "unite currency" to buy a bottle of water, but in the other it will cost 0.0001 "unite currency". It wont be a problem with banknotes, but what kind of coins then there must be? from 0.0001 to 0.5? People would carry bags of coins to exchange it to one banknote. In one nation the prices and salaries must be also identical for every country. But why should people then work for less, while others will work for a bigger salary. It is impossible to balance on price in every country and set everything unified.

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Quote from: laredo7mm on January 26, 2022, 11:14:12 AM

From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century.

Basically, it is done based on the law or regulation in the country. Officially, there must be one currency that is used. But commonly, there are also some accepted as payment methods in certain platforms or merchants. But the basic accumulation is still the one fiat that is regulated in the country based on the law. We know that every time related to the law will be very complex. One currency may be very complex to manage and control, how it will be more than one officially used together. It may be more and more difficult.
but at elast, as long as the country also doesn't limit the use of some digital money, it is okay enough.

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Quote from: romero121 on January 27, 2022, 04:49:06 PM

One nation one currency is always an imaginary thought. From the ancient days it is possible to see boundaries, different cultures, different languages and different civilization. This means people form a community and have their way of living which differs from other communities on different parts of the world. The same is being followed till date and people are much adopted to it rather than one nation one currency which in reality isn't a possible one.

That’s right. When people talk about one world and one currency I don’t believe it. If it was possible that it was going to happen, then it would have happened in the past and not in today’s world where a lot of things changed. Even the amount of racism and tribalism in today’s world wouldn’t allow such thing to happen, there would be too much of favouritism of leaders over their own tribe and other tribes would feel sidelined and would start fighting for leadership and before you know it, the unity has been broken. And having such would bring up the question of which tribe should lead, and lead to disagreement.

And moreover, countries fought to gain independence, forming a one government and one world would make all that fight for independence to be meaningless.

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Quote from: laredo7mm on January 26, 2022, 11:14:12 AM

From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century. Our greediness and eagerness for more power make us intelligent animals. Humans are capable of their own destruction. But what if those never happen? what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?

The firs boundary I think is our gender. God created the humans differently, there are male and female. Both genders needs privacy. Fast forward, after that, there are now wars because some are power hungry and want to dominate this x country to make it their own. Till now this still happens, there are still wars but not as heavy as before.

It will be nice if all countries unite and create no more boundaries and will this be more possible because of bitcoin? Because bitcoin is not created by a specific country right? Anyone can use it. We do not need different fiats anymore but bitcoin will be enough for all of us. I think living that way is more fun and peaceful is not it?

For us bitcoins enthusiasts, it will be our advantage as we have more bitcoin than those who never have entered the crypto market. But if we are taking the sides of regular people who only know fiat, and the government that has never supported it, having bitcoin as one currency will always be a fantasy and very unrealistic. As long as fiat exists, there can never a place for bitcoin as a nation's single currency.

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Quote from: romero121 on January 27, 2022, 04:49:06 PM

One nation one currency is always an imaginary thought. From the ancient days it is possible to see boundaries, different cultures, different languages and different civilization.

We have a first step in that direction: the Eurozone. Although there are many problems, it has lasted more than 20 years already. A monetary union that was not imposed by wars but by agreements.

Globally, I don't see it either, like the rest who have commented. Maybe in a long time, but if it comes to be done, there would be small previous steps as has been done in the EU, but with some countries joining and sharing currency, before reaching the utopia of a single country and a single global currency, which hopefully will be the Bitcoin.

Just thinking about it sounds too utopian to me.

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Quote from: laredo7mm on January 26, 2022, 11:14:12 AM

From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century. Our greediness and eagerness for more power make us intelligent animals. Humans are capable of their own destruction. But what if those never happen? what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?

The firs boundary I think is our gender. God created the humans differently, there are male and female. Both genders needs privacy. Fast forward, after that, there are now wars because some are power hungry and want to dominate this x country to make it their own. Till now this still happens, there are still wars but not as heavy as before.

It will be nice if all countries unite and create no more boundaries and will this be more possible because of bitcoin? Because bitcoin is not created by a specific country right? Anyone can use it. We do not need different fiats anymore but bitcoin will be enough for all of us. I think living that way is more fun and peaceful is not it?

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Quote from: bakasabo on January 27, 2022, 07:14:46 AM

Too many world leaders in the world - that makes it impossible to turn whole world into a one nation. I dont think that any world leader would voluntarily free his position. Too many individuals in the world, making it impossible for to unite nations. People would never agree on one country name, laws and etc. One nation is possible only in movies and books.

