Topic: P2PB2B - resolving "scam alerts" and misunderstandings - page 8. (Read 3441 times)

Yeah, it should start any day now and that's the very least that I can do.

I forced them to start an escrowed campaign. (Still waiting)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53170993

That was the only thing I could do, to ensure that participants will be paid. And I guess they found Lauda as an escrow, which means 100% safe campaign. There are a lot of scam accusations and some People think that this exchange is a scam (Including me). Exchange representatives are denying accusations. So, let potential traders read what is mentioned in scam accusations, study supporting evidence and make up their own minds.

You're a funny and naive one indeed. No worries, you'll learn how the real world works soon enough.

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Seems they have updated the thread and handled accusations 7 though 10.

Binance.


At least it's proved that the visitors on P2PB2B land on exchange for a very less time compared to a normal exchange.

I will welcome their initiative to resolve all accusation against them. I am not sure how they will do it, but something is better than nothing. If at least few accuser get respond from them and resolve the issue that's good for us. Because we can't help them ourselves except red tag. If we see deeply then we will found few trouble on most of exchanges. But finding solutions if more effective way to resolve such as issue. Lots of exchange accused here, but sadly they do not responding to solve. In that angle OP is better than them. We can't prevent them promoting their platform here, its quite difficult to tag all participants. So let's try to resolve some issues those are pending.

Tell me which exchange does not engage in fake volumes, or are you that naive?

Sorry dear, Volumes prevent you from trading there? I do not quite understand your charge! why does it bother you so much? With this approach, you can make a list of all exchangers and blame them.

Sorry about the archive that does not load. It was basically of this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pb2bio-has-blocked-my-account-without-any-explanation-looks-like-scam-5166605 like someone stated above.

As you can see my feedback, it's about a number of accusations that were raised against you recently and you acted too stubborn to resolved them. If resolve the issues. I will remove or change my tag to neutral.

I believe if you acted this way from the beginning, things would be different by now.

That's commendable.  I'll go through the list and lend my opinion, for what it's worth.



I must admit, this looks pretty shady.  I had never heard of your exchange before these scam accusations started popping up.  I find it hard to believe you've got the trading volume that the screenshot suggests.  Personally, I don't think it's worthy of a red-tag or a flag.  It does however suggest that you may be manipulating information that's passed on to CMC.  If that's the case I suggest you don't.  No exchange can be trusted if they are suspected of manipulation and false advertising.



I suspect JollyGood thinks your response is a lie?  It sounds like a made up excuse to me, but again, I wouldn't red-tag over it.  Coinsbit definitely looks like a Ponzi, and it wouldn't be good if you were proven to be affiliated.  Having said that, I don't see any solid proof of such.



It's an archive link, it points the same post as number 6 on your list.

Numbers 5 through 11 are the concerning part for me.  That's a lot of dissatisfied customers, and if it were my business I would want them happy with the way I handled adversity.  I'm looking forward to seeing how these situations are handled, and I'll look through them more carefully as I have time.

surprising what the people can do to force an exchange to really comply and answer the accusations and fix it. i wouldn't say if it weren't for the bounty campaign they are planing to do here, they wouldn't be doing all these but i think P2Pb2B somehow is serious about rebuilding the reputation they have. maybe its time to also ask about the IEO in their exchange, are you OP the right person to ask related to projects doing IEO?

I am glad they are trying to address the issue here rather than rebirthing again with another project. But they are engaged in showing fake volumes of cryptos on there exchange which is simply not common for any decent exchange.

I can understand insane volume on exchanges that operate with 0% fees for regular trades as these are my favorite to trade and even I can put down insane volume on them, but this exchange is claiming 0.2% fees on all trades, and $1,281,749,865 in volume per day, and therefore raking in a massive $2.5MM in revenue per day?

Is this true? Or are you allowing some users/bots to trade with no or very low fees?
Is their some explanation for this or are you claiming that you are actually making $2.5mm per day in trade fees and it is all legit charged volume?


Good plan, nice quote..

The same can be said for pretty much any exchange; don't let your bias cloud your judgement and let them try to resolve their issues rather than attacking them for trying.

By looking at the accusations against your exchange, I think it would hardly take you some years to solve this all or probably never.

Just a good luck from me for your fake fight !

I am too watching the thread. Will active the notification after making this post.

Here what I found again your exchange: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52068416

Good to see an initiative. Let's see where it goes.

