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Quote from: asu on August 02, 2019, 01:05:58 AM

Quote from: Harlot on August 01, 2019, 03:03:12 PM

Even Robert Garcia stated that its much harder to be a champion on eight different weight classes compared to being a 50-0 undefeated boxer. A coach who have been known to be against Pacquiao (He sided with Thurman picking him to win against Manny) have even agreed on that fact so I don't think you could argue with that. Oh and By the way Floyd was never an undefeated boxer he also experience a lost during his amateur career so I couldn't call him a true undefeated boxer.

Floyd is just a boxer who used to fight for money and compare to a truly living legend who played boxing because it is his passion and sports, totally different.

There’s also alot in the new era today in the boxing that is undefeated like Errol Spence and Terrence Crawford knowing that being a undefeated is a great accomplishment. And the fact that only one man in the history of boxing who holds 8 titles in different division are can truly be the hardest achievements that you can accomplished in the boxing history.

Whatever Manny has accomplished that would not help him to beat Floyd, Manny is just a risk taker and he doesn't care much about his record, what he wants is that he can entertain the crowd, and now if there will be a rematch, I'd like to know how would Manny entertain the crowd if he can't him Floyd?

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Quote from: Harlot on August 01, 2019, 03:03:12 PM

Even Robert Garcia stated that its much harder to be a champion on eight different weight classes compared to being a 50-0 undefeated boxer. A coach who have been known to be against Pacquiao (He sided with Thurman picking him to win against Manny) have even agreed on that fact so I don't think you could argue with that. Oh and By the way Floyd was never an undefeated boxer he also experience a lost during his amateur career so I couldn't call him a true undefeated boxer.

Floyd is just a boxer who used to fight for money and compare to a truly living legend who played boxing because it is his passion and sports, totally different.

There’s also alot in the new era today in the boxing that is undefeated like Errol Spence and Terrence Crawford knowing that being a undefeated is a great accomplishment. And the fact that only one man in the history of boxing who holds 8 titles in different division are can truly be the hardest achievements that you can accomplished in the boxing history.

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Quote from: Questat on August 01, 2019, 05:56:03 PM

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I was talking about Andy Ruiz Jr. the big and tall guy who beat Anthony Joshua this year, he was at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada live to watch Manny fight against Thurman and he was interviewed after the fight and he predicted Manny as the winner of the second fight against Mayweather.

I've never heard of any prediction and even that Ruiz guy, it's just my opinion.

Whatever is that, it's a mere coincidence.

Every boxer is entitled for an opinion, but Mayweather is just too good for Manny because he don't engage like Thurman and he is faster than Manny, of course taller, bigger, and stronger that is wise enough not to risk his undefeated record by not engaging much.

If we like to see a running show the whole 12 rounds, this is a good fight for us, the only happy moments if this will happen is when Manny wins but unlikely if Mayweather keeps running, probably same result with the previous fight.

People tend to describe Floyd's style of "running". He's an athlete and running is part of his footwork.

I know many have been annoyed with his move inside the ring but that's his strategy on how he had won against the people's champ.

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A business idea for Dana White, Al Haymon, Pacman and Floyd. Organize a boxing event with Floyd versus Khabib and Pacman versus Conor. The winners, which certainly will be Floyd and Pacman, will fight for the biggest purse in boxing history hehehehe!

I reckon it might also be Conor's opportunity of getting a rematch versus Khabib that he is always demanding from Dana.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on August 01, 2019, 06:31:12 PM

Quote from: Questat on August 01, 2019, 05:56:03 PM

Every boxer is entitled for an opinion, but Mayweather is just too good for Manny because he don't engage like Thurman and he is faster than Manny, of course taller, bigger, and stronger that is wise enough not to risk his undefeated record by not engaging much.

If we like to see a running show the whole 12 rounds, this is a good fight for us, the only happy moments if this will happen is when Manny wins but unlikely if Mayweather keeps running, probably same result with the previous fight.

