Our country was called Province of China.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on August 30, 2020, 08:57:27 AM

Quote from: blockman on August 29, 2020, 06:06:58 PM

The other countries which loaned money from China got into debt trap meaning, they have to give favor to China by building infrastructures and letting them own a portion of their land or if not owned, allowing them to operate based from the likes of their rule. Those debts will be entirely paid for a long time through the next generations.

Always remember China, copying, modifying, innovating. Copying was once a necessity in China, but from this habit of imitating China became superior. Remember imitating not following. China prefers to bind many countries through OBOR with long-term infrastructure investments with the aim of binding those countries together. China doesn't want to make the mistakes that the United States did in the 90s. America moved much of its manufacturing to China and exploited cheap, skilled Chinese labor, without tying China up, so China broke free and is now a trade competitor to the United States.

As long as a product can be modified, it will innovate it until it becomes another product. In that way, it makes China have more power and have a lot of manufacturers across the world. Most of the products existed are made of china and no one in Asia can compete on them.

Quote from: carriebee on September 04, 2020, 11:15:37 AM

I’ve heard this news that China called Philippines as their province. This is disrespectful to many Filipino citizens and it's obvious that our President is close to China’s President. Although the President of the Philippines is building a good camaraderie to China since there's a huge debt to them. This is really debatable issue even others that have positioned in the government doesn't have an actions yet to what was happened.

China's president is obviously using our president to make an easy pathway of conquering our country. So disrespectful but no one in the higher officials react into this, only the local government reacts and done a good job of deporting those manufacturers back to china.

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I’ve heard this news that China called Philippines as their province. This is disrespectful to many Filipino citizens and it's obvious that our President is close to China’s President. Although the President of the Philippines is building a good camaraderie to China since there's a huge debt to them. This is really debatable issue even others that have positioned in the government doesn't have an actions yet to what was happened.

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This is so disgusting. Shame on China to call and claimed Manila as one of their provinces. It is just right that the Mayor in Manila made a lot of investigations about the said chinese company and banned their business to operate here. They've really done so much illegal businesses and unreasonable claims in our country, after making us all fallen in their trap. I wonder why the highest leaders are still continuing the old friendship we had with China where after all, i guess we Filipinos can absolutely live up and restore our economy without them. If i were only them, I will never get in touch nor engaged my country to anything with this deceitful Chinese and will definitely send them all back to their homeland. But sadly, its impossible. For we already had big debts from China and with our entire life since the old age, we are using their products day and night and we can't deny it.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on August 30, 2020, 08:57:27 AM

Debt Trap is not only carried out by China but also by the IMF, world banks and other financial institutions. Dollar & IMF is a dynamic duo, coupled with import habits and dependence on causing a country to become increasingly entangled in debt. OBOR is the 5.0 colonial flag offered by China, namely development without significant growth which actually benefits China because OBOR partner countries have to pay tribute to China. So statesmen must think about instruments so that they do not fall under the IMF or OBOR, aka becoming a sovereign country.

Debt traps are everywhere, not only countries and institutions are offered that trap but every single person around the world and unfortunately people keep falling in it all the time, personally I have been offered many credit cars in the past and I have always rejected the offers as I know that the bank will not be offering them unless they stood to gain something from it and when you add that I have seen the lives of many people ruined by debt then it makes sense I avoid it, and yet countries do not seem to be able to apply such simple experiences to the way they govern their people when it will be the citizens the ones to suffer because of this.

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That actually really sucks but feels good to know that people behind this scheme got deported to their mainland. It was really a low-blow for the people living beside their own houses because they know that they are still living in Manila, Philippines and not as a province of China. I hope that the government takes it seriously since Manila is located on where Malacañang is placed. Its an obvious disrespect to the government but its a good call by the Mayor of Manila to deport them.

Philippines is surely gonna take more hits starting from now and that will really be reflected on the economical status of the country. People are tired of waiting of a plan that was made by other countries possible to mitigate the effects of the Corona Virus but sadly, Philippines's government really sucks to take actions.

