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Quote from: Mahanton on April 09, 2022, 07:31:43 AM

Wont be surprised if one day there would be some announcement that the said ban would be lift up or would really be decreased or lessen down but still no matter how things been settled where things had already been
done and those impressions of the public or fans overall would be totally on that negative side of things which i could not blame them off.Even though some do say that what if we are on his situation?
Pretty much sure it would really be still a hard decision to be made off but since you are on prestigious event then you dont really have the rights on slapping someone in front of the public or
internationally. Good thing that Rock didnt file any case or something or else that would make his problem even more worst.

They should uphold their decision or they will be a laughing stock, of all the Oscars this is the biggest hit all over the world, it overshadowed everything even the Russian - Ukraine war, it's the first it happen on an awarding night, this incident will haunt Will Smith for the rest of his life, I have total respect to Chris Rock for being so professional and not making it worse, he is still processing what happened because Will Smith is an old friend and getting hit by a friend in front of millions is really hard to process.

On a side note - that incident is selling and they are getting fame and ranking. Which is a success itself.
Chris Rock should be careful too. You are right it is hard to believe and hit by a friend but it is hard to believe the you are mocked by a friend too

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Will Smith's Many speculation that is just a montage, no one is a secret that in Los Angeles and Hollywood have their very murky things and that when they are thrown into the world, it makes their lives pains if you want, some become crazy , others kill them and then they say that they committed suicide, we have the case where some have left unharmed but with certain dismembered things in their lives, such as: Jim Carrey, Keanu Reeves, I would hate Qeu Will Smith starts to go wrong.

Hoolywood is the place of scriptwriting, drama and scandal creation, so I'm surprised that anyone believes that what Will Smith did could be real.
I would be surprised if the Oscars were held without an incident that the whole world would talk about.

This reminds me of what happened in one of the Miss Universe pageants in which supposedly the announcer read the card wrong and announced the wrong winner only to have to correct himself after a few minutes, if I am not mistaken I think that was the first pageant after Trump sold his rights to the organization, so they needed to make an impact and in my opinion this was the way they decided do it, so I see what happened with Smith in the same way.

Yes - that was the blunder -never to be forgotten - - a. moment of happiness for a minute and moment of distress in the other.
This is life, we run for something, power, fame and money and we find everything use less in the other moment, this is the true meaning of life.

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Quote from: Mahanton on April 09, 2022, 07:31:43 AM

Wont be surprised if one day there would be some announcement that the said ban would be lift up or would really be decreased or lessen down but still no matter how things been settled where things had already been
done and those impressions of the public or fans overall would be totally on that negative side of things which i could not blame them off.Even though some do say that what if we are on his situation?
Pretty much sure it would really be still a hard decision to be made off but since you are on prestigious event then you dont really have the rights on slapping someone in front of the public or
internationally. Good thing that Rock didnt file any case or something or else that would make his problem even more worst.

They should uphold their decision or they will be a laughing stock, of all the Oscars this is the biggest hit all over the world, it overshadowed everything even the Russian - Ukraine war, it's the first it happen on an awarding night, this incident will haunt Will Smith for the rest of his life, I have total respect to Chris Rock for being so professional and not making it worse, he is still processing what happened because Will Smith is an old friend and getting hit by a friend in front of millions is really hard to process.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on April 09, 2022, 05:17:04 AM

Quote from: onecall123 on April 09, 2022, 01:00:02 AM

The punishment was calculated appropriately, I believe. If you slap, you get slapped in return. The cycle of life sometimes. It is reasonable to wait 10 years. The first thing that came to mind was that he should not be allowed back. We have zero tolerance for abuse and for ruining everyone's night.

But, Is it wise to constantly add fuel to the fire? Everyone makes mistakes and tempers flare occasionally. How would you have reacted if you were him?

I hope this is a real punishment that will not be lifted in a year or two. And in fact, this whole situation is already very tiring - how much news can you make from one event? It seems that this was the only event at this Oscar ceremony. This ceremony itself is of no interest to anyone anymore.
By the way, judging by the videos that get into social networks, Smith really has big problems in family relationships.