I don't agree that Mayweather is too goo for Manny, his strategy is good but if he change his strategy and try to engage in a fight and slug it out with Manny the story maybe different. If both fighters are on their peak and on the same weight category, I think Manny will beat Floyd because of his quickness and style.

Manny was quicker the first time they met, but Floyd won via unanimous decision, I think people based on that past result a lot, unless you don't agree with the result.

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Quote from: Questat on August 01, 2019, 05:56:03 PM

Every boxer is entitled for an opinion, but Mayweather is just too good for Manny because he don't engage like Thurman and he is faster than Manny, of course taller, bigger, and stronger that is wise enough not to risk his undefeated record by not engaging much.

If we like to see a running show the whole 12 rounds, this is a good fight for us, the only happy moments if this will happen is when Manny wins but unlikely if Mayweather keeps running, probably same result with the previous fight.

I don't agree that Mayweather is too goo for Manny, his strategy is good but if he change his strategy and try to engage in a fight and slug it out with Manny the story maybe different. If both fighters are on their peak and on the same weight category, I think Manny will beat Floyd because of his quickness and style.

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Quote from: boyptc on August 01, 2019, 06:55:55 AM

Quote from: suzanne5223 on July 31, 2019, 04:37:26 PM

I was talking about Andy Ruiz Jr. the big and tall guy who beat Anthony Joshua this year, he was at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada live to watch Manny fight against Thurman and he was interviewed after the fight and he predicted Manny as the winner of the second fight against Mayweather.

I've never heard of any prediction and even that Ruiz guy, it's just my opinion.

Whatever is that, it's a mere coincidence.

Every boxer is entitled for an opinion, but Mayweather is just too good for Manny because he don't engage like Thurman and he is faster than Manny, of course taller, bigger, and stronger that is wise enough not to risk his undefeated record by not engaging much.

If we like to see a running show the whole 12 rounds, this is a good fight for us, the only happy moments if this will happen is when Manny wins but unlikely if Mayweather keeps running, probably same result with the previous fight.

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Quote from: asu on August 01, 2019, 03:07:42 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on July 31, 2019, 10:43:05 PM

Floyd's undefeated record vs Manny Pacquiao's 8 division belt, which do you think is harder to accomplished? Grin

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There’s a lot of undefeated boxer in the history of boxing like Julio Cesar Chavez SR with having a standing of 89 wins and 0 losses, but until he makes a total of 115 fights before he retired 6 of that fights he got defeated. Still he accomplished more than from what Mayweather accomplished today.

Manny Pacquiao was the only 8 division world boxer and a truly living Legend. Cheesy

Even Robert Garcia stated that its much harder to be a champion on eight different weight classes compared to being a 50-0 undefeated boxer. A coach who have been known to be against Pacquiao (He sided with Thurman picking him to win against Manny) have even agreed on that fact so I don't think you could argue with that. Oh and By the way Floyd was never an undefeated boxer he also experience a lost during his amateur career so I couldn't call him a true undefeated boxer.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on July 31, 2019, 06:51:44 PM

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Quote from: peter0425 on July 31, 2019, 05:37:48 PM

How much money does Floyd want to fight Pacman again? hehehe. Everyone has a price, I remember when he was all bark when Canelo sign a $300 m with DAZN, That's the way he wanted to stay relevant. So if ever he was offered a one fight deal with Pacman with $300 m or more, I'm sure he will bite, Lol.

I've seen a stat on how much Manny Pacquiao earned during their fight with Floyd and it's a staggering $120-million. And with that fight, Floyd got a higher share because it's part of their deal. I don't know on how much he'd love to ask for the share if ever this fight will ever happen again. But that's for sure, he'll ask for a higher share again than Manny. He will not be called 'Money' if he's going to allow his opponent get a higher share than him.

I don't know when was the last time Floyd fought as an underdog but given the chance that they will fight again, Floyd still can dictate how much is his share since he won the first meeting, Manny will just accept whatever the terms being offered from Floyds camp since Manny is teh one running after Floyd to have a rematch. Too bad there is no rematch clause in the first contract.

