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January 27, 2022, 11:23:58 AM
#29
Too many world leaders in the world - that makes it impossible to turn whole world into a one nation. I dont think that any world leader would voluntarily free his position. Too many individuals in the world, making it impossible for to unite nations. People would never agree on one country name, laws and etc. One nation is possible only in movies and books.

With one currency it is easier, but still hard to achieve. We have US dollar accepted in 99.9% of countries, because people believe in the strength of US economy, but people will hardly make it one single currency in their country. There always will be an alternative.
In my opinion, it is impossible to create a peaceful world without division, creating a nation under the standard of the same currency will be difficult, because every human being has an ego that thinks himself is better than others, maybe by imposing one currency for one world, of course. maybe we will return to the colonial era as before, because only the superpowers like Russia and America would certainly have the will and considerable power if it was appropriate, and if these big countries could colonize all the countries in the world , of course they will enforce one type of currency, either usd or rubles, as was the case during the ancient Roman and Persian empires, in which the romans or persians would oblige all colonial countries to use the same type of currency made of gold and silver as dinars or dirhams.
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January 27, 2022, 11:21:52 AM
#28
It is good the OP understand human created boundaries between themselves in the beginning and this happened at the early stage of human creation so would they choose to develop one nation and one currency now?
From my understanding, a part of Bitcoin being a decentralized coin I believe its ability to unite the world is also one of the reasons why the government is against it.

What I think it possible in the future is the government creating their own CBDC.
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January 27, 2022, 10:03:58 AM
#27
The poster is a prophet.
When you examine what is happening in the world today, you will understand that every efforts is tilted towards unification, unity and harmony.
Countries are signing peace agreements and setting accords.
I read sometimes that West African countries want to unite and have a central strong currency.
There is high level of preaching against racism.
I so much believe these two general statements "Though nations and tongues may differ, but in Brotherhood we stand"
"To make the whole world one is a task to be done"
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January 27, 2022, 07:14:46 AM
#26
Too many world leaders in the world - that makes it impossible to turn whole world into a one nation. I dont think that any world leader would voluntarily free his position. Too many individuals in the world, making it impossible for to unite nations. People would never agree on one country name, laws and etc. One nation is possible only in movies and books.

With one currency it is easier, but still hard to achieve. We have US dollar accepted in 99.9% of countries, because people believe in the strength of US economy, but people will hardly make it one single currency in their country. There always will be an alternative.
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January 27, 2022, 06:49:32 AM
#25
From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century. Our greediness and eagerness for more power make us intelligent animals. Humans are capable of their own destruction. But what if those never happen? what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?

Necessity is the mother of all discovery. Human won't be technologically superior if there wasn't any conflict between them. Because of was humans made such discovery that was not only help to win the war but also benefited them many ways too. Nuclear energy was discovered and used for destruction but now we are using it for energy. If you look at the history then you will see most of the technological advancement happens when the world seen war.

I am not saying war is good so that we would see more technological advancement but what I said is the reality..

You have a valid point here. War encourages humans to push their limits and race against each other for invention. There are many technological achievements that have been gained because of war. Not all of them were meant to use in war but war creates the environment for speeding up technological improvements to serve a military purpose. Later these military improvements integrated into the civilian sector for other purposes too.
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January 27, 2022, 06:46:04 AM
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Okey, I agree with you that practically this is not possible but if that ever happens what will happen with our science and technology? Internal conflict over the century slowed down our technological advancement. If there was no conflict between different human races then the achievement of humans over science and technology could be more advanced. Maybe we could colonize other planets by now.

If you look at the last century there were two world wars that lasted a total of about 10 years, and a few more conflicts like the Vietnam and Korean Wars - but all this together with the consequences of those wars would not take us much further in science and technology from where we are today. Some might say that there would not have been such significant advances in space technology had it not been for German scientists working on various advanced technologies during World War II, and those same scientists were then recruited (or captured) by Americans and Russians, with the former snatched better prey.

