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EskimoBob

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Quote from: EskimoBob on September 08, 2012, 07:32:59 AM

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Quote from: EskimoBob on September 08, 2012, 07:14:10 AM

Why are PPT issuers so scared of this ass hat pirateat40 aka PonzyClown?
Why can't you guys team up and apply some serious pressure on PonzyClown to end this fiasco?

I am sure some of the PPT investors will back you up and help you to take down this scammer for good.

Ignorant troll detected. If he only knew what was going on...

NOTHING

Yes, You know NOTHING of what is going on... Keep trolling...

(message to Goat about the meaning of "troll" removed)

Goayt, did you send your evil ninjas with chop sticks to slice and dice scammer Trendon?
Do not forget to record it how this lowlife scumbag is begging for mercy while transferring back the stolen coins. LOL
NB! Ninjas chop sticks and not the Lego ninjas!

piotr_n

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Quote from: piotr_n on September 09, 2012, 07:50:17 AM

Quote from: Shadow383 on September 09, 2012, 07:38:37 AM

-Zeek rewards ponzi offers 10.5% per week - Pirate claims to be earning 10.5% per week
-Zeek rewards gets shut down August 17th - Pirate folds August 17th
-Trendon's wife has/had zeek rewards affiliate stuff on her twitter, so they at least had knowledge of zeek and probably had some cash in it.

It'd make sense.
Whether that means that pirate investors might see a few percent back (Zeek had $225 million in assets to cover their >$600 million in liabilities, and legal costs will shave off some of that, but zeek rewards creditors may get back some cents on the dollar) is as yet unknown.

Which one is the Pirate's wife twitter account?

So you don't know where is the Pirate wife's alleged twitter account - but you do know that she "has/had zeek rewards affiliate stuff on her twitter"
Yeah, that would makes sense... a lot of sense! Cheesy

If you don't believe in what Pirate says, how can you be so sure that he even has a wife?

I mean, according to my knowledge, the only info about Prate having a wife came from Pirate itself - didn't it?

Quote from: pirateat40 on May 21, 2012, 01:55:10 PM

Q - Are you running a drug ring and laundering money for Silk Road?
A - Are you kidding me? I live in the US. If anything I was doing was illegal, my CPA, attorneys, and scariest... my wife would have my head. So to make it clear, nothing I'm associated with is illegal.

piotr_n

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Quote from: Shadow383 on September 09, 2012, 07:38:37 AM

Quote from: piotr_n on September 09, 2012, 07:24:44 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on September 09, 2012, 07:22:32 AM

Quote from: piotr_n on September 09, 2012, 07:20:46 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on September 09, 2012, 07:04:05 AM

Pirate isnt returning anything. He sent all the money to zeekrewards.com

How do you know that?

Its quite obvious if you have been following things.

What sort of argument is that?

IMO you don't know shit @bitcoin.me - and it's been quite obvious for me, because I have been following the things you were posting.
Even my niece knows more than you. And she is 7...

-Zeek rewards ponzi offers 10.5% per week - Pirate claims to be earning 10.5% per week
-Zeek rewards gets shut down August 17th - Pirate folds August 17th
-Trendon's wife has/had zeek rewards affiliate stuff on her twitter, so they at least had knowledge of zeek and probably had some cash in it.

It'd make sense.
Whether that means that pirate investors might see a few percent back (Zeek had $225 million in assets to cover their >$600 million in liabilities, and legal costs will shave off some of that, but zeek rewards creditors may get back some cents on the dollar) is as yet unknown.

Which one is the Pirate's wife twitter account?

tbcoin

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Quote from: Shadow383 on September 09, 2012, 07:38:37 AM

Quote from: piotr_n on September 09, 2012, 07:24:44 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on September 09, 2012, 07:22:32 AM

Quote from: piotr_n on September 09, 2012, 07:20:46 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on September 09, 2012, 07:04:05 AM

Pirate isnt returning anything. He sent all the money to zeekrewards.com

How do you know that?

Its quite obvious if you have been following things.

What sort of argument is that?

IMO you don't know shit @bitcoin.me - and it's been quite obvious for me, because I have been following the things you were posting.
Even my niece knows more than you. And she is 7...

-Zeek rewards ponzi offers 10.5% per week - Pirate claims to be earning 10.5% per week
-Zeek rewards gets shut down August 17th - Pirate folds August 17th
-Trendon's wife has/had zeek rewards affiliate stuff on her twitter, so they at least had knowledge of zeek and probably had some cash in it.