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Quote from: finaleshot2016 on August 20, 2020, 12:52:39 PM

News is that the beauty company of China listed the Philippines as one of its provinces (see picture above), which is a major disrespect and insult to us. After China has claimed some of our islands even we won at the international court Undecided

, news that we are a province of China is spreading around our country.

Lately I am not not updated to the news. I really don't the reason why Manila Mayor said that he was not a Governor of China, he is the mayor of Manila Philippines but upon reading this topic I guess this is the reason. I've conducted my research and yes my conclusion is correct.
Link : https://mobile.twitter.com/iskomoreno/status/1296395730169425923
Another news from manila.gov.ph, Mayor also said that Manila has never been a part of China.
During the current time, we all know how powerful China is. I am also not hearing any positive cases from them. So I think abobe us all they have the good economic flow. They have alot of money to lend. Sometimes I want to believe that this virus is truely the weapon of China not only to US but to the world. Due to that, they will be most powerful country and can take what they want.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 30, 2020, 08:17:24 AM

Quote from: dondonk on August 30, 2020, 03:16:54 AM

I think it might be a typo, because according to the label, the product is indeed made in China, and is manufactured for Elegant Fumes Beauty Products Inc. located in Manila. I don't deny the money trap. but if the context is the product label, there may be a need for an explanation from the company.

It looks like an unintentional typo. But at the same time, for products which are meant to be exported outside China, they should be more careful about the labeling. They can give excuses such as lack of English knowledge of the staff, but this is not going to go well in the Philippines. Just a few months back, both the nations had a small skirmish in the South China sea.

Geography is basic, so I believed it’s intentional and its no excuse glad that the mayor of the city shutdown the business immediately after the disrespectful violation also some believe that the particular business is illegal which also goes under investigation.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on August 30, 2020, 05:08:22 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 30, 2020, 08:17:24 AM

Quote from: dondonk on August 30, 2020, 03:16:54 AM

I think it might be a typo, because according to the label, the product is indeed made in China, and is manufactured for Elegant Fumes Beauty Products Inc. located in Manila. I don't deny the money trap. but if the context is the product label, there may be a need for an explanation from the company.

It looks like an unintentional typo. But at the same time, for products which are meant to be exported outside China, they should be more careful about the labeling. They can give excuses such as lack of English knowledge of the staff, but this is not going to go well in the Philippines. Just a few months back, both the nations had a small skirmish in the South China sea.

Well, unintentional or intentional these products did not went to the correct process and that is why it is so great that the Mayor of Manila, Mayor Isko, closed down the stores selling them and making them though we doesn't know if these stores knew that to start with. We are still in pandemic and I think we should focus on that right now. We are breaking records of cases.

Because if this company get their necessary permits and licenses, they will not release the mislabeled packaging. Because it will be corrected by the government authority. It is good that it has been exposed as I believe there are a lot of these companies that are intentionally having that kind of label to mislead people. And also, they are operating their business without paying necessary taxes as they don't have the permits in the first place.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 30, 2020, 08:17:24 AM

Quote from: dondonk on August 30, 2020, 03:16:54 AM

I think it might be a typo, because according to the label, the product is indeed made in China, and is manufactured for Elegant Fumes Beauty Products Inc. located in Manila. I don't deny the money trap. but if the context is the product label, there may be a need for an explanation from the company.

It looks like an unintentional typo. But at the same time, for products which are meant to be exported outside China, they should be more careful about the labeling. They can give excuses such as lack of English knowledge of the staff, but this is not going to go well in the Philippines. Just a few months back, both the nations had a small skirmish in the South China sea.

Well, unintentional or intentional these products did not went to the correct process and that is why it is so great that the Mayor of Manila, Mayor Isko, closed down the stores selling them and making them though we doesn't know if these stores knew that to start with. We are still in pandemic and I think we should focus on that right now. We are breaking records of cases.

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Quote from: blockman on August 29, 2020, 06:06:58 PM

The other countries which loaned money from China got into debt trap meaning, they have to give favor to China by building infrastructures and letting them own a portion of their land or if not owned, allowing them to operate based from the likes of their rule. Those debts will be entirely paid for a long time through the next generations.

