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January 27, 2019, 08:10:33 AM
I think Broner did try to bring his A-game in the ring.
Broner did bring his A-game its just that Manny also brought his A-game with him with a bigger heart to win. Notice how the Broner suddenly changed his fighting stance when Manny hit him at the stomach at round 6 or 7 I guess, it looks like e doesnt know which part of his body he wants to protect, his head or his stomach. One thing hate about Broner is he doesn't know how to accept defeat. He thinks he won the fight. Maybe if Stevie Wonder is the judge, he may have a chance to win.
Even Stevie Wonder won’t favor to him because Stevie knows how crying baby Boner is lol 😂
And you are certainly right that the stomach hit of manny brings him to become more defensive and that changes his fighting strategy,he didn’t expect that punch will be harder as they thought .Manny's powerful punch can even bring a bull down so what more to a week boxer like him i just wish Boner to be mature enough and accept every defeat because his reactions only prove how loser he was
He's not weak but rather being out-boxed. Skills and experience will always matter and Broner did able to experience on how good Manny was. In any player if you do know that you are on a
disadvantage its normal for your mind and body to reach on what you would do. On any sports there would always be a winner and a loser.
Of course he is not weak but his not also on Manny league and he won't be on the elite levels of boxing. He is just overhype before and uses more of his mouth than his fist. And the boxing world is right favouring Manny to win. He need to change his coach as well, in the fight he was giving wrong signals. He should go back and fight B fighters and gain confidence again. Otherwise he will be simply forgotten by boxing fans.
Sometimes sports are being manipulated by their own managers and if they can't cheat their fighter they still find some ways to cheat. And that is how manipulation works for them.
Clearly this is just all about the money and the money itself. Those people don't just bet millions of dollars just to lose.
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January 27, 2019, 07:24:59 AM
I think Broner did try to bring his A-game in the ring.
Broner did bring his A-game its just that Manny also brought his A-game with him with a bigger heart to win. Notice how the Broner suddenly changed his fighting stance when Manny hit him at the stomach at round 6 or 7 I guess, it looks like e doesnt know which part of his body he wants to protect, his head or his stomach. One thing hate about Broner is he doesn't know how to accept defeat. He thinks he won the fight. Maybe if Stevie Wonder is the judge, he may have a chance to win.
Even Stevie Wonder won’t favor to him because Stevie knows how crying baby Boner is lol 😂
And you are certainly right that the stomach hit of manny brings him to become more defensive and that changes his fighting strategy,he didn’t expect that punch will be harder as they thought .Manny's powerful punch can even bring a bull down so what more to a week boxer like him i just wish Boner to be mature enough and accept every defeat because his reactions only prove how loser he was
He's not weak but rather being out-boxed. Skills and experience will always matter and Broner did able to experience on how good Manny was. In any player if you do know that you are on a
disadvantage its normal for your mind and body to reach on what you would do. On any sports there would always be a winner and a loser.
Of course he is not weak but his not also on Manny league and he won't be on the elite levels of boxing. He is just overhype before and uses more of his mouth than his fist. And the boxing world is right favouring Manny to win. He need to change his coach as well, in the fight he was giving wrong signals. He should go back and fight B fighters and gain confidence again. Otherwise he will be simply forgotten by boxing fans.
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January 27, 2019, 02:11:50 AM
I think Broner did try to bring his A-game in the ring.
Broner did bring his A-game its just that Manny also brought his A-game with him with a bigger heart to win. Notice how the Broner suddenly changed his fighting stance when Manny hit him at the stomach at round 6 or 7 I guess, it looks like e doesnt know which part of his body he wants to protect, his head or his stomach. One thing hate about Broner is he doesn't know how to accept defeat. He thinks he won the fight. Maybe if Stevie Wonder is the judge, he may have a chance to win.
Even Stevie Wonder won’t favor to him because Stevie knows how crying baby Boner is lol 😂
And you are certainly right that the stomach hit of manny brings him to become more defensive and that changes his fighting strategy,he didn’t expect that punch will be harder as they thought .Manny's powerful punch can even bring a bull down so what more to a week boxer like him i just wish Boner to be mature enough and accept every defeat because his reactions only prove how loser he was
He's not weak but rather being out-boxed. Skills and experience will always matter and Broner did able to experience on how good Manny was. In any player if you do know that you are on a
disadvantage its normal for your mind and body to reach on what you would do. On any sports there would always be a winner and a loser.
Thats it i think because Pacquiao for sure will not go to ring knowing he’s opponent is a weak person since Manny known to be a fair and good fighter