With one currency it is easier, but still hard to achieve. We have US dollar accepted in 99.9% of countries, because people believe in the strength of US economy, but people will hardly make it one single currency in their country. There always will be an alternative.

LOL, the OP is probably daydreaming and imagining this while sitting with his popcorn. I'm not really sure what he wants to ask despite the possibility of having one currency for the whole world as the equivalent. This is something that is completely impossible now, in the future even hundreds of years after now.

USD is also not a legal currency in my country as a legal tender and maybe the rules are the same in other countries that have their own currency. As with bitcoin, we still need to convert it to fiat (local currency) before we spend it. To achieve one currency that has the same value then bitcoin may have been an alternative at this time.

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One nation one currency is always an imaginary thought. From the ancient days it is possible to see boundaries, different cultures, different languages and different civilization. This means people form a community and have their way of living which differs from other communities on different parts of the world. The same is being followed till date and people are much adopted to it rather than one nation one currency which in reality isn't a possible one.

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Quote from: laredo7mm on January 26, 2022, 11:14:12 AM

From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century. Our greediness and eagerness for more power make us intelligent animals. Humans are capable of their own destruction. But what if those never happen? what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?

Rather than one nation one currency, the world is actually becoming blurry on regards to what is a nation, what is a border, what degree of independence does each part of a country have and what are the rules that govern each territory. For example, you can argue that Germany and France are different states, however you can freely move people, goods and capital between them due to the EU treaty. Then you can argue there is no border between Aragon and Catalonia in Spain, however if you live in Catalonia your kids will not learn Spanish at school unless you specifically choose so. You can argue that UK is a estate, however there is a border in North Sea due to the Brexit treaty.... and so on.

What is a nation then?

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Quote from: laredo7mm on January 26, 2022, 11:14:12 AM

From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century. Our greediness and eagerness for more power make us intelligent animals. Humans are capable of their own destruction. But what if those never happen? what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?

Necessity is the mother of all discovery. Human won't be technologically superior if there wasn't any conflict between them. Because of was humans made such discovery that was not only help to win the war but also benefited them many ways too. Nuclear energy was discovered and used for destruction but now we are using it for energy. If you look at the history then you will see most of the technological advancement happens when the world seen war.

I am not saying war is good so that we would see more technological advancement but what I said is the reality..

I quite agree with what you say because what you say is true.
when there is no conflict and friction then everything will be monotonous and it is actually not good enough for human survival because there will be no competition, no power and plate life.
but indeed on the other hand there is a positive side and a negative side actually in this case because indeed in this case conflict also has a negative side which is quite detrimental for some people.

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Quote from: redwine49 on January 27, 2022, 11:30:07 AM

Quote from: Lucius on January 26, 2022, 11:53:29 AM

If you look at some sci-fi series like Star Trek, there's a united nation on Earth

maybe all humans on this earth should have the same goal the same enemy to ignore our personal interests

Then it wouldn’t be called science fiction Wink

It would be really strange that human attitudes can change in the sense that people should not be enemies to each other - but the problem is not ordinary people who just want to live normally, but those who have the power to control all these people. Is the average Russian eager for war with Ukraine or is the average American interested in imposing sanctions on China or Iran? Of course, this is never the case - corrupt politicians constantly want to keep nations in some sort of quarrel so that they can still enjoy the power that comes from all the chaos they produce.

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Quote from: laredo7mm on January 26, 2022, 11:14:12 AM

From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century. Our greediness and eagerness for more power make us intelligent animals. Humans are capable of their own destruction. But what if those never happen?

Historical speaking that is not possible. Nothing in our history explains there is only one unity on earth.
I don't know how long human lived on earth but in the history of our civilization, we only know about 6000 years. If we learn about our past, there will be many conflicts when some state wants to rule the world. Historical superpowers include the British Empire, Ancient Egypt, the Hittite Empire, the Achaemenid Empire, the Hellenistic Empire of Alexander the Great, the Roman Empire, the Sasanid Empire, the Maurya Empire, the Mughal Empire, the Russian Empire, the Tang Empire, the Umayyad Caliphate.

Quote from: Lucius on January 26, 2022, 11:53:29 AM

If you look at some sci-fi series like Star Trek, there's a united nation on Earth

maybe all humans on this earth should have the same goal the same enemy to ignore our personal interests

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