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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on September 21, 2017, 08:34:33 PM

As much as I would love to see Senator Manny to fight Horn again, I would rather see another opponent than Horn, specially if the fight will be staged at Australia again. If there will be a Paquaio Vs Mayweather 2 that would be awesome but I hope there would be more action unlike their first meeting.

That Mayweather - Pacquiao 2 match is not very visible for now and many did forget about this match as Mayweather isn't open with any negotiations with the PacMan team. Floyd seems to be a fighter for money and not a fighter for his own reputation. His money is his reputation and he is a social climber. I just really hated it when I saw him win against Pacquiao, I hate that decision.

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After Canelo vs GGG, Manny Pacquiao went on twitter and said:

Manny Pacquiao: "Did they bring these judges over from australia?" Cheesy

I haven't seen Canelo vs GGG yet. With everyone saying GGG won and was robbed by the judges, I thought that was a hysterical comment from Pacman.

Definitely looking forward to this rematch. So far behind on my tape watching, I still haven't seen the first one. Need to step up my game.

I saw the Canelo vs GGG fight and if you have not then you should do it was a good fight, but I do not think he was robbed, the fight was a close fight, some people saw Canelo winning the fight and some people saw the opposite, personally I saw GGG winning the fight 115 vs 113 and that was one of the scores of the judges but since the fight was so close I do not think anyone was robbed.

Yeah, i agree with you. The fight was close. I feel the sense of urgency of Canelo at the final round and i think he gets it. Canelo just gassed out after the first half of the fight. GGG did a good job to come back at the second half of the fight. And i think GGG was ahead before the final round 6-5 to GGG. But Canelo got the equalizer. So i think it's a draw. I just don't like the 110-118 score tho. This is clearly proves that boxing is corrupt as hell. These kind of judges should be ban on any matches. It's a disgrace to the sport.

Yeah I thought the same, when the first score was read and the announcer said 118-110, I was like none of the fighters won that many rounds what is he thinking? The two other scores the one that gave the win to GGG and the one with the draw were a lot more close to what happened on the ring.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on September 21, 2017, 08:34:33 PM

As much as I would love to see Senator Manny to fight Horn again, I would rather see another opponent than Horn, specially if the fight will be staged at Australia again. If there will be a Paquaio Vs Mayweather 2 that would be awesome but I hope there would be more action unlike their first meeting.

Pacquiao vs Mayweather 2? It's impossible for now since the latter already discussed that his last fight would be the bout that happened between him and McGregor. (source: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2728134-floyd-mayweather-says-conor-mcgregor-fight-is-his-last-talks-legacy-on-call). What I'm excited to see is for Horn to fight Pacquiao's long time rival Marquez. I want to see if Horn could also pump a win on Marquez, which basically one of the fighters that gave the hardest fights for Pacman. (and if possible, I hope it wouldn't be hosted on Australia)

Well Juan Marquez is already retired and I don't think that he will come back anytime. He already scored a devastating KO win against Pacman and that he's legacy. He has somewhat bragging rights for KO Pacman. I think Horn vs Vargas, or Horn vs Bradley will also be a good test for the champion.

And as far as May-Pac 2? Nah, those two are already in the twilight of their career and as much as Pacman loves a rematch, Mayweather wouldn't do it. He already cemented his legacy with a 50-0 record and will retire for good.

Really he's already retired? what a sad news. I thought I could watch Marquez to fight again. I see, that's why I haven't heard any news on his next fight. If he only can return back and fight Horn, it will be a must-watch fight for the boxing community. Honestly, I like Marquez fights than Mayweather's. The chances for knockouts are higher than those hugging/defend moments of Mayweather.

Yes, Marquez has been long retired mate. But I think Arum and Pacquaio are trying to lure him to come back and fight Pacquaio once again. We all know the history between the two and Pacquaio really wants to avenged his devastating lost to him. But unfortunately, Marquez won't budged because he win by KO although some say that Marquez is roided as fucked when they fight. You may want to google his physique before and during the fight and see it for your self. He even had Memo in him the guy who is associated with the BALCO scandal in sports.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on September 21, 2017, 08:34:33 PM

As much as I would love to see Senator Manny to fight Horn again, I would rather see another opponent than Horn, specially if the fight will be staged at Australia again. If there will be a Paquaio Vs Mayweather 2 that would be awesome but I hope there would be more action unlike their first meeting.