It'd make sense.
Whether that means that pirate investors might see a few percent back (Zeek had $225 million in assets to cover their >$600 million in liabilities, and legal costs will shave off some of that, but zeek rewards creditors may get back some cents on the dollar) is as yet unknown.

For those who believe that the address 1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM is of pirate, we do not care if HE lost money in zeekrewards, because at the moment of close BTCST he was about 500k bitcoins in their hands.

Shadow383

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Quote from: piotr_n on September 09, 2012, 07:24:44 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on September 09, 2012, 07:22:32 AM

Quote from: piotr_n on September 09, 2012, 07:20:46 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on September 09, 2012, 07:04:05 AM

Pirate isnt returning anything. He sent all the money to zeekrewards.com

How do you know that?

Its quite obvious if you have been following things.

What sort of argument is that?

IMO you don't know shit @bitcoin.me - and it's been quite obvious for me, because I have been following the things you were posting.
Even my niece knows more than you. And she is 7...

-Zeek rewards ponzi offers 10.5% per week - Pirate claims to be earning 10.5% per week
-Zeek rewards gets shut down August 17th - Pirate folds August 17th
-Trendon's wife has/had zeek rewards affiliate stuff on her twitter, so they at least had knowledge of zeek and probably had some cash in it.

It'd make sense.
Whether that means that pirate investors might see a few percent back (Zeek had $225 million in assets to cover their >$600 million in liabilities, and legal costs will shave off some of that, but zeek rewards creditors may get back some cents on the dollar) is as yet unknown.

piotr_n

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Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on September 09, 2012, 07:22:32 AM

Quote from: piotr_n on September 09, 2012, 07:20:46 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on September 09, 2012, 07:04:05 AM

Pirate isnt returning anything. He sent all the money to zeekrewards.com

How do you know that?

Its quite obvious if you have been following things.

What sort of argument is that?

IMO you don't know shit @bitcoin.me - and it's been quite obvious for me, because I have been following the things you were posting.
Even my niece knows more than you. And she is 7...

Bitcoin Oz

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Wat

Quote from: piotr_n on September 09, 2012, 07:20:46 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on September 09, 2012, 07:04:05 AM

Pirate isnt returning anything. He sent all the money to zeekrewards.com

How do you know that?

Its quite obvious if you have been following things.

piotr_n

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Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on September 09, 2012, 07:04:05 AM

Pirate isnt returning anything. He sent all the money to zeekrewards.com

How do you know that?

Bitcoin Oz

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Wat

Quote from: piotr_n on September 09, 2012, 06:01:24 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on September 09, 2012, 05:56:29 AM

Prediction for what will happen. Nothing.

You think it is still a prediction that Goat is not going to sue Pirate?
Well, it's pretty certain for me.

And if Pirate will return the deposits - all except the ones for GLBSE PPT bonds, there will be hundreds, maybe even thousands, of people feeling cheated by Goat and Nefario. At least one of then will take it up to court... And if the person won't be able to identify Goat (because, as we all know, Goat hides his identity) - then they will sue Nefario, since the guys have obviously been partners in this PPT-bonds fraud.

Pirate isnt returning anything. He sent all the money to zeekrewards.com

piotr_n

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Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on September 09, 2012, 05:56:29 AM

Prediction for what will happen. Nothing.

You think it is still a prediction that Goat is not going to sue Pirate?
Well, it's pretty certain for me.

And if Pirate will return the deposits - all except the ones for GLBSE PPT bonds, there will be hundreds, maybe even thousands, of people feeling cheated by Goat and Nefario. At least one of then will take it up to court... And if the person won't be able to identify Goat (because, as we all know, Goat hides his identity) - then they will sue Nefario, since the guys have obviously been partners in this PPT-bonds fraud.

Bitcoin Oz

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Wat

Quote from: piotr_n on September 09, 2012, 05:50:06 AM

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Quote from: piotr_n on September 09, 2012, 05:35:15 AM

Why would I shit myself wathing you doing exactly what I once asked you to do?

So how is it going Goat with you suing Pirate - still planing doing it?
Because I really don't think so - you will be the one who gets sued. You and Nefario.
And you will both end up in jail, so you are definitely the ones who should be shitting themselves now

I know I broke the rule and feed the troll.

Of course - don't feed me, I have no problems feeding myself.

Just remember the last sincere advise from your favorite troll: don't bend down for a soap!

Prediction for what will happen. Nothing.

piotr_n

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Quote from: piotr_n on September 09, 2012, 05:35:15 AM

Why would I shit myself wathing you doing exactly what I once asked you to do?

