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March 22, 2022, 01:56:42 AM

JAZAK ALLHA, Umer Bhai and Miss NooruHuda.
Aammeenn sir... And One more thing sir if you don't mind...
Larki yaa orat k liye ... JAZAKILLAH use hota yani mard k liye kaaf par zabar or orat k liye zer...






Han yehi dekh k mein apni retirement postponed kr di hay k abhi app logon ko bohat sara knowledge dena baqi hy.  Smiley

Juldi juldi saray sawal pooch lo takay mein bhi retirement wali life ka maza loon ...




Itni jaldi b kaya h ...
Abhi sath sath hi chaly gaa...
Or retirement kaa to sochen b mat ...
Sayeds sir ki age dekhi h... Retirement un ko nai mili to ap ki to banti hi nai h ...
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March 22, 2022, 01:00:30 AM
Bitcoin is more trackable than fiat. Sab kuch blockchain p transparent hay. Jo yeh kehtay hein k governments bitcoin is leiy use ni kerti kion k yeh track ni ho saktha, its a false myth. Yahan p loggon ka alt accounts pakaray jatay hein crypto transactions p aur hum baat kertay hein k track ni ho saktay  Cheesy
I have said I might be wrong. Because y mera low knowledge h ... M yhi sunti ai hun...
Iss liye y kaha m n k not easy to track..  
Ab kuch boli hun to knowledge mila ap s... Nai to ap to retirement dy k frar hony lagy thy... Cheesy


Han yehi dekh k mein apni retirement postponed kr di hay k abhi app logon ko bohat sara knowledge dena baqi hy.  Smiley

Juldi juldi saray sawal pooch lo takay mein bhi retirement wali life ka maza loon ...


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March 22, 2022, 12:53:37 AM
jese k India na 30% tax lagaya hai crypto per. To is trhan agar Pakistan 5-10% b tax lagata hai to is se kafi revenue jama ho sakta hai.

Yeh tab dekha jiey ga jab pakistan mein crypto legal hogi tu kitna tax lagay ga, 10% ya 30% ya kuch aur. But abi ramazan aa raaha hay aur hum sab logon ki yeh responsibility hay k humaray pass jitni bhi crypto hay ( Exchanges p, decentralized wallets p, staking p, hardware wallets p) aun sab ko calculate kerain aur ais p 2.5% zakat ada kereian. Aur han there are may zakat calclaulars available online and you can use any of them for your help. Aik example of calculator  is https://www.tcf.org.pk/zakat/zakat-calculator/.

Thanks Umer Bhai for sharing Zakat calculator. Mere khayl mein aisi Real estate property ( Plot, House or shop ) jo k apki investment ha or ap usko future mein sell kerna chahty han us pe zakat uski market value k hisab se 2.5% zakat pay kena hoti ha mgr mein 100% sure nhi houn ku k es k bary clarity nhi ha . Apka es bary mein kia khayal  ha?

G syed bhai, agar app nay koi zameen, house/shop ais niyat c buy kia hay k app future mein aus ko profit mein sell kerian ga tu aus p zakat hogi.

Lekin agar app nay ais niyat c plot buy kia k kaal ko you will make you home, tu aus plot p zakat ni. Aisi tarah if you bought house / shop not for selling purpose tu koi zakat ni. Han if you bought them and give them on rent, tu phir rent p zakat hogi sirf, aus plot, shop aur house ki value p ni.
Future mein agar app sell bhi ker detay hein tu jo amount receive hogi gi aus p hogi...kion k jab sell ki niyat hogi tabhi zakat laguu hogi.
I hope I am clear. Thanks

JAZAK ALLHA, Umer Bhai and Miss NooruHuda.
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March 21, 2022, 10:55:44 PM
jese k India na 30% tax lagaya hai crypto per. To is trhan agar Pakistan 5-10% b tax lagata hai to is se kafi revenue jama ho sakta hai.

Yeh tab dekha jiey ga jab pakistan mein crypto legal hogi tu kitna tax lagay ga, 10% ya 30% ya kuch aur. But abi ramazan aa raaha hay aur hum sab logon ki yeh responsibility hay k humaray pass jitni bhi crypto hay ( Exchanges p, decentralized wallets p, staking p, hardware wallets p) aun sab ko calculate kerain aur ais p 2.5% zakat ada kereian. Aur han there are may zakat calclaulars available online and you can use any of them for your help. Aik example of calculator  is https://www.tcf.org.pk/zakat/zakat-calculator/.

