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legendary
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August 26, 2020, 06:55:08 PM
#90
I'm worried about the China debt trap. I'm always a pro-government as I have nothing to do with it but support whoever is in the administration. But this starts to give worry for most people just like me whether I support them or not.

I'm pro government also but I'm not against with those debt came from china as long as we can pay those debts there's nothing to worry about the debt trap. And those trappings will happen if corrupt officials will sit on the position since for sure they will not care about paying the debts and they will care to fill there own pockets.


Our country can't do anything on it as it's been said by the president that we can't go on war against China.

It's true and that's sad reality, Its a fault of the past administration that they didn't even look to improve the machinery for national defense and the only thing we can do for now is to settle all things and became friendly to other nation especially to china. Hopefully on next election we can elect a strong leader that will focus on this issue and improve our defense and in economic aspects.
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August 26, 2020, 04:58:18 PM
#89
I'm worried about the China debt trap. I'm always a pro-government as I have nothing to do with it but support whoever is in the administration. But this starts to give worry for most people just like me whether I support them or not. Our country can't do anything on it as it's been said by the president that we can't go on war against China.

The Philippine government should pass a law to immediately deport Chinese who will do that, they should also require Chinese that will enter the Philippines to take a quiz so they will know that Philippines is a sovereign country and should not be treated a province of any country.
Our government is being attacked as well by the opposite party. Since the new administration started, there were too many diversed attacks through media just to make the current admin as bad. Welp, they don't have to do it now as we're seeing it in our eyes that we can't do anything against China. But this labelling of the product could also be another diverse attack.
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August 26, 2020, 01:33:29 PM
#88
The Philippine government should pass a law to immediately deport Chinese who will do that, they should also require Chinese that will enter the Philippines to take a quiz so they will know that Philippines is a sovereign country and should not be treated a province of any country.
They should know where they are and belong, we can't deny that many businesses are owned by Chinese that makes them think this way but it's not enough to let them publish things just because they want or own what is not from them. The locals should avoid using the products they produce, locals better support the locals first before the other nation to not be treated this way. Fipinos should learn from this issue to strive harder in life to be the owner of a company or not a forever worker of other nation.

Not buying thier products is not possible. All products in the world are made in China even the phones and computers you are using today are made in China.

I wouldn't be upset if what they claim is not true though. Its not china that claimed Philippines as their province but just the companies owned by Filipinos too. History says that China had been owning places in the Philippines long before the Spanish came here but they didn't resist when Spain colonized Philipines.

Yeah all of their products are already on the whole world, and even hardware that is commonly used came from them. China has a lot and good manufacturers in the electronics industry so I doubt that we can avoid their products, even west countries are buying some hardware from China.

Chinese people are very brilliant, they are good at innovating and remodelling things to make another one that can be a trend in the market. According to WIPO, they have a lot of patents recently because of their innovations so definitely all of the markets existing in the world have Chinese products.
legendary
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August 26, 2020, 01:11:49 PM
#87
The Philippine government should pass a law to immediately deport Chinese who will do that, they should also require Chinese that will enter the Philippines to take a quiz so they will know that Philippines is a sovereign country and should not be treated a province of any country.
They should know where they are and belong, we can't deny that many businesses are owned by Chinese that makes them think this way but it's not enough to let them publish things just because they want or own what is not from them. The locals should avoid using the products they produce, locals better support the locals first before the other nation to not be treated this way. Fipinos should learn from this issue to strive harder in life to be the owner of a company or not a forever worker of other nation.

Not buying thier products is not possible. All products in the world are made in China even the phones and computers you are using today are made in China.

I wouldn't be upset if what they claim is not true though. Its not china that claimed Philippines as their province but just the companies owned by FIlipinos too. History says that China had been owning places in the Philippines long before the Spanish came here but they didn't resist when Spain colonized Philipines.
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Dimon69
August 26, 2020, 12:36:43 PM
#86
The Philippine government should pass a law to immediately deport Chinese who will do that, they should also require Chinese that will enter the Philippines to take a quiz so they will know that Philippines is a sovereign country and should not be treated a province of any country.
They should know where they are and belong, we can't deny that many businesses are owned by Chinese that makes them think this way but it's not enough to let them publish things just because they want or own what is not from them. The locals should avoid using the products they produce, locals better support the locals first before the other nation to not be treated this way. Fipinos should learn from this issue to strive harder in life to be the owner of a company or not a forever worker of other nation.
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August 26, 2020, 12:20:29 PM
#85



This is where it starts and soon, we will see more products from China that labels the Philippines as a Province of China.

