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Well in hindsight, I think even Arum knows that Pac is going to lose that match due to the judges. You can see his reaction when Pac lost to Bradley in their first fight which was also controversial. Arum raised hell during that time. However, when Pac lost against Horn, he did not even blink. He is just milking Pac until Pac hits retirement.

You hit it mate, this is why Arum is trying to make more money out of Manny before his retirement and this match can rake again millions-billion of dollars before Manny settles down and announces his retirement. But this fight is been awaiting by many boxing fans all over the world. Arum knows how to promote and even Manny loses on those matches, he can still make money.

Yes nothing to loose with manny if in terms of money. A lot of interviews, advertisment and higher offer for every match. But I'll still bet on manny if the rematch will happen.

I know Manny's guts has been also affected and he has something in his feeling about his last fight but he just let the people see that he's feeling well. But every match of Manny he's been earning a lot out of those things that you had mentioned. Is there any news out there on the specific date and venue of the match or still not discussed by both parties?

According to the media, there hasn't been any decision regarding the the rescheduling on the match between the two boxers, I have my doubts whether the rematch is going to happen this year but it should happen since i don't believe they are a lot of big game boxing bouts slated for this year.

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Quote from: South Park on September 16, 2017, 01:19:33 PM

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What can you say about this rematch? The match is locked on but there will be things to be set before settling an exact date and venue.
Source : http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/40972273

To be honest I think he should retire, he already won as much money as he wanted was one of the best and now he must concentrate in other things, this seems like a matter of honer to me since he was robbed in the last fight but there is not a guarantee that he is not going to be robbed once again.

Many rumors out there that this will be his last fight and after winning or losing this match his on his way to politics, focusing in it. Move on mate, that last fight's decision won't change, a lose is a lose and this is the chance that he can correct those judges decision by knocking out Horn. Do you even think what if the fight will be on Australia again and Manny knocks him out?

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Quote from: eagleman on August 22, 2017, 06:44:35 AM

What can you say about this rematch? The match is locked on but there will be things to be set before settling an exact date and venue.
Source : http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/40972273

To be honest I think he should retire, he already won as much money as he wanted was one of the best and now he must concentrate in other things, this seems like a matter of honor to me since he was robbed in the last fight but there is not a guarantee that he is not going to be robbed once again.

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Well in hindsight, I think even Arum knows that Pac is going to lose that match due to the judges. You can see his reaction when Pac lost to Bradley in their first fight which was also controversial. Arum raised hell during that time. However, when Pac lost against Horn, he did not even blink. He is just milking Pac until Pac hits retirement.

Bob Arum is trying to milk Pacquiao to the last drop. How we wished that rematch with Horn would have happened sooner than later because as Pacquiao is getting older, Horn is getting more matured and gaining more experience. But whatever happens, win or lose, Pacquiao would still have his fair share of the earnings, so would Uncle Bob. It's all business for these guys nowadays, because both Pacman and Bob Arum are in the twilights of their career and life, respectively.

Bob Arum has always been the money so has been everyone invested in the boxing industry, because it has become a industry where fighters just look for the highest paying fight. Back then you would have guys like Julio Cesar Chavez fighting the best all the time and all their prime.

But you can't blame them, you have a limited time in fighting and you must make as much money while you are still sharp.

Pacquiao should fight again and then retire. I wouldn't like to retire with a loss if I was a pro.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 16, 2017, 07:45:47 AM

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Quote from: boyptc on September 15, 2017, 04:04:43 AM

Quote from: karmakeddon on September 15, 2017, 12:42:52 AM

Well in hindsight, I think even Arum knows that Pac is going to lose that match due to the judges. You can see his reaction when Pac lost to Bradley in their first fight which was also controversial. Arum raised hell during that time. However, when Pac lost against Horn, he did not even blink. He is just milking Pac until Pac hits retirement.

You hit it mate, this is why Arum is trying to make more money out of Manny before his retirement and this match can rake again millions-billion of dollars before Manny settles down and announces his retirement. But this fight is been awaiting by many boxing fans all over the world. Arum knows how to promote and even Manny loses on those matches, he can still make money.

Yes nothing to loose with manny if in terms of money. A lot of interviews, advertisment and higher offer for every match. But I'll still bet on manny if the rematch will happen.

I know Manny's guts has been also affected and he has something in his feeling about his last fight but he just let the people see that he's feeling well. But every match of Manny he's been earning a lot out of those things that you had mentioned. Is there any news out there on the specific date and venue of the match or still not discussed by both parties?