Thanks Umer Bhai for sharing Zakat calculator. Mere khayl mein aisi Real estate property ( Plot, House or shop ) jo k apki investment ha or ap usko future mein sell kerna chahty han us pe zakat uski market value k hisab se 2.5% zakat pay kena hoti ha mgr mein 100% sure nhi houn ku k es k bary clarity nhi ha . Apka es bary mein kia khayal  ha?

G syed bhai, agar app nay koi zameen, house/shop ais niyat c buy kia hay k app future mein aus ko profit mein sell kerian ga tu aus p zakat hogi.

Lekin agar app nay ais niyat c plot buy kia k kaal ko you will make you home, tu aus plot p zakat ni. Aisi tarah if you bought house / shop not for selling purpose tu koi zakat ni. Han if you bought them and give them on rent, tu phir rent p zakat hogi sirf, aus plot, shop aur house ki value p ni.
Future mein agar app sell bhi ker detay hein tu jo amount receive hogi gi aus p hogi...kion k jab sell ki niyat hogi tabhi zakat laguu hogi.
I hope I am clear. Thanks
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March 21, 2022, 10:45:54 PM
jese k India na 30% tax lagaya hai crypto per. To is trhan agar Pakistan 5-10% b tax lagata hai to is se kafi revenue jama ho sakta hai.

Yeh tab dekha jiey ga jab pakistan mein crypto legal hogi tu kitna tax lagay ga, 10% ya 30% ya kuch aur. But abi ramazan aa raaha hay aur hum sab logon ki yeh responsibility hay k humaray pass jitni bhi crypto hay ( Exchanges p, decentralized wallets p, staking p, hardware wallets p) aun sab ko calculate kerain aur ais p 2.5% zakat ada kereian. Aur han there are may zakat calclaulars available online and you can use any of them for your help. Aik example of calculator  is https://www.tcf.org.pk/zakat/zakat-calculator/.
G bilkul thk kaha ... Y lazmi hona chahye...
Allah ap k rizq m or barkat daly... Aammeenn



Thanks Umer Bhai for sharing Zakat calculator. Mere khayl mein aisi Real estate property ( Plot, House or shop ) jo k apki investment ha or ap usko future mein sell kerna chahty han us pe zakat uski market value k hisab se 2.5% zakat pay kena hoti ha mgr mein 100% sure nhi houn ku k es k bary clarity nhi ha . Apka es bary mein kia khayal  ha?
G g... Bilkul deni parti h zakat...
Zakat uss property par lagu nai hoti jo ap k zaati istimal m ho...
Or jo ap n jo bt ki wo bilkul thk h...
Or m is bary m clear hun... Baqi phr b link share kar deti hun...
Ta k ap b sure ho jaen... Or baqi b...

https://www.arabnews.com/node/296288
https://islamqa.org/hanafi/daruliftaa-birmingham/87014/zakat-on-a-plot-of-land/
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Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!
March 21, 2022, 09:20:30 PM
jese k India na 30% tax lagaya hai crypto per. To is trhan agar Pakistan 5-10% b tax lagata hai to is se kafi revenue jama ho sakta hai.

Yeh tab dekha jiey ga jab pakistan mein crypto legal hogi tu kitna tax lagay ga, 10% ya 30% ya kuch aur. But abi ramazan aa raaha hay aur hum sab logon ki yeh responsibility hay k humaray pass jitni bhi crypto hay ( Exchanges p, decentralized wallets p, staking p, hardware wallets p) aun sab ko calculate kerain aur ais p 2.5% zakat ada kereian. Aur han there are may zakat calclaulars available online and you can use any of them for your help. Aik example of calculator  is https://www.tcf.org.pk/zakat/zakat-calculator/.

