Topic: Our country was called Province of China. - page 5. (Read 801 times)

At least China knows you exist. (Joke).

In Malaysia, I come from the islands, and we've had a long history of living together in the Federation of Malaysia but the East islanders are often excluded in national literature. I went to the mainland in the late 1990s and the stories I heard all became my personal experience. Upon being asked where I'm from, the follow-up would something like "oh, I've never been to Indonesia/Philippines/random country they think is near Malaysia". You'd often see on TV news them getting the map, location, and country wrong, and our state (by the way the largest in Malaysia) often mislabelled under International news.

So we had all these conspiracy theories because well, surely they weren't as idiot as all that? We all study the same history in school, we all learn about our country etc. But in fact, it's really just plain ignorance. People like to say Americans are dumb and don't know anything beyond their borders. My experience is that people everywhere else who don't have the opportunity or desire to learn things outside their coccoon are really much the same everywhere in the world.

The internet and social media, and our role lately in national politics has somewhat changed perceptions and awareness.

My belated point is: this could be plain ignorance on the part of the manufacturer. Some guy gave the address. Some guy couldn't figure out where Manila was, or some guy just put Made in China everywhere on everything they do.

Doesn't excuse them, but am just saying this particular incident could be less sinister than you think =) Sorry for the unpopular opinion.

There isn't a more insidious entity that knows better methods of psychological and social welfare than the beast of CCP. They have let the border dispute with India linger on for over 60 years now while continuing to show aggression and agreement alternatively. The Indian politicians were either too occupied domestically or too pussy-footed till now to respond properly. The Chinese have a policy of making inroads through utilizing the enemies weaknesses. To them, an enemy agreeing to hold talks is also an act of buying time and a weakness to be exploited. Its an expansionist and revisionist power that only settles on its own terms.

They never made such noises when they were seen as a over-populated developing country. Soon as they saw weakness in the world order, they have started doing these antics. People throughout Asia should unite against this uncalled aggression. Most of us are democracies and want nothing to have with the CCP policy of having a hierarchy of controlled and under-surveillance minions. I hope the Filipino politicians will take their stand and not allow such slow poisoning.

I don't think so.The Philippines would need lots of foreign capital,in order to industrialize and escape the "poverty trap".They can't just print the money and create capital out of nowhere.
Foreign investments and foreign debt are needed for further economic growth and development.
The problem with China is their imperialistic doctrine.The Chinese might invest in third world countries or lend them money,but eventually they would want to conquer those countries.

great job by the Mayor! fast response considering coming from a politician. thats a warning to all these chinese businessmen that are already considering manila as part of China. respect is all we need! wont be surprised that they will be deported as soon as possible. doing business illegally - no permits nor license, but comfortable doing their business out of their territory?? how long have been they doing that?

Its just shows that local government officials are working way better rather than the national government regarding this issue.

As roque said no one will believe Manila is a province of china but it is insulting for filipino people to be tagged our capital city as province of their own even its not true.

Manila mayor did a good job closing down their business and requesting for the deportation of the 2 chinese businessmen (owner of the said beauty product business).

I can feel how annoyed the Filipina people are about this. The money trap carried out by China does not only occur in the Philippines.
However, in several Southeast Asian countries too, I looked at the purpose country China no longer controls the world economy, but
China wants to expand its territory if we see what happened in the Philippines. If this is allowed in the long run, a military war can occur.

Wow this is really serious,. My country is among those that are taking loans from China and a lot of people have been blasting the government lately for taking loans from the Chinese government, but our foolish leaders keeps on giving some rubbish excuse about every stupid actions they take. This is so wrong. I have always been suspecting that the Chinese government has some evil plans and now it’s all happening.

I am even starting to wonder if all the accusations that people has been throwing at them for being behind the outbreak are true.

And why do we need to make negotiations as if that territory is not our very own ? Walang mang aapi kung walang magpapa api. I know that our arsenal are 10x weaker than them but it doesn't necessarily mean that we are now raising the white flag and let this bullying happen over and over again.