There are rumors that Pacquiao's camp still hasn't decided if they are pushing onto the rematch due to his responsibilities at the Philippine Senate. Even though Pacquiao confirmed that there would definitely have a rematch. The original plan for the rematch is that the match is set at the Philippine Arena but Horn's promoter is against it and wanted to pursue the match at their hometown again. It's better for Pacquiao to focus on his current job as a Senator. There's is nothing for him to prove, He already has the glory, fame and the money. Though Boxing became a business nowadays and money will have a be a huge factor or advantage in winning a match.

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Quote from: paul00 on September 15, 2017, 05:33:17 AM

Quote from: boyptc on September 15, 2017, 04:04:43 AM

Quote from: karmakeddon on September 15, 2017, 12:42:52 AM

Well in hindsight, I think even Arum knows that Pac is going to lose that match due to the judges. You can see his reaction when Pac lost to Bradley in their first fight which was also controversial. Arum raised hell during that time. However, when Pac lost against Horn, he did not even blink. He is just milking Pac until Pac hits retirement.

You hit it mate, this is why Arum is trying to make more money out of Manny before his retirement and this match can rake again millions-billion of dollars before Manny settles down and announces his retirement. But this fight is been awaiting by many boxing fans all over the world. Arum knows how to promote and even Manny loses on those matches, he can still make money.

Yes nothing to loose with manny if in terms of money. A lot of interviews, advertisment and higher offer for every match. But I'll still bet on manny if the rematch will happen.

I know Manny's guts has been also affected and he has something in his feeling about his last fight but he just let the people see that he's feeling well. But every match of Manny he's been earning a lot out of those things that you had mentioned. Is there any news out there on the specific date and venue of the match or still not discussed by both parties?

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Quote from: karmakeddon on September 15, 2017, 12:42:52 AM

Well in hindsight, I think even Arum knows that Pac is going to lose that match due to the judges. You can see his reaction when Pac lost to Bradley in their first fight which was also controversial. Arum raised hell during that time. However, when Pac lost against Horn, he did not even blink. He is just milking Pac until Pac hits retirement.

Bob Arum is trying to milk Pacquiao to the last drop. How we wished that rematch with Horn would have happened sooner than later because as Pacquiao is getting older, Horn is getting more matured and gaining more experience. But whatever happens, win or lose, Pacquiao would still have his fair share of the earnings, so would Uncle Bob. It's all business for these guys nowadays, because both Pacman and Bob Arum are in the twilights of their career and life, respectively.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 15, 2017, 04:04:43 AM

Quote from: karmakeddon on September 15, 2017, 12:42:52 AM

Well in hindsight, I think even Arum knows that Pac is going to lose that match due to the judges. You can see his reaction when Pac lost to Bradley in their first fight which was also controversial. Arum raised hell during that time. However, when Pac lost against Horn, he did not even blink. He is just milking Pac until Pac hits retirement.

You hit it mate, this is why Arum is trying to make more money out of Manny before his retirement and this match can rake again millions-billion of dollars before Manny settles down and announces his retirement. But this fight is been awaiting by many boxing fans all over the world. Arum knows how to promote and even Manny loses on those matches, he can still make money.

Yes nothing to loose with manny if in terms of money. A lot of interviews, advertisment and higher offer for every match. But I'll still bet on manny if the rematch will happen.

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Quote from: karmakeddon on September 15, 2017, 12:42:52 AM

Well in hindsight, I think even Arum knows that Pac is going to lose that match due to the judges. You can see his reaction when Pac lost to Bradley in their first fight which was also controversial. Arum raised hell during that time. However, when Pac lost against Horn, he did not even blink. He is just milking Pac until Pac hits retirement.

You hit it mate, this is why Arum is trying to make more money out of Manny before his retirement and this match can rake again millions-billion of dollars before Manny settles down and announces his retirement. But this fight is been awaiting by many boxing fans all over the world. Arum knows how to promote and even Manny loses on those matches, he can still make money.

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Well in hindsight, I think even Arum knows that Pac is going to lose that match due to the judges. You can see his reaction when Pac lost to Bradley in their first fight which was also controversial. Arum raised hell during that time. However, when Pac lost against Horn, he did not even blink. He is just milking Pac until Pac hits retirement.

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I think Pacquiao was waiting for their rematch this is what he wants to do and prove themselves to the people who really the champion and deserving. If they rematch Pacquiao will win, because their fight is questionable and most of people says and believe that Pacquiao will won on their fight. And we will know who really is the winner or the champion. Pacquiao become stronger when they rematch again and the champion of their rematch, they really needs to rematch.