If there were no conflicts in human history (over the past 5000 years) and if all nations worked together, the world would surely be a better place to live - but far from colonizing other planets, it is a very complex thing that will not happen for decades - in the sense of mass colonization of the Moon and Mars.



AFAIK they use credits and some form of transactional exchange in starfleet. I can't find the screenshot. But there is a scene in one of the trek TV series where there is a readout for "medical credits" in sickbay.

Mention of it is omitted. Its a thing where no one is certain exactly how money or the economy works in star trek so its never shown.

It is true that there are credits for replicators or for the use of holodecks, but as far as I know only on their spaceships and stations in order to ensure that everyone has equal access to resources and does not abuse them. However, I am not aware that there are medical credits - health care is completely free for everyone. Interestingly, I found an article that even mentions Bitcoin in the context of Star Trek - a very interesting read for those interested in the concept of a non-currency-based society.

Stewart: When Gene Roddenberry was coming up with this universe and this concept, things like Bitcoin didn’t exist. What do you think he would have made of that? Does that fit into this concept at all?

Saadia: I’ve always wondered if there is an accounting unit of some sort to keep track of what is being made and what is being produced.

Stewart: You mean, like a federation accounting unit?

Saadia: Yeah, an accounting unit. Not a currency, but something to keep track and account for the allocation of resources. But we don’t see that in “Trek.” These are the parameters of the world. I’d be very surprised that the next Picard show would be about accumulating artifacts.

Stewart: Suddenly he starts carrying cash.

Saadia: Or Bitcoins.
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January 27, 2022, 05:44:54 AM
#23
From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century. Our greediness and eagerness for more power make us intelligent animals. Humans are capable of their own destruction. But what if those never happen? what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?
There are some controversial claims here. First, it's not a fact that it's greediness and desire of power that make us intelligent. I'd say it's actually our curiosity and ability to cooperate. As for a scenario of one nation, it's not productive. You see, it's actually diversity that helps to develop new things. If you get a bunch of very similar people, they'll come up with very similar ideas and have very similar biases. It's counterproductive for scientific research. People with different backgrounds and values can achieve way more because they can offer a variety of ideas and create truly innovative approaches. Also, humanity is just full of many distinctions, so being one nation isn't exactly possible. But we can and strive to be a multitude of nations that respect each other's differences. As for a global currency, it's more realistic because it's convenient to hold the same thing valuable enough to function as a medium of exchange, but this can work only if nobody's in control of this currency (it has to be decentralized), and even then I don't think humanity's ready for that yet.
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January 27, 2022, 05:18:15 AM
#22
One nation one currency....

What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?
Humans may have science, technology, nuclear, weapons of mass destruction or the greatest digital currency, but cannot change: (One nation one currency), even though it happened, a world war will occur, the economy will be destroyed, humans will kill each other, that's the inconvenience that will happen.

The advantages are certainly there, for sure the rulers at that time will be rich and powerful for their greedy deeds, but they are not calm in their greed, the commoners will follow him and finish him wherever he goes.

For that think like now, don't think we will face the era of the soviet union, it won't happen again, people have calmed down with the current situation.
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January 26, 2022, 07:41:42 PM
#21
From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century. Our greediness and eagerness for more power make us intelligent animals. Humans are capable of their own destruction. But what if those never happen? what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?

Human is the powerful animal in the universe. This sustain of the human by the one new factor of greedy and Eager toward the power.So they Ruling the food chain and control over the powerful animal like Lion, Tiger.They like to keep that powerful Animal in a Cages.It was a psysotic behavior by the man to view the powerful Animal of the food chain in a Cage.Following it, they started to control the human from the technologies.
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January 26, 2022, 06:23:05 PM
#20
Its popular for investors to encourage diversification. Don't put all of your eggs in one basket, they say.

If diversity is important and valuable than what arguments do we have for single currencies or single nations?


If you look at some sci-fi series like Star Trek, there's a united nation on Earth, but they don't have the currency - the world is so advanced that it's not even needed anymore - if you need something, just ask for a replicator Wink


AFAIK they use credits and some form of transactional exchange in starfleet. I can't find the screenshot. But there is a scene in one of the trek TV series where there is a readout for "medical credits" in sickbay.