Thanks Umer Bhai for sharing Zakat calculator. Mere khayl mein aisi Real estate property ( Plot, House or shop ) jo k apki investment ha or ap usko future mein sell kerna chahty han us pe zakat uski market value k hisab se 2.5% zakat pay kena hoti ha mgr mein 100% sure nhi houn ku k es k bary clarity nhi ha . Apka es bary mein kia khayal  ha?
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March 21, 2022, 08:33:10 PM
jese k India na 30% tax lagaya hai crypto per. To is trhan agar Pakistan 5-10% b tax lagata hai to is se kafi revenue jama ho sakta hai.

Yeh tab dekha jiey ga jab pakistan mein crypto legal hogi tu kitna tax lagay ga, 10% ya 30% ya kuch aur. But abi ramazan aa raaha hay aur hum sab logon ki yeh responsibility hay k humaray pass jitni bhi crypto hay ( Exchanges p, decentralized wallets p, staking p, hardware wallets p) aun sab ko calculate kerain aur ais p 2.5% zakat ada kereian. Aur han there are may zakat calclaulars available online and you can use any of them for your help. Aik example of calculator  is https://www.tcf.org.pk/zakat/zakat-calculator/.
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March 21, 2022, 02:36:48 PM


I don't think Kaptaan is against the cryptocurrency, i think he is waiting for the dust to settle before making any decision. And also he hasn't got the time to relax, the PDM has been on the move since the start of his govt, and also i think there is no proper person to guide IK about cryptocurrency, so he is more reluctant to accept the new financial world.
You almost wrote what I was thinking - I wish Kaptan get the right advisor to update him on Crypto and the wonder which crypto can do to the country. But how many people in Pakistan are aware of the crypto -- 20%?- This is surly a big percentage I mentioned. People need to be educated about the crypto and surely there will be good days coming soon.
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March 21, 2022, 01:29:33 PM


No, You are absolutely Right i just want to say every problem is cureable. We need fix issue on behalf of Just Baning  and Completely disconnecting it.

Everything will be fixed let me tell you how

Solution:
Its a rough sketch lets do it.

I want to say If Government lunches its own Centralized exchange (wait wait) just to Provide the Stable currency to its users to buy Crypto there will be a check point note check point government can Check which person is buying how much money then,

Again Nobody will be able to withdraw crypto into Cash or Country Currency without that exchange then government can charge taxs and track the Blance in between users are free to intrect.
Government has done so much for freelancers, just because they are bringing so much remittance to the nation- if the freelancer are acknowledged I am sure in coming days government will realize that crypto is fine market to be given due importance. Days are near when we will see good future of crypto in Pakistan - If Kaptain stays for sometime! 

I don't think Kaptaan is against the cryptocurrency, i think he is waiting for the dust to settle before making any decision. And also he hasn't got the time to relax, the PDM has been on the move since the start of his govt, and also i think there is no proper person to guide IK about cryptocurrency, so he is more reluctant to accept the new financial world.
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March 21, 2022, 11:52:38 AM
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Sorry out of topic hun ...
Par bt achi lagi to share ki...
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March 21, 2022, 10:36:43 AM
Monday still going red. Lets wait for next break through.


Bro the Closing was not good i said that in last post about moving average that BTC needs to break a Logical and Physical Resistance of 43500 and close weekly candle above 20 MA then we can see a big boom it didn't happened wait for the April. But May June are Bearish months.
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March 21, 2022, 10:29:58 AM
Monday still going red. Lets wait for next break through.

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March 21, 2022, 10:14:49 AM
Good news from a Pakistani perspective and for Waqar Zaka cointelegraph posted an amazing video about Crypto journey of Waqar Zaka

Its time to spread this to the world  Cool

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59596834

Shahzad afzal sahib apka is bare mai kya comments hain k Kya waqar zaka hum sub k liye theek kr rha hai.?