Always remember China, copying, modifying, innovating. Copying was once a necessity in China, but from this habit of imitating China became superior. Remember imitating not following. China prefers to bind many countries through OBOR with long-term infrastructure investments with the aim of binding those countries together. China doesn't want to make the mistakes that the United States did in the 90s. America moved much of its manufacturing to China and exploited cheap, skilled Chinese labor, without tying China up, so China broke free and is now a trade competitor to the United States.

Debt Trap is not only carried out by China but also by the IMF, world banks and other financial institutions. Dollar & IMF is a dynamic duo, coupled with import habits and dependence on causing a country to become increasingly entangled in debt. OBOR is the 5.0 colonial flag offered by China, namely development without significant growth which actually benefits China because OBOR partner countries have to pay tribute to China. So statesmen must think about instruments so that they do not fall under the IMF or OBOR, aka becoming a sovereign country.

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Quote from: dondonk on August 30, 2020, 03:16:54 AM

I think it might be a typo, because according to the label, the product is indeed made in China, and is manufactured for Elegant Fumes Beauty Products Inc. located in Manila. I don't deny the money trap. but if the context is the product label, there may be a need for an explanation from the company.

It looks like an unintentional typo. But at the same time, for products which are meant to be exported outside China, they should be more careful about the labeling. They can give excuses such as lack of English knowledge of the staff, but this is not going to go well in the Philippines. Just a few months back, both the nations had a small skirmish in the South China sea.

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I think it might be a typo, because according to the label, the product is indeed made in China, and is manufactured for Elegant Fumes Beauty Products Inc. located in Manila. I don't deny the money trap. but if the context is the product label, there may be a need for an explanation from the company.

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Quote from: ultrloa on August 26, 2020, 06:55:08 PM

Quote from: blockman on August 26, 2020, 04:58:18 PM

I'm pro government also but I'm not against with those debt came from china as long as we can pay those debts there's nothing to worry about the debt trap. And those trappings will happen if corrupt officials will sit on the position since for sure they will not care about paying the debts and they will care to fill there own pockets.

The other countries which loaned money from China got into debt trap meaning, they have to give favor to China by building infrastructures and letting them own a portion of their land or if not owned, allowing them to operate based from the likes of their rule. Those debts will be entirely paid for a long time through the next generations.

Quote from: ultrloa on August 26, 2020, 06:55:08 PM

Quote from: blockman on August 26, 2020, 04:58:18 PM

It's true and that's sad reality, Its a fault of the past administration that they didn't even look to improve the machinery for national defense and the only thing we can do for now is to settle all things and became friendly to other nation especially to china. Hopefully on next election we can elect a strong leader that will focus on this issue and improve our defense and in economic aspects.

I don't want to play the blame game. I'm not red or yellow and like the both us, we do support whichever is on the sit because we can't do anything against it but just to support the good things that they do. There are also arguments that we can be against with but we will never be heard from that. I'm also leaning for the next election but I'm not blind with the accomplishments of the administration and its past administrations.

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Quote from: dothebeats on August 20, 2020, 02:08:21 PM

I already saw this happening from miles away. The president of the Philippines has long been associating itself closely with China, and has even asked for lots of loans to fund for their infrastructure and development project. While the project in itself isn't an issue, the debt and whom it came from is. The Chinese has long been notorious in setting up debt traps on developing nations to gain quite a sizable share of the natural resources of a country, or even some part of the nation's land in order to use it for their own gain. This can be considered as conquering other countries through means of non-violent actions, in this case debt traps. I will not be surprised if the Philippines will be under the said situation in a few years time given that the current president isn't really doing anything right in regards to this matter.

Heck, you still have lots of corruption scandals in recent times in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic.

While I agree at the same time this was to be expected, this is why I personally avoid debt as much as possible because whoever you owe owns you, after all it is obvious that the Chinese government is going to set up very favorable conditions in order to give those loans, they are not going to give money to anyone unless they win in whichever case it comes to happen, if they are repaid the loan then they're happy because they earned some money but if they are not repaid the loan then those countries will have to suffer the penalties imposed by China and the worst part is that all of that will be legal because they signed that contract specifying the conditions of what will happen if they default the loan.