Manny will actually go along with an acceptable share for this fight. But let's admit it that Floyd is Floyd and he's not just going to accept a fight without something that will actually benefit him. I agree with the rematch attached for the contract, if there is a note probably Floyd cannot reject if there will be in the future but that's it. No rematch indicated so he can just retire for real.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on July 31, 2019, 04:37:26 PM

I was talking about Andy Ruiz Jr. the big and tall guy who beat Anthony Joshua this year, he was at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada live to watch Manny fight against Thurman and he was interviewed after the fight and he predicted Manny as the winner of the second fight against Mayweather.

I've never heard of any prediction and even that Ruiz guy, it's just my opinion.

Whatever is that, it's a mere coincidence.

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Quote from: asu on August 01, 2019, 03:07:42 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on July 31, 2019, 10:43:05 PM

Floyd's undefeated record vs Manny Pacquiao's 8 division belt, which do you think is harder to accomplished? Grin

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There’s a lot of undefeated boxer in the history of boxing like Julio Cesar Chavez SR with having a standing of 89 wins and 0 losses, but until he makes a total of 115 fights before he retired 6 of that fights he got defeated. Still he accomplished more than from what Mayweather accomplished today.

You are right, mayweather thought being an undefeated would make him an automatic great fighter or a GOAT.

Quote from: asu on August 01, 2019, 03:07:42 AM

Manny Pacquiao was the only 8 division world boxer and a truly living Legend. Cheesy

That record will kill mayweather's undefeated record as only Manny has done that, he is a living legend who still fight champions at 40 years old.

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 31, 2019, 10:43:05 PM

Floyd's undefeated record vs Manny Pacquiao's 8 division belt, which do you think is harder to accomplished? Grin

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There’s a lot of undefeated boxer in the history of boxing like Julio Cesar Chavez SR with having a standing of 89 wins and 0 losses, but until he makes a total of 115 fights before he retired 6 of that fights he got defeated. Still he accomplished more than from what Mayweather accomplished today.

Manny Pacquiao was the only 8 division world boxer and a truly living Legend. Cheesy

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 30, 2019, 11:11:17 PM

@Kemarit. That will be an argument of a lifetime hehe. Also, it might be a quicker negotiation this time if Floyd and Manny decide yes on the rematch. Pacman has signed to be managed by Al Haymon beginning last year.

Yes, it will be a never ending debate as to who is really the best of that era. Floyd's undefeated record vs Manny Pacquiao's 8 division belt, which do you think is harder to accomplished? Grin

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It will be a quick negotiation if Floyd wanted to dance with Manny again. It's just a matter of how much they are going to offer Floyd.

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on July 31, 2019, 06:51:44 PM

I don't know when was the last time Floyd fought as an underdog but given the chance that they will fight again, Floyd still can dictate how much is his share since he won the first meeting, Manny will just accept whatever the terms being offered from Floyds camp since Manny is teh one running after Floyd to have a rematch. Too bad there is no rematch clause in the first contract.

It was against Oscar Dela Hoya if my memory serves me right. And once he defeated him, his stock when into another heights and we all know what happened after that. He change his monicker to "Pretty Boy" Floyd to "Money" Mayweather.

And Manny will be the B-side here, and Floyd will have all the bargaining power. But since Manny just wanted to show that he can fight and beat Floyd, I'm sure that he will accept that offer.

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Manny already move on since he already fought several boxers after the Floyd Mayweather fight. The only thing is, he wants a bigger pouch before going on a retirement in which he can only obtain through fighting Mayweather.

I don't think he already moved on since he is the one that wants the fight here.

Manny Pacquaio wants the fight, that means he is still at that rematch, whatever the reason is all we know is that Manny wants the fight. Freddie Roach said that Floyd is scared of Manny right now, taunt or not all I know is that I think Team Manny also wants the fight, they want the rematch and I guess that will really be the end of Manny's career as a boxer. After that rematch, I think I will not be surprised that we will be seeing him hanging his gloves to be a public servant or a coach but obviously, a father.

