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Topic: ░▒▓ OUT OF STOCK! Anonymous Reloadable Debit Cards + IBAN | Anon VCC VBA SIM ▓▒░ - page 12. (Read 106057 times)

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Why do you question my knowledge of my products? You're not my customer, maybe you have had bad experience with other vendors but this is not the right place to show your frustration. I can't be responsible for other vendors.

First of all you need to chill dude!  Cool

Second: these are not "your products"! These are Bank Zachodni cards and you are just a very expensive reseller without any added value.

But don't worry, I won't spoil your sales by telling here where everybody can buy these cards for 1/5 of your price not to mention that the VCCs are free to obtain.

If people are happy paying your price and getting the "tough luck mate, you belong to the 3-5% of blocked cards!" line whenever a card gets blocked than I'm happy too...

Your cards are not different from others so I know what I'm talking about. If you can't stand a negative experience with the exact same products you're selling maybe that's the reason why we don't see more bad experiences in your topic.  Wink

I'm just warning people about reality! I have no other interest as I'm not selling anything!

I just don't like to see people getting false expectations like I once had.

But if math is on your side let's see how many non-newbies will share their good experiences?

How many of you received more than 3 transfers from different IBANs and not get blocked?

How many have received transfers from US accounts and not get blocked?

Getting the cards back in the mail is one thing. Using them regularly is another. Everyboby is reporting that they receive the cards like promised but not that they are able to receive more than a very few transfers per card.


You already proofed in your first paragraph that you don't have a clue about BZ WBK's VCCs. For your information, yes, they offer bank withdrawals, so I provided true information to zane78945. Probably another thing that your vendor didn't inform you about, along with guide of safe usage.

You may be right in this point because I haven't nearly as much experience with the VCCs as I have with physical cards.

I was convinced that you can't send outgoing transfers from any of these cards, physical or virtual.

Post here how to do it and prove me wrong if you can!

 Cool
sr. member
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If there were a card available for this in Canada, I would consider it after getting a bigger income. It definitely would come in handy when I travel. I do a lot of that, and travel is a great Bitcoin application.
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@Biznesmen Can I top up the physical debit cards using the virtual credit cards?

I think yes, it's possible. My VCC cards have possibility of withdrawing to Polish bank account, so you can probably provide IBAN of your physical card and load it by doing that.

How do you think it's possible?

You can't send transfers from these cards. You can only receive transfers.

To do such a thing you would need a third party like https://transferwise.com or https://www.worldremit.com but you can't stay anonymous using those.



Obviously people don't write about positive experience, only when the bad happens but I understand that. The numbers of 3-5% blocked cards are still good, I don't want to give exact numbers, but I've sold many of the cards, and everybody can count how many people in this thread complained about blocks. I think it's even less than 3%.

I wish I could something do even for that small part of my customer, but I'm only a 3rd party, the bank won't talk with me as your representative anymore when they find out that I'm a vendor of the cards. I would also put myself into trouble sooner or later, yes I can imagine what some of you are trying to do with those Wink

So I can't help you guys for now with that blocks, however I'm trying to find a permanent solution for this. I'll let you know when I have any good news.

All currencies in stock, accepting orders - as long as you're not afraid of that chance for having the card blocked, since this is a price of it's anonymity.

The price of anonymity is losing everything you loaded to the cards?

You are wrong about 2 things. People are writing positive stuff here. Most are newbies but that it's not your fault.

Other thing is that the risk of blocking is way higher than 5%. At least outside Poland the risk might be 50% or higher based on my experience of non-fraudulent use and non-bitcoin use.

I don't know what your guide says but if the card receive transfers from 3-4 different IBANs it gets limited.

Yes mate, the price of my anonymity is that 3-5% of cards get frozen and I've never been hiding this fact - like other vendors. On the other hand you can choose other cards, but don't forget to provide your passport / ID scan, utility bill, bank statement and preferably your fingerprint and DNA code. Selfies with passport holding in your hands are highly welcome. Your choice...

Why do you question my knowledge of my products? You're not my customer, maybe you have had bad experience with other vendors but this is not the right place to show your frustration. I can't be responsible for other vendors.

You already proofed in your first paragraph that you don't have a clue about BZ WBK's VCCs. For your information, yes, they offer bank withdrawals, so I provided true information to zane78945. Probably another thing that your vendor didn't inform you about, along with guide of safe usage.

No, mate, I'm not wrong. I have math on my side, math is a strict field, there is no room for your speculations. The fact is I sold many, many of my products. Newbies telling here positive things are maybe 0.01% of my total sales - I'm not only selling those here.

People telling about blocks are less than 1% from all of my sales. I'm aware that some part haven't bother to do that, that's why I safely put 3-5%, just to be realistic. Your 50% is ridiculous and proves once again that you don't have a clue which rises another big question: why do you give such false speculations? Once again, this is not the right place for your frustration.

Please don't troll me further. I don't have time for this, I'm busy to deliver anonymous banking products.

Regards,
Biz
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@Biznesmen Can I top up the physical debit cards using the virtual credit cards?

I think yes, it's possible. My VCC cards have possibility of withdrawing to Polish bank account, so you can probably provide IBAN of your physical card and load it by doing that.

How do you think it's possible?

You can't send transfers from these cards. You can only receive transfers.

To do such a thing you would need a third party like https://transferwise.com or https://www.worldremit.com but you can't stay anonymous using those.