Pacquiao vs Mayweather 2? It's impossible for now since the latter already discussed that his last fight would be the bout that happened between him and McGregor. (source: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2728134-floyd-mayweather-says-conor-mcgregor-fight-is-his-last-talks-legacy-on-call). What I'm excited to see is for Horn to fight Pacquiao's long time rival Marquez. I want to see if Horn could also pump a win on Marquez, which basically one of the fighters that gave the hardest fights for Pacman. (and if possible, I hope it wouldn't be hosted on Australia)

Well Juan Marquez is already retired and I don't think that he will come back anytime. He already scored a devastating KO win against Pacman and that he's legacy. He has somewhat bragging rights for KO Pacman. I think Horn vs Vargas, or Horn vs Bradley will also be a good test for the champion.

And as far as May-Pac 2? Nah, those two are already in the twilight of their career and as much as Pacman loves a rematch, Mayweather wouldn't do it. He already cemented his legacy with a 50-0 record and will retire for good.

Really he's already retired? what a sad news. I thought I could watch Marquez to fight again. I see, that's why I haven't heard any news on his next fight. If he only can return back and fight Horn, it will be a must-watch fight for the boxing community. Honestly, I like Marquez fights than Mayweather's. The chances for knockouts are higher than those hugging/defend moments of Mayweather.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on September 21, 2017, 08:34:33 PM

As much as I would love to see Senator Manny to fight Horn again, I would rather see another opponent than Horn, specially if the fight will be staged at Australia again. If there will be a Paquaio Vs Mayweather 2 that would be awesome but I hope there would be more action unlike their first meeting.

Pacquiao vs Mayweather 2? It's impossible for now since the latter already discussed that his last fight would be the bout that happened between him and McGregor. (source: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2728134-floyd-mayweather-says-conor-mcgregor-fight-is-his-last-talks-legacy-on-call). What I'm excited to see is for Horn to fight Pacquiao's long time rival Marquez. I want to see if Horn could also pump a win on Marquez, which basically one of the fighters that gave the hardest fights for Pacman. (and if possible, I hope it wouldn't be hosted on Australia)

Well Juan Marquez is already retired and I don't think that he will come back anytime. He already scored a devastating KO win against Pacman and that he's legacy. He has somewhat bragging rights for KO Pacman. I think Horn vs Vargas, or Horn vs Bradley will also be a good test for the champion.

And as far as May-Pac 2? Nah, those two are already in the twilight of their career and as much as Pacman loves a rematch, Mayweather wouldn't do it. He already cemented his legacy with a 50-0 record and will retire for good.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on September 21, 2017, 08:34:33 PM

As much as I would love to see Senator Manny to fight Horn again, I would rather see another opponent than Horn, specially if the fight will be staged at Australia again. If there will be a Paquaio Vs Mayweather 2 that would be awesome but I hope there would be more action unlike their first meeting.

Pacquiao vs Mayweather 2? It's impossible for now since the latter already discussed that his last fight would be the bout that happened between him and McGregor. (source: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2728134-floyd-mayweather-says-conor-mcgregor-fight-is-his-last-talks-legacy-on-call). What I'm excited to see is for Horn to fight Pacquiao's long time rival Marquez. I want to see if Horn could also pump a win on Marquez, which basically one of the fighters that gave the hardest fights for Pacman. (and if possible, I hope it wouldn't be hosted on Australia)

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As much as I would love to see Senator Manny to fight Horn again, I would rather see another opponent than Horn, specially if the fight will be staged at Australia again. If there will be a Paquaio Vs Mayweather 2 that would be awesome but I hope there would be more action unlike their first meeting.

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Quote from: South Park on September 20, 2017, 06:10:43 PM

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After Canelo vs GGG, Manny Pacquiao went on twitter and said:

Manny Pacquiao: "Did they bring these judges over from australia?" Cheesy

I haven't seen Canelo vs GGG yet. With everyone saying GGG won and was robbed by the judges, I thought that was a hysterical comment from Pacman.

Definitely looking forward to this rematch. So far behind on my tape watching, I still haven't seen the first one. Need to step up my game.

I saw the Canelo vs GGG fight and if you have not then you should do it was a good fight, but I do not think he was robbed, the fight was a close fight, some people saw Canelo winning the fight and some people saw the opposite, personally I saw GGG winning the fight 115 vs 113 and that was one of the scores of the judges but since the fight was so close I do not think anyone was robbed.