What I see in Senator Manny is that he really loved the game of boxing. He want's to give the fans a good fight inside the ring and not just run around like stick and move. If ever there will be a rematch between the two, expect that you will see the fight go through until round 12. Floyd is not a knockout artist, I expect that this will run until 12 round.

That is his straregy, that is how he play and boy how effective is that, he is undefeated.

I am not a fan of this guy since I want those boxers like Manny Pacquiao, I am a fan of them. Speaking of Pacquiao, a Youtuber posted this video, https://youtu.be/SxTTdCjrCYA , I do not know him but it is amazing. It is some of the new moves Pacquiao used against Keith, I noticed some of them while watching but I never knew it was something that amazing. He is still evolving, this is the reason I want to see another fight of Mayweather and Pacquiao.

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Quote from: peter0425 on July 31, 2019, 05:37:48 PM

How much money does Floyd want to fight Pacman again? hehehe. Everyone has a price, I remember when he was all bark when Canelo sign a $300 m with DAZN, That's the way he wanted to stay relevant. So if ever he was offered a one fight deal with Pacman with $300 m or more, I'm sure he will bite, Lol.

I've seen a stat on how much Manny Pacquiao earned during their fight with Floyd and it's a staggering $120-million. And with that fight, Floyd got a higher share because it's part of their deal. I don't know on how much he'd love to ask for the share if ever this fight will ever happen again. But that's for sure, he'll ask for a higher share again than Manny. He will not be called 'Money' if he's going to allow his opponent get a higher share than him.

I don't know when was the last time Floyd fought as an underdog but given the chance that they will fight again, Floyd still can dictate how much is his share since he won the first meeting, Manny will just accept whatever the terms being offered from Floyds camp since Manny is teh one running after Floyd to have a rematch. Too bad there is no rematch clause in the first contract.

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Quote from: peter0425 on July 31, 2019, 05:37:48 PM

How much money does Floyd want to fight Pacman again? hehehe. Everyone has a price, I remember when he was all bark when Canelo sign a $300 m with DAZN, That's the way he wanted to stay relevant. So if ever he was offered a one fight deal with Pacman with $300 m or more, I'm sure he will bite, Lol.

I've seen a stat on how much Manny Pacquiao earned during their fight with Floyd and it's a staggering $120-million. And with that fight, Floyd got a higher share because it's part of their deal. I don't know on how much he'd love to ask for the share if ever this fight will ever happen again. But that's for sure, he'll ask for a higher share again than Manny. He will not be called 'Money' if he's going to allow his opponent get a higher share than him.

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Quote from: mich on July 31, 2019, 01:21:06 PM

Great just what this boxing sport needs- another PAY PER VIEW that we all will know the exact outcome for Roll Eyes

Come on men there are some better matches out there to make FLOYD does not act like he wants to fight again but he would prefer to promote and make even more money to not get punched Wink

FLOYD is a smart business man and knows what hes doing - hes keeping his name relevant in case someone offers him a deal he just cant refuse!

How much money does Floyd want to fight Pacman again? hehehe. Everyone has a price, I remember when he was all bark when Canelo sign a $300 m with DAZN, That's the way he wanted to stay relevant. So if ever he was offered a one fight deal with Pacman with $300 m or more, I'm sure he will bite, Lol.

Not so obvious why he was called floyd "money" Mayweather lol.
Anyway, maybe he will, as he purely relies on the money involved every fight. I know he's protecting his legacy as well, but will sort it out how to win on the latter when the fight is a done deal. That made him not so interesting fighter, as his signature moves are more on a defensive stance. Unlike how Pacman fights toe to toe.

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Quote from: mich on July 31, 2019, 01:21:06 PM

Great just what this boxing sport needs- another PAY PER VIEW that we all will know the exact outcome for Roll Eyes

Come on men there are some better matches out there to make FLOYD does not act like he wants to fight again but he would prefer to promote and make even more money to not get punched Wink

FLOYD is a smart business man and knows what hes doing - hes keeping his name relevant in case someone offers him a deal he just cant refuse!

