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Quote from: Bardman on April 09, 2018, 06:40:58 PM

https://cointelegraph.com/news/2018-mature-crypto-market-will-draw-more-investment-see-less-volatility-analyst-says

Obviously as an investor you understand there are risks but out of all the exchanges out there, i can think of 2-3 that I would personally trust with my money and in my case we are only talking about thousands, imagine a big player with millions using etherdelta or some other retarded exchange, no way that will ever happen. Even big exchanges like bittrex, not long ago, they fucked up and made everyone wait months and months to get your account enabled or verified. Why would any big player invest in crypto when the risk is so huge, there is literally zero safety, any exchange can run away with your money and you can barely do anything.

I think the only kind of exchanger that will run away with your money are those that are… well, you already know scams when you see them. I don’t believe that well know exchangers with a good reputation online will do such. I don’t know why bitter has been acting that way recently, I’m just guessing that maybe they have a lot of investors, maybe that’s the reason they have not been able to carry out and maintain their platform the way they should.

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Quote from: Panda Trump on April 10, 2018, 02:11:47 PM

Quote from: Bardman on April 09, 2018, 06:40:58 PM

https://cointelegraph.com/news/2018-mature-crypto-market-will-draw-more-investment-see-less-volatility-analyst-says

Obviously as an investor you understand there are risks but out of all the exchanges out there, i can think of 2-3 that I would personally trust with my money and in my case we are only talking about thousands, imagine a big player with millions using etherdelta or some other retarded exchange, no way that will ever happen. Even big exchanges like bittrex, not long ago, they fucked up and made everyone wait months and months to get your account enabled or verified. Why would any big player invest in crypto when the risk is so huge, there is literally zero safety, any exchange can run away with your money and you can barely do anything.

Why would we want big investors? Like really... More whales coming in? How's that a positive thing?
We're now talking about how cryptocurrencies would only be useful for speculative purposes as opposed to monetary usage, which is what Cryptocurrencies were invented for, after all.

Of course, a mature and regulated Crypto-market, especially with less volatility, would have a very positive influence on mass-adoption, since people wouldn't be scared to lose 50% of their money overnight all of a sudden... But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about the speculative results.

And the speculative results would be negative. If you want low volatility, just go to the stock market. Cryptocurrencies are a more risky, more rewarding and more exciting alternative to the regular stock market. From a trader's point of view, we shouldn't want to change that, should we?

It wasn't whales that pushed the price to 20k, it was dumb people coming to bitcoin and buying at whatever price because of FOMO. Big investors know how to mange their stocks, they won't enter retarded positions and they won't sell to crash the market on purpose, I'd rather have serious investors than kids and people wanting to get rich quick, they are the ones that also pushed the price down, panicking at every dip.

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If cryptocurrency being regulated to attract big fish then it is fine with me as long as it can benefits the small investors as well. The more the investors the healthier the market. I hope they only regulating just to attract more investors and not controlling it.

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Quote from: Bardman on April 09, 2018, 06:40:58 PM

https://cointelegraph.com/news/2018-mature-crypto-market-will-draw-more-investment-see-less-volatility-analyst-says

Obviously as an investor you understand there are risks but out of all the exchanges out there, i can think of 2-3 that I would personally trust with my money and in my case we are only talking about thousands, imagine a big player with millions using etherdelta or some other retarded exchange, no way that will ever happen. Even big exchanges like bittrex, not long ago, they fucked up and made everyone wait months and months to get your account enabled or verified. Why would any big player invest in crypto when the risk is so huge, there is literally zero safety, any exchange can run away with your money and you can barely do anything.

Yes, regulation means that there is more room for control for the government, and more interest from big investors.

But it's not needed. Even if there aren't institutional investors from traditional investment banks or whatnot investing in crypto, there is no problem.

Whatever they want to do is out of our reach. They could invest in the current crypto market, even without sufficient regulation. But the thing is, neither big investors nor regulation from the government is needed for bitcoin or other crypto to succeed. Big investors are most likely not going to invest directly into cryptocurrencies anyways. Instead, they may invest in crypto Fintech startups as angel investors, etc.

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Quote from: Bardman on April 09, 2018, 06:40:58 PM

https://cointelegraph.com/news/2018-mature-crypto-market-will-draw-more-investment-see-less-volatility-analyst-says

Obviously as an investor you understand there are risks but out of all the exchanges out there, i can think of 2-3 that I would personally trust with my money and in my case we are only talking about thousands, imagine a big player with millions using etherdelta or some other retarded exchange, no way that will ever happen. Even big exchanges like bittrex, not long ago, they fucked up and made everyone wait months and months to get your account enabled or verified. Why would any big player invest in crypto when the risk is so huge, there is literally zero safety, any exchange can run away with your money and you can barely do anything.