Yeah, i agree with you. The fight was close. I feel the sense of urgency of Canelo at the final round and i think he gets it. Canelo just gassed out after the first half of the fight. GGG did a good job to come back at the second half of the fight. And i think GGG was ahead before the final round 6-5 to GGG. But Canelo got the equalizer. So i think it's a draw. I just don't like the 110-118 score tho. This is clearly proves that boxing is corrupt as hell. These kind of judges should be ban on any matches. It's a disgrace to the sport.

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Quote from: South Park on September 20, 2017, 06:10:43 PM

Quote from: Hydrogen on September 17, 2017, 06:31:31 PM

After Canelo vs GGG, Manny Pacquiao went on twitter and said:

Manny Pacquiao: "Did they bring these judges over from australia?" Cheesy

I haven't seen Canelo vs GGG yet. With everyone saying GGG won and was robbed by the judges, I thought that was a hysterical comment from Pacman.

Definitely looking forward to this rematch. So far behind on my tape watching, I still haven't seen the first one. Need to step up my game.

I saw the Canelo vs GGG fight and if you have not then you should do it was a good fight, but I do not think he was robbed, the fight was a close fight, some people saw Canelo winning the fight and some people saw the opposite, personally I saw GGG winning the fight 115 vs 113 and that was one of the scores of the judges but since the fight was so close I do not think anyone was robbed.

I agree with you, it cannot compared to the fight of manny because clearly manny won the fight and the fact that the ref give horn a unanimous decision, that is clearly a robbed. The fight of GGG vs Canelo was indeed an entertaining fight and I'm watching it live and based on my scorecard Canelo won the fight as he is doing well in the 2nd half of the rounds.

No problem we can agree to disagree Grin

, but this show to us how close the fight was, when the fight ended I as immediately thinking there was going to be another fight no matter who lost, and then when I found it was an official draw I knew that a rematch was going to happen since both fighters probably thought that they won.

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Quote from: South Park on September 20, 2017, 06:10:43 PM

Quote from: Hydrogen on September 17, 2017, 06:31:31 PM

After Canelo vs GGG, Manny Pacquiao went on twitter and said:

Manny Pacquiao: "Did they bring these judges over from australia?" Cheesy

I haven't seen Canelo vs GGG yet. With everyone saying GGG won and was robbed by the judges, I thought that was a hysterical comment from Pacman.

Definitely looking forward to this rematch. So far behind on my tape watching, I still haven't seen the first one. Need to step up my game.

I saw the Canelo vs GGG fight and if you have not then you should do it was a good fight, but I do not think he was robbed, the fight was a close fight, some people saw Canelo winning the fight and some people saw the opposite, personally I saw GGG winning the fight 115 vs 113 and that was one of the scores of the judges but since the fight was so close I do not think anyone was robbed.

I agree No one was was robbed on that fight, it was a staged fight Grin

. Winner is already decided right before they stepped inside the ring. That is boxing, a business and not a sport. I used to think that boxing indeed is a way of fair judging but i made a conclusion that majority of the boxing matches was rigged. Including championship fights. They just want to make things sensationa and controversial so that money will flow in. Look at that mayweather vs mcgregor fight, that was a complete joke.

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Quote from: South Park on September 20, 2017, 06:10:43 PM

Quote from: Hydrogen on September 17, 2017, 06:31:31 PM

After Canelo vs GGG, Manny Pacquiao went on twitter and said:

Manny Pacquiao: "Did they bring these judges over from australia?" Cheesy

I haven't seen Canelo vs GGG yet. With everyone saying GGG won and was robbed by the judges, I thought that was a hysterical comment from Pacman.

Definitely looking forward to this rematch. So far behind on my tape watching, I still haven't seen the first one. Need to step up my game.

I saw the Canelo vs GGG fight and if you have not then you should do it was a good fight, but I do not think he was robbed, the fight was a close fight, some people saw Canelo winning the fight and some people saw the opposite, personally I saw GGG winning the fight 115 vs 113 and that was one of the scores of the judges but since the fight was so close I do not think anyone was robbed.

I agree with you, it cannot compared to the fight of manny because clearly manny won the fight and the fact that the ref give horn a unanimous decision, that is clearly a robbed. The fight of GGG vs Canelo was indeed an entertaining fight and I'm watching it live and based on my scorecard Canelo won the fight as he is doing well in the 2nd half of the rounds.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on September 17, 2017, 06:31:31 PM

After Canelo vs GGG, Manny Pacquiao went on twitter and said:

Manny Pacquiao: "Did they bring these judges over from australia?" Cheesy

I haven't seen Canelo vs GGG yet. With everyone saying GGG won and was robbed by the judges, I thought that was a hysterical comment from Pacman.

