Topic: [p2pb2b.io] The next generation cryptocurrency exchange [IEO (STO) for Startups] - page 6. (Read 4537 times)

I just contact his support and got all answers in a few minutes. Even I am not satisfied with their rules.



I don't think that they can scam users out of millions of dollars because there's not so much money out there. 
though one dollar was taken on fraud It's not what we want to hear.

with all suspicious operations mentioned in the latest few posts and scam accusation section, this exchange does not provide a lot of reasons to use them.
For example, 24h withdrawal period is not normal for me and I guess for many people.
Withdrawal fee is 0.001BTC or 0.015ETH. WTF?
Almost every time when I try to use them, they going to maintenance.
Some of the major altcoins are not possible to withdraw.
also, I have doubts they have fake trading volume.

It is enough for me to leave p2pb2b exchange as a user and withdraw funds from there. (Withdraw successfully  )

Those automated answers the p2pb2b scammers send out saying to wait 3-10 days is not very professional at all.

Since many users have now connected the Coinsbit scam to the p2pb2b scam it is clear these scammers cannot and should not be trusted.

Maybe they are using the same tactics as they used on konungbarber when selective scamming. In that case they never expected the massive backlash and negative posts.

Hopefully both Coinsbit and p2pb2b will shut their businesses down or will be shut down by the authorities before they manage to scam their users out of millions of USD$

more and more users getting scammed by them.

they are withholding funds and reply to everyone by "please wait for 3- 10 days standard answers.

when you call them out on telegram, they block you for violating the rules.

not me but from their telegram by another user before I was blocked:

https://ibb.co/2W8JdWD

http://archive.is/DjmMe

the email conversation (https://imgur.com/a/ITs7lXL) is obvious stalling tactics nothing else. it's safe to say the try to steal your funds.

Thank you examplens for your kind words. I hope the whole community can rally around to protect each other from all scams and scammers and expose them whenever we see them.

I agree that your newbie vs newbie analogy is correct but p2pb2b have accepted/announced they blocked his account and then accepted/announced they unblocked it. Up until that part konungbarber has been honest.

About the alleged suspicious activity that was the reason to block the account, I can only say that they did not acknowledge his emails and requests for a solution. Between 1st July and 18th July they ignored him with the exception of a message saying his account was blocked because of alleged suspicious activity and a few other automated messages. Then on 18th July konungbarber  opened a scam thread here and within 4 days his account has been restored "after investigation".

To hold funds of a user for 23 days and only release the funds because of the negative publicity it brought upon them - is unacceptable.

If they really cared about their reputation they would never have let this issue get this far, they would have had better communication and they would have had not tried to selective scam the user konungbarber.

Add to that their fake volumes of trading $60 BILLION every year or $167 MILLION every day and their identical website to their sister website Coinsbit which has 8 sock-puppet users pumping the thread trying to generate fake buzz then it becomes clear these people cannot be trusted.

very strange exchange. holding funds in the deposit wallet for hours and the support replies like a robot. 3-10 days for a simple deposit.


Support:

 Hello dear customer!
 We will try to answer your question as soon as possible. Please tell about your problem in details.
 Provide your
 
 1)Coin ticker
 2)The number of sent coins
 3)Transaction hash

I provided all the information


Support:

Dear customer, please wait for reply. All the financial problems will be considered from 3 to 10 working days.

absolutely agree with you. I think there is still not enough proof of fraud. Also, everything is very suspicious.
I am using this exchange because I have a coin which is listed only there and I have doubts about his trading volume. It is based on my previous trading experience in many other exchanges


JollyGood I really respect your opinion, you are doing a great job to catch scammers. We have here konungbarber user without previous trust rating. Nothing more than p2pb2b.io. So there is a newbie against a newbie. Which word is true?
He says that account of konungbarber have suspicious activity, and this is a reason for account block. This explanation can be valid, we don't know.
The false accusation from vejonkaren is just as bad as a real scam.

After all, it's very easy to ruins someone reputation, but it's very hard to get it back. Also, poor communication here from p2pb2b was not helping. I did not get the impression that they were honest.

Not necessarily... put yourself in the shoes of the victim.

If an exchange that is inflating volumes to attract users decides to selectively scam you and decides to ignore all your requests for access to your funds from 1st July to 18th July and only acknowledges you after you open a scam thread here and then they "resolve" your issue on the 4th day by saying they "investigated the suspicious behaviour" and have now unlocked the account - it is not good enough.

The victim was frozen out of having access to his funds for 23 days and even though the p2pb2b.io user claims the account is unlocked we still have to hear from konungbarber for confirmation that he can withdraw his funds.

No, they unlocked the account because it has all come back to haunt them here and destroyed their reputation.

