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Quote from: Oshosondy on July 09, 2024, 01:42:23 AM

The commonest gambling in my country are online gambling. Even the betting agents are working for the online gambling sites fwhich makes no difference than people placing bet offline while the betting agent help them stake the vet online just like people that do it directly online. Another one are the use of cryptocurrencies which is definitely online.

Land based casinos have always been there - right from the time we had coupon codes being registered on a little device that looked like a POS printer; The point is, it normally has a hosting site for already booked games, upon registration for every single ticket that is printed out of that device with an inscription that says "bet placed successfully"

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 10, 2024, 10:19:56 AM

This is an interesting take on the topic. I'm not sure which side I lean to be honest. When I play at in an in-person casino, I feel like there's less chance of them scamming me, however when I see "outside the lines" type reporting it does seem like they are able to get away with a lot of stuff that you wouldn't realize they could do.

Honestly, that's the same way I feel... Even though I wanted to begin my journey as a gambler, I can't choose online casinos just immediately for the same reason. What makes alot of sense to me is the option of wagering with cryptocurrencies.

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One of the largest tax contributors are the legal and operating gambling casinos so most of countries allow this kind of entertainment because its contribute a lot to the economy, now the thing of number of casinos its their strategy to get more effective with their users of course the higher get chance the player wins the game they will choose those, the higher the number of rewards and perks playing in their casino is the players ideal to play, its good to have a competitor to make sure casino will not just monopoly this industry and also gives other option to the players.

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Quote from: bubilas on July 11, 2024, 01:22:03 AM

The only advantage that physical casinos have over online casinos is the atmosphere. The noise of slot machines, cubes and tables covered with fabric. But that's all. You're really right about the odds being slim, and I think the only type of game you should go to a physical casino for is playing against another player. Since fair conditions will be observed. In all other cases, I prefer online casinos because they are full of advantages.

No doubt for that because physical casinos have its place to gamblers and we knows that physical casinos already exist from a long time ago. People who knows about online casinos will admit that they have more benefits from physical casinos because they don't have to go to that place and they can playing gambling from any place they wants. That can saves them from the cost to go to that place and they can deposit more money if they use online casino.

If people doesn't thinks about the fair conditions and only wants to have fun, he will not thinks whether he playing gambling in physical or online casinos because his purpose is only for have fun and enjoy his spare time. Many of us prefer with online casinos especially online crypto casinos because we gets many benefits by playing on that sites so we don't have to bother with thinks about fair conditions because we wants to have fun.

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Online gambling have become the revolution in the gambling industry, and the fact that they have got high competition because so many others are coming up with diverse ways of gambling online makes it even more attractive as the casinos will do almost everything possible to retain their customers and by extension, the gamblers gets to benefit from this competition amongst the online betting platforms/casinos. In situations where theres a monopoly just like the countries where they have to use only the state owned casinos, the unfair act will continue and remain prevalent without remorse at some point.

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In most countries where gambling is allowed we are used to there being very few or even just a single company that is allowed to gamble with. For example in most US states as well as most of Europe only the state monopoly company is allowed to operate gambling shops. And for most people this is their only exposure to gambling.

Only exposure to gambling? We live in 2024, not 1994. Most people have computers and smartphones with internet. Social media influencers playing gambling games and promoting gambling are a thing. Physical gambling shops are "the only exposure to gambling" only for the people, who don't know how to use a computer.

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All in all I just wanted to say that the competition in online gambling has made casinos much more fair than the gambling shops when it comes to any gambling game. So I would say if someone is going to gamble anyway, maybe better to introduce them to online play. And also let them know what provable fairness is, they're going to appreciate you down the line probably. Wink

I find it hard to believe that the competition makes online casinos more fair than the gambling shops. Do you have any actual proof to backup this claim? Any research or poll? Any statistical data(which is actually impossible to be gathered)?
"Fair" in terms of the gambling games not being rigged? Maybe yes, maybe no. It depends of the particular online casino.
Many online casinos aren't "fair" when it comes to blocking gambler's accounts and legally stealing their money. Some casinos are good, other casinos are bad. There's no point putting all online casinos in one category.

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Quote from: alani123 on July 09, 2024, 01:26:04 AM

But if you think a out it, this form of "legal" gambling is unfair to the gambler in the sense that it has ridiculously large house edge rates and very low return to player rates. For instance, state lotteries have an RTP of around 50%. They get to keep the rest! State owned slots and kino games can have a house edge of 30%! This is absurd compared to online casinos where the absolute maximum of a house edge I have seen is 5% on any game, but usually it's 1% for most games and 2.5% for slots.