Wont be surprised if one day there would be some announcement that the said ban would be lift up or would really be decreased or lessen down but still no matter how things been settled where things had already been
done and those impressions of the public or fans overall would be totally on that negative side of things which i could not blame them off.Even though some do say that what if we are on his situation?
Pretty much sure it would really be still a hard decision to be made off but since you are on prestigious event then you dont really have the rights on slapping someone in front of the public or
internationally. Good thing that Rock didnt file any case or something or else that would make his problem even more worst.

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Quote from: Saisher on April 08, 2022, 06:45:49 PM

Here is the result of Oscar's board meeting, they are banning Will Smith from attending the ceremony for the next ten years

Actor Will Smith banned from attending Oscars for 10 years

I hope that stops all that nonsense about him slapping Chris was a set up while it was obvious it wasn't to anyone that knows few things about Oscars and Hollywood in general.

Quote from: Saisher on April 08, 2022, 06:45:49 PM

I think it should be a lifetime ban for showing violence around the world, the scene is very traumatic and it sets a bad precedence, he has a lifetime to regret his action and he needs a psychologist because he has an outburst of anger that he could not control.

Let's not overdo it, I would say that 10 year ban is appropriate and in the end he done enough damage to himself and his career.

Quote from: Saisher on April 08, 2022, 06:45:49 PM

How would you have reacted if you were him?

I don't know if you watched the Oscars, but he was laughing at the Rock's joke at first and only after he saw his wife's face he changed his mood. And hosts roasting the actors in the audience is standard practice on these ceremonies.

Quote from: STT on April 08, 2022, 06:53:14 PM

Where is the bet I can place and odds to see Will Smith win another award within a decade.

I wouldn't be so sure. Movie studios already starter delaying his movies (Bad Boys 4) and I don't see him recovering from this fast. After all, it's not like he won bunch of awards before (at least not the ones that reallyu matter) and that he will just continue with business as usual.

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Quote from: onecall123 on April 09, 2022, 01:00:02 AM

The punishment was calculated appropriately, I believe. If you slap, you get slapped in return. The cycle of life sometimes. It is reasonable to wait 10 years. The first thing that came to mind was that he should not be allowed back. We have zero tolerance for abuse and for ruining everyone's night.

But, Is it wise to constantly add fuel to the fire? Everyone makes mistakes and tempers flare occasionally. How would you have reacted if you were him?

I hope this is a real punishment that will not be lifted in a year or two. And in fact, this whole situation is already very tiring - how much news can you make from one event? It seems that this was the only event at this Oscar ceremony. This ceremony itself is of no interest to anyone anymore.
By the way, judging by the videos that get into social networks, Smith really has big problems in family relationships.

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Quote from: onecall123 on April 09, 2022, 01:00:02 AM

Quote from: Saisher on April 08, 2022, 06:45:49 PM

Here is the result of Oscar's board meeting, they are banning Will Smith from attending the ceremony for the next ten years

Actor Will Smith banned from attending Oscars for 10 years

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"The Board has decided, for a period of 10 years from April 8, 2022, Mr. Smith shall not be permitted to attend any Academy events or programs, in person or virtually, including but not limited to the Academy Awards," Academy President David Rubin and CEO Dawn Hudson said in a statement on Friday.

I think it should be a lifetime ban for showing violence around the world, the scene is very traumatic and it sets a bad precedence, he has a lifetime to regret his action and he needs a psychologist because he has an outburst of anger that he could not control.

The punishment was calculated appropriately, I believe. If you slap, you get slapped in return. The cycle of life sometimes. It is reasonable to wait 10 years. The first thing that came to mind was that he should not be allowed back. We have zero tolerance for abuse and for ruining everyone's night.

But, Is it wise to constantly add fuel to the fire? Everyone makes mistakes and tempers flare occasionally. How would you have reacted if you were him?

Are you talking about Will Smith a civilized person will just talk to Chris Rock and stop him from talking about his wife, and Chris will understand it or don't laugh it will hurt the comedian if you are not laughing at their joke, what Will Smith did traumatize millions of people one of them is Ellen DeGeneres a talk show host.
The Oscars has become a platfrom of violence because of what Will Smith did.