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Quote from: plr on August 26, 2020, 12:20:29 PM

The Philippine government should pass a law to immediately deport Chinese who will do that, they should also require Chinese that will enter the Philippines to take a quiz so they will know that Philippines is a sovereign country and should not be treated a province of any country.

I honestly doubt the government can do that, we are so buried in debt and they don't want a heated argument with China. Have you notice that Chinese people here are sometimes more privilege than the local ones. Even the case of Pogo's continuing despite the pandemic. Its very visible that the government are now friendly with China cause they already talked about this. They can't show their fangs today even though they promise it during elections. We should always voice out our opinion about this dispute, cause if we citizens stop voicing out, I'm sure owning the country will be very easy.

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In my opinion, china will always be a bully in many ways, always wants to own everything they like and interested with like islands, natural resources even country they want to conquer special mention to Philippines. They always act they are above all, that's why they are very confident to do this stuff within the terrority of Philippines. This issue was already solved and the business store was already closed down by the manila mayor and that's the good news for it.

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Quote from: blockman on August 26, 2020, 04:58:18 PM

I'm worried about the China debt trap. I'm always a pro-government as I have nothing to do with it but support whoever is in the administration. But this starts to give worry for most people just like me whether I support them or not. Our country can't do anything on it as it's been said by the president that we can't go on war against China.

Quote from: plr on August 26, 2020, 12:20:29 PM

The Philippine government should pass a law to immediately deport Chinese who will do that, they should also require Chinese that will enter the Philippines to take a quiz so they will know that Philippines is a sovereign country and should not be treated a province of any country.

Our government is being attacked as well by the opposite party. Since the new administration started, there were too many diversed attacks through media just to make the current admin as bad. Welp, they don't have to do it now as we're seeing it in our eyes that we can't do anything against China. But this labelling of the product could also be another diverse attack.

Well, it happens every time if there's a thing that must be call out because of incompetency, then they should face those attacks. Also, normal citizens are also hoping for the government to be competent in situations such as pandemic because many are not in favor of the current administration's decision for the country.

The idea is good but it is not that easy since the current leader is trying to make friends with China.

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Quote from: lienfaye on August 26, 2020, 11:22:53 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on August 26, 2020, 08:15:51 PM

"To me that’s nonsense. We should not be paying any attention to that" this is what he said: =https://mb.com.ph/2020/08/20/ph-a-province-of-china-nonsense-says-roque/LINK (Warning not english).

What can we expect? The current administration are friend of china.
Its not surprising to see them ignoring or not making it a big deal.
Even our own islands are invading by chinese, it seems fine to them.
Different from what the president said when he is still running for that position.

China is trying to invade everyone around its borders, it have already acquired Tibet and was going towards India in the past month but that conflict is still going on and there is still no result of that conflict. Nepal is now supporting China in its actions on India and it even passed a conflicted map that was acquiring the area of the Indian territory in the Nepal region. So, this has been the policy of china from a very long time to acquire the neighbouring lands and always having border conflicts here and there, they don't even want Hong Kong to become a separate country for which its youth is protesting from a very long period of time.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on August 26, 2020, 08:15:51 PM

"To me that’s nonsense. We should not be paying any attention to that" this is what he said: =https://mb.com.ph/2020/08/20/ph-a-province-of-china-nonsense-says-roque/LINK (Warning not english).

What can we expect? The current administration are friend of china.
Its not surprising to see them ignoring or not making it a big deal.
Even our own islands are invading by chinese, it seems fine to them.
Different from what the president said when he is still running for that position.

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Days before the Presidential Spokesperson share the president's thoughts about this incident, I predicted already what they will say and it is true Cheesy

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"To me that’s nonsense. We should not be paying any attention to that" this is what he said: =https://mb.com.ph/2020/08/20/ph-a-province-of-china-nonsense-says-roque/LINK (Warning not english).

We mustn't get any attention to these kind of shitty things being done by the Chinese to us. We know already that we aren't a province of China. They can get other countries like Hongkong and even Taiwan but not PH.

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