Topic: OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison - page 11. (Read 3807 times)

Thanks to AgoraDesk.com OrangeFren.com is organising an event in Buenos Aires in two weeks on Friday the 15th of March.

Where? Espacio Cultural Bitcoin, Marcelo Torcuato de Alvear 405, C1058 AAC, Buenos Aires 🇦🇷

When? From 18:00 on Friday the 15th of March

Sign up on OrangeFren.com (noJS & Tor-friendly): https://orangefren.com/event/14
Sign up on Meetup.com: https://www.meetup.com/buenos-aires-crypto-meetup-sponsored-by-agoradesk-com/events/299558195/

If you make it you will get free Monero stickers and a free stainless steel LocalMonero mnemonic wallet!

The venue - Espacio Cultural Bitcoin - accepts cryptocurrency

Thank you! We plan on doing an affiliate program, but it's not a top priority at the moment.

We're currently internally testing Bisq, AgoraDesk and others for fiat <> crypto swaps. We already have AgoraDesk for crypto<>crypto.

As of yesterday WizardSwap also has the OrangeFren Guarantee.

I am glad to hear that, and someone should update that info in scam accusation board.
It is always worth checking for best exchange rates and to exchange coins with help of Orangefren.
Maybe you should start some type of affiliate program.

They are good, and we need more exchanges like that.
Is it possible for you to somehow add Bisq and Agoradesk rates?

Following the very successful event last week in Lisbon with over 60 attendees, we're back for another meetup.

Thanks to eXch.cx OrangeFren.com is organising an event in Madrid next Friday on the 23rd of February.

Where? Cryptocafé, Calle Bastero 13, 28005 Madrid, Spain 🇪🇸

When? From 18:00 on Friday the 23rd of February

Sign up on OrangeFren.com (noJS & Tor-friendly): https://orangefren.com/event/13

1️⃣0️⃣ lucky attendees will receive a FREE Cryptosteel Capsule compatible with the 25-word Monero mnemonic. The Capsules have the eXch.cx logo on them

The venue - Cryptocafé - accepts cryptocurrency

The scope of our guarantee depends on the service in question. With FixedFloat we are unable to offer refunds if the coins were frozen due to taint. Nonetheless, in cases like this, if a user reaches out to us, we intervene and try to assist them in getting their money back. In this recent case we did just that and the user got all their funds back.

However, with for instance eXch, our guarantee agreement offers a full refund to a user in the event of freezing due to taint.

Very nice!
Next free gift should be some open source hardware wallet. maybe Satochip, Seedsigner, Trezor or something similar.

One question:
What happens if money was frozen by exchange when customer uses it via OrangeFren?
For example, recently I saw this with one guy who used FixedFloat exchange, and you have OrangeFren Guarantee for them.

Thanks to eXch.cx OrangeFren.com is organising an event in Lisbon tomorrow on Friday the 9th of February.

Where? The Block, R. Latino Coelho 63, 1st floor, 1050-133 Lisboa 🇵🇹

Notice that the event is on the 1st floor!

When? From 18:30 on Friday the 9th of February

Sign up on OrangeFren.com (noJS & Tor-friendly): https://orangefren.com/event/12

The first 1️⃣0️⃣ people to show up will receive a FREE Cryptosteel Capsule compatible with the 25-word Monero mnemonic. The Capsules have the eXch.cx logo on them

The venue - The Block Lisboa - accepts cryptocurrency

I see that tickets are free for this event, so I don't see why anyone wouldn't want to come if they are in Malta in January.
That is why I took the liberty and I shared the event with people I know from that region.

Thanks to eXch.cx OrangeFren.com is organising an event on Malta in about a month on Friday the 5th of January.

Where? Down the Rabbit Hole, 64 Triq Rue D'Argens, L-Imsida, Malta 🇲🇹

When? From 19:00 on Friday the 5th of January

Sign up on OrangeFren.com (noJS & Tor-friendly): https://orangefren.com/event/11

The venue - Down the Rabbit Hole - accepts cryptocurrency

Thanks to FixedFloat.com OrangeFren.com is organizing two more events!

The first one is in Andorra (Nov. 2nd) and the second one in Barcelona, Spain (Nov. 3rd)

Andorra
Where? 20 Carrer de La Vall Barri Antic Hostel, Andorra la Vella AD500 Andorra

When? From 16:00 on Thursday the 2nd of November

Sign up on OrangeFren.com (noJS & Tor-friendly): https://orangefren.com/event/9
Sign up on meetup.com: https://www.meetup.com/cryptocurrency-fixedfloat-com-meet-up/events/296674600/

Barcelona
Where? COMTE D'URGELL 182 LOCAL 3 08036 Barcelona, Spain

When? From 18:00 on Friday the 3rd of November

Sign up on OrangeFren.com (noJS & Tor-friendly): https://orangefren.com/event/10

Thanks to FixedFloat.com attendees will get a free, water-proof 💦, fire-proof🔥, stainless steel wallet to punch or etch their crypto mnemonic into as well as free Halloween candy!🎃

The FixedFloat.com wallets are also available for purchase globally on: https://monerosupplies.com/product/fixedfloat-wallet/

Good idea! I'll work on that

@OrangeFren is there any way you could improve your service to find best deals for exchanging BTC (and other coins) for fiat currencies (cash, etc)?
I am looking for some better alternative for bestchange.com.

Thanks to LocalMonero.co OrangeFren.com is organizing another event, this time in Istanbul, Turkey in about a week on the 2nd of October.

Where? Sarıdemir, Ragıp Gümüşpala Cd. No:29, 34116 Fatih/İstanbul 🇹🇷

When? From 19:00 on Monday the 2nd of October

You can sign up on Meetup.com: https://www.meetup.com/moneroturko-istanbul/
Or on OrangeFren.com (noJS, Tor-friendly): https://orangefren.com/event/8

Thanks to LocalMonero.co attendees will get a free, water-proof 💦, fire-proof🔥, stainless steel wallet to punch or etch their crypto mnemonic into
The LocalMonero.co wallets are also available for purchase globally on: https://monerosupplies.com/product/localmonero-wallet/

If the event goes well it will become a cyclical event happening every few weeks.

I have the pleasure of announcing that thanks to eXch.cx OrangeFren.com is organizing a meet-up in Budapest, Hungary 🇭🇺 in two weeks on Saturday the 19th of August

Where? Satoshi Nakamoto statue, Záhony u. 7, 1031 Budapest 🇭🇺

When? From 14:00 on Saturday the 19th of August

Sign ups are below - they are FREE
https://orangefren.com/event/7

Since you're reading this on BitcoinTalk you're probably not new to cryptocurrency nonetheless we always welcome everyone, you don't need to like Bitcoin, you don't need to know anything about cryptocurrency, if you're interested in these topics and wanna hang out that's all you need 🧡

If you make it you can expect some refreshments and free Monero stickers

As I write this OrangeFren.com lists offers from: FixedFloat, SideShift, Exolix, ChangeNow, MajesticBank, StealthEx, eXch and (for BTC->XMR) atomic swaps.

The website only shows results which fit the amount you want to trade and, by default, are available in your region. Bitcoin on Lightning is a bit tricky, because there's only a few exchanges that support it and most don't service US customers, however in the coming days I expect to be able to list another Lightning exchange and it'll be one available globally.
You might also be seeing few offers, because recently many of the exchanges faced difficulties with their liquidity providers surrounding the Monero hardfork.

Can you list all the services and exchanges you are using to get best offers?
I tried finding offers for several trading pairs and I only found two or three for Bitcoin Lightning, and most of the other coins except ethereum.
I never used Exolix exchange and I wouldn't trust ChanegNow very much that they won't ask for kyc or freeze my coins.

That's an interesting point that I haven't considered. My rationale was it's best for new users to already have accounts on P2P exchanges to avoid the temptation of going with one of the huge CEXes which are atrocious from a privacy standpoint.


I considered adding that, however it's hard to get a good source for this. I've seen exchanges break their own ToS with respect to requiring verification or allowing the user to get their funds back if they refuse to answer questions.

I can ask the exchanges outright, but if they lie or change their mind in the future like some did with their ToS then I'd be giving the user a false sense of security.

Well... we've never observed them being non KYC-free to our users. And if they start doing that and the users go through their verification we'll compensate them for their trouble and loss of privacy straight from the exchange' coffers. It's not flawless, but if we only listed exchanges that will never check if your coins are tainted we'd only be able to list one and I suspect it's only a matter of time, before they too are forced to change their business model.

Unfortunately no, because there is no objective standard, just like you say it's entirely subjective. Anecdotally I have reason to believe stolen coins are considered tainted, but coins from DNMs are not, but that's just me connecting the dots from the things I hear, please don't rely on this observation.
Aside from the warning users an exchange might take their funds if they appear tainted we also warn users if an exchange is known to send tainted coins which then cause inconvenience when the user tries to spend them.

I fully agree with you. However so long as Bitcoin's blockchain is transparent it is unavoidable. The only (admittedly partial) solution which comes to mind is the use of Bitcoin's Lightning Network of which I am a strong supported and actually before OrangeFren.com I spent my days creating tools for lnd professionally. For that reason OrangeFren.com does separate comparisons and collects separate rates from Lighting exchanges.


You're right! Thanks for letting me know! I'll go over the post and fix the error.

Thank you! The website actually started off with that idea, however nobody ever used it. Recently I was actually planning on removing that feature entirely.

So the "KYC-free" claim is misleading


I didn't see any warning on the selective scammers I mentioned. It's better to avoid them entirely.

I didn't catch that when you wrote "compensate our users", but after checking the meaning of the word, it turns out "compensate" doesn't mean what I thought it would.

There's a flaw in your Untraceable Bitcoin with Monero: the exchange you use knows exactly which Bitcoin addresses belong to your IP address if you're not using different Tor identities.

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Your Disclaim affiliation is genius:

All of the exchanges listed on OrangeFren.com generally don't require KYC verification. However some check if the coins are tainted and then require SoF verification.
This never happened to any of my users and in the case of exchanges that have a reputation of doing so in the past there's a red warning on OrangeFren.com.
It's unfortunate, but sadly unavoidable if the exchanges constantly require liquidity from the huge CEXes.

The OrangeFren Guarantee does not apply to all exchanges listed. Currently it's only for trades on FixedFloat and eXch. Although I have suggested the service to others too, including the one you mention, they have declined.

I will look into the reports regarding the service you mentioned and probably add a red warning for them too.

Currently we compensate up to 2k USD per trade with FixedFloat and up to 1k USD per trade with eXch. Note that with the exception of an exit-scam our compensation maxes out at 10% so under normal circumstances that's a proportionate compensation for trades up to 20k and 10k respectively.
Our reserves are naturally larger than the per trade maximum.