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Quote from: onecall123 on April 09, 2022, 01:00:02 AM

Quote from: Saisher on April 08, 2022, 06:45:49 PM

Here is the result of Oscar's board meeting, they are banning Will Smith from attending the ceremony for the next ten years

Actor Will Smith banned from attending Oscars for 10 years

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"The Board has decided, for a period of 10 years from April 8, 2022, Mr. Smith shall not be permitted to attend any Academy events or programs, in person or virtually, including but not limited to the Academy Awards," Academy President David Rubin and CEO Dawn Hudson said in a statement on Friday.

I think it should be a lifetime ban for showing violence around the world, the scene is very traumatic and it sets a bad precedence, he has a lifetime to regret his action and he needs a psychologist because he has an outburst of anger that he could not control.

But, Is it wise to constantly add fuel to the fire? Everyone makes mistakes and tempers flare occasionally. How would you have reacted if you were him?

Surely he was provoked but he didn't act like a civilized man to go hit Chris on stage where the world was watching. To hold back temper and not to go physical would have made him run away from this 10 years ban that I think is too much for Will Smith. That means it might affect his career and his works may not be nominated at the Oscar for that same period. In fact Smith would have chosen to go to court charge Chris for seditious libel against his wife rather the part he choose to show he is manly against Chris and taken his career 10 years backwards.

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Quote from: Saisher on April 08, 2022, 06:45:49 PM

Here is the result of Oscar's board meeting, they are banning Will Smith from attending the ceremony for the next ten years

Actor Will Smith banned from attending Oscars for 10 years

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"The Board has decided, for a period of 10 years from April 8, 2022, Mr. Smith shall not be permitted to attend any Academy events or programs, in person or virtually, including but not limited to the Academy Awards," Academy President David Rubin and CEO Dawn Hudson said in a statement on Friday.

I think it should be a lifetime ban for showing violence around the world, the scene is very traumatic and it sets a bad precedence, he has a lifetime to regret his action and he needs a psychologist because he has an outburst of anger that he could not control.

The punishment was calculated appropriately, I believe. If you slap, you get slapped in return. The cycle of life sometimes. It is reasonable to wait 10 years. The first thing that came to mind was that he should not be allowed back. We have zero tolerance for abuse and for ruining everyone's night.

But, Is it wise to constantly add fuel to the fire? Everyone makes mistakes and tempers flare occasionally. How would you have reacted if you were him?

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He could control because it was just a slap, poorly judged action perhaps but hardly worthy of any great criticism. 10 years only hurts him because I presume it means he cannot be a winner either which to me is not right but maybe Im wrong and he can still win just not collect in person an award. I get they have to disapprove of his actions, clearly but it was hardly an escalatory action. I dont see why comedy became about insulting people for things they cannot change and the joke wasnt even funny.
Where is the bet I can place and odds to see Will Smith win another award within a decade. Surely I can get 500 to 1 on such a thing unless its specifically stated as impossible.

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Here is the result of Oscar's board meeting, they are banning Will Smith from attending the ceremony for the next ten years

Actor Will Smith banned from attending Oscars for 10 years

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"The Board has decided, for a period of 10 years from April 8, 2022, Mr. Smith shall not be permitted to attend any Academy events or programs, in person or virtually, including but not limited to the Academy Awards," Academy President David Rubin and CEO Dawn Hudson said in a statement on Friday.

I think it should be a lifetime ban for showing violence around the world, the scene is very traumatic and it sets a bad precedence, he has a lifetime to regret his action and he needs a psychologist because he has an outburst of anger that he could not control.

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^^ Thats why he is not hurt in the end just like Chris Rock can handle a simple slap, I think he is ok and everyone was an adult its not that a big deal however upsetting for a moment, impolite etc.

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it could be the end of his career

Its a million dollar mistake, put it that way if you like but also consider for a kid from a comedy tv show he done good already and he already had more money then he will need for the rest of his life. Its not really a loss, he'll miss a project opportunity but actors lose out on chances just because of their accent or a multitude of factors. No way could it end his career, not when you consider the diabolical failings in other actors. Robert Downey junior for example broke into a families house and fell asleep on the floor of a childs bedroom, he recovered from the epic mistakes he made.

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I saw a youtube speculating that the slap is just staged, because they say that no one is watching Oscars anymore, and after that slap, here's what happened.

Oscars audience grew by 555,000 after Will Smith slapped Chris Rock.

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The Oscars audience swelled by more than half a million people on Sunday shortly after Will Smith slapped Chris Rock, capping the awards show with a late-night surge.