Obviously people don't write about positive experience, only when the bad happens but I understand that. The numbers of 3-5% blocked cards are still good, I don't want to give exact numbers, but I've sold many of the cards, and everybody can count how many people in this thread complained about blocks. I think it's even less than 3%.

I wish I could something do even for that small part of my customer, but I'm only a 3rd party, the bank won't talk with me as your representative anymore when they find out that I'm a vendor of the cards. I would also put myself into trouble sooner or later, yes I can imagine what some of you are trying to do with those Wink

So I can't help you guys for now with that blocks, however I'm trying to find a permanent solution for this. I'll let you know when I have any good news.

All currencies in stock, accepting orders - as long as you're not afraid of that chance for having the card blocked, since this is a price of it's anonymity.

The price of anonymity is losing everything you loaded to the cards?

You are wrong about 2 things. People are writing positive stuff here. Most are newbies but that it's not your fault.

Other thing is that the risk of blocking is way higher than 5%. At least outside Poland the risk might be 50% or higher based on my experience of non-fraudulent use and non-bitcoin use.

I don't know what your guide says but if the card receive transfers from 3-4 different IBANs it gets limited.
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newbie
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Can you pm me some more details of the possibilities of these cards, if you have something handy already? Thanks

edit: How can I pay you if I want to get ~5 cards?
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@Biznesmen Can I top up the physical debit cards using the virtual credit cards?

I think yes, it's possible. My VCC cards have possibility of withdrawing to Polish bank account, so you can probably provide IBAN of your physical card and load it by doing that.
newbie
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@Biznesmen Can I top up the physical debit cards using the virtual credit cards?
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I'm interested in 3x Vcc US US10 pricetag, interested in buying via paypal. I'm going to use it online so I guess I dont need a physical.

BTW, can I know how I can topup the money in those cards and also withdraw the money from those cards?

Can I use it to do online shopping worldwide eg purchase software/games and even use it to buy stuff in google play/ebay/applestore/tc?

Thank you.

PS: the vcc is visa debit card/something else?



Answered via PM, price quote included.
newbie
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I'm interested in 3x Vcc US US10 pricetag, interested in buying via paypal. I'm going to use it online so I guess I dont need a physical.

BTW, can I know how I can topup the money in those cards and also withdraw the money from those cards?

Can I use it to do online shopping worldwide eg purchase software/games and even use it to buy stuff in google play/ebay/applestore/tc?

Thank you.

PS: the vcc is visa debit card/something else?

sr. member
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Hey,
thanks for the feedback. Well, this is what the bank says, but who knows Smiley
newbie
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Hey!

I came back to say hello and thanks for the cards. They work like a charm!

Though I regret a bit that I chose the eur card as seemingly GBP cards have the biggest daily withdrawal options.

Also, I think that this: "Currency Conversion: 2.8% (applies only to transactions not in original/native card's currency and only when EUR is NOT involved in conversion)" isn't true. I can't see any fees related to currency conversion in my history but the exchange rate is around that percent lower than in the ATM's bank.
sr. member
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Biznesmen

We are StealthCoin (privacy centric) community.

I have listed your goods on our official forum:

https://stealthcointalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=49&sid=1e4e1c1bd9b6f6ddb08c9760aab5c0ab

You can sign up there if you want to list more anonymous products or services you offer or if you want to add more description to your products.



Sounds interesting, I'll have a closer look into this tomorrow. Thanks.
MR1
legendary
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Biznesmen

We are StealthCoin (privacy centric) community.

I have listed your goods on our official forum:

https://stealthcointalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=49&sid=1e4e1c1bd9b6f6ddb08c9760aab5c0ab

You can sign up there if you want to list more anonymous products or services you offer or if you want to add more description to your products.

sr. member
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The instructions for BTC withdrawals don't guarantee 100% safeness but the risk is way smaller. Unfortunately sometimes card blocks happen like I already explained and we can't do anything but to prevent from getting frozen the more that it should be, it's part of my guide too.

Obviously people don't write about positive experience, only when the bad happens but I understand that. The numbers of 3-5% blocked cards are still good, I don't want to give exact numbers, but I've sold many of the cards, and everybody can count how many people in this thread complained about blocks. I think it's even less than 3%.

I wish I could something do even for that small part of my customer, but I'm only a 3rd party, the bank won't talk with me as your representative anymore when they find out that I'm a vendor of the cards. I would also put myself into trouble sooner or later, yes I can imagine what some of you are trying to do with those Wink

So I can't help you guys for now with that blocks, however I'm trying to find a permanent solution for this. I'll let you know when I have any good news.

All currencies in stock, accepting orders - as long as you're not afraid of that chance for having the card blocked, since this is a price of it's anonymity.

Regards,
Biz
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I sent you a PM with a few questions.

Thanks for your services.
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i have 2k gbp locked to one of these cards i think because i sold btc via happycoins to one of them. is there anything i can do


It's not easy to unlock these cards. People will tell you that you need to fly to Poland and visit a physical branch.

I successfully unlocked an mBank card by email when they started a massive lock.

After that I had several BZWBK cards locked and they remain locked to this date despite several phone calls and emails back and forth.

They gave me no reason whatsoever as to why they locked the cards. I never withdraw btc to the cards so that wasn't the reason for sure.

If you have any success unlocking it let me know.

I pay a generous fee to whoever can get my money back from these cards.
Can you log in to your BZWBK Internet banking?

I guess not.

I remember I can access mBank for a locked card but not for BZ.

I'm not sure but I can check that.

What difference does it make?

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