Koi bhi 100% good ya bad ni hota. I think  waqar zaka ki kuch batein achi bhi hein aur kuch sai ni bhi hein

Pros:
1) He is giving crypto awareness in 10$ per month jo k bohat cheap price hy.
2) He is fighting to make crypto legal

Cons:
1) He has some hidden agenda to promote his coin/exchanges
2) He is promoting future trading , new traders must be losing a lot
3) Woh trading sikka ni raha, he wants k you become his student forever and fazool batein like trading signals through astrology etc
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March 21, 2022, 09:58:27 AM

Kia Noor behna banda kiss kiss ko roey kasam se... wo punjabi main kehte hian... "jeda bhanoo oho laal aey    جیڑا بنھوں اہو لال اے" ... ap Pujabi nahi tu shaid us tarah samaj nah aey mutlab kuch aise hai jiss ko toro wohi ander se laal surkh hai or simple words main tabah haal hai.

ye wadera system sirf sindh main nahi hamary punjab aur Baluchistan main bhi bus naam aur shakal different hia kaam wohi hia... Punjab main Chaudhary, Rajay, Malik hon gey aur Baluchistan main shaid Sardaar but kaam aik jese he hian..

ye logon ki taderon se khalte hian... kiss ne kitna jeena hia aur kiss ne kitna khaana ye khuda ki is zameen pe nakhuda hian..
Sab s phly to m punjabi bht achy s smj leti hun...
Or m n y misal sirf Kala bhag dam ki waja s d...
Or ap thk khty hen... M b zara punjabi m ik mhawra bol deti hun... Ethy ty itt patto ty wadera niklda a..






Bitcoin is more trackable than fiat. Sab kuch blockchain p transparent hay. Jo yeh kehtay hein k governments bitcoin is leiy use ni kerti kion k yeh track ni ho saktha, its a false myth. Yahan p loggon ka alt accounts pakaray jatay hein crypto transactions p aur hum baat kertay hein k track ni ho saktay  Cheesy
I have said I might be wrong. Because y mera low knowledge h ... M yhi sunti ai hun...
Iss liye y kaha m n k not easy to track.. 
Ab kuch boli hun to knowledge mila ap s... Nai to ap to retirement dy k frar hony lagy thy... Cheesy




Of course to have a crypto in the first place you need to have fiat first and now if your fiat cash is a black or corrupt money of course your crypto assets will be corrupt too but if you have legal money and you convert it into crypto assets then your crypto is legal too.
O ly...
Y to m n socha hi nai... Thanks shahzadafzal...
Bilkul smj gai... K agar source hi black h to hm cryptocurrency ko bdnam q? Karty hen... Jab k invest hi black huwa h...
Thanks to all... Points clear ho gye...



Good news from a Pakistani perspective and for Waqar Zaka cointelegraph posted an amazing video about Crypto journey of Waqar Zaka

“Crypto Billionaire”



https://youtu.be/eZ0dFzxXTV4

Y to sai hero ban gaya h...
Chalen g Allah kary is ki mhnten rang ly aen... Aammeenn
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March 21, 2022, 09:24:04 AM
Good news from a Pakistani perspective and for Waqar Zaka cointelegraph posted an amazing video about Crypto journey of Waqar Zaka

“Crypto Billionaire”



https://youtu.be/eZ0dFzxXTV4
Very good animated video.
Waqar zaka kafi mehnat to kar raha hai k Pakistan mai b crypto currency legalize ho jaye. Allah kre iski mehnat rang ly aye. Agar Pakistan mai crypto currency legal ho jati hai to is se Pakistan ko kafi faida ho ga. jese k India na 30% tax lagaya hai crypto per. To is trhan agar Pakistan 5-10% b tax lagata hai to is se kafi revenue jama ho sakta hai.
Shahzad afzal sahib apka is bare mai kya comments hain k Kya waqar zaka hum sub k liye theek kr rha hai.?
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March 21, 2022, 08:13:46 AM
Good news from a Pakistani perspective and for Waqar Zaka cointelegraph posted an amazing video about Crypto journey of Waqar Zaka

“Crypto Billionaire”



https://youtu.be/eZ0dFzxXTV4
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March 21, 2022, 07:26:06 AM
Now whether it's easy to track or not... I guess this is the most easiest part... We have seen in US FBI have recovered stolen Bitcoin and seized funds worth millions of dollars in bitcoins, not only one time but now this happening quite often... so we can't say that it's not possible to track crypto transactions. It is very much possible.

Yes on the anonymity part you might be right to some extent but once you try to convert you crypto to fiat you know how easy it will be to link your so called "anonymous crypto wallet" to your passport, Goverment id, your selfie, your mobile number or whatever garbage we have been upload to these exchanges.