Definitely looking forward to this rematch. So far behind on my tape watching, I still haven't seen the first one. Need to step up my game.

I saw the Canelo vs GGG fight and if you have not then you should do it was a good fight, but I do not think he was robbed, the fight was a close fight, some people saw Canelo winning the fight and some people saw the opposite, personally I saw GGG winning the fight 115 vs 113 and that was one of the scores of the judges but since the fight was so close I do not think anyone was robbed.

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Well in hindsight, I think even Arum knows that Pac is going to lose that match due to the judges. You can see his reaction when Pac lost to Bradley in their first fight which was also controversial. Arum raised hell during that time. However, when Pac lost against Horn, he did not even blink. He is just milking Pac until Pac hits retirement.

Bob Arum is trying to milk Pacquiao to the last drop. How we wished that rematch with Horn would have happened sooner than later because as Pacquiao is getting older, Horn is getting more matured and gaining more experience. But whatever happens, win or lose, Pacquiao would still have his fair share of the earnings, so would Uncle Bob. It's all business for these guys nowadays, because both Pacman and Bob Arum are in the twilights of their career and life, respectively.

Manny is a lot better boxer than Jeff. This news have been in the air for a long time now and I think it was going to be hell in Philippines or maybe Brisbane and the date was 9 December. It is far and away from the present date and most probably the rematch would be a fair one.

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This will be a disgrace for Mr. Pacquaio if ever he losses again for the second time against Horn. I'm thinking if the boxing industry wants to build another Floyd Mayweather, I mean a fighter that has 0 loss. And I can see it possible with Horn, this industry now is not entertaining anymore as it's obvious that they are for promotion, PPV and other shares.

That's really the problem the boxing industry is no longer enjoyable as we seen more and more unexpected decision I'm not an analyst but just by watching those games we will be able to say that someone didn't do their job with the judge around.

It's Horn's home court many did noticed that fight was a cooking show and it's really disappointing for those people that are expecting fair judgement. But we aren't the judges there and we don't know how they are giving points to that game. I'm not going to put any single money on that fight anymore unless the fight's venue will not be on Australia again, I don't trust their judging.

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Quote from: Flor1982 on September 19, 2017, 04:21:38 AM

The very prime of Pacquaio is over his body is old he should retire now, he is very rich and a senator nothing more to prove. I heard he will plan to run for vice president in the Philippines better he retires and focus on politics to focus of helping his people. He must accept he was defeated by younger opponent Horn like Pacquiao VS Barerra before.

Everyone is talking about his retirement and I think Manny is aware of it and the love of his life wants him to retire too. I don't know if those rumors that are coming out for his presidency is for real, who knows? He got fame and money he has a chance but voters will still have the decision if they want to vote him as president just because his a well known boxer or he got what it takes to be a father of a country.

Pacquiao as a president seems to be a bit of a stretch for me. Even if he is popular, it takes more that to lead and govern a nation of over 100 million. He isn’t even a great senator and many are doubting if he is even qualified as a public official. There’s no doubt that he has good intentions in helping his country men but it’s gonna take more than that to solve the problems that’s been plaguing the Philippines for many decades now. If you ask me, he should just stick to boxing or become an ambassador for sports or wherever he could make a signifant change.

Tried to research some of his charity works and most of them aren't in the main stream. Well guys we are getting far from Horn vs. Pacquiao match now to his political ambition. We should be in the politics and society talking about Pacquiao's ambition or rumors about his run for higher positions. But if you are saying that he isn't a great senator, I will not agree on it. He's been actively joining investigations and sharing his point of views regarding the cases they are investigating.

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Quote from: Hexah on September 19, 2017, 10:00:32 PM

I agree with this one and it really irritating to see that even it's not a good fight then but everything is for money they just do it. But on the case of Pacquiao vs. Horn fight I think they are serious with it and even though I am a pure Filipino I think Horn is the deserving winner of the fight even though many bashed him in the media. Pacquiao should accept the fact that his getting geezer and maybe he should retire if ever there is a rematch between Horn again no matter he wins or lose in the fight. He have done enough of the country and we are proud of it. I agree also there should be a rematch to settle down the negative ambiance in the media because of their fight.

Manny Pacquiao already announced his retirement before and even said that he would just focus in politics but then again he just return again and fight. I think the fight vs. Horn should push through because there are many issues about it saying that Manny is the true winner on that fight and because it was held on Horn's home country so it was home country decision something like that. Pacman should prove that he is the true winner in the rematch and the fight should be held in a country where neither of the two resides.