And being a contender of best boxer proves he is strong enough for the fight,what matters now is for Boner to Move on and practice well because no one knows time will come that he will be rewarded of another fight against Manny before the legendary fighter retires from the boxing field
I guess Broner is already done and he wont really plan to have a rematch but who knows if he would push it or not. Any boxer do have the capability but there would always be the best among the rest.
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January 27, 2019, 12:30:14 AM
I think Broner did try to bring his A-game in the ring.
Broner did bring his A-game its just that Manny also brought his A-game with him with a bigger heart to win. Notice how the Broner suddenly changed his fighting stance when Manny hit him at the stomach at round 6 or 7 I guess, it looks like e doesnt know which part of his body he wants to protect, his head or his stomach. One thing hate about Broner is he doesn't know how to accept defeat. He thinks he won the fight. Maybe if Stevie Wonder is the judge, he may have a chance to win.
Even Stevie Wonder won’t favor to him because Stevie knows how crying baby Boner is lol 😂
And you are certainly right that the stomach hit of manny brings him to become more defensive and that changes his fighting strategy,he didn’t expect that punch will be harder as they thought .Manny's powerful punch can even bring a bull down so what more to a week boxer like him i just wish Boner to be mature enough and accept every defeat because his reactions only prove how loser he was
He's not weak but rather being out-boxed. Skills and experience will always matter and Broner did able to experience on how good Manny was. In any player if you do know that you are on a
disadvantage its normal for your mind and body to reach on what you would do. On any sports there would always be a winner and a loser.
Thats it i think because Pacquiao for sure will not go to ring knowing he’s opponent is a weak person since Manny known to be a fair and good fighter

And being a contender of best boxer proves he is strong enough for the fight,what matters now is for Boner to Move on and practice well because no one knows time will come that he will be rewarded of another fight against Manny before the legendary fighter retires from the boxing field
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January 26, 2019, 10:59:59 PM
I think Broner did try to bring his A-game in the ring.
Broner did bring his A-game its just that Manny also brought his A-game with him with a bigger heart to win. Notice how the Broner suddenly changed his fighting stance when Manny hit him at the stomach at round 6 or 7 I guess, it looks like e doesnt know which part of his body he wants to protect, his head or his stomach. One thing hate about Broner is he doesn't know how to accept defeat. He thinks he won the fight. Maybe if Stevie Wonder is the judge, he may have a chance to win.
Even Stevie Wonder won’t favor to him because Stevie knows how crying baby Boner is lol 😂
And you are certainly right that the stomach hit of manny brings him to become more defensive and that changes his fighting strategy,he didn’t expect that punch will be harder as they thought .Manny's powerful punch can even bring a bull down so what more to a week boxer like him i just wish Boner to be mature enough and accept every defeat because his reactions only prove how loser he was
He's not weak but rather being out-boxed. Skills and experience will always matter and Broner did able to experience on how good Manny was. In any player if you do know that you are on a
disadvantage its normal for your mind and body to reach on what you would do. On any sports there would always be a winner and a loser.
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January 26, 2019, 10:30:27 PM
I think Broner did try to bring his A-game in the ring.
Broner did bring his A-game its just that Manny also brought his A-game with him with a bigger heart to win. Notice how the Broner suddenly changed his fighting stance when Manny hit him at the stomach at round 6 or 7 I guess, it looks like e doesnt know which part of his body he wants to protect, his head or his stomach. One thing hate about Broner is he doesn't know how to accept defeat. He thinks he won the fight. Maybe if Stevie Wonder is the judge, he may have a chance to win.
Even Stevie Wonder won’t favor to him because Stevie knows how crying baby Boner is lol 😂
And you are certainly right that the stomach hit of manny brings him to become more defensive and that changes his fighting strategy,he didn’t expect that punch will be harder as they thought .Manny's powerful punch can even bring a bull down so what more to a week boxer like him i just wish Boner to be mature enough and accept every defeat because his reactions only prove how loser he was
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January 26, 2019, 10:09:58 PM
Manny is using his speed and skills in boxing, if you are the opponent of Manny, you need to knock him down for you to win because he always have the score.
Yep, he's agile enough to move and what I like to him is his courage and being brave. He don't show any sign of afraid even his opponent is popular, strong or a complete showcase of a great fighter.
Not as popular as Manny, this kid (I would call broner a kid now) didn't show the heart of a champion and very disrespectful during the interview.
Honestly, I would have respect him if he only engage in the ring even if he is a trash talker, but unfortunately he was expose being a coward.