No, he doesn't need to prove anything. He's already a title holder and the only one that holds 9 world titles at the same time. This is just about the money and most of the matches now in boxing are just all about money making, try to understand their industry and you'll find out what happen with Floyd vs. Conor and next will be Pacquiao and Horn.

Yes, its all about the money now. Unlike before were we can see promoters/boxers agreeing to fight regardless on what boxing body they are the champion. But now, its different, promoters match their fighters for big bucks and small risk. I guess it backfired on Arum and Pacquiao when Manny lost to Horn. And they are willing to fight again specially Horn because he knows that it will be his biggest payday when he fights Manny Pacquaio again.

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Quote from: marcuslong on September 14, 2017, 12:28:13 PM

They don't want to lose horn because they fight in horns country they don't want embarrassment that is why we see the difference of score and if paquiao will have rematch to horn hoping that it will be here in philippines so there will be no mafia and no one will cheat the entire scoring board lmao.

It's a shame if Horn will lose on his country way back to their first match. And now I guess this is just going to make the suggestion of people balance by providing a rematch and let the fight happened on Manny's country, Philippines. That's what I've heard too that there's a mafia behind it or we aren't the judge of that game so let just this rematch happen.

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Quote from: marcuslong on September 14, 2017, 12:28:13 PM

They don't want to lose horn because they fight in horns country they don't want embarrassment that is why we see the difference of score and if paquiao will have rematch to horn hoping that it will be here in philippines so there will be no mafia and no one will cheat the entire scoring board lmao.

This fight is staged eversince the first one. This is money maker for the promoter and boxing is established and governed by business not as being sports. The result of the upcoming fight is already known. So I think we are wasting our time thinking of the possible outcome of the game.

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Quote from: Noilee on September 12, 2017, 08:16:44 AM

I think Pacquiao was waiting for their rematch this is what he wants to do and prove themselves to the people who really the champion and deserving. If they rematch Pacquiao will win, because their fight is questionable and most of people says and believe that Pacquiao will won on their fight. And we will know who really is the winner or the champion. Pacquiao become stronger when they rematch again and the champion of their rematch, they really needs to rematch.

No, he doesn't need to prove anything. He's already a title holder and the only one that holds 9 world titles at the same time. This is just about the money and most of the matches now in boxing are just all about money making, try to understand their industry and you'll find out what happen with Floyd vs. Conor and next will be Pacquiao and Horn.

I agree Manny even with loses had established himself as the person to hold the most division title in the history of boxing, that record beats Floyd flawless record Grin

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They don't want to lose horn because they fight in horns country they don't want embarrassment that is why we see the difference of score and if paquiao will have rematch to horn hoping that it will be here in philippines so there will be no mafia and no one will cheat the entire scoring board lmao.

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Quote from: Noilee on September 12, 2017, 08:16:44 AM

I think Pacquiao was waiting for their rematch this is what he wants to do and prove themselves to the people who really the champion and deserving. If they rematch Pacquiao will win, because their fight is questionable and most of people says and believe that Pacquiao will won on their fight. And we will know who really is the winner or the champion. Pacquiao become stronger when they rematch again and the champion of their rematch, they really needs to rematch.

No, he doesn't need to prove anything. He's already a title holder and the only one that holds 9 world titles at the same time. This is just about the money and most of the matches now in boxing are just all about money making, try to understand their industry and you'll find out what happen with Floyd vs. Conor and next will be Pacquiao and Horn.

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Quote from: Noilee on September 12, 2017, 08:16:44 AM

I think Pacquiao was waiting for their rematch this is what he wants to do and prove themselves to the people who really the champion and deserving. If they rematch Pacquiao will win, because their fight is questionable and most of people says and believe that Pacquiao will won on their fight. And we will know who really is the winner or the champion. Pacquiao become stronger when they rematch again and the champion of their rematch, they really needs to rematch.

The rematch should not happen in Australia. A lot of people think that Australia judges ere rigged to make Horn win (Horn is Australian). Well this could be or not be true, but to better leave all the conspiracy theories out, the next match should happen in a neutral country, so not Phillipines and not Australia, any other place should do.

And recent news point that it will be in 2018:

http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-confirms-pacquiao-wants-horn-rematch-2018--120057

In addition to that, if they held it in the Philippines, the PPV would surely bombed. I consider Las Vegas would be a perfect venue for the fight. American boxing fans would be expose how Horn fight and that the first fight is no fluke, and for Pacquaio to really show the world that he has still has it. So early 2018 would be a good time as well. And just like you said, we want to see Manny destroy this guy for good and claim the belt back.

if fight would happen next year, i think Las Vegas is not viable for their rematch. both players are not attractive in the gate sales and ppv revenue to US households because none of them are Americans or Latino fighters and beside Pacquiao's boxing sensation is not as hot as before his great lose to Marquez. The other possible good venue is Dubai, their Royal Family offered their place to some of Pacquiao's previous fight maybe it is the right time to make it happen.