Good luck.

Context for this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53203883. Watching.

We create this topic for analyzing each complaint individually. To ultimately resolve all current misunderstandings and false "scam alert".  I wanted to deal with each punkt and eliminate the negative impact. If I missed something - please complete me.

P2PB2B Signature campaign: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pb2b-signature-campaign-weekly-rewards-in-eth-5203715

P2PB2B Announce: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48823121

P2PB2B official account - p2pb2b.io:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2509426

P2PB2B bounty account - P2PB2B Bounty Manager: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/p2pb2b-bounty-manager-2719262

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1.  JollyGood started this topic: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/beware-of-super-scam-p2pb2b-claim-to-be-worlds-biggest-exchange-5192497
2.  JollyGood  - minus trust: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51834549
1 fact:
In this list more than 20 exchanges that have a similar volume: https://coinmarketcap.com/rankings/exchanges/

2 fact:
Here P2PB2B provide 1-4 non fee accounts for Market making program. This allows to do more trading volumes: https://listing.p2pb2b.io/?_ga=2.149711985.692397089.1575240258-1493963687.1575240258

3 fact:
Some of P2PB2B clients have special conditions that motivate them to trade and make various kinds of transfers using P2PB2B exchange, but unfortunately the legal department points on the NDA.

4 fact:
All accusations in these two topics have no evidence or facts, only words.

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3. Minus trust from logfiles and Pamoldar for konungbarber  topic: http://archive.is/DjmMe
4. konungbarber started this topic: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pb2bio-has-blocked-my-account-without-any-explanation-looks-like-scam-5166605

This person wrote that the problem has been solved.  But if he has problems, we can contact the user through his personal email and we will make every effort to solve it.  After unlocking the user account, there were no more messages, so we can assume that the problem is solved. Also we wrote anser earler in this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51959750
In any case we wrote him:

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5. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pb2b-exchange-in-trouble-and-showing-signs-of-insolvency-5172443 - minus trust from Royse777. Started by dopey
6. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pb2b-scam-selling-coins-they-dont-have-wash-trading-fraud-and-theft-5163367 - minus trust from dopey. Started by dopey

As Mr. Dopey mentioned in the topic-starting post, the withdrawal request was freezed due to divergence between the withdrawal amount and our financial records.  P2PB2B Security Service has initiated an investigation on this matter - unfortunately, we found that amount of THC, which was sold to this user was acquired in a non-legal way by the seller. Therefore, we rolled back the first deal of Mr. Dopey and all other deals.  The assets, which Mr. Dopey spent during these deals were fully returned to the main balance and already withdrawal.

We deeply regret that this incident occurred and acknowledge the difficulties that have been caused. In any case - this person received his money back

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7. Joe Public started this topic:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pb2b-scam-5190513

At first, he should write to the p2pb2b.io support service. Then we can solve his problem.
Before considering this allert relevant, let him provide at least some proofs.

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8. DENDOGODNED started this topic:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/beware-of-the-p2pb2b-exchange-5160442

Even considering the fact that this is his mistake, we can help him. If this person will provide his registration mailbox for support services, we can help him with returning. I would like to quote the words of one smart user. It's hard to add something here

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9. vejonkaren started this topics:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fraud-alert-p2pb2b-yet-another-russian-scam-exchange-5166081
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-alert-b2bp2p-exchange-is-stealing-your-money-5166049

He send 50 sem (minimum deposit) but there was still a commission of 0.005 sem. He make mistake and didn't count commission. And it's turned out that he make deposit with the amount that less than the minimum deposit and coins didn’t enter his account.
And after 32 hours we returned him 50 sem.

This user get back moneys - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51946092

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10. vejonkaren started this topic: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-alert-p2pb2b-exchange-provides-your-personal-data-to-third-parties-5169364
  
This accusation is based only on his assumption

This Russian-speaking person is a terrible boor, we will post screenshots of how he interacted with the support service. It is impossible to speak adequately with him.If you're interested, here is the translate:

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11.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53106551

 He did not indicate any proofs of what had happened. Similar issues are resolved through the support service.
This topic posted from hacked account, more over - with negative trust:




PS:

vejonkaren -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=11725
It looks like an account that is bought or hacked:

Date Registered: May 08, 2011
Password changed: August 15, 2018 https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=vejonkaren
Date first post: August 15, 2018