AI as it exists in this day and age, works best in deterministic areas where all data affecting the outcome of an event can be quantified, measured and defined to some degree.
An AI neural net trained to be good at an atari game where all in-game variables can be measured is very different from skill at trading stocks or poker.
In a video game, all variables can be measured & quantified. Simple atari games essentially execute in a digital sandbox.
With poker and stock markets there are many factors and variables which are immeasurable & unquantifiable.
Attempting to predict poker or stock markets is partially non-deterministic similar to predicting the outcome of the superbowl or a sports event.
AI and computers can measure deterministic variables like wind speed, temperature, points scored, accuracy %.
But when people are involved and there are variables like attempting to measure the size of someone's heart, the human spirit, determination, will, the potential for people to make good or bad decisions, imagination. It can be extremely difficult for an AI to measure those things which would contribute to it lacking accuracy.
For an AI to be good at poker or stock markets would require a quantum leap in AI technology.
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So Recently Elon Musk announced the Open AI as we know, If you don't know about "Open AI" just google it, It is basically a bot which learns from visual input and becomes a master at doing whatever it is trained on(Given enought time), It can master any Atari game and can even predict stock prices by given it the proper data, so i was wondering what if somebody trains it on Poker or Dice game? It will be the perfect player, far better than the human and could probably make websites go bankrupt, as there is no defeating to an AI. From what i am seeing the future will be AI's Playing against each other. The person who will have a better AI player will win the most bets, Let me know what do you think about it.
Also If anybody in their spare time can train it on Poker or a simple Head Tail game, Do share your results it will be interesting to see.
Also If anybody in their spare time can train it on Poker or a simple Head Tail game, Do share your results it will be interesting to see.
This is definitely advancement in technology but the issue here is that for bots to work on any site, the site must allow it and in this case when AI is winning all the time due to its immense abilities, then I see them installing anti AI systems which might make it less effective and by so doing, users will discontinue its services. Aside that, to deploy AI at this time would be very expensive for an individual to be able to afford.
From what I have read is if we dont change our nounce after each bet, we can lose alot more. The game becomes biased for the house. I was thinking may be the open AI could make use of it. As for poker yes. Any skill game can be mastered by open AI.
I don't know. I don't think it should happen that way. If it is random, then everything stays the same, either you change you nouce, seed or anything like that. It's not suppose to matter, if the casino are fair.
From what I have read is if we dont change our nounce after each bet, we can lose alot more. The game becomes biased for the house. I was thinking may be the open AI could make use of it. As for poker yes. Any skill game can be mastered by open AI.
So Recently Elon Musk announced the Open AI as we know, If you don't know about "Open AI" just google it, It is basically a bot which learns from visual input and becomes a master at doing whatever it is trained on(Given enought time), It can master any Atari game and can even predict stock prices by given it the proper data, so i was wondering what if somebody trains it on Poker or Dice game? It will be the perfect player, far better than the human and could probably make websites go bankrupt, as there is no defeating to an AI. From what i am seeing the future will be AI's Playing against each other. The person who will have a better AI player will win the most bets, Let me know what do you think about it.
Also If anybody in their spare time can train it on Poker or a simple Head Tail game, Do share your results it will be interesting to see.
Also If anybody in their spare time can train it on Poker or a simple Head Tail game, Do share your results it will be interesting to see.
I think it could work for training poker. There are actually a poker AI that is beating all the pros, and everyone is talking about it. But to train it for dice, then that is just a waste of time. There is no way to beat dice or any of those casino games, so it would only manage to lose the house edge on the long run. There is nothing else it could possibly do.
same is the case with stock trading, The information is incomplete, But the guesses are quite right. Plus we humans tend to leave out patterns and we can't process thousands of games to find a pattern, That's where the bot is good at, Also The Open AI showed many exploits in the atari games which humans did not think of. So saying it won't work before even trying doesn't proves anything.
that's right mate this type of AI can only prove his uses if we will try it out by our self as its been created to help human being to take advantage of artificial knowledge I'm not saying it can be accurate but it can give some advantages if uses properly.
same is the case with stock trading, The information is incomplete, But the guesses are quite right. Plus we humans tend to leave out patterns and we can't process thousands of games to find a pattern, That's where the bot is good at, Also The Open AI showed many exploits in the atari games which humans did not think of. So saying it won't work before even trying doesn't proves anything.
So Recently Elon Musk announced the Open AI as we know, If you don't know about "Open AI" just google it, It is basically a bot which learns from visual input and becomes a master at doing whatever it is trained on(Given enought time), It can master any Atari game and can even predict stock prices by given it the proper data, so i was wondering what if somebody trains it on Poker or Dice game? It will be the perfect player, far better than the human and could probably make websites go bankrupt, as there is no defeating to an AI. From what i am seeing the future will be AI's Playing against each other. The person who will have a better AI player will win the most bets, Let me know what do you think about it.
Also If anybody in their spare time can train it on Poker or a simple Head Tail game, Do share your results it will be interesting to see.
Also If anybody in their spare time can train it on Poker or a simple Head Tail game, Do share your results it will be interesting to see.
Poker is a game of incomplete information. You could not train it. At least the Open AI. But you could always make a custom poker bot based on custom programming (usually Python and some open NN kits) to explore your opponent tendencies.
Dice roll doesn't have a memory. Nothing for training here. The is no 'perfect player' for dice. There is a house edge.
So Recently Elon Musk announced the Open AI as we know, If you don't know about "Open AI" just google it, It is basically a bot which learns from visual input and becomes a master at doing whatever it is trained on(Given enought time), It can master any Atari game and can even predict stock prices by given it the proper data, so i was wondering what if somebody trains it on Poker or Dice game? It will be the perfect player, far better than the human and could probably make websites go bankrupt, as there is no defeating to an AI. From what i am seeing the future will be AI's Playing against each other. The person who will have a better AI player will win the most bets, Let me know what do you think about it.
Edit:
Interesting reads on AI:
https://www.wired.com/2017/01/mystery-ai-just-crushed-best-human-players-poker/
Another interesting read:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/11/16137388/dota-2-dendi-open-ai-elon-musk
Edit:
Interesting reads on AI:
https://www.wired.com/2017/01/mystery-ai-just-crushed-best-human-players-poker/
Another interesting read:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/11/16137388/dota-2-dendi-open-ai-elon-musk
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