How much money does Floyd want to fight Pacman again? hehehe. Everyone has a price, I remember when he was all bark when Canelo sign a $300 m with DAZN, That's the way he wanted to stay relevant. So if ever he was offered a one fight deal with Pacman with $300 m or more, I'm sure he will bite, Lol.

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Most of the followers for both Pacquiao and Mayweather wanted to hear another rematch plan for them. It seems to be hype creation to gather demand from supporters. Although we heard lots of statement coming from Floyd, which gives trash talks on the champ Manny. In reality they're not enemies but friends for real, but they're not showing it publicly just to preserve privacy for their career status.

We all want to hear it but let's accept the fact that this fight will not be seen anywhere in the future.

Floyd has just expressed his retirement and he's aware that with the 2nd fight he's likely to retire with a lose.

Do you remember Mayweather has announced his retirement several time but he ends up in the ring fighting, the Mayweather I know is not ready for any retirement and what makes you so sure he's going to lose the second fight?
Let me guess, you totally believe in Ruiz prediction?

If he will not fight, that means maybe he is afraid of losing in the 2nd fight.

I do believe Mayweather can still take pacman in the re match but Mayweather maybe not risking that chance because he was not so active in the sport anymore and he saw the Thurman fight which I think not an easy fight for Manny.

Well, for me, I'll accept already that this is not likely gonna happen, we will keep pushing this but no mutual agreement between the 2.

I don't see Mayweather as someone who's afraid to fight Manny, he's someone that usually train hard so him not being active doesn't matter and if the money involves worth it, he will definitely give Manny the rematch.

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Most of the followers for both Pacquiao and Mayweather wanted to hear another rematch plan for them. It seems to be hype creation to gather demand from supporters. Although we heard lots of statement coming from Floyd, which gives trash talks on the champ Manny. In reality they're not enemies but friends for real, but they're not showing it publicly just to preserve privacy for their career status.

We all want to hear it but let's accept the fact that this fight will not be seen anywhere in the future.

Floyd has just expressed his retirement and he's aware that with the 2nd fight he's likely to retire with a lose.

Do you remember Mayweather has announced his retirement several time but he ends up in the ring fighting, the Mayweather I know is not ready for any retirement and what makes you so sure he's going to lose the second fight?
Let me guess, you totally believe in Ruiz prediction?

Yes, I can remember that. He can get out of his retirement whenever he want but in this case, I don't think that Manny or even Floyd still has the flame to fight each other.

I don't know about that prediction and even that Ruiz, whoever is that guy.

I was talking about Andy Ruiz Jr. the big and tall guy who beat Anthony Joshua this year, he was at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada live to watch Manny fight against Thurman and he was interviewed after the fight and he predicted Manny as the winner of the second fight against Mayweather.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on July 31, 2019, 01:40:16 AM

Manny already move on since he already fought several boxers after the Floyd Mayweather fight. The only thing is, he wants a bigger pouch before going on a retirement in which he can only obtain through fighting Mayweather.

I don't think he already moved on since he is the one that wants the fight here.

Manny Pacquaio wants the fight, that means he is still at that rematch, whatever the reason is all we know is that Manny wants the fight. Freddie Roach said that Floyd is scared of Manny right now, taunt or not all I know is that I think Team Manny also wants the fight, they want the rematch and I guess that will really be the end of Manny's career as a boxer. After that rematch, I think I will not be surprised that we will be seeing him hanging his gloves to be a public servant or a coach but obviously, a father.

What I see in Senator Manny is that he really loved the game of boxing. He want's to give the fans a good fight inside the ring and not just run around like stick and move. If ever there will be a rematch between the two, expect that you will see the fight go through until round 12. Floyd is not a knockout artist, I expect that this will run until 12 round.

And that's why lots of people doesn't really like Mayweather due to this behavior.Boxing isn't a running game but the other side is too clever on using up that way.

Its not entertainment anymore but rather a pure joke of fight.If there would be a rematch then expect for this thing to happen again.

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