Just because a thief returns what they stole from their victim does not mean a scam accusation should be removed. I hope konungbarber does not remove the flag.

So far on checking out there 2 complaints about their service.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fraud-alert-p2pb2b-yet-another-russian-scam-exchange-5166081
http://archive.is/DjmMe

konungbarber issue said it was already solved I don't know the other hand.It isn't really enough to be cleared out directly
but gradual solving out those pending ones will be their best option if they would like to regain their reputation.

Not sure if it is as easy as that. I don't support nor oppose the flag, but i still find what p2pb2b did highly untrustworthy, whether or not they resolved the situation and made the victim whole or not.

I guess a Type-1 flag would suffice for that though.

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I'm actually not sure what the rules regarding this are. Is the victim required to remove the flag if he's made whole? I guess so?

Since konungbarber issue or problem got resolved then inform him that he should clear out that scam accusation for your trust rating would be neutralize and regain back your reputation.

Could you stop spread FUD.

p2pb2b.io is free of scam.

Hello, konungbarber.

Hope you are doing great as well.

Your account was blocked because of suspicious activity in the time of user's complaints about 2FA shutdown. Account is unlocked now because no violations were found. As apologies for long waiting, your trading fee will be lower for three months.

Logged in today at 02:53:50 PM. I do believe he checks all the topics. The moment of truth for the serial scammer is when he forced to delete all the bitcointalk post. Just like honeycrypto did.

The p2pb2b.io username is not logging in here any more since they were exposed in the forum.

I always suspected them after I exposed them last year (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48239174) but it took others to post here about being scammed before things really took off and helped bring about the downfall of the Coinsbit and P2PB2BN scammers

Well it is understandable that Coinmarketcap and others like it do not monitor any forums because they would never be able to check all the posts on all websites and forums but if people did contact Coinmarketcap in large numbers maybe they would take notice.

So many exchanges inflate their trade volumes with the hope of trying to impress and attract new users. When it comes to filing their accounts I wonder what they put on their taxations. If P2PB2B for example shows it trades over $60 BILLION per annum then no way will it show that in official documents because they would have to pay relevant tax on earnings.

Just a margin of 0.05% on $60 BILLION worth of trades leaves a pre-tax income of $ MILLIONS

These scammers should drop their heads in shame when they pay 45 EURO a year to rent a London mailing address which they show as their "Headquarter". That same mailing address has 800 other companies registered there that are trying to impress their customers and users too. Real companies do not do that, scammers do  





Their "headquarter" is a mailing-address-for-hire that has 801 "companies" doing the same thing by pretending they have an office and business in a prestigious part of London, UK:
https://suite.endole.co.uk/explorer/postcode/w1u-6tu


Both Coinsbit and P2PB2B amazingly use the same software and "shared" the same team yet still make identical updates to their websites at the same time.

Amazingly they have a 24/7 support team that are fluent in the following languages: English, Chinese (Mandarin), Japanese, Russian, Indonesian, Spanish, German in that order ! (P2PB2B also added Korean) yet claim they are not connected.

No. Coinmarketcap doesn't care about disputes opened on bitcointalk. For good reasons: they would need to monitor every forum for every dispute, without verifying authenticity etc it's just not doable.

And.. Otherwise YoBit et al would've been removed a long time ago.


But.... P2PB2P can be removed if coinmarketcap thinks they are providing fake volumes; https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinmarketcap-to-remove-exchanges-from-calculations-if-they-dont-provide-mandatory-data

(But they're really slow to act on this, if they do so at all.)

Just wondering, can they be excluded from the coinmarketcap in case of user compain regarding "red flag" matter?

UPD: maybe cmc can add something like red flag too?

I think we have just thwarted their plans.

They probably wanted to build up a long term plan to gain as many users as possible before scamming by shutting down their exchanges Coinsbit and P2PB2B. Now both the scam websites have been exposed as scams and the previous history that connects both websites is clear too. They cannot even be bothered to come here and defend themselves because they know they will never be trusted again.

https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/coinsbit/  $84,380,132   or  8,213 BTC volume  (#81,581  ALEXA RANK - https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/coinsbit.io)
https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/p2pb2b/   $157,034,682 or 15,267 BTC volume  (#68,256 ALEXA RANK - https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/p2pb2b.io)

Coinsbit and P2PB2B are a bunch of lying scammers, both websites operated by the same scammers. Both lying about the amount of trade they do.

Coinsbit claim they trade over $30 BILLION a year, or $84 million per day
P2PB2B  claim they trade over $60 BILLION a year, or $167 million per day

there is a connection between coinsbit and p2pb2b exchange and many reports that they are selectively scamming users, be carefull guys