At 10:27 p.m., Mr. Smith attacked Mr. Rock after the comedian delivered a joke onstage about Mr. Smith’s wife, Jada Pinkett Smith. Nearly 17.4 million viewers were watching in the minutes after the slap, up from 16.8 million shortly before it, according to Nielsen data released by ABC.

If the speculation is right, then congratulations to them as they did a great job on acting.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on April 06, 2022, 01:08:51 PM

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on April 05, 2022, 04:48:27 PM

Why sorry? You didn't do anything bad bruh, it was will smith that acted sour. Self control is a must especially on this kind of place or event because it was Oscars, it's prestigious. It's okay to become aggressive but it must be done only on right places, like in the backstage where no camera is present and no crowd is watching.

It's not surprising if everyone is betting on will smith because the guy is a good actor but I can't believe that its only the first time where he won an award? the same thing happens with leonardo de caprio, despite of his good acting skills, he rarely won an award. What smith did in the Oscars is really shocking, no one expected that.

Valid point that should have been done at the back stage where there are no camera and no crowd is watching. But how would the incident get fame?
I believe that is to gain following and nothing else.
HAd that had happened at the backstage. No One would have learnt that it had happened.

I believe back stage could have cameras, it was an Oscar and anything would have been a news item. Even if the cameras didn't pick it back stage but it would have appeared somehow to the public as rumour maybe leaving the public to run a guess and doubt on it. Well it was in public , Smith went really below the belt for someone of his pedigree. He is lucky Chris is not filing a case against him.

Valid point - be it on stage or off stage on stage one should abstain from indulging in such kind of aggressive act. WS appeared to be a Macho. A real macho who made his struggle a matter of debate for his silly act. One should have a strong self control - hence proved!

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Quote from: og kush420 on April 06, 2022, 12:44:34 PM

Quote from: TheGreatPython on April 05, 2022, 04:48:27 PM

Why sorry? You didn't do anything bad bruh, it was will smith that acted sour. Self control is a must especially on this kind of place or event because it was Oscars, it's prestigious. It's okay to become aggressive but it must be done only on right places, like in the backstage where no camera is present and no crowd is watching.

It's not surprising if everyone is betting on will smith because the guy is a good actor but I can't believe that its only the first time where he won an award? the same thing happens with leonardo de caprio, despite of his good acting skills, he rarely won an award. What smith did in the Oscars is really shocking, no one expected that.

Valid point that should have been done at the back stage where there are no camera and no crowd is watching. But how would the incident get fame?
I believe that is to gain following and nothing else.
HAd that had happened at the backstage. No One would have learnt that it had happened.

I believe back stage could have cameras, it was an Oscar and anything would have been a news item. Even if the cameras didn't pick it back stage but it would have appeared somehow to the public as rumour maybe leaving the public to run a guess and doubt on it. Well it was in public , Smith went really below the belt for someone of his pedigree. He is lucky Chris is not filing a case against him.

Whether there's a camera or not on the backstage but he should'nt have done that in the first place.It is truly below the belt on such kind of behavior that he had shown on a prestigious event.
He should have controlled his temper even though that joke turns out to be that offensive for his part but its not really truly a behavior of a true professional.
There would be no problems if he had just let it pass away but well we do have different level of tolerance which we could not really stop on some point or scenario.

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Quote from: og kush420 on April 06, 2022, 12:44:34 PM

Quote from: TheGreatPython on April 05, 2022, 04:48:27 PM

Why sorry? You didn't do anything bad bruh, it was will smith that acted sour. Self control is a must especially on this kind of place or event because it was Oscars, it's prestigious. It's okay to become aggressive but it must be done only on right places, like in the backstage where no camera is present and no crowd is watching.

It's not surprising if everyone is betting on will smith because the guy is a good actor but I can't believe that its only the first time where he won an award? the same thing happens with leonardo de caprio, despite of his good acting skills, he rarely won an award. What smith did in the Oscars is really shocking, no one expected that.

Valid point that should have been done at the back stage where there are no camera and no crowd is watching. But how would the incident get fame?
I believe that is to gain following and nothing else.
HAd that had happened at the backstage. No One would have learnt that it had happened.