We won the arbitration case and that's great! It supposed to work against them but why it seems China are not scared at all? (IMO) It's because the Duterte administration's fang is not sharp ~ change my mind. Instead of giving strong warnings they simply shrugged and convince us that everything was just an accident or unintentional tsk.

Here, look at Presidential Spokesperson's and Manila Mayor's statement regarding the issue and try to compare

See? A simple act of courage means a lot. I hope you now get what I mean.

The country is being branded as a province of China by a mere beauty product which is probably dirt cheap and below minimum quality standard and has surely not passed all the necessary requirements to be admitted to the domestic market in the Philippines. This beauty product must have originated from an ignorant company back in China.

I would have dismissed this case outright as a nuisance if not with the political, economic, and affairs relating to international relations which are being hotly and divisively debated not just within the country or the region but within the whole world.

If I'm not mistaken, the leaders of the country current and past have been generally friendly with China although the relationship seemed to blossom a lot when the current administration started to treat the USA and the EU more of enemies rather than friends. It strategically positioned China as the apple of the eye of this poor forsaken country. From then on, all hell breaks loose.

We do not lack warnings and evidences and yet we still continue to allow ourselves to be showered with Chinese economic graces which we surely knew to be traps. While I question the capabilities of our leaders, I question more their nationalism and moral courage to steer this impoverished nation.

Dr. Mahathir of Malaysia was able to cancel at least $22.3 billion worth of China-funded projects in his country knowing full well that the acceptance of the same will drown them with Chinese debt they cannot afford to repay. This debt trap is what he calls as "new version of colonialism." Alas, the brave leaders of our country do not have the balls to do just this.

I've read a lot and there's a lot of countries that have been bullied and abused by China, even 2nd world countries are included. It is so embarrassing that a country which is the leading in Asia on the past but now at the bottom because of these corrupt politicians.
Yeah there's nothing wrong with having a relationship on other countries, but as much as possible we shouldn't rely huge matters on the other countries especially China. They will just take it as their stepping stone to conquer some of our islands and the worst part is what happening right now, disrespecting us face to face.

It all interconnects mate. That's why Nograles said, it's very hard to dismiss that kind of insult as a simple error, meaning, there's a chance that news about our country being a province of china are already spreading across the chinese media. Did you remember in the year 2018 where they put a banner of "Welcome to the Philippines, province of China" in QC? This thing isn't new anymore and the issue is still going on and will become worst in the next few days.


Source: twitter

  it all interconnects.

Territorial disputes in the South China Sea
Philippines, Province of China banners
Binondo-based beauty product listed as from ‘Manila, Province of China’ earns ire of solon
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1324634/blacklisting-of-beauty-product-maker-that-allegedly-listed-manila-as-province-of-china-sought#ixzz6Vidd1kch

If youre talking about President his method are quite bit different compared to previous one, I mean he is frank and let say a guy that will do anything for his countrymen. Its a shame that some companies were flagged like on what's OP photo. We are not sure though if this is really real or purposely made by someone to create fud about the government.

I am 100% agree with you. I dont want to think that they just ignoring it due to our current debt on them. Yes we, the Philippines are debted to them but they must be civilized on how they handle stuff like this. I do want to hear any feedback from the President once he see this kind of downing to our Philippine Flag.

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No offense Chinese members here, but this isnt good to labeled different country as your province. At least show some proof that it was approved by out Government. Have some knick knack balls.

I wonder why our government is still allowing this kind of insults coming from the Chinese, I've heard and seen these things happen before but our government only took minor action about it(which is sad). I have no problem if our government wants to ally itself with china(even if I don't like their government) but insulting our country's sovereignty by saying that our country is a province of China is unacceptable and should be taken seriously by our government. I'm glad that the shop had been closed and the current mayor of manila wants to deport Chinese nationals selling products with label saying that the Philippines is a province of china(I hope this happens).