Mention of it is omitted. Its a thing where no one is certain exactly how money or the economy works in star trek so its never shown.
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January 26, 2022, 03:27:06 PM
#19
what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?
I believe a situation like that will be monotonous, and like they say, "Monotony kills interest" I believe in variety being the spice of life and as such will be displeased with a single world currency. If we've just one currency, it then means we wouldn't be having the Forex market. There won't be the trading of currency pairs. Come to think of it, there won't be the innovation called Bitcoin. We all wouldn't even be here. Do you see how an impossibility that is now?
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January 26, 2022, 03:18:01 PM
#18
From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century. Our greediness and eagerness for more power make us intelligent animals. Humans are capable of their own destruction. But what if those never happen? what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?

Necessity is the mother of all discovery. Human won't be technologically superior if there wasn't any conflict between them. Because of was humans made such discovery that was not only help to win the war but also benefited them many ways too. Nuclear energy was discovered and used for destruction but now we are using it for energy. If you look at the history then you will see most of the technological advancement happens when the world seen war.

I am not saying war is good so that we would see more technological advancement but what I said is the reality..
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January 26, 2022, 03:10:15 PM
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but if that ever happens what will happen with our science and technology? Internal conflict over the century slowed down our technological advancement. If there was no conflict between different human races then the achievement of humans over science and technology could be more advanced. Maybe we could colonize other planets by now.

On the other hand, if you already have the imagination and thoughts to that extent, then what comes to your mind for the realization of such a thing?

Actually, it's hard to imagine what would happen exactly but I have a free mind so it won't bother me to make my own imagination. I think we could be so advanced that our technology would allow us to harness solar energy directly from the sun and we won't need any fossil fuel. People would exchange stored energy and wealth people would live in the sky. Communication would be much easier than now. My imagination may look like a sci-fi movie but after seeing such technological advancement in this century I think that could be the reality.
Maybe I will add about the imagination that is still lacking. What about the world of Elon Musk who wants to make Mars a new place to travel and a new place to live for mankind to avoid the apocalypse.

I know the sophistication of technology makes people think their imagination is far enough. Apart from that kind of thinking, I think it's perfectly fine. To realize this dream, is today's technological sophistication enough? the answer is no and still not. Rockets that go to the moon also often fail to launch? isn't this rationale that might be a task in the future? Furthermore, the technological sophistication of Nikola Tesla is still a mystery? is it some kind of future solved answer?

The answer is only one, today even a second in the future is still an unsolved mystery? Could there be a time machine? Grin

This universe is so vast that it is not possible to know all of its mysteries. Who knows what humans will discover next. Maybe we could build a time machine that could harness information from the past. In the 19th century, many things were sophisticated that we are using in our daily life. Nikola Tesla had a mind that could imagine the future and we have seen that by his invention. Who knows maybe in the future we could have another mind like him or even better. Human brains are becoming smaller in size but getting stronger as well. What I think is "Today's imagination is the reality of the tomorrow."
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January 26, 2022, 02:41:35 PM
#16
From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century. Our greediness and eagerness for more power make us intelligent animals. Humans are capable of their own destruction. But what if those never happen? what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?

I think that human desire is the only thing fueling the future for us. Whether its greed for money, desire to keep on living, desire to feel as happy as possible or psychological desires that give the same dopamine rush to the human brain, its all a pre-programmed "instinct" to want more and more. And the only way we can get more is by becoming more complex, more advanced and in the end, whether it may be our destruction or our only way to survive, remains to be seen.

I just hope we don't embarrass our species in front of any higher beings watching us....
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January 26, 2022, 02:28:26 PM
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but if that ever happens what will happen with our science and technology? Internal conflict over the century slowed down our technological advancement. If there was no conflict between different human races then the achievement of humans over science and technology could be more advanced. Maybe we could colonize other planets by now.