The only thing good with state gambling corporations is that they may offer better odds for sports betting sometimes. Thankfully their volume gets utilized in something good for once. But even the allure of high lottery reward with them hides behind the fact that they keep 50% of proceeds so the rewards could even be higher.

You have a point, but it also shows that you are biased against state-owned casinos since you are silent about some excesses/cons of the present online casinos. No establishment or type/style of operation is perfect, that is what I am trying to point out. These state-owned casinos are not even popular, some gamblers even wish they had the experience of it and enjoy better fairness.

By the way, if a casino tells you it has a certain RPT/edge, do you always believe it? If you do, then you are being played. Fine, some may be true to their words, but certainly, many more will not and there is nothing anyone can do about that. The way your betting outcomes come in when you bet many times should have hinted you some fact about it, there is no safe haven in gambling. We should only understand it generally and look for ways we can get the best out of it (fun, if possible money).

However, the accessibility of online casinos can never be undermined, still, state-owned casinos are online also.

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Quote from: junder on July 11, 2024, 12:40:04 AM

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Moreover, nowadays everyone, especially young people or teenagers, are skilled at accessing and operating the internet, even if they want to do something but it is blocked, they will look for ways to do it and with the help of the internet which makes it easy, this is what they use.

Even today, the internet is dominated by the younger generation, who have a lot of access because they were born with existing technology and are ready to use today. No one will be able to fully prevent even if access is restricted, there will always be a way to escape.

Even in countries like China that ban crypto completely, some residents can still access crypto in various ways due to the help of increasingly sophisticated technology.

Quote from: bubilas on July 11, 2024, 01:22:03 AM

The only advantage that physical casinos have over online casinos is the atmosphere. The noise of slot machines, cubes and tables covered with fabric. But that's all. You're really right about the odds being slim, and I think the only type of game you should go to a physical casino for is playing against another player. Since fair conditions will be observed. In all other cases, I prefer online casinos because they are full of advantages.

Offline casinos provide a real experience that will never be forgotten and will never be owned by an Online casino.
The sounds of slot machine and the atmosphere when competing face-to-face with other gamblers will give off a different adrenaline, this will be an unforgettable experience.

Although there is now Virtual technology that will bring a real Casino atmosphere, but it will not be the same as the original.

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I never playing at physical casinos so i do not really know how the house edge determined on those casinos but indeed mostly physical casinos will give high house edge to the players because this is one of their ways of taking profit and if there is no house edge then the casinos will never last long or never exist and if we compared house edge between online casinos and physical casinos then obviously online casinos will be more fair to the players because mostly online casinos only giving 1% - 3% for each games but one of the biggest problem when using online casinos is their potential to scamming people is huge compared to physical casinos because plenty of online casinos who untrusted available currently but indeed promote online casinos to the people is good because there are so many benefits that can be obtained from playing at online casinos but before you promote it then make sure those casinos has good reputation and trusted

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Quote from: Nrcewker on July 10, 2024, 11:54:22 PM

Online gambling has many benefits over the physical gambling casinos. This fairness is one of the major advantages that online gambling provides over the physical casinos. In physical casinos, they often rig their game machines; yes, it’s hard to rig the PVP games, but when you are playing against a machine, there are chances of not organizing fairly. Moreover, in many countries gambling is banned; hence, online gambling comes into rescue in such cases. I feel like online gambling has several reasons to attract gamblers towards it. Hence, we are seeing the number of online gamblers increasing day by day.

The only advantage that physical casinos have over online casinos is the atmosphere. The noise of slot machines, cubes and tables covered with fabric. But that's all. You're really right about the odds being slim, and I think the only type of game you should go to a physical casino for is playing against another player. Since fair conditions will be observed. In all other cases, I prefer online casinos because they are full of advantages.

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Quote from: taufik123 on July 10, 2024, 11:49:23 PM

But of course there are bad impacts that also occur when online gambling can be accessed by anyone and anywhere.
Ordinary people will easily play it and put a lot of money into online gambling, and minors even play it because there is no monitoring from their parents.

Countries that prohibit gambling have blocked it but because the internet is a fairly wide cyber world, there will always be a gap to be able to access it.
Even now, gambling is also camouflaged as a game that looks like an ordinary game, but in fact it is part of online gambling.