The Philippine government should pass a law to immediately deport Chinese who will do that, they should also require Chinese that will enter the Philippines to take a quiz so they will know that Philippines is a sovereign country and should not be treated a province of any country.
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August 26, 2020, 11:54:31 AM
#84
Even though I am not a citizen of the Philippines, I am very much against what the company of China has done.
In fact, it is only natural for a country with a good economy like China to lend money to other countries that need it.
But the problem is when the countries that are given loans have difficulty paying and China has the power to control
some of them territory of the country. I am sure the Philippine government will do everything it can to protect its
country from the money traps that have been made by China.
sr. member
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August 26, 2020, 07:46:05 AM
#83
So you can't pay your debt let us handle some part of your country.

As a country that cannot pay a large amount all the things they need are to allow them.

As far as I know, we have a comment about this on the government.

It goes like our country will never fall to this trick by China. As far as I know, that is a financial officer and that means they knew about it and they have a way to go against it. I don't think that our government is that stupid to make a loan without thinking about the consequences of it, they even made a statement about it means they are ready for it.

Edit : https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/05/11/19/ph-will-never-fall-into-china-debt-trap-says-finance-officials
Our debts are well diversified and China will never invade our country because our people are awake and the government can’t afford to have another EDSA Revolution. This topic spread in the whole country and kudos to those who acted fast and force those businesses to their closure. We have to stand for our own territory just like many countries in Asia protecting their own nation against the invader and greedy country.
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August 26, 2020, 04:42:50 AM
#82
the matter of borrowing and borrowing from one country to another often occurs and it is not a strange thing, there could even be reciprocity that occurs from such borrowing, such as providing exploitation of some existing natural resources because it is also technologically not controlled and given to them. but this is a common thing and is commonplace in countries that are indeed in debt. because the reciprocal of borrowing debt is to provide controlled assets. because that may be the best way that can be done, but by freely controlling the land and its contents, it is certainly not justified that we must respect the sovereignty of the state that has assets.
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August 25, 2020, 04:50:43 AM
#81
So you can't pay your debt let us handle some part of your country.

As a country that cannot pay a large amount all the things they need are to allow them.

As far as I know, we have a comment about this on the government.

It goes like our country will never fall to this trick by China. As far as I know, that is a financial officer and that means they knew about it and they have a way to go against it. I don't think that our government is that stupid to make a loan without thinking about the consequences of it, they even made a statement about it means they are ready for it.

Edit : https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/05/11/19/ph-will-never-fall-into-china-debt-trap-says-finance-officials
sr. member
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August 25, 2020, 01:39:51 AM
#80
Looking at the situation, I think we should not take this issue in general.

The product owner involved should be the only one to be questioned. There is no way China government will treat PH as a province, I mean if they do, we should have seen several cases like that in all Chinese products in Divisoria and Chinatown Binondo. Maybe those owners looked down at PH to the point that they listed it as a province on their product.

No, there have been some cases already that China is calling the Philippines as one of their provinces which is a great insult for every Philippine citizen. <...>
Yep, this isn't the first time Manila or Philippines was called the province of China. There was even a banner placed on one of the city's bridge.[1] Even if it isn't the first time, it's still hurtful for me as a citizen to see such kind of disrespectful act. I know our country has been in partnership with them because our President thinks that it's beneficial but this is too much. There are tons of Chinese here in our country already. Actually, here in our province, I think the businesses owned by Chinese are more successful than those owned by my fellow citizens. But just because that's the situation doesn't mean that we're not a country anymore and just their province.


[1]https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/philippines-province-of-china-banner-manila-e1531381061200.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1600&h=900&crop=1
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August 25, 2020, 12:34:26 AM
#79
The Philippines are one of the other country fallen on the Chinese money trap and right now the Philippines has one of the largest debt on China so the things they do now is allowing to have establishment came from China right now.
According to the Mayor of Manila, they already restricted the name of the product and the company of it to this kind of disrespect.