Why not Las Vegas? Las Vegas is the best place for match i would like to say that i would prefer Las Vegas.

I would rather believe that venues on where it would be held will be on Las Vegas or Dubai both place would be suit for the fight but speaking about on Philippines i dont think so that they would able to consider that thing but doesnt matter at all on what place it would be held as long we would able to see for this rematch to happen early next year.

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Quote from: Noilee on September 12, 2017, 08:16:44 AM

I think Pacquiao was waiting for their rematch this is what he wants to do and prove themselves to the people who really the champion and deserving. If they rematch Pacquiao will win, because their fight is questionable and most of people says and believe that Pacquiao will won on their fight. And we will know who really is the winner or the champion. Pacquiao become stronger when they rematch again and the champion of their rematch, they really needs to rematch.

The rematch should not happen in Australia. A lot of people think that Australia judges ere rigged to make Horn win (Horn is Australian). Well this could be or not be true, but to better leave all the conspiracy theories out, the next match should happen in a neutral country, so not Phillipines and not Australia, any other place should do.

And recent news point that it will be in 2018:

http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-confirms-pacquiao-wants-horn-rematch-2018--120057

In addition to that, if they held it in the Philippines, the PPV would surely bombed. I consider Las Vegas would be a perfect venue for the fight. American boxing fans would be expose how Horn fight and that the first fight is no fluke, and for Pacquaio to really show the world that he has still has it. So early 2018 would be a good time as well. And just like you said, we want to see Manny destroy this guy for good and claim the belt back.

if fight would happen next year, i think Las Vegas is not viable for their rematch. both players are not attractive in the gate sales and ppv revenue to US households because none of them are Americans or Latino fighters and beside Pacquiao's boxing sensation is not as hot as before his great lose to Marquez. The other possible good venue is Dubai, their Royal Family offered their place to some of Pacquiao's previous fight maybe it is the right time to make it happen.

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Quote from: thejaytiesto on September 14, 2017, 06:34:09 AM

Quote from: Noilee on September 12, 2017, 08:16:44 AM

I think Pacquiao was waiting for their rematch this is what he wants to do and prove themselves to the people who really the champion and deserving. If they rematch Pacquiao will win, because their fight is questionable and most of people says and believe that Pacquiao will won on their fight. And we will know who really is the winner or the champion. Pacquiao become stronger when they rematch again and the champion of their rematch, they really needs to rematch.

The rematch should not happen in Australia. A lot of people think that Australia judges ere rigged to make Horn win (Horn is Australian). Well this could be or not be true, but to better leave all the conspiracy theories out, the next match should happen in a neutral country, so not Phillipines and not Australia, any other place should do.

And recent news point that it will be in 2018:

http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-confirms-pacquiao-wants-horn-rematch-2018--120057

In addition to that, if they held it in the Philippines, the PPV would surely bombed. I consider Las Vegas would be a perfect venue for the fight. American boxing fans would be expose how Horn fight and that the first fight is no fluke, and for Pacquaio to really show the world that he has still has it. So early 2018 would be a good time as well. And just like you said, we want to see Manny destroy this guy for good and claim the belt back.

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Quote from: Noilee on September 12, 2017, 08:16:44 AM

I think Pacquiao was waiting for their rematch this is what he wants to do and prove themselves to the people who really the champion and deserving. If they rematch Pacquiao will win, because their fight is questionable and most of people says and believe that Pacquiao will won on their fight. And we will know who really is the winner or the champion. Pacquiao become stronger when they rematch again and the champion of their rematch, they really needs to rematch.

The rematch should not happen in Australia. A lot of people think that Australia judges ere rigged to make Horn win (Horn is Australian). Well this could be or not be true, but to better leave all the conspiracy theories out, the next match should happen in a neutral country, so not Phillipines and not Australia, any other place should do.

And recent news point that it will be in 2018:

http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-confirms-pacquiao-wants-horn-rematch-2018--120057

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I think Pacquiao was waiting for their rematch this is what he wants to do and prove themselves to the people who really the champion and deserving. If they rematch Pacquiao will win, because their fight is questionable and most of people says and believe that Pacquiao will won on their fight. And we will know who really is the winner or the champion. Pacquiao become stronger when they rematch again and the champion of their rematch, they really needs to rematch.

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