PPV amount is good but broner does not deserve a fair share, people are just praising manny while hating this young kid.

I think Broner did try to bring his A-game in the ring. But Manny Pacquiao is too much for him that's why he just cruises up to the end. This is not the first time he acted ass after a loss, after Maidana took him to school and he been ridiculed by the boxing public, still he is boastful and talking about "AB" - About Billions. I guess he won't change though, its his nature, whats funny though is people around him telling that he won, that's why in his mind he still carry that mindset that he beat Manny, crazy dude.

AB - About Billions? More of AB - Ass Beaten, Lmao.

Of course he has his A-game. But its no match for Pacquiao, Manny has a mission that time, to win to that he can secure a rematch with Floyd Mayweather. And Broner is nowhere Manny league even at 40 years of age. Broner should stop hanging up with Floyd though and stop being a Floyd wannabee and just be himself and not to copy his every style and move.
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January 26, 2019, 09:40:13 PM
I think Broner did try to bring his A-game in the ring.
Broner did bring his A-game its just that Manny also brought his A-game with him with a bigger heart to win. Notice how the Broner suddenly changed his fighting stance when Manny hit him at the stomach at round 6 or 7 I guess, it looks like e doesnt know which part of his body he wants to protect, his head or his stomach. One thing hate about Broner is he doesn't know how to accept defeat. He thinks he won the fight. Maybe if Stevie Wonder is the judge, he may have a chance to win.
Being on the status of not accepting defeat is just a part of the game, the crowd already knows and how Broner's fight with Manny. Though we are not the judge but we simply know who could possibly win the fight and our expectations not failed.
Broner is not really a good fighter that could defeat Manny, not only for the record but his performance on the ring. He can't even punch hard towards his opponent, and how he could win.
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January 26, 2019, 09:04:31 PM
I think Broner did try to bring his A-game in the ring.
Broner did bring his A-game its just that Manny also brought his A-game with him with a bigger heart to win.
Maybe that's the right thing to described the fight, Manny has a bigger heart so he won the match.
Notice how the Broner suddenly changed his fighting stance when Manny hit him at the stomach at round 6 or 7 I guess, it looks like e doesnt know which part of his body he wants to protect, his head or his stomach. One thing hate about Broner is he doesn't know how to accept defeat.
I noticed that also, seems like his body is weak and if he continue to engage then maybe we will see knockdown, from the very moment, Broner
already knew how big the volume of manny's punch and he has no chance of winning so it's just a way for him to survive.

He thinks he won the fight. Maybe if Stevie Wonder is the judge, he may have a chance to win.