Do you have the a good way to claim the island that china own in some part of the Philippines? The US government had only made an advise to settle the dispute with international law and where Philippines filed a complaint and win over it. But, did it make china to pull out in the territory of the Philippines? No, because they are powerful and know that Philipine could not sustain if war will going to take place and that is why the President of the Philippines had been making negotiations with china government getting shares in the china of that part of philippine sea island explorations.

Nah, I don't think so. Only the Philippines is the country China can bully and it's so embarassing. They are disgracing us in our own land without even fighting back and it s*cks! And what I hate the lost is that our government only doing gentle response on all of the issues probably because they don't want a conflict but at what cost? They continue abusing us. Don't get me wrong, I'm not promoting war against them because I don't want it either. Obviously, we're on the losing side. But I just hope we can also do like what Vietnam (take this as reference) did, they stand for their rights and not afraid to resist despite of knowing that they're a third world country as well .
Hmm actually there's nothing wrong with strengthening our relationship with foreign countries. It's beneficial for both parties because it creates more employment and open trades. It just so happened that our current president pick a a wrong ally .

Should I even expect for the country to press legal charges on said company? Most of us are yes, pretty mad at this issue, but really, would our President even bloody care for said issue? I'd already be very glad if he doesn't make a move about this and let others press the charges themselves. Now, I'm just basically wondering, the product has been made since 2018 and as such, how long was such an issue been on? And no one really noticed a thing about it? I mean, not that I'm one to closely check everything on my products, but I at least check the labels thoroughly once when I buy them.

Source on this? The only ones I found were the Mayors pushing for it's ban, and closing the stores in Manila. Articles have stated that they already removed the said Address issue, but Mayors still pushed for closing down stores, as well as telling online e-commerce stores (Shoppee, Lazada) to stop selling their products.

Source: https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/08/21/2036808/stalls-selling-manila-province-china-products-padlocked

What those Chinese people did was very insulting, they have done that in our own territory. They have no right to claim Manila as their province, Manila is the capital of the Philippines, they just migrated there and now they want to own it. They build businesses there and yes they also helped other Filipinos working for them, but that was not enough for them to occupy the area permanently. They should be sent back to their own country as punishment.

China has always been on the move when it comes to money and land expansion especially to those small third world countries that they can easily bully such as our country Philippines. And our president just keep letting them be and trying to act like we are friends with them which we all know we're not rather we're just slaves to them. Good thing that other countries are fighting back when China is up to something such as grabbing islands.

The government knows what is happening right now and some of the great leaders of each city are now closing these stores that are selling these products. One of the most popular mayos nowadays gave his comments about this and he is really mad. This is really insulting as a Filipino citizen, they take our lands, and then they wanted to take our country as a province?! I bet our president will not do anything about it saying that it is just a mistake.

It's beyond our control. That's their own view and they are in China. Even their government will say against that, they won't listen. You can't just say what should they do. If they don't respect, then don't respect them back. In any country, there are citizens that looked down at any country. We have no way to change that thinking as long as they will shout for that within just their territory.

But it's another story if there will be a foreigner who will say that within PH territory. That will be the time now to take actions as they have no right to do that in our homeland.


Yes, there will be affected people and loses jobs because there are a total of 4 stores that have been closed down.

But since their owners do a irresponsible acts right here in our country, I hope these people will understand the situation.

What I'm pissed off is those at DTI. They should have seen that early as all legit products are registered to them.

No, there have been some cases already that China is calling the Philippines as one of their provinces which is a great insult for every Philippine citizen. Any country called as a province by whatever country is a great insult, including your sovereignty. This should be an initiative for the China to correct their people not to look in the Philippines as one of their provinces, indeed that was a huge mistake by the owner of the product.

Why are we talking about the Chinese debt trap in here? I think it is far and distinct from this situation.

Yes, I'm glad that they already blacklisted the product as well as the company who is responsible for that. What I'm just a bit sad about is the lose of jobs, as we know we have a high unemployment rate due to the pandemic and this happens, and I'm very sure that there is a Filipino who lost his/her job because of this.