So how is it going Goat with you suing Pirate - still planing doing it?
Because I really don't think so - you will be the one who gets sued. You and Nefario.
And you will both end up in jail, so you are definitely the ones who should be shitting themselves now

I know I broke the rule and feed the troll.

Of course - don't feed me, I have no problems feeding myself.

Just remember the last sincere advise from your favorite troll: don't bend down for a soap!

piotr_n

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Why would I shit myself wathing you doing exactly what I once asked you to do?

So how is it going Goat with you suing Pirate - still planing doing it?
Because I really don't think so - you will be the one who gets sued. You and Nefario.
And you will both end up in jail, so you are definitely the ones who should be shitting themselves now

piotr_n

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Quote from: xkrikl on September 06, 2012, 02:33:08 AM

Quote from: P4man on September 06, 2012, 02:28:33 AM

Quote from: xkrikl on September 06, 2012, 02:21:10 AM

I don't like Goat selling his part of deposit at pirate.

Did he sell his BTCST account?

No, I don't think so ... but he probably sold (according to the number of bonds out of issuer account) his personal part of money deposited in his BTCST account in form of TYGRR.BOND-P bonds.

as far as we know he had monies deposited with Pirate outside of tygrr.bond-p as well.

did ya, Goat?

xkrikl

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Quote from: P4man on September 06, 2012, 02:28:33 AM

Quote from: xkrikl on September 06, 2012, 02:21:10 AM

I don't like Goat selling his part of deposit at pirate.

Did he sell his BTCST account?

No, I don't think so ... but he probably sold (according to the number of bonds out of issuer account) his personal part of money deposited in his BTCST account in form of TYGRR.BOND-P bonds.

tbcoin

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Quote from: P4man on September 06, 2012, 02:28:33 AM

Quote from: xkrikl on September 06, 2012, 02:21:10 AM

I don't like Goat selling his part of deposit at pirate.

Did he sell his BTCST account?

No, he jk about it

P4man

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Quote from: xkrikl on September 06, 2012, 02:21:10 AM

I don't like Goat selling his part of deposit at pirate.

Did he sell his BTCST account?

xkrikl

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Quote from: sadpandatech on September 05, 2012, 10:25:02 PM

Quote from: totaleclipseofthebank on September 05, 2012, 10:10:50 PM

Quote from: JoelKatz on September 05, 2012, 09:55:25 PM

Quote from: totaleclipseofthebank on September 05, 2012, 08:56:42 PM

If a bond is guaranteed at face value by the issuer, they are breaching their obligations by buying them back on the secondary market at a discount.

I don't understand how. If you mean the bond is due presently and they're not paying it, then they're in default. I agree that buying your own debt when you are in default is a problem. You should be using those funds to make proportional payments. But PPT operators are not in default and there is no actual conflict of interest.

Well I think we largely agree. If Goat has some additional money of his own, sure he can buy back some bonds (and pocket their future payments). However, if he is receiving money from Pirate, then that should go through as a dividend, not as a buyback, in order to preserve the pass-through function of the bonds throughout the default process. Anyway, thanks for the interesting discussion! I think even though these are likely moot points it is good practice to discuss things constructively.

I tihnk we all pretty much agree on it. BUT, where does this 'receiving money from pirate' variable keep coming from?

If Pirate pays anyone we will all surely know as soon as anyone else will. And I agree if Pirate pays partial AND makes it clear that he is going to pay more then it would be unfair to do a buyback if more payments are coming. BUT again, that thus far has not been the stated method that Pirate was going to payback.

In the unlikely event that Pirate does pay back, we will keep our pet Goat on a leash and make sure it is stated and understood clearly whether any Pirate payment is a one time lump or if there are multiples planned.

Many people are talking about the fact that Goat could buy the cheap bonds before paying out ... yes he can as well as anybody else who has the information ... but there is only very small part of the bonds offered on the market ... so I don't care.

The contrat says "The bond will not be bought back unless BTCST refunds the deposit." so one could wonder what would happen in case of partial refund but we have also "This bond is not guaranteed but will be honored at best effort." clause in the contract so I would expect that we would get even any partial refund passed to us as dividend or buyback.

I don't like Goat selling his part of deposit at pirate. Not because it could be considered as against contract but because before we knew he was personally interested to go after pirate and this way as he has sold his position already at loss he won't be personally interested in those "collection efforts". :-(

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Quote from: sadpandatech on September 05, 2012, 10:25:02 PM

we will keep our pet Goat on a leash

GLWT

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