Hilarious, this guy is also blind, though he knows he got dominated in the fight but still not willing to accept defeat. I pity for him.
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January 26, 2019, 08:08:54 PM
I think Broner did try to bring his A-game in the ring.
Broner did bring his A-game its just that Manny also brought his A-game with him with a bigger heart to win. Notice how the Broner suddenly changed his fighting stance when Manny hit him at the stomach at round 6 or 7 I guess, it looks like e doesnt know which part of his body he wants to protect, his head or his stomach. One thing hate about Broner is he doesn't know how to accept defeat. He thinks he won the fight. Maybe if Stevie Wonder is the judge, he may have a chance to win.
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January 26, 2019, 05:59:01 AM
[I think Broner did try to bring his A-game in the ring. But Manny Pacquiao is too much for him that's why he just cruises up to the end.
He didn't, even if Manny is too much but at least he show some action that he is also willing to win.
Why not give up early if he will not just fight anyway. Angry Angry
This is not the first time he acted ass after a loss, after Maidana took him to school and he been ridiculed by the boxing public, still he is boastful and talking about "AB" - About Billions.
He cannot convince us with his talking if he can't act the right way to win.
That  "AB" - About Billions is not fit to him, it's hard for him to generate millions after pacquiao fight so he is just delusional with billions.

I guess he won't change though, its his nature, whats funny though is people around him telling that he won, that's why in his mind he still carry that mindset that he beat Manny, crazy dude.
He will change if there is no promoter to sell his fight, he box for me and it's not money that will look for him, it's the opposite.
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January 26, 2019, 02:10:02 AM
Manny is using his speed and skills in boxing, if you are the opponent of Manny, you need to knock him down for you to win because he always have the score.
Yep, he's agile enough to move and what I like to him is his courage and being brave. He don't show any sign of afraid even his opponent is popular, strong or a complete showcase of a great fighter.
Not as popular as Manny, this kid (I would call broner a kid now) didn't show the heart of a champion and very disrespectful during the interview.
Honestly, I would have respect him if he only engage in the ring even if he is a trash talker, but unfortunately he was expose being a coward.

PPV amount is good but broner does not deserve a fair share, people are just praising manny while hating this young kid.

I think Broner did try to bring his A-game in the ring. But Manny Pacquiao is too much for him that's why he just cruises up to the end. This is not the first time he acted ass after a loss, after Maidana took him to school and he been ridiculed by the boxing public, still he is boastful and talking about "AB" - About Billions. I guess he won't change though, its his nature, whats funny though is people around him telling that he won, that's why in his mind he still carry that mindset that he beat Manny, crazy dude.
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January 26, 2019, 01:23:08 AM
Manny is using his speed and skills in boxing, if you are the opponent of Manny, you need to knock him down for you to win because he always have the score.
Yep, he's agile enough to move and what I like to him is his courage and being brave. He don't show any sign of afraid even his opponent is popular, strong or a complete showcase of a great fighter.
Not as popular as Manny, this kid (I would call broner a kid now) didn't show the heart of a champion and very disrespectful during the interview.
Honestly, I would have respect him if he only engage in the ring even if he is a trash talker, but unfortunately he was expose being a coward.

PPV amount is good but broner does not deserve a fair share, people are just praising manny while hating this young kid.
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January 26, 2019, 01:01:08 AM
But even at 40 he can still gave us a good fight. If the fight with Mayweather doesn't push through, there's a lot of fighters around the 147 lbs, like Thurman how is a heavy puncher and this will also a big test for him and even his former sparring mate, Shawn Porter, that will also be one of fight I wanted to see. Those two are in the peak of their career so its going to be interesting how Manny will do against this champions.

Not only those two but you have a lot of good welterweights at Al Haymon's stable, Let's see:

1. Danny Garcia (that left hook)
2. Amir Khan (who will be fighting Crawford)
3. Errol Spence (who will be fighting Mikey Garcia)
4. Thurman
5. Porter

All of those are elite WW so Manny can be match with those fighters anytime of the day. And anyone of them may give Manny a good and exciting fight, it will be a test if Manny Pacquiao has that killer instinct if he goes against those top dogs in welterweight division.

That is what I'm trying to drive at. There's a lot of fighters in the division that Manny can fight in the next coming years and not just Floyd Mayweather.