Why would we want big investors? Like really... More whales coming in? How's that a positive thing?
We're now talking about how cryptocurrencies would only be useful for speculative purposes as opposed to monetary usage, which is what Cryptocurrencies were invented for, after all.

Of course, a mature and regulated Crypto-market, especially with less volatility, would have a very positive influence on mass-adoption, since people wouldn't be scared to lose 50% of their money overnight all of a sudden... But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about the speculative results.

And the speculative results would be negative. If you want low volatility, just go to the stock market. Cryptocurrencies are a more risky, more rewarding and more exciting alternative to the regular stock market. From a trader's point of view, we shouldn't want to change that, should we?

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Quote from: Bardman on April 09, 2018, 06:40:58 PM

https://cointelegraph.com/news/2018-mature-crypto-market-will-draw-more-investment-see-less-volatility-analyst-says

Obviously as an investor you understand there are risks but out of all the exchanges out there, i can think of 2-3 that I would personally trust with my money and in my case we are only talking about thousands, imagine a big player with millions using etherdelta or some other retarded exchange, no way that will ever happen. Even big exchanges like bittrex, not long ago, they fucked up and made everyone wait months and months to get your account enabled or verified. Why would any big player invest in crypto when the risk is so huge, there is literally zero safety, any exchange can run away with your money and you can barely do anything.

While I pretty much agree with your point, I really do not think that this alone will hinder big investors from investing big funds on the crypto industry. I mean, I just can't see that happening. You see, this industry is breathing out the word risks and is living by it, everyone surely does know that and with these exchanges having these minimal risks, I don't think that it will beat the risks of investing on cryptos alone. Trust me man, when the markets go bullish again, big investors will jump into the game faster than you can blink.

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Quote from: Bardman on April 10, 2018, 05:34:18 AM

Quote from: amishmanish on April 09, 2018, 11:01:28 PM

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Again, Why would anyone looking to invest millions go for Etherdelta. Isn't it the place where anyone can list a similar sounding contract and scam you straight?

Because etherdelta is a decentralized exchange running on a smart contract. Isn't that what people brag about when they talk about cryptos, DECENTRALIZED!! they say and yet no one uses etherdelta or the other few real decentralized exchanges because they are garbage.

''however any fraud perpetrated or operational mistakes on the exchange would be unwound by the participants or covered by the brokers and their insurance'' Not something that happens with crypto exchanges.

Someone using bittrex at that time could have lost millions if they had their account blocked.

Most of the decentralized exchanges have been trading alts whose value is hard to justify.

The time when decentralized exchanges can be a norm hasn't come yet. A competitive, truly decentralized exchange which can trustlessly manage fiat conversion isn't available yet as the main problem of initial funding is unsolved. If its funding with fiat then we are back to the problem of relying on banks.

An established currency like bitcoin could have been the obvious solution if bitcoin generation hadn't become so centralized already. An ideal situation would have been for bitcoin to become established as a p2p currency first and the alts should have boomed afterwards.

The booming of alts without bitcoin maturity and distribution has been a clear step backward for the crypto space.

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Quote from: amishmanish on April 09, 2018, 11:01:28 PM

Quote from: Bardman on April 09, 2018, 06:40:58 PM

https://cointelegraph.com/news/2018-mature-crypto-market-will-draw-more-investment-see-less-volatility-analyst-says

Obviously as an investor you understand there are risks but out of all the exchanges out there, i can think of 2-3 that I would personally trust with my money and in my case we are only talking about thousands, imagine a big player with millions using etherdelta or some other retarded exchange, no way that will ever happen. Even big exchanges like bittrex, not long ago, they fucked up and made everyone wait months and months to get your account enabled or verified. Why would any big player invest in crypto when the risk is so huge, there is literally zero safety, any exchange can run away with your money and you can barely do anything.

I doubt that really big investors looking to catch hold of enough BTC would do it through exchanges only. They may as well pass the burden to some investment manager who will find the best OTC or P2P deals for them. There goes the risk that you mention.

Exchanges like Bittrex seem to be suitable mostly for alt-trading. I think we have seen just one cycle of investor influx yet. Clearly the exchanges weren't ready for it. This lull period has given them time to incorporate things like SegWit, Transaction Batching and hopefully time to increase headcounts so that they can actually manage investors.

Again, Why would anyone looking to invest millions go for Etherdelta. Isn't it the place where anyone can list a similar sounding contract and scam you straight?

Because etherdelta is a decentralized exchange running on a smart contract. Isn't that what people brag about when they talk about cryptos, DECENTRALIZED!! they say and yet no one uses etherdelta or the other few real decentralized exchanges because they are garbage.