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Quote from: cleygaux on September 19, 2017, 07:57:14 PM

Quote from: blockman on September 19, 2017, 05:53:36 AM

This will be a disgrace for Mr. Pacquaio if ever he losses again for the second time against Horn. I'm thinking if the boxing industry wants to build another Floyd Mayweather, I mean a fighter that has 0 loss. And I can see it possible with Horn, this industry now is not entertaining anymore as it's obvious that they are for promotion, PPV and other shares.

It will be a total disgrace but Bob Arum will not let it happen if this fight will push through in November in the Philippines or in any venue Im sure that Manny will win this time because boxing this days is not all about pride and honor anymore its a business its all about money .

I agree with this one and it really irritating to see that even it's not a good fight then but everything is for money they just do it. But on the case of Pacquiao vs. Horn fight I think they are serious with it and even though I am a pure Filipino I think Horn is the deserving winner of the fight even though many bashed him in the media. Pacquiao should accept the fact that his getting geezer and maybe he should retire if ever there is a rematch between Horn again no matter he wins or lose in the fight. He have done enough of the country and we are proud of it. I agree also there should be a rematch to settle down the negative ambiance in the media because of their fight.

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Quote from: cleygaux on September 19, 2017, 07:57:14 PM

Quote from: blockman on September 19, 2017, 05:53:36 AM

This will be a disgrace for Mr. Pacquaio if ever he losses again for the second time against Horn. I'm thinking if the boxing industry wants to build another Floyd Mayweather, I mean a fighter that has 0 loss. And I can see it possible with Horn, this industry now is not entertaining anymore as it's obvious that they are for promotion, PPV and other shares.

It will be a total disgrace but Bob Arum will not let it happen if this fight will push through in November in the Philippines or in any venue Im sure that Manny will win this time because boxing this days is not all about pride and honor anymore its a business its all about money .

I think Pacquiao has been milked already by Arum and already a dispensable item to him if you are going to ask me. And Pacquiao has been given cold treated by Arum already. And I read that the last fight with Horn is Manny's final fight in the contract with Top Rank. And maybe in the rematch, Arum is bargaining that's why the rematch did not push through. Maybe Arum has found his new cash cow with Horn already. And I also believes that Terrence Crawford is also Top's Rank new cash now. Boxing is not the same anymore. Its all about making the most money in every fight.

If that is so, then Manny Pacquiao should retire after a rematch with Horn win or lose, if the fight will really goes as plan next year in the Philippines. We already seen Manny becoming a household name in the US for boxing fans. He has done his share to bring back boxing in the mainstream. As far as that old slimy and greedy Arum, he can't find any cash cow with the likes of Manny not stateside. Crawford is good, very very good, but I don't think he can attained what Manny has done to the boxing world. There's only one Manny Pacquaio.

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Quote from: cleygaux on September 19, 2017, 07:57:14 PM

Quote from: blockman on September 19, 2017, 05:53:36 AM

This will be a disgrace for Mr. Pacquaio if ever he losses again for the second time against Horn. I'm thinking if the boxing industry wants to build another Floyd Mayweather, I mean a fighter that has 0 loss. And I can see it possible with Horn, this industry now is not entertaining anymore as it's obvious that they are for promotion, PPV and other shares.

It will be a total disgrace but Bob Arum will not let it happen if this fight will push through in November in the Philippines or in any venue Im sure that Manny will win this time because boxing this days is not all about pride and honor anymore its a business its all about money .

I think Pacquiao has been milked already by Arum and already a dispensable item to him if you are going to ask me. And Pacquiao has been given cold treated by Arum already. And I read that the last fight with Horn is Manny's final fight in the contract with Top Rank. And maybe in the rematch, Arum is bargaining that's why the rematch did not push through. Maybe Arum has found his new cash cow with Horn already. And I also believes that Terrence Crawford is also Top's Rank new cash now. Boxing is not the same anymore. Its all about making the most money in every fight.

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Quote from: blockman on September 19, 2017, 05:53:36 AM

This will be a disgrace for Mr. Pacquaio if ever he losses again for the second time against Horn. I'm thinking if the boxing industry wants to build another Floyd Mayweather, I mean a fighter that has 0 loss. And I can see it possible with Horn, this industry now is not entertaining anymore as it's obvious that they are for promotion, PPV and other shares.

It will be a total disgrace but Bob Arum will not let it happen if this fight will push through in November in the Philippines or in any venue Im sure that Manny will win this time because boxing this days is not all about pride and honor anymore its a business its all about money .

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