The bad effects that can occur in gambling depend on what kind of gambling we ourselves do. If we respond wrongly to gambling then there will be thoughts that lead us to continue gambling, while the risk of losing that cannot be avoided is something that is certain to happen. , and after that it depends on us ourselves how we respond to it, if we respond to it well, understand and can accept the disappointing thing, then there will be no thoughts of wanting to recover losses or other things that lead us to big risky decisions and it is better if we respond to disappointing results. If this is done incorrectly, wrong thinking can occur and cause us to make wrong decisions which can lead to fatal negative impacts.

agree with what you say, indeed, countries that have blocked access to online gambling doesn't mean they can no longer gamble online, because as you said, the internet makes everything easier so there are still loopholes to access it. Moreover, nowadays everyone, especially young people or teenagers, are skilled at accessing and operating the internet, even if they want to do something but it is blocked, they will look for ways to do it and with the help of the internet which makes it easy, this is what they use.

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Online gambling has many benefits over the physical gambling casinos. This fairness is one of the major advantages that online gambling provides over the physical casinos. In physical casinos, they often rig their game machines; yes, it’s hard to rig the PVP games, but when you are playing against a machine, there are chances of not organizing fairly. Moreover, in many countries gambling is banned; hence, online gambling comes into rescue in such cases. I feel like online gambling has several reasons to attract gamblers towards it. Hence, we are seeing the number of online gamblers increasing day by day.

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Quote from: hyudien on July 10, 2024, 11:21:05 PM

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We all know that online gambling is gambling which is currently popular among all levels of society and this also applies to countries that prohibit gambling, because online gambling can be done with an internet connection, but currently everyone can't stay away from what is called mobile phone, internet or social media and they all meet the requirements for doing online gambling so it is very easy for people nowadays to do online gambling.

But of course there are bad impacts that also occur when online gambling can be accessed by anyone and anywhere.
Ordinary people will easily play it and put a lot of money into online gambling, and minors even play it because there is no monitoring from their parents.

Countries that prohibit gambling have blocked it but because the internet is a fairly wide cyber world, there will always be a gap to be able to access it.
Even now, gambling is also camouflaged as a game that looks like an ordinary game, but in fact it is part of online gambling.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 10, 2024, 06:05:25 PM

In this current time I've not seen a country that does not accept gambling to be associated in that country because men looking at it right away you will see that the gambling is like taking over most of the activities like cryptocurrency across different walls so I've seen it gambling cannot be regulated or stop by a government of any nation because if they do gambling will continue to go on illegally in that country because most of the gambling right away is not a centralized scan of gambling but is decentralized one which you can Gamble with there your system instead of going to gambling center

Are there any countries that have banned online casinos? What ended? As far as I know, as long as the casino's headquarters are not in the country where it has been restricted/banned by law, players will be able to continue playing in the same way as if it were legal.

That makes sense, with this online casino of course gambling can be done with easy access even if the casino office is outside the country we live in. Apart from that, with countries that prohibit casinos or physical gambling, I think there are people who gamble, whether physical or online, and even though the country prohibits gambling activities, I think in that country there are physical but hidden gambling places, and with online gambling Of course, a country that prohibits gambling will not be able to guarantee that all of its people will not gamble, of course there are more or less people who gamble online even though gambling is prohibited in their country.
We all know that online gambling is gambling which is currently popular among all levels of society and this also applies to countries that prohibit gambling, because online gambling can be done with an internet connection, but currently everyone can't stay away from what is called mobile phone, internet or social media and they all meet the requirements for doing online gambling so it is very easy for people nowadays to do online gambling.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on July 10, 2024, 06:05:25 PM

In this current time I've not seen a country that does not accept gambling to be associated in that country because men looking at it right away you will see that the gambling is like taking over most of the activities like cryptocurrency across different walls so I've seen it gambling cannot be regulated or stop by a government of any nation because if they do gambling will continue to go on illegally in that country because most of the gambling right away is not a centralized scan of gambling but is decentralized one which you can Gamble with there your system instead of going to gambling center

Are there any countries that have banned online casinos? What ended? As far as I know, as long as the casino's headquarters are not in the country where it has been restricted/banned by law, players will be able to continue playing in the same way as if it were legal.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on July 10, 2024, 05:18:48 PM

Yes, another thing is that online gambling assures you of fast payout, low stress.

What do you mean by fast payment and low stress? Some online casinos can frustrate the hell out of your life before you can make a successful withdrawal from them, excused upon excuse, unless for those casinos that have proven themselves trustworthy in that direction.

If not, some online casino withdrawals take almost 3–24 hours before they can be able to get your withdrawal request processed. The last bad withdrawal encounter I had with one of the new telegram casinos (which I prefer not to mention the name) took me days before they rectified my withdrawal problem.