On the list you put up, I saw 3 names that can beat Manny though, D. Garcia, E. Spence and K. Thurman. Those guys are in their prime and Manny might find it difficult stylistically. Amir Khan, with his glass chin will be the easiest amongst them, while Shawn Porter (former sparring mate) will be worried about how fast and strong the left hand and might be cautious all the time.
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January 25, 2019, 08:33:01 PM
^^ Yeah, it's pretty obvious that Manny doesn't have the killer instinct we have seen him during his peak. Maybe he has aged or religion really play a key role.
AS you have mentioned its a Killer instinct so no doubt this cant never be gone but the problem now is all hes moves has been anticipated nowadays as Pacquiao’s popularity grows as days passed ,many coaches are learning hes style in the ring to prevent their players losing good example is Boner in which he does just like what Mayweather did against manny ,making the ring as a race track and runs against opponent lol

And lets add the carelessness Manny did the last fight with Juan Miguel Marquez when he was knocked by a single punch,today he was more careful and watching all the possibilities of defensive and offensive.

About the religion i dont think this will be an issue because theres nothing wrong in boxing that prohibits in bible or in sector he was being with
I agree with your point, I mean all that you stated is true.
Manny's killer instinct was never gone, the problem is not with him, it's on his opponent.

They know that Manny is a heavy volume puncher and it's not good for them to be added in the history of the boxers which Manny knock out.
Broner style was just to survive, he is counter punching but not throwing a good number of punch.
Thats it mate knowing how Pacquiao can beat them with a single strike all they do now is take the precautionary measures to assure the safeties on the ring since Manny has proven this for so many occasions that Hes Left punch is hard as a hammer

This fight would be massively lucrative to both fighters & those around them but will it happen?
I’m not sure if they’ll be able to agree a purse.
Pacman has no control over the purse because Floyd will be the A-Side in this fight. So he may not received the same offer he got from the first fight, I'm sure it will be less, but nevertheless if will be big money even for a current boxing champ. Those two are still the cash cow, no matter how boring the fight could be.
Maybe not though the two fighters are still gaining their popularity again from the viewers thats why their camps are creating gimmicks just to know whats the impact if this fight will be done sooner,meeting twice in the basketball match up is something to consider since this is normal occasion that could happen from two most popular boxer of all time
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January 25, 2019, 06:50:43 PM
You can't expect of course the same pacquiao from years ago to be the same at 40years old. But you have to appreciate the evolution of his style. Not as explosive but more efficient and mature. Maybe as boring as mayweather but it works for boxers his age. And that rematch is probably just attracting hype for now. If the money becomes right, floyd may consider coming out of retirement.
After his lost with Marquez Manny Pacquiao is more careful than before. The last fight with Market before he was knocked down, he is ahead in points and then all of a sudden, the lucky punch of Marquez hits him hard ad knocked him down. Aside form that, Manny Pacquiao is now a Christian, he turned into a religious person so the beast in him is now tamed down. So no more of those days when he fought Morales and Barrera. Those are the days that we can call his prime.
He turned into a Christain has nothing to do with how he fights lol His fight with Gay Weather was planned like all other fights of Gay Weather. When two best fighters are put into the same ring, it's money that makes the most noise.
It's not only me who noticed that, even Freddie Roach the former chief trainer of Manny Pacquiao for 15 years also noticed the changes.

"Roach, who was a tenacious featherweight contender himself during the 80s, concedes that he’s seen some of Pacquiao’s killer instinct wane in recent years, beginning around the time that he became more involved with religion."

If there's anyone who knows the fighting style of Manny Pacquiao, that would be Freddie Roach and Buboy Fernadez, Manny's chief trainer and also his best friend.

Buboy also said "Stop being a Christian for a while" before Manny's fight with Adrien Broner,

Source:https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/55008-roach-conditioning-religion-pacquiao
https://sports.inquirer.net/334755/stop-being-a-christian-for-a-while-buboy-tells-manny-pacquiao
I guess it's because he aged and he is always wiser now, but the most important is he is still impressive and keeps winning his fight.
Buboy said during Manny's last fight always said do not be careless, so he doesn't want Manny to be very aggressive because they know they are leading the scoring and it's pretty obvious, I would have protest if Manny loss the fight. Grin