On the other hand, if you already have the imagination and thoughts to that extent, then what comes to your mind for the realization of such a thing?

Actually, it's hard to imagine what would happen exactly but I have a free mind so it won't bother me to make my own imagination. I think we could be so advanced that our technology would allow us to harness solar energy directly from the sun and we won't need any fossil fuel. People would exchange stored energy and wealth people would live in the sky. Communication would be much easier than now. My imagination may look like a sci-fi movie but after seeing such technological advancement in this century I think that could be the reality.
Maybe I will add about the imagination that is still lacking. What about the world of Elon Musk who wants to make Mars a new place to travel and a new place to live for mankind to avoid the apocalypse.

I know the sophistication of technology makes people think their imagination is far enough. Apart from that kind of thinking, I think it's perfectly fine. To realize this dream, is today's technological sophistication enough? the answer is no and still not. Rockets that go to the moon also often fail to launch? isn't this rationale that might be a task in the future? Furthermore, the technological sophistication of Nikola Tesla is still a mystery? is it some kind of future solved answer?

The answer is only one, today even a second in the future is still an unsolved mystery? Could there be a time machine? Grin
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January 26, 2022, 02:16:36 PM
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but if that ever happens what will happen with our science and technology? Internal conflict over the century slowed down our technological advancement. If there was no conflict between different human races then the achievement of humans over science and technology could be more advanced. Maybe we could colonize other planets by now.

On the other hand, if you already have the imagination and thoughts to that extent, then what comes to your mind for the realization of such a thing?

Actually, it's hard to imagine what would happen exactly but I have a free mind so it won't bother me to make my own imagination. I think we could be so advanced that our technology would allow us to harness solar energy directly from the sun and we won't need any fossil fuel. People would exchange stored energy and wealth people would live in the sky. Communication would be much easier than now. My imagination may look like a sci-fi movie but after seeing such technological advancement in this century I think that could be the reality.
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January 26, 2022, 02:09:15 PM
#13
IMO, it will never come true in any way. We know controllers can change direction easily. The world's governments don't want this to happen, let alone the Dollar elites who are bathing in paper money. Even if we hear historical news how past wars also tried to unite all countries in one currency, it would still be a coup in the most heinous way.
Not much different from the current condition, the supervisors hide to monitor the paper money so that it runs smoothly. Sounds like a conspiracy, but it sure is. We just always try to ignore it or not believe it. Everything is designed that way.
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January 26, 2022, 01:57:35 PM
#12
We should rather talk about one world one currency.
The problem with one currency is the fact that they won't be able to evaluate the price and value country by country, most of the times a currency makes it easier to place any particular country based on the economy. It won't just be conflicts there would be other problems as well at the end there are other countries as well which would not agree to such terms. Therefore I do think having something like bitcoins which is not controlled by any particular country or state or a body makes it so much easier, it helps regulate all the centralized probelms as well. The ease of transferring it internationally is also very convenient. Therefore I do think we are doing a great job with Bitcoins for the moment but we do need a lot of time to adjust and make it more popular.
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January 26, 2022, 01:37:47 PM
#11
From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century. Our greediness and eagerness for more power make us intelligent animals. Humans are capable of their own destruction. But what if those never happen? what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?
Some think of this as some kind of utopia, but is it any surprise that some of the most vilified persons that have ever lived are precisely those that tried to unite most of the world under a single banner? And it is not a mystery to understand why, because in order to do so you need to trample over the wishes of the people that you are integrating to that society, so do not deceive yourself, a single country with a single currency basically means that a single country was able to conquer the whole world, and that is not a good thing.
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January 26, 2022, 01:34:03 PM
#10
If you like reading things such as conspiracies, you have probably heard and read about a one-world government. That also pertains to one-world currency. The funny thing is that isn't that a coincidence that bitcoin is uniting all of us and agreeing that this is our money that doesn't have any boundary and is good to spend wherever we are? But you know what, realistically speaking, you see countries, boundaries, they're having wars and disagreement with each other.
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