Bitcoin is more trackable than fiat. Sab kuch blockchain p transparent hay. Jo yeh kehtay hein k governments bitcoin is leiy use ni kerti kion k yeh track ni ho saktha, its a false myth. Yahan p loggon ka alt accounts pakaray jatay hein crypto transactions p aur hum baat kertay hein k track ni ho saktay  Cheesy


So to stay anonyms, don't convert your "stolen" cryptos to fait Smiley just kidding.

First, convert them into Monero cryptocurrency and then do whatever you feel like  Wink

Asslam o Alikum
Sir Umer i have already mentioned in my post that Government use these lame excuses well it is lame excuse as you explained.
Financial systems and the type of Democracy in which Asian Countries especially like Pakistan India are Living There Money Laundering can not be controlled because the system which develop to control is it dont have powers to Stop it they can just track even now thay even cant track.
System Should provide power to them that they can punish those involved people without any interference.
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March 21, 2022, 05:20:10 AM
Now whether it's easy to track or not... I guess this is the most easiest part... We have seen in US FBI have recovered stolen Bitcoin and seized funds worth millions of dollars in bitcoins, not only one time but now this happening quite often... so we can't say that it's not possible to track crypto transactions. It is very much possible.

Yes on the anonymity part you might be right to some extent but once you try to convert you crypto to fiat you know how easy it will be to link your so called "anonymous crypto wallet" to your passport, Goverment id, your selfie, your mobile number or whatever garbage we have been upload to these exchanges.


Bitcoin is more trackable than fiat. Sab kuch blockchain p transparent hay. Jo yeh kehtay hein k governments bitcoin is leiy use ni kerti kion k yeh track ni ho saktha, its a false myth. Yahan p loggon ka alt accounts pakaray jatay hein crypto transactions p aur hum baat kertay hein k track ni ho saktay  Cheesy


So to stay anonyms, don't convert your "stolen" cryptos to fait Smiley just kidding.

First, convert them into Monero cryptocurrency and then do whatever you feel like  Wink
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March 21, 2022, 05:12:06 AM
Very well explained.

Let me explain little bit more.
Government hates cryptocurrency because it can be used for.
1. Money Laundring
2. Terrorism

And some points are also here.
1.Not easy to track.
2. Sender & Gainer remain anonymous.

I may be wrong.
If I so please tell me where?


I will beg to disagree please...

Money laundering is just an excuse, when your internal financial system is broken and it facilitates money laundering crypto or fiat no one can stop money laundering.
Of course to have a crypto in the first place you need to have fiat first and now if your fiat cash is a black or corrupt money of course your crypto assets will be corrupt too but if you have legal money and you convert it into crypto assets then your crypto is legal too.

So we should fix our financial system first, if we fix this money laundering in crypto will not happen. Same applies to terrorism its just a speculation, there are no proofs that Cyrpto/Bitcoin is funding terrorism.

Now whether it's easy to track or not... I guess this is the most easiest part... We have seen in US FBI have recovered stolen Bitcoin and seized funds worth millions of dollars in bitcoins, not only one time but now this happening quite often... so we can't say that it's not possible to track crypto transactions. It is very much possible.

Yes on the anonymity part you might be right to some extent but once you try to convert you crypto to fiat you know how easy it will be to link your so called "anonymous crypto wallet" to your passport, Goverment id, your selfie, your mobile number or whatever garbage we have been upload to these exchanges.

So to stay anonyms, don't convert your "stolen" cryptos to fait Smiley just kidding.




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March 21, 2022, 04:46:33 AM
Ladies and gentlemen, woh log jo bitcoin ki four year cycle p yaqeen rakthay hein aunhein apni sooch ko badlna hoga. Bitcoin ab aus tarah c behave ni ker raha aur na ais bar blow off top aya bitcoin ki prices mein. Ais ka mutlab yeh hua k bitcoin agar bohat zada pump hi hu ais bull run mein tu bohat zada dump bhi ni hoga aur shaid hum dobara 30,000$ c kabi neechay na jaaien.

Badal giya hay bitcoin badal giya hay zamana...






https://cointelegraph.com/news/no-more-4-year-cycles-5-things-to-know-in-bitcoin-this-week
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