I believe back stage could have cameras, it was an Oscar and anything would have been a news item. Even if the cameras didn't pick it back stage but it would have appeared somehow to the public as rumour maybe leaving the public to run a guess and doubt on it. Well it was in public , Smith went really below the belt for someone of his pedigree. He is lucky Chris is not filing a case against him.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on April 05, 2022, 04:48:27 PM

Why sorry? You didn't do anything bad bruh, it was will smith that acted sour. Self control is a must especially on this kind of place or event because it was Oscars, it's prestigious. It's okay to become aggressive but it must be done only on right places, like in the backstage where no camera is present and no crowd is watching.

It's not surprising if everyone is betting on will smith because the guy is a good actor but I can't believe that its only the first time where he won an award? the same thing happens with leonardo de caprio, despite of his good acting skills, he rarely won an award. What smith did in the Oscars is really shocking, no one expected that.

Valid point that should have been done at the back stage where there are no camera and no crowd is watching. But how would the incident get fame?
I believe that is to gain following and nothing else.
HAd that had happened at the backstage. No One would have learnt that it had happened.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on April 05, 2022, 04:48:27 PM

Why sorry? You didn't do anything bad bruh, it was will smith that acted sour. Self control is a must especially on this kind of place or event because it was Oscars, it's prestigious. It's okay to become aggressive but it must be done only on right places, like in the backstage where no camera is present and no crowd is watching.

It's not surprising if everyone is betting on will smith because the guy is a good actor but I can't believe that its only the first time where he won an award? the same thing happens with leonardo de caprio, despite of his good acting skills, he rarely won an award. What smith did in the Oscars is really shocking, no one expected that.

His winning the best actor is forgettable it should be the best moment of his life but what happens is people are disgusted with what he had done, he already offered apologies and resigned from Oscar, and many of his projects are shelved it could be the end of his career what could be the start of another milestone for his career ended because of his out of control behavior I wonder what would be the next set up in the next Oscar after this incident.

Jada Pinkett Smith ‘Wishes’ Will Smith Didn’t Slap Chris Rock at Oscars, They Agree He ‘Overreacted’
Source: https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jada-pinkett-smith-wishes-will-smith-didnt-slap-chris-rock/

He shouldnt have done that even his wife do sees the same.Now he had put up himself on big problem.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on April 05, 2022, 04:48:27 PM

Why sorry? You didn't do anything bad bruh, it was will smith that acted sour. Self control is a must especially on this kind of place or event because it was Oscars, it's prestigious. It's okay to become aggressive but it must be done only on right places, like in the backstage where no camera is present and no crowd is watching.

It's not surprising if everyone is betting on will smith because the guy is a good actor but I can't believe that its only the first time where he won an award? the same thing happens with leonardo de caprio, despite of his good acting skills, he rarely won an award. What smith did in the Oscars is really shocking, no one expected that.

His winning the best actor is forgettable it should be the best moment of his life but what happens is people are disgusted with what he had done, he already offered apologies and resigned from Oscar, and many of his projects are shelved it could be the end of his career what could be the start of another milestone for his career ended because of his out of control behavior I wonder what would be the next set up in the next Oscar after this incident.

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Quote from: Theones on April 05, 2022, 01:11:52 PM

Quote from: aioc on April 05, 2022, 08:57:22 AM

Based on his recent posts he is very sorry for what he did some of his projects are on hold like the Bad Guys movie and the one with Netflix he also resigned from the Oscars, the incident di Will Smith more harm than Chris Rock, he is exposed as a violent mind nobody wants to be associated with Will Smith right now, the man is wrecked, there's a lot of jokes right now about Will Smith.

So sorry for what has happened. It is better to have a self control rather than be having aggressive.
Will Smith won the award for the first time in his life and before Oscar everyone was betting on Will Smith but after Oscar everyone was shocked for what has happened.

Why sorry? You didn't do anything bad bruh, it was will smith that acted sour. Self control is a must especially on this kind of place or event because it was Oscars, it's prestigious. It's okay to become aggressive but it must be done only on right places, like in the backstage where no camera is present and no crowd is watching.

It's not surprising if everyone is betting on will smith because the guy is a good actor but I can't believe that its only the first time where he won an award? the same thing happens with leonardo de caprio, despite of his good acting skills, he rarely won an award. What smith did in the Oscars is really shocking, no one expected that.

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