''however any fraud perpetrated or operational mistakes on the exchange would be unwound by the participants or covered by the brokers and their insurance'' Not something that happens with crypto exchanges.

Someone using bittrex at that time could have lost millions if they had their account blocked.

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Most of the exchange you're talking about was used as an exchanger for tokens while big investors only tend to convert flat into bitcoin and i agreed that regulation in crypto market was made to guarantee safety into these investors account and if we're trying to look into the future of crypto then its obvious that safety concern about their investment is top priority.

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Some exchanges allow you to cash out up to 2 btc limit every day without the hassle long verification and KYC stuff it is big money for normal investors, that's why a lot of people here will say it is better to store and diversify your coin on a wallet that you own the private key or can store on an offline environment like trezor, ledger nano s and other alternatives storage, send some specific coins that you want to trade to the exchanges do not expose all your crypto assets on a hot storage.

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Totally agree even if not reading the full text!

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Quote from: tuikindu01 on April 09, 2018, 10:39:31 PM

It is only a matter of time before cryptocurrency and blockchain technology become mainstream. Hundreds of billions of dollars poured into the local economy. The investment in cryptocurrency is borderless, and the standard encryption market will attract investors from all over the world.

Its just waiting when big investor realizing their investment on cryptomarket. If that really happen, billions dollar will entering market and will boost market cap and maybe can reach highest market cap before.

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I believe that many rich investors have already an analyst and marketing personnel who can give an anticipation and risks for their investment or capital. Millionaires are not fool to lend their money in an exchange that can easily enter by hackers. That's why they are millionaires because they know what is good and bad for their investment.

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I understand that statement and it's true, all of the investors need a secure investment where they can control their funds and scammer can't bother them, for now the crypto world is like wild wild west, if you got scammed there's no way you can track and get your money back, if there are regulation that can prevent that to happened then crypto will gained more trust and more trust will equal to more investors investing their fund

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No, not many big investors are worried about the current risks of many scams, surely big investors are more cautious in investing some money especially for bitcoin, there is nothing to worry about if they process it well, there will be no loophole for loss or fraud .

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In my observation on millionaires strategy toward bitcoin or crypto investments.. They don’t handle the investment on there own.. They have staff doing the work for them,, they also don’t have one only exchange policy.. They’re using multiple addresses on cashing out.. Diversify there coins in many wallets and on popular exchanges..

Binance will give you better security than other exchanges that I’ve ever used.. No major issues and complaints that I’ve heard so far..

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Quote from: Bardman on April 09, 2018, 06:40:58 PM

https://cointelegraph.com/news/2018-mature-crypto-market-will-draw-more-investment-see-less-volatility-analyst-says

Obviously as an investor you understand there are risks but out of all the exchanges out there, i can think of 2-3 that I would personally trust with my money and in my case we are only talking about thousands, imagine a big player with millions using etherdelta or some other retarded exchange, no way that will ever happen. Even big exchanges like bittrex, not long ago, they fucked up and made everyone wait months and months to get your account enabled or verified. Why would any big player invest in crypto when the risk is so huge, there is literally zero safety, any exchange can run away with your money and you can barely do anything.

I doubt that really big investors looking to catch hold of enough BTC would do it through exchanges only. They may as well pass the burden to some investment manager who will find the best OTC or P2P deals for them. There goes the risk that you mention.

Exchanges like Bittrex seem to be suitable mostly for alt-trading. I think we have seen just one cycle of investor influx yet. Clearly the exchanges weren't ready for it. This lull period has given them time to incorporate things like SegWit, Transaction Batching and hopefully time to increase headcounts so that they can actually manage investors.

Again, Why would anyone looking to invest millions go for Etherdelta. Isn't it the place where anyone can list a similar sounding contract and scam you straight?

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It is only a matter of time before cryptocurrency and blockchain technology become mainstream. Hundreds of billions of dollars poured into the local economy. The investment in cryptocurrency is borderless, and the standard encryption market will attract investors from all over the world.

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That is why we keep on telling you that dont invest more than you can lose, dont put all your money on 1 investment. Let's say you invested 1 million and that is all of your money, you invested it in 1 coin which you think a high possibility to get a big bump rate and then suddenly the price go dip and you looses all your money it will surely break your life.

For me if you are going to invest big amount its better to trust bitcoin because its value can decrease but it will surely never die.

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Not at all times, there are also disadvantages in matured crypto market. For example, some matured crypro markets are centralized and only few coins can exchange. The problem dealing with the centralized and old exchange can change by a new existing one. More over, I think that there is a possibility that all exchanges can intercept or access by hackers. We cannot say that the millionaires are totally depend their investment in just one exchange that is capable to secure and protect their coins.

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