If you carefully read again everything that I have said above, I laid emphasis on the fact you can gamble in online at your home, you don't have to go to casino shops and sometimes at the casino shop, you will meet other customers that the cashier must attend to first before you. You will have to wait for your turn too before you are attended to and in terms of payout for offline casino, the money might not really be available at that moment, you will have to exercise patients for the boss in charge of that branch to send money to the cashier before they pay you your winning.

In terms of fast withdrawal for online casino, I don't think there's any casino I have actually experienced a very bad delay in withdrawal. If there's crazy withdrawal delay issues with some casino, it's probably doesn't involve a majority reputable casinos on this forum.

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In this current time I've not seen a country that does not accept gambling to be associated in that country because men looking at it right away you will see that the gambling is like taking over most of the activities like cryptocurrency across different walls so I've seen it gambling cannot be regulated or stop by a government of any nation because if they do gambling will continue to go on illegally in that country because most of the gambling right away is not a centralized scan of gambling but is decentralized one which you can Gamble with there your system instead of going to gambling center

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on July 10, 2024, 05:18:48 PM

Yes, another thing is that online gambling assures you of fast payout, low stress.

What do you mean by fast payment and low stress? Some online casinos can frustrate the hell out of your life before you can make a successful withdrawal from them, excused upon excuse, unless for those casinos that have proven themselves trustworthy in that direction.

If not, some online casino withdrawals take almost 3–24 hours before they can be able to get your withdrawal request processed. The last bad withdrawal encounter I had with one of the new telegram casinos (which I prefer not to mention the name) took me days before they rectified my withdrawal problem.

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I don't know if there is research work that can verify that online casinos are fairer than land-based casinos. However, from my observation, you are right this is because I have experienced more winnings online. I think the reason why many youths are interested in online gambling is due to the effect of the COVID-19 lockdown and massive advertising. The lockdown motivated many youths to start gambling and these online casinos engage in effective publicity. It is also true that online casinos are not highly regulated like the physical ones. Since many of them use cryptocurrencies, it promotes some level of privacy. They are innovative, offer a variety of games, and give enticing bonuses.

I can't agree more, I also have the same impression, in addition, online casinos don't require as much regulation as physical casinos, so the costs for both the house and the customer are reduced.

Definitely, with the decentralization and ease of Bitcoin and coins after it and the dissemination and easy access to information due to the internet, it offered a great advantage to online casinos over state-owned betting houses and lotteries, thus making competition fairer, accessible and with at least more advantages for the player, in addition to thousands of types of gambling within the platforms.

One advantage of online casinos is that players can easily check the provable fairness of the game. In land-based casinos, like for example you are already on the table, how do you think you can ask provable fairness? I bet, you can't. This is why I believe, a lot of gamblers are thinking that online casinos are fairer than land based, because a gambler can verify the provable fairness of the game. Also, they can easily check the RTP of each game when it is via online.

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Quote from: Die_empty on July 10, 2024, 04:07:37 PM

I don't know if there is research work that can verify that online casinos are fairer than land-based casinos. However, from my observation, you are right this is because I have experienced more winnings online. I think the reason why many youths are interested in online gambling is due to the effect of the COVID-19 lockdown and massive advertising. The lockdown motivated many youths to start gambling and these online casinos engage in effective publicity. It is also true that online casinos are not highly regulated like the physical ones. Since many of them use cryptocurrencies, it promotes some level of privacy. They are innovative, offer a variety of games, and give enticing bonuses.

I can't agree more, I also have the same impression, in addition, online casinos don't require as much regulation as physical casinos, so the costs for both the house and the customer are reduced.

Definitely, with the decentralization and ease of Bitcoin and coins after it and the dissemination and easy access to information due to the internet, it offered a great advantage to online casinos over state-owned betting houses and lotteries, thus making competition fairer, accessible and with at least more advantages for the player, in addition to thousands of types of gambling within the platforms.

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Quote from: alani123 on July 09, 2024, 01:26:04 AM

So I would say if someone is going to gamble anyway, maybe better to introduce them to online play. And also let them know what provable fairness is, they're going to appreciate you down the line probably. Wink

There are lots of fraud and scammers online, so I believe just introducing people to play online to gamble isn't very responsible. We should have prior knowledge about the platform we are introducing to our friends and other people. They must be the platform that has a well-established reputation and gathers the trust of their client. This is to prevent our friends and the people we introduced to online gambling fell victim to scams and fraud.

Not all online gambling platform offers the most fair gambling experience. There are still many casinos that take advantage of the factors players do not know and exploit them with it. After all, I do not see anything difference between online and land-based activity. If the person wanted to scam someone, they will do it either online or offline.

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