I think they are doing this just to fun too because there is a lot of rumors that the Philippines is a province of China because they already give up one of their islands.


China is not exempt they should follow the same laws, they are trying to manipulate things in terms of
letting poor countries to lend and that debts will be use to abuse the countries territorial rights.

Because of their power and a lot of money, they are just allowing some country just to make a loan to them and afterward if they cannot pay all of that debt just having a peaceful transaction

So you can't pay your debt let us handle some part of your country.

As a country that cannot pay a large amount all the things they need are to allow them.
legendary
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August 24, 2020, 06:56:33 PM
#78
Our country is called province of china

This is a direct insult to us, Filipinos to be called and labeled province of China.

For those of you who aren’t updated, recently, it was all over the news that a haircare product made in Binondo, Manila namely Ashley Shine Keratin Treatment Deep Repair put on its packaging that it was made in Manila, Province of China.

It was a big disrespect to our sovereignty by putting such listing on the product.

It's just the packaging on a product. What's the sovereignty issue? Are you relating this to the spats in the South China Sea?

It would be better if our country and leader would take a stand and  would not defend, tolerate, nor let them get away with bullying our country and people.

Our ancestors didn’t fight for our freedom and independence just to be humiliated, called and labeled “Philippines, Province of China”.

The foreign ministry did lodge a diplomatic protest and made various accusations against China regarding the recent fishing boat incident, though I'm not sure what that entails (if anything) in practice. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/philippines-minister-accuses-china-south-china-sea-claims-13047468

What do you want from Duterte, war in the South China Sea?
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August 24, 2020, 06:24:27 PM
#77
I am also worried to see countries that have debts to China. China has a desire to be the most developed and successful country than any other country. we should be able to make our own country a developed country without the help of other countries. I think China wants to colonize other countries in the economic field, if there are already many countries that owe to China then China can control the country or at least China can take over the economy of the country that owes it.
it was sad to hear a country that has a debt to the other country but that is proudful  because they do anything to help thier economy continue . we shouldnt hate china for that but we must thank them because they still have a heart that they help countries that are in need  .

 not only china but all country has an ambition to become the best  , theres no problem with that .  what i dont like is when they threaten the other  . thats not a fair competition anymore
China is said to be helpful to those countries who are badly needed particularly in money concerns but they should not be tolerated in their bad intentions to win over other country's economy. What is happening now is totally an insult to the Filipinos and hopefully this will serve a lesson for us especially the country's leaders that we should not always rely for other countries for our own country's survival but rather prove to them that we can do it on our own.
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August 24, 2020, 12:14:34 PM
#76
Given the chance China would claim that everywhere belongs to china. I get that historically speaking they could have a lot more places they used to own, and that is why I do understand that they want to get those lands back and unfortunately this is not just China neither, but it makes zero sense just because there is a map of old days you can't just ask for the same lands once again.

Look at Greece and their megali idea or whatever it is called, they want more lands from Macedonia and turkey, look at Israel and Palestine thing, look at USA and basically all the oil lands in the world Cheesy.

If that was the case, Italy would be huuuuuge, roman empire was insanely big, that is not the case anymore, China can't request lands they used to have, that is not how modern politics works.

I like this Idea if those things from the past can easily be claimed now for sure many rich empires will
do the same as what China is trying to do now.
It's no longer accepted as territory are been given now to each countries even ow small it is they have
international rights to claimed what the law declared to be for them.
China is not exempt they should follow the same laws, they are trying to manipulate things in terms of
letting poor countries to lend and that debts will be use to abuse the countries territorial rights.
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August 24, 2020, 11:48:37 AM
#75
Given the chance China would claim that everywhere belongs to china. I get that historically speaking they could have a lot more places they used to own, and that is why I do understand that they want to get those lands back and unfortunately this is not just China neither, but it makes zero sense just because there is a map of old days you can't just ask for the same lands once again.

Look at Greece and their megali idea or whatever it is called, they want more lands from Macedonia and turkey, look at Israel and Palestine thing, look at USA and basically all the oil lands in the world Cheesy.