Manny is using his speed and skills in boxing, if you are the opponent of Manny, you need to knock him down for you to win because he always have the score.
When it comes on making points or do make landing punches on opponent then Manny would really have it.Why? because he do keep punching up specially when on a drive where barrage of punches would be made.
He do really still have the speed thats why theres no doubt when making up points.Unlike on his fight with bradley where you can see he do barely punch plus the opponents counter attack which do leads into split score decision.
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January 25, 2019, 06:07:16 PM
^^ Yeah, it's pretty obvious that Manny doesn't have the killer instinct we have seen him during his peak. Maybe he has aged or religion really play a key role.
AS you have mentioned its a Killer instinct so no doubt this cant never be gone but the problem now is all hes moves has been anticipated nowadays as Pacquiao’s popularity grows as days passed ,many coaches are learning hes style in the ring to prevent their players losing good example is Boner in which he does just like what Mayweather did against manny ,making the ring as a race track and runs against opponent lol

And lets add the carelessness Manny did the last fight with Juan Miguel Marquez when he was knocked by a single punch,today he was more careful and watching all the possibilities of defensive and offensive.

About the religion i dont think this will be an issue because theres nothing wrong in boxing that prohibits in bible or in sector he was being with
I agree with your point, I mean all that you stated is true.
Manny's killer instinct was never gone, the problem is not with him, it's on his opponent.

They know that Manny is a heavy volume puncher and it's not good for them to be added in the history of the boxers which Manny knock out.
Broner style was just to survive, he is counter punching but not throwing a good number of punch.
Knowing that a wrong mistake will lead him into K.O, Manny's quick punch back is continuous Broner knew that so he will not do unnecessary mistakes to avoid being in a critical situation, he just trying to make a counter to make sure Manny's attack will be avoided, the Match is over and now most of us are waiting for the final say about this rematch, if that will happen or it won't take any effects to floyd.

As of now, I would take that it hasn't take any effect on Floyd, except for the encounter on a basketball game, we never heard anything from their camp regarding a rematch so for now we can say that it won't happen. Everything is still up in the air, let Manny Pacquiao rest and enjoy his win against Broner.
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January 25, 2019, 11:34:06 AM
^^ Yeah, it's pretty obvious that Manny doesn't have the killer instinct we have seen him during his peak. Maybe he has aged or religion really play a key role.
AS you have mentioned its a Killer instinct so no doubt this cant never be gone but the problem now is all hes moves has been anticipated nowadays as Pacquiao’s popularity grows as days passed ,many coaches are learning hes style in the ring to prevent their players losing good example is Boner in which he does just like what Mayweather did against manny ,making the ring as a race track and runs against opponent lol

And lets add the carelessness Manny did the last fight with Juan Miguel Marquez when he was knocked by a single punch,today he was more careful and watching all the possibilities of defensive and offensive.

About the religion i dont think this will be an issue because theres nothing wrong in boxing that prohibits in bible or in sector he was being with
I agree with your point, I mean all that you stated is true.
Manny's killer instinct was never gone, the problem is not with him, it's on his opponent.

They know that Manny is a heavy volume puncher and it's not good for them to be added in the history of the boxers which Manny knock out.
Broner style was just to survive, he is counter punching but not throwing a good number of punch.
Knowing that a wrong mistake will lead him into K.O, Manny's quick punch back is continuous Broner knew that so he will not do unnecessary mistakes to avoid being in a critical situation, he just trying to make a counter to make sure Manny's attack will be avoided, the Match is over and now most of us are waiting for the final say about this rematch, if that will happen or it won't take any effects to floyd.
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January 25, 2019, 10:40:53 AM
This fight would be massively lucrative to both fighters & those around them but will it happen?
I’m not sure if they’ll be able to agree a purse.
Pacman has no control over the purse because Floyd will be the A-Side in this fight. So he may not received the same offer he got from the first fight, I'm sure it will be less, but nevertheless if will be big money even for a current boxing champ. Those two are still the cash cow, no matter how boring the fight could be.
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January 25, 2019, 08:09:39 AM
This fight would be massively lucrative to both fighters & those around them but will it happen?
I’m not sure if they’ll be able to agree a purse.
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