Topic: One Week in Islam: What is Wrong With This Faith??? - page 4. (Read 6142 times)

In the same way a corporation is not a person of itself, to ask what is wrong with a faith is a diversion from the reality of the matter: what you want to ask is what is wrong with these individuals, who happen to agree with each other on a number of things due to similar upbringings.  A man does not become overtly violent the moment he follows Islam; however, individuals raised violently may become involved in this religion, and so it is explained how individuals of X religion or more/less violent than individuals of another religion; the religion is a buffer, it doesn't exist, it only serves to hide the sociopaths of our world through dilution: it's hard to say X group is all violent, and we make the mistake of saying "Well we can't blame all of these people for the actions of a few," perhaps not toward religions or cultures a society despises but more so for their own, when what we really should be doing is classifying these people as a group on their own: we do not have a problem with Islam, or any given faith; we have a problem with sociopaths.

Thus we cannot blame a religion for behavior; the religion does not dictate behavior, it is not a living entity, it is a concept, a product of individuals who agree on a similar set of principles.  If we acknowledge these people operate under a banner, we inevitably get what we have now: a series of nation-states where evil is socialized so as no one person can be blamed (e.g. if America drone-strikes innocents, there is no individual we could ever truly point the finger at; some say the president, some say banks, some say "illuminati", but ultimately it's paid for by the "American people.")  This is how religions, nations, cultures and SJMs (etc.) all tie together: they all act as a shield to protect an individual within a collective from persecution for his actions.  Knowing this, it's a fool's job to insist there is something wrong with a faith as there's always the "exception" within the group who is not as bad as the others, or sometimes downright virtuous (the cornerstone to our collectivist shield.)  This leads to great fights between those who dislike the particular collective (in this case non-Islams, probably predominantly Christian) and those who like/participate in the collective (Islams or supporters of them.)  And vice versa; there's loads of examples of Christians doing naughty things that Islams will always point out, but, as said, the good individuals of a collective always outweigh the bad, so it's impossible to ever call one collective bad without being labelled "intolerant."  So we should see it for what it is: one big group of virtuous people, one small group of vicious people; doesn't matter what beliefs they have, if they're vicious, they're vicious, and I don't associate with vicious people.

Anyway, to answer the question: violent, oppressive childhoods lead to violent, oppressive adults; nix self-awareness, they do only what they're programmed to do, the programmers being their parents for the majority of it (the rest being largely environment.)  Nothing more to it.  If you'd like to see less of these people, make sure you raise your kids as peacefully and rationally as is possible, tell your friends to do the same, and let the vicious people kill each other off.

Nothing wrong with faith itself, wrong are the people that are cattle and blind and stupid.

Thumbs up for this post if i could.  They want their brutal Religion/laws/insanity let them go back to the diseased desert they come from.   They Can rape Camels and kill each other there.

A better question for the OP is what's right with this faith?  Answer: Nothing

Bottom line ..


Feel free to worship the God of your choice, but  
If you want to live under Shariah Law then get the hell
out of my country and go back to where you came from ..

Triff ..

Look at how filthy these little Monkeys are.  You can almost smell them.  I wouldn't trust a crowd of those animals together.

I don't like the idea that they can do whatever they want in their far-away nations, and only be respectful of others in Europe. There are some moderate people everywhere, and there are many Egyptian women who would enjoy more freedom. It's a global village, and we shouldn't tolerate people like islamists who want to impose their views and their laws on others anywhere.

Men never do evil so completely  or so joyfully than when they do it from religious conviction.
Blaise Pascal.
All religions are evil.
It is true that Islam is particularly ghastly and looks likely to be for the foreseeable future.
The Bushite invasion was in pursuit of Iraqi oil but it could not be sustained.
All they achieved was to make it available for fanatics to fight over.
As to nuclear weapons it appears that some shadowy American background figures are doing their best to push the idea, making claims that the Russian arsenal is depleted and old.

GET BUSY: REPORT! REPORT! REPORT! DELETE! DELETE! DELETE!


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Not my thread stir negative emotion regarding islam and muslim people,but the action of some muslim people .Your free to express your opinion ,positive or negative...and i have it too.
I saw other threads,were people express what they don't like  Jews or Christians...so what?Every religion has its bad people ....but some tend to have only bad rather than good.
I am not ignorant,this is a forum were people to express their view on bitcoin,economy,society....no one force you to read and reply to a thread you don't like or agree with it.....so you free to do what you want, even to report me,that won't change my view or opinion over what i posted on this thread.

Dear Trinibits,

Just noticed yet another post with an opinion.  You had better get busy and report this one also.  In fact:

     I believe Trinibits is an intolerant person.

Now you have to report my post too!

Report for what?  its an Opinion, Op has the right to their own Opinion, not everyone is going to like what people post here, as there are many threads I would have reported, go get a life and go to other forums like this that have opinions just like this one.  Trinibits is a troll.

In order to claim Christianity is 'just as bad' as an excuse for Islam , the accusers have go back in history several hundred years and then distort the truth. 
If you only beat your wives and honor kill your daughters, then you're a 'moderate' Muslim. A 'moderate' by Islamic standards would be a murderous, misogynistic, raving lunatic by Christian standards.
And let's not forget that we Americans are the ultimate targets for those currently trying to gain control of Iraq and its oil billions. That will finance just about any terrorist attack on America that these fanatics bent on world domination can dream up. Everything has its price, including nuclear weapons.

http://www.cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/barbara-boland/muslim-student-who-ignited-media-firestorm-benghazi-panel-family-friend

By reporting the OP and this thread you are not being very tolerant of his opinion.  Why are you so intolerant?

Shameless thread of hatred designed to stir emotion. I shall report to moderator once I get home from work. What next a thread about hatred towards Jews or Christians? This ignorance shouldn't be tolerated or colluded with on this forum

With your logic, if i were to buy an automatic rifle, go to a crowded place and shoot everyone while shouting at the top of my lungs:

"There is no god, atheism is fantastic! Fuck the rules"

All atheists are mass murderers and ridiculously stupid people.

Point being the act of a few =/= the act of the group they claim to represent.

I know many muslims who are perfectly reasonable and friendly people and they do not believe in shariah and terrorism.

I would recommend Morocco. It is a very tolerant nation. There are even Jews living there (thousands of them). No religious conflicts for the last 100 years or so. The only problem is that they don't speak English. 

And all religions are evil, at the moment it must be said that Islam is particularly ghastly.

In the Middle Ages, when Christianity was doing much the same things this post is condemning Islam, Muslim scholars were making massive advances in astronomy, mathematics and other pursuits.

Societies have a close relationship with their principal religion and mankind will stagnate so long as religions are anchoring them.

I do agree that Islam, if it continues with the present bunch of fanatics leading them, will probably go in reverse.

“Men never do evil so completely  or so joyfully than when they do it from religious   conviction.”  Blaise Pascal.

I highly recommend Morocco and Istanbul as well.  I know Indonesia has had some terrorists....so have we. I  haven't looked at the data so Im not sure who has had more wackos kill people for no good reason in their respective countries and whether that difference is meaningful.

You claim that Indonesia is peaceful? Perhaps you need to check these incidents:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maluku_sectarian_conflict
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laskar_Jihad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Indonesian_beheadings_of_Christian_girls
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings