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Quote from: mirakal on January 25, 2019, 01:24:03 AM

Buboy said during Manny's last fight always said do not be careless, so he doesn't want Manny to be very aggressive because they know they are leading the scoring and it's pretty obvious, I would have protest if Manny loss the fight. Grin

Yeah, I also heard that as well. Seems that Buboy is giving good advises to Manny during the Broner fight. Prior to that we have seen Manny being hit in the last 10 seconds either in the end of 4th or 5th round. Buboy immediately, jump on Manny and tell him to be very careful specially in the last 10 seconds or so to prevent another "JMM".

Quote from: TravelMug on January 24, 2019, 10:52:48 PM

But even at 40 he can still gave us a good fight. If the fight with Mayweather doesn't push through, there's a lot of fighters around the 147 lbs, like Thurman how is a heavy puncher and this will also a big test for him and even his former sparring mate, Shawn Porter, that will also be one of fight I wanted to see. Those two are in the peak of their career so its going to be interesting how Manny will do against this champions.

Not only those two but you have a lot of good welterweights at Al Haymon's stable, Let's see:

1. Danny Garcia (that left hook)
2. Amir Khan (who will be fighting Crawford)
3. Errol Spence (who will be fighting Mikey Garcia)
4. Thurman
5. Porter

All of those are elite WW so Manny can be match with those fighters anytime of the day. And anyone of them may give Manny a good and exciting fight, it will be a test if Manny Pacquiao has that killer instinct if he goes against those top dogs in welterweight division.

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Quote from: Siren on January 25, 2019, 03:23:01 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on January 24, 2019, 10:52:48 PM

^^ Yeah, it's pretty obvious that Manny doesn't have the killer instinct we have seen him during his peak. Maybe he has aged or religion really play a key role.

AS you have mentioned its a Killer instinct so no doubt this cant never be gone but the problem now is all hes moves has been anticipated nowadays as Pacquiao’s popularity grows as days passed ,many coaches are learning hes style in the ring to prevent their players losing good example is Boner in which he does just like what Mayweather did against manny ,making the ring as a race track and runs against opponent lol

And lets add the carelessness Manny did the last fight with Juan Miguel Marquez when he was knocked by a single punch,today he was more careful and watching all the possibilities of defensive and offensive.

About the religion i dont think this will be an issue because theres nothing wrong in boxing that prohibits in bible or in sector he was being with

I agree with your point, I mean all that you stated is true.
Manny's killer instinct was never gone, the problem is not with him, it's on his opponent.

They know that Manny is a heavy volume puncher and it's not good for them to be added in the history of the boxers which Manny knock out.
Broner style was just to survive, he is counter punching but not throwing a good number of punch.

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Quote from: TravelMug on January 24, 2019, 10:52:48 PM

^^ Yeah, it's pretty obvious that Manny doesn't have the killer instinct we have seen him during his peak. Maybe he has aged or religion really play a key role.

AS you have mentioned its a Killer instinct so no doubt this cant never be gone but the problem now is all hes moves has been anticipated nowadays as Pacquiao’s popularity grows as days passed ,many coaches are learning hes style in the ring to prevent their players losing good example is Boner in which he does just like what Mayweather did against manny ,making the ring as a race track and runs against opponent lol

And lets add the carelessness Manny did the last fight with Juan Manuel Marquez when he was knocked by a single punch,today he was more careful and watching all the possibilities of defensive and offensive.

About the religion i dont think this will be an issue because theres nothing wrong in boxing that prohibits in bible or in sector he was being with

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Quote from: TravelMug on January 24, 2019, 10:52:48 PM

^^ Yeah, it's pretty obvious that Manny doesn't have the killer instinct we have seen him during his peak. Maybe he has aged or religion really play a key role.

I never thought of this even before to be honest, it's part of his attitude that he doesn't have to be like that. When this fight is already on contract, is someone thinking here of watching the fight live in front of the ring? on MGM?

Quote from: mirakal on January 25, 2019, 01:24:03 AM

Manny is using his speed and skills in boxing, if you are the opponent of Manny, you need to knock him down for you to win because he always have the score.

Yep, he's agile enough to move and what I like to him is his courage and being brave. He don't show any sign of afraid even his opponent is popular, strong or a complete showcase of a great fighter.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on January 24, 2019, 10:15:17 PM

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Quote from: gabmen on January 24, 2019, 11:24:04 AM

You can't expect of course the same pacquiao from years ago to be the same at 40years old. But you have to appreciate the evolution of his style. Not as explosive but more efficient and mature. Maybe as boring as mayweather but it works for boxers his age. And that rematch is probably just attracting hype for now. If the money becomes right, floyd may consider coming out of retirement.

After his lost with Marquez Manny Pacquiao is more careful than before. The last fight with Market before he was knocked down, he is ahead in points and then all of a sudden, the lucky punch of Marquez hits him hard ad knocked him down. Aside form that, Manny Pacquiao is now a Christian, he turned into a religious person so the beast in him is now tamed down. So no more of those days when he fought Morales and Barrera. Those are the days that we can call his prime.

He turned into a Christain has nothing to do with how he fights lol His fight with Gay Weather was planned like all other fights of Gay Weather. When two best fighters are put into the same ring, it's money that makes the most noise.

It's not only me who noticed that, even Freddie Roach the former chief trainer of Manny Pacquiao for 15 years also noticed the changes.

"Roach, who was a tenacious featherweight contender himself during the 80s, concedes that he’s seen some of Pacquiao’s killer instinct wane in recent years, beginning around the time that he became more involved with religion."

If there's anyone who knows the fighting style of Manny Pacquiao, that would be Freddie Roach and Buboy Fernadez, Manny's chief trainer and also his best friend.

Buboy also said "Stop being a Christian for a while" before Manny's fight with Adrien Broner,

Source:https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/55008-roach-conditioning-religion-pacquiao
https://sports.inquirer.net/334755/stop-being-a-christian-for-a-while-buboy-tells-manny-pacquiao

I guess it's because he aged and he is always wiser now, but the most important is he is still impressive and keeps winning his fight.
Buboy said during Manny's last fight always said do not be careless, so he doesn't want Manny to be very aggressive because they know they are leading the scoring and it's pretty obvious, I would have protest if Manny loss the fight. Grin

Manny is using his speed and skills in boxing, if you are the opponent of Manny, you need to knock him down for you to win because he always have the score.

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^^ Yeah, it's pretty obvious that Manny doesn't have the killer instinct we have seen him during his peak. Maybe he has aged or religion really play a key role.

But even at 40 he can still gave us a good fight. If the fight with Mayweather doesn't push through, there's a lot of fighters around the 147 lbs, like Thurman how is a heavy puncher and this will also a big test for him and even his former sparring mate, Shawn Porter, that will also be one of fight I wanted to see. Those two are in the peak of their career so its going to be interesting how Manny will do against this champions.

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Quote from: gabmen on January 24, 2019, 11:24:04 AM

You can't expect of course the same pacquiao from years ago to be the same at 40years old. But you have to appreciate the evolution of his style. Not as explosive but more efficient and mature. Maybe as boring as mayweather but it works for boxers his age. And that rematch is probably just attracting hype for now. If the money becomes right, floyd may consider coming out of retirement.

After his lost with Marquez Manny Pacquiao is more careful than before. The last fight with Market before he was knocked down, he is ahead in points and then all of a sudden, the lucky punch of Marquez hits him hard ad knocked him down. Aside form that, Manny Pacquiao is now a Christian, he turned into a religious person so the beast in him is now tamed down. So no more of those days when he fought Morales and Barrera. Those are the days that we can call his prime.

He turned into a Christain has nothing to do with how he fights lol His fight with Gay Weather was planned like all other fights of Gay Weather. When two best fighters are put into the same ring, it's money that makes the most noise.

It's not only me who noticed that, even Freddie Roach the former chief trainer of Manny Pacquiao for 15 years also noticed the changes.

"Roach, who was a tenacious featherweight contender himself during the 80s, concedes that he’s seen some of Pacquiao’s killer instinct wane in recent years, beginning around the time that he became more involved with religion."

If there's anyone who knows the fighting style of Manny Pacquiao, that would be Freddie Roach and Buboy Fernadez, Manny's chief trainer and also his best friend.

Buboy also said "Stop being a Christian for a while" before Manny's fight with Adrien Broner,

Source:https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/55008-roach-conditioning-religion-pacquiao
https://sports.inquirer.net/334755/stop-being-a-christian-for-a-while-buboy-tells-manny-pacquiao

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Quote from: Ipwich on January 24, 2019, 08:15:54 PM

It's not scripted, they are wrong, that's the way the fight should go and Mayweather simply beat Manny.
Mayweather is better between the two since he is perfect in this career, Manny has a lot of loses but people love him because he is entertaining to watch

They tell it scripted in a way that the judges didn't voted appropriately. It's a 'cooking show' many have said before. But it doesn't really matter now, most of the fans are thirsty to see another action from these two.

Floyd had a small fight on Tokyo while Manny just went from a recent fight. Expect 6 months up to a year before anything else confirmed for these two fighters to box again for their v2.

Quote from: Ipwich on January 24, 2019, 08:15:54 PM

People will think it's boring and these two fighters already knew people's reaction, maybe they will improve a big this time.

As a boxing fan, I don't see a rematch is a boring fight. Maybe he just considers that this kind of match is boring to him because he had seen it before or the playstyle of Mayweather was just a marathon.

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Quote from: sunsilk on January 24, 2019, 07:13:27 PM

Quote from: Ranly123 on January 24, 2019, 07:47:28 AM

It's obvious that boxing fans wants to see action on both fighters, that is if Mayweather would fight to to toe with Manny. The excitement brought by how Manny fight will be nothing if Mayweather still fight in a boring way.

We as fans want to see on how Manny will take revenge from his lost to Mayweather. That's what we feel and we don't care if this is going to be the same fight, scripted (as others claim and said before) or what.

It's not scripted, they are wrong, that's the way the fight should go and Mayweather simply beat Manny.
Mayweather is better between the two since he is perfect in this career, Manny has a lot of loses but people love him because he is entertaining to watch

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Quote from: Maslate on January 24, 2019, 04:56:47 AM

We always buy this fight although we know it's gonna be another boring fight and I wouldn't be surprise if it will surpass the success of the previous fight.

My 2 cents.

I don't think it's going to be boring. Give the two a chance to entertain you, I don't usually watch Mayweather fights alone but since it will be versus to Manny, I'll watch it. I won't expect that it's going to be a boring fight.

People will think it's boring and these two fighters already knew people's reaction, maybe they will improve a big this time.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on January 24, 2019, 07:47:28 AM

It's obvious that boxing fans wants to see action on both fighters, that is if Mayweather would fight to to toe with Manny. The excitement brought by how Manny fight will be nothing if Mayweather still fight in a boring way.

We as fans want to see on how Manny will take revenge from his lost to Mayweather. That's what we feel and we don't care if this is going to be the same fight, scripted (as others claim and said before) or what.

Quote from: Maslate on January 24, 2019, 04:56:47 AM

We always buy this fight although we know it's gonna be another boring fight and I wouldn't be surprise if it will surpass the success of the previous fight.

My 2 cents.

I don't think it's going to be boring. Give the two a chance to entertain you, I don't usually watch Mayweather fights alone but since it will be versus to Manny, I'll watch it. I won't expect that it's going to be a boring fight.

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Quote from: gabmen on January 24, 2019, 11:24:04 AM

You can't expect of course the same pacquiao from years ago to be the same at 40years old. But you have to appreciate the evolution of his style. Not as explosive but more efficient and mature. Maybe as boring as mayweather but it works for boxers his age. And that rematch is probably just attracting hype for now. If the money becomes right, floyd may consider coming out of retirement.

After his lost with Marquez Manny Pacquiao is more careful than before. The last fight with Market before he was knocked down, he is ahead in points and then all of a sudden, the lucky punch of Marquez hits him hard ad knocked him down. Aside form that, Manny Pacquiao is now a Christian, he turned into a religious person so the beast in him is now tamed down. So no more of those days when he fought Morales and Barrera. Those are the days that we can call his prime.

He turned into a Christain has nothing to do with how he fights lol His fight with Gay Weather was planned like all other fights of Gay Weather. When two best fighters are put into the same ring, it's money that makes the most noise.

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Quote from: gabmen on January 24, 2019, 11:24:04 AM

You can't expect of course the same pacquiao from years ago to be the same at 40years old. But you have to appreciate the evolution of his style. Not as explosive but more efficient and mature. Maybe as boring as mayweather but it works for boxers his age. And that rematch is probably just attracting hype for now. If the money becomes right, floyd may consider coming out of retirement.

After his lost with Marquez Manny Pacquiao is more careful than before. The last fight with Market before he was knocked down, he is ahead in points and then all of a sudden, the lucky punch of Marquez hits him hard ad knocked him down. Aside form that, Manny Pacquiao is now a Christian, he turned into a religious person so the beast in him is now tamed down. So no more of those days when he fought Morales and Barrera. Those are the days that we can call his prime.

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Quote from: MidKnight on January 24, 2019, 01:37:04 AM

I don't really know why people are still interested in that boring rematch. Pacquiao's last fight just showed how he slowed down and he's not that a beast anymore and he's turning like Mayweather who just wait and wait before he punches. Just give this up guys so you won't complain that are again rob with a show that's not really worth your money.

Boring or not based on your thoughts, there are people that still wants a piece of Mayweather vs Pacquaio "for the last time". They are both on retirement level now so it's kind of a privilege that we can still see these top pound for pound boxers doing a serious bout for the last time. Seriously you didn't understand that simple reason of others aside from business and gambling purposes?

If you guys are expecting a beast Pacquiao during their first matchup then definitely you are just a passerby. How come you are expecting an intense fight for both sides which now out of their peaks. So expect the same scenario if ever a rematch will happened. But that is just a speculation and we all don't know what will happen on the ring.

People wants rematch so bring it on and you have the freedom not to watch it.

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Quote from: MidKnight on January 24, 2019, 01:37:04 AM

I don't really know why people are still interested in that boring rematch. Pacquiao's last fight just showed how he slowed down and he's not that a beast anymore and he's turning like Mayweather who just wait and wait before he punches. Just give this up guys so you won't complain that are again rob with a show that's not really worth your money.

Correct, don't get me wrong, but the killer instinct of Pacman is gone, maybe he is really old boxer. So a rematch will eventually a boring fight and I'm not gonna buy and will probably watch a reply or just follow the news around.

Maybe he's an old enough on a boxing career, on his Broner's fight I didn't see the rapid punches that usually he used when he turning to a beast mode that makes opponent knock down. I heard rumors that the CEO of Floy Mayweather will say that Floy was retired on boxing career and he is now not showing interest on boxing. But hopefully, there's a rematch fight between Floy and Pacman.

You can't expect of course the same pacquiao from years ago to be the same at 40years old. But you have to appreciate the evolution of his style. Not as explosive but more efficient and mature. Maybe as boring as mayweather but it works for boxers his age. And that rematch is probably just attracting hype for now. If the money becomes right, floyd may consider coming out of retirement.

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Whatever the decisions of the promoters and management, i will still support the nation's pride Manny Pacquiao. Besides, we all know that the last match isnt fair and Manny also wants to prove he can defeat Mayweather in K.O. together with his cheating managers and staffs. Dont care if he's going out on his retirement.

The decision is on both sides if they could agree to what, when or where they have to settle everything for the sake of rematch. But i strongly believe that Manny wouldn't want it to settle it on Las Vegas ring, i bet he would. He once cheated by them, he doesn't want it to happen again because he can see the favor already on that ring and also to the cheating judges before.

I guess Philippines is the best place for this fight and maybe Mayweather would be agreeing if this will happen. If he has no judges to pay, the truth will reveal and his reputation will be broken. But ill stick to the speculation where Many will hit him with K.O. and no judges needed to prove he wins.

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Quote from: peter0425 on January 24, 2019, 08:25:56 AM

Quote from: MidKnight on January 24, 2019, 01:37:04 AM

I don't really know why people are still interested in that boring rematch. Pacquiao's last fight just showed how he slowed down and he's not that a beast anymore and he's turning like Mayweather who just wait and wait before he punches. Just give this up guys so you won't complain that are again rob with a show that's not really worth your money.

Correct, don't get me wrong, but the killer instinct of Pacman is gone, maybe he is really old boxer. So a rematch will eventually a boring fight and I'm not gonna buy and will probably watch a reply or just follow the news around.

Maybe he's an old enough on a boxing career, on his Broner's fight I didn't see the rapid punches that usually he used when he turning to a beast mode that makes opponent knock down. I heard rumors that the CEO of Floy Mayweather will say that Floy was retired on boxing career and he is now not showing interest on boxing. But hopefully, there's a rematch fight between Floy and Pacman.

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Quote from: MidKnight on January 24, 2019, 01:37:04 AM

I don't really know why people are still interested in that boring rematch. Pacquiao's last fight just showed how he slowed down and he's not that a beast anymore and he's turning like Mayweather who just wait and wait before he punches. Just give this up guys so you won't complain that are again rob with a show that's not really worth your money.

Correct, don't get me wrong, but the killer instinct of Pacman is gone, maybe he is really old boxer. So a rematch will eventually a boring fight and I'm not gonna buy and will probably watch a reply or just follow the news around.

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Quote from: sunsilk on January 24, 2019, 02:07:06 AM

Quote from: MidKnight on January 24, 2019, 01:37:04 AM

I don't really know why people are still interested in that boring rematch. Pacquiao's last fight just showed how he slowed down and he's not that a beast anymore and he's turning like Mayweather who just wait and wait before he punches. Just give this up guys so you won't complain that are again rob with a show that's not really worth your money.

You will understand if you aren't satisfied with the match that they have held before. It's not about on how slow Pacquiao was on Broner's fight but it's about on how he's going to adjust and take back his loss from Mayweather.

And it's more of a hype, boxing fans understands on how big this fight will including on how much money will be at stake. It's more of the personal views of the people aside from boxing and match but also about on how much they'll make. But mostly, we all want to see some action again.

It's obvious that boxing fans wants to see action on both fighters, that is if Mayweather would fight to to toe with Manny. The excitement brought by how Manny fight will be nothing if Mayweather still fight in a boring way.

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Quote from: MidKnight on January 24, 2019, 01:37:04 AM

I don't really know why people are still interested in that boring rematch.

Its because Manny Pacquiao is the closest fighter that can give Floyd a run for this money. And its not Manny's fault that the fight is boring because Floyd doesn't want to engaged him, as others have said before, Floyd just circle around and just waited to counter.

Quote from: MidKnight on January 24, 2019, 01:37:04 AM

Pacquiao's last fight just showed how he slowed down and he's not that a beast anymore and he's turning like Mayweather who just wait and wait before he punches. Just give this up guys so you won't complain that are again rob with a show that's not really worth your money.

I think you need to look at everyone's opinion in the boxing circle, there's a lot of boxers, trainers that said Manny is still fast at age 40. Again, it boils down as how his opponent reacts, in this case the records shows Broner just throw an average of 8 punch if I'm not mistaken. Might be boring for some, but Manny still proves he still has has it even he is past his prime.

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Quote from: sunsilk on January 24, 2019, 02:07:06 AM

Quote from: MidKnight on January 24, 2019, 01:37:04 AM

You will understand if you aren't satisfied with the match that they have held before. It's not about on how slow Pacquiao was on Broner's fight but it's about on how he's going to adjust and take back his loss from Mayweather.

The first one was boring but if Pacquiao won, would be accepted.
But the fact that he loss the game and everyone is rooting for him, that gives the hype of the 2nd fight now because Pacquiao just recently bring Broner to school. Well compared to Mayweather's fight against Pacquiao , I think the recent Pacquiao's fight is more boring, but they did earn a great amount from PPV, that means Pacquiao can bring money to the table.

Quote from: sunsilk on January 24, 2019, 02:07:06 AM

And it's more of a hype, boxing fans understands on how big this fight will including on how much money will be at stake. It's more of the personal views of the people aside from boxing and match but also about on how much they'll make. But mostly, we all want to see some action again.

We always buy this fight although we know it's gonna be another boring fight and I wouldn't be surprise if it will surpass the success of the previous fight.

My 2 cents.

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