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Quote from: OrangeFren on January 02, 2025, 08:40:52 AM

We've added a table with exchanges to OrangeFren.com to make it easy to quickly check their features and see their average real-time rates.

Well done on the table and modifications!
I think the home page is better like that, it's clearer and more succinct.

Quote from: OrangeFren on January 03, 2025, 07:55:46 AM

We've added Boltz to OrangeFren.com

Not only do they support the Lightning Network ⚡️, but also the Liquid 💧 and Rootstock sidechains

Boltz uses submarine (atomic) swaps so they're truly non-custodial

Congrats for the new partnership! It's not often we see Liquid proposed somewhere, it's cool!
However I didn't know RSK, I will read about it.

Quote from: OrangeFren on January 03, 2025, 07:41:55 AM

Are there at least any cheap ways of sending USDT? On both ETH and TRX it's quite pricey.

Polygon?

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Some of you may not know this, but we also operate Intercambio.app. It will soon be getting a much overdue upgrade.

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We've added Boltz to OrangeFren.com

Not only do they support the Lightning Network ⚡️, but also the Liquid 💧 and Rootstock sidechains

Boltz uses submarine (atomic) swaps so they're truly non-custodial

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Quote from: dkbit98 on January 02, 2025, 03:13:53 PM

I was never a fan of any stablecoins and I think one of them will be used in the same way as CBDC.
DAI is also backed by USDC and other centralized assets so it's much different from other stable coins, but it's probably harder to freeze assets.
Meanwhile in Tether land we have more and more frozen tokens:
https://decrypt.co/299354/tether-tron-trm-labs-126-million-usdt-frozen-crime

Only five options that never ask for KYC...

Are there at least any cheap ways of sending USDT? On both ETH and TRX it's quite pricey.

Indeed. I imagine the main obstacle is that being fully no-KYC requires a service to have its own liquidity and this is probably a major obstacle for newcomers.

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Quote from: OrangeFren on January 01, 2025, 07:52:36 AM

Yes, we definitely need to attract more stablecoin users. Although the issue with most stablecoins is few are trustworthy. USDT and USDC both have their issues, the first being mostly used on Tron nowadays is problematic too. DAI addresses many of those problems, but few stablecoin users seem to use DAI.

I was never a fan of any stablecoins and I think one of them will be used in the same way as CBDC.
DAI is also backed by USDC and other centralized assets so it's much different from other stable coins, but it's probably harder to freeze assets.
Meanwhile in Tether land we have more and more frozen tokens:
https://decrypt.co/299354/tether-tron-trm-labs-126-million-usdt-frozen-crime

Quote from: OrangeFren on January 02, 2025, 08:40:52 AM

We've added a table with exchanges to OrangeFren.com to make it easy to quickly check their features and see their average real-time rates.

Only five options that never ask for KYC...

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We've added a table with exchanges to OrangeFren.com to make it easy to quickly check their features and see their average real-time rates.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on December 31, 2024, 03:38:58 PM

Year 2024 was definitely the year of Bitcoin and Monero, and I saw similar trend on several other websites that accept crypto payments.
This is probably bigger miracle for monero since most major centralized exchanges delisted XMR, and I don't think any other altcoin would survive this.
I do find it strange that only few people used stable coins on OrangeFren.
I bet most of that ''huge'' $3 worth sats is from custodial LN wallets Tongue

Yes, we definitely need to attract more stablecoin users. Although the issue with most stablecoins is few are trustworthy. USDT and USDC both have their issues, the first being mostly used on Tron nowadays is problematic too. DAI addresses many of those problems, but few stablecoin users seem to use DAI.

I ran the numbers right now to check. Calculated with current exchange rate.
Average payment size: $97
Median payment size: $19

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Quote from: OrangeFren on December 31, 2024, 07:51:24 AM

Recap of 2024 on OrangeFren.com 🗓️

Year 2024 was definitely the year of Bitcoin and Monero, and I saw similar trend on several other websites that accept crypto payments.
This is probably bigger miracle for monero since most major centralized exchanges delisted XMR, and I don't think any other altcoin would survive this.
I do find it strange that only few people used stable coins on OrangeFren.

Quote from: OrangeFren on December 31, 2024, 07:51:24 AM

In 2024 our LN node routed 1101 payments and earned us 3323 sats 🫠

I bet most of that ''huge'' $3 worth sats is from custodial LN wallets Tongue

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Recap of 2024 on OrangeFren.com 🗓️

XMR: 46.67%
BTC: 38.75%
LTC: 6.01%
ETH: 3.44%
USDT: 1.69%
SOL: 0.58%
USDC: 0.46%
BTCLN: 0.46%
BCH: 0.16%
TRX: 0.14%
DAI: 0.12%
XRP: 0.11%
BNB: 0.10%
ZANO: 0.10%

In 2024 we organised meetups in cooperation with:

eXch in Malta🇲🇹, Lisbon🇵🇹, Madrid🇪🇸 and Lugano🇨🇭
AgoraDesk in Buenos Aires🇦🇷 and São Paulo🇧🇷
Cake Wallet in Berlin🇩🇪
WizardSwap in Tbilisi🇬🇪, Nicosia🇨🇾 and Istanbul🇹🇷

We've now done a total of 20 meetups!

In 2024 our LN node routed 1101 payments and earned us 3323 sats 🫠

Most were routed by people who bought a channel from us on amboss.space

We've sold 25 channels this year⚡️

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Quote from: dkbit98 on December 30, 2024, 04:50:17 PM

Didn't he already sold his Bitcoin after April 25 00 ''tax free'' and turned it into inflationary fiat currency?
I think situation is much different if he is holding Bitcoin in his own non-custodial wallet, instead of exchange account or money in bank accounts.

PS
Another lesson learned in life, choose your wife very carefully. Tongue

I hope he does have it in self custody!

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Quote from: OrangeFren on December 30, 2024, 08:00:39 AM

In April we partnered with eXch for a 0.5 BTC giveaway on Reddit's r/CryptoCurrency

The winner is now going through a divorce and worried his wife will take it away Sad

Didn't he already sold his Bitcoin after April 25 00 ''tax free'' and turned it into inflationary fiat currency?
I think situation is much different if he is holding Bitcoin in his own non-custodial wallet, instead of exchange account or money in bank accounts.

PS
Another lesson learned in life, choose your wife very carefully. Tongue

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Quote from: OrangeFren on December 30, 2024, 08:00:39 AM

In April we partnered with eXch for a 0.5 BTC giveaway on Reddit's r/CryptoCurrency

The winner is now going through a divorce and worried his wife will take it away Sad

I feel sorry for the winner.. Undecided

Maybe it's time for him to take a cruise, to relax a little bit.

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In April we partnered with eXch for a 0.5 BTC giveaway on Reddit's r/CryptoCurrency

The winner is now going through a divorce and worried his wife will take it away Sad

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Quote from: OrangeFren on December 25, 2024, 05:38:37 PM

Interesting idea. If you have a website that would benefit from a WS plugin I can build one for you.

As I said, it would be nice to have this option. It would certainly be useful for me to add it to some ideas I'm working on. I also don't think you should do it just for one user, but I don't think I would be the only one who would use such a widget.
I've also seen some solid no-JS solutions (your competitors) in this direction, I certainly wouldn't ignore this.

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Quote from: examplens on December 23, 2024, 08:32:26 AM

I understand the motive with the no-JS widget for affiliate partners, but the iframe is quite old-fashioned and a bad solution in general for many other reasons. Why didn't you make a different approach as well as for example support for popular CMS like WP?
Have you thought about it at all or do you firmly hold the position that the service must be exclusively privacy-oriented?

Interesting idea. If you have a website that would benefit from a WS plugin I can build one for you. There's no rule that a service using our widget must be privacy-oriented.

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I understand the motive with the no-JS widget for affiliate partners, but the iframe is quite old-fashioned and a bad solution in general for many other reasons. Why didn't you make a different approach as well as for example support for popular CMS like WP?
Have you thought about it at all or do you firmly hold the position that the service must be exclusively privacy-oriented?

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Quote from: dkbit98 on December 18, 2024, 09:19:02 AM

Was tor onion version of the website available during this short down time?
I have no idea who would waste money and resources on attacking your service, maybe it was competition or some agencies with unlimited resources.
Having some kind of backup alternative is always a good idea to have.

Yes, our Tor mirror got hit too. It got hit with a separate attack that was aimed only at the Tor mirror.

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Quote from: OrangeFren on December 12, 2024, 06:56:45 AM

We got hit with another DDoS yesterday. Despite being hit with 100 000 requests per minute for hours, our clearnet site was down for just ~10 min.

Was tor onion version of the website available during this short down time?
I have no idea who would waste money and resources on attacking your service, maybe it was competition or some agencies with unlimited resources.
Having some kind of backup alternative is always a good idea to have.

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Quote from: examplens on December 17, 2024, 09:13:47 AM

What are the reasons for DDoS attacks on sites like Orangefren?
Transactions do not go through your site, even if it is maximally slowed down or crashed, the services that the site deals with are still operational. If the excuse is to support something specific like Monero, thousands of other services support it and a site like Orangrefren is just a part of it.

I can't shake the impression that such attacks come from companies that deal with protection against DDoS attacks.

Our friends from WizardSwap.io (who are actually sponsoring our meetup in Istanbul taking place this Friday) are getting DDoSed today.

I think the main reason for the attacks is to scare the people running those websites. You might have built a nice website, but the attackers gets to simply switch it off and you don't know for how long.

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