If that was the case, Italy would be huuuuuge, roman empire was insanely big, that is not the case anymore, China can't request lands they used to have, that is not how modern politics works.
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August 23, 2020, 10:49:20 AM
#74
China has always wanted more and more lands and they are not afraid of doing anything they can to make it work but they are doing one thing wrong that they should have not, spilling over to other nations. Now what I am going to say may not sound so great, but it is a factual truth.

Remember Hitler? He killed 6 million Jewish people and the world was like "well if you keep doing this in few years we will be upset about it" and that's it, the moment they started to attack other nations? It was game on and everyone strike back. Remember Pol Pot? Dude killed millions and died in his sleep, remember Mao? Starved 20 million of his own man, died peacefully. As you can see if you do stuff to your own nation nobody cares, but the moment you attack other nations like this it is going to be a big war.
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August 22, 2020, 07:51:13 AM
#73
Our country is called province of china

This is a direct insult to us, Filipinos to be called and labeled province of China.

For those of you who aren’t updated, recently, it was all over the news that a haircare product made in Binondo, Manila namely Ashley Shine Keratin Treatment Deep Repair put on its packaging that it was made in Manila, Province of China.

It was a big disrespect to our sovereignty by putting such listing on the product. Majority know how our president is closely connected and pushing the ties between our lands and China. He even made a joke in front of audiences that our country is indeed province of china. No wonder these chinese have the audacity to label us as such.

I commend the Mayor of Manila for taking a stand of his principles and beliefs and by taking necessary actions of the said incident. According to the news, the two Chinese nationals would be deported back to their country.

Aside from having this recent incident, it also happened before. When you search at the location on facebook, Philippines is also listed as Province of China.


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Chinese are really moving aggressively into colonizing the third world countries including us, Taiwan, Vietnam, and Hong Kong. China is known to be land grabbing opportunist as well as debt trappers. They already made infrastructures to West Philippines Sea amidst the pandemic crisis. It was ours, but they’re the ones utilizing the oil and marine life there. They won’t even let our fishermen fish to our territory.

It would be better if our country and leader would take a stand and  would not defend, tolerate, nor let them get away with bullying our country and people.

Our ancestors didn’t fight for our freedom and independence just to be humiliated, called and labeled “Philippines, Province of China”.
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August 22, 2020, 07:48:16 AM
#72
I am also worried to see countries that have debts to China. China has a desire to be the most developed and successful country than any other country. we should be able to make our own country a developed country without the help of other countries. I think China wants to colonize other countries in the economic field, if there are already many countries that owe to China then China can control the country or at least China can take over the economy of the country that owes it.
it was sad to hear a country that has a debt to the other country but that is proudful  because they do anything to help thier economy continue . we shouldnt hate china for that but we must thank them because they still have a heart that they help countries that are in need  .

 not only china but all country has an ambition to become the best  , theres no problem with that .  what i dont like is when they threaten the other  . thats not a fair competition anymore
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August 22, 2020, 07:06:59 AM
#71
I am also from the Philippines, and it make me upset because since the day our government gave away our island and started to borrow huge amount of loans in China. Chinese people who visit our country became so arrogant that they assume they could rule the Philippines and declaring it is now of their provinces.

https://www.facebook.com/nasdaily/videos/2566227483691521/

This video link that I have shared is from Nas Daily in Facebook, it showed me that a lot of countries are also struggling from Chinese loans. If countries don't have the ability to pay their loans, the Chinese government will take control of the infrastructure that they built with their Chinese loans. So I think this is also currently happening in the Philippines that Chinese are already taking over our infrastructures or our country as well.

Same, I had a lot of experience with some of the Chinese nationals near my place, I am not saying all of them but the place is so populated by them that they are violating rules but authorities let them pass just because they are Chinese, they treat them different to the locals. Some are hard headed even in complying to the simple rule of no smoking. I felt like I am in a different country.

We are not asking for a war, we are asking for resistance from the government, punish the wrong doings, cause news are always telling that everything China and some of its citizend do, the government say its alright cause China and Philippines are friends. What the actual fuck kind of friendship is that.
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