I'm pretty much f*cked over with all these Panda's roaming...
Is this the PND PandaCoin? or ...
Topic: [pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ - page 148. (Read 398951 times)
February 17, 2014, 04:01:43 PM
February 17, 2014, 04:00:28 PM
*p2pool
Here is a patch to get a public thepandacoin p2pool node, this patch applies to the original vertcoin p2pool code (git clone git://github.com/donSchoe/p2pool-vtc).
You may setup your own p2pool node. You will get a low latency, low dead on arrival stratum server, and no fees....
p2pool
diff -r -u /dosr/src/p2pool-vtccoins-20140217/p2pool/bitcoin/networks.py p2pool-vtccoins-20140217/p2pool/bitcoin/networks.py
--- /dosr/src/p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/bitcoin/networks.py 2014-02-15 15:45:28.000000000 +0100
+++ p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/bitcoin/networks.py 2014-02-17 19:02:53.000000000 +0100
@@ -252,6 +252,29 @@
DUMB_SCRYPT_DIFF=2**16,
DUST_THRESHOLD=0.03e8,
),
+
+ thepandacoin=math.Object(
+ P2P_PREFIX='fabfb5da'.decode('hex'),
+ P2P_PORT=8889,
+ ADDRESS_VERSION=56,
+ RPC_PORT=5888,
+ RPC_CHECK=defer.inlineCallbacks(lambda bitcoind: defer.returnValue(
+ 'thepandacoinaddress' in (yield bitcoind.rpc_help()) and
+ not (yield bitcoind.rpc_getinfo())['testnet']
+ )),
+ SUBSIDY_FUNC=lambda height: 50*100000000 >> (height + 1)//840000,
+ POW_FUNC=lambda data: pack.IntType(256).unpack(__import__('vtc_scrypt').getPoWHash(data)),
+ BLOCK_PERIOD=150, # s
+ SYMBOL='PANDA',
+ CONF_FILE_FUNC=lambda: os.path.join(os.path.join(os.environ['APPDATA'], 'Thepandacoin') if platform.system() == 'Windows' else os.path.expanduser('~/Library/Application Support/Thepandacoin/') if platform.system() == 'Darwin' else os.path.expanduser('~/.thepandacoin'), 'thepandacoin.conf'),
+ BLOCK_EXPLORER_URL_PREFIX='http://explorer.thepandacoin.org/block/',
+ ADDRESS_EXPLORER_URL_PREFIX='http://explorer.thepandacoin.org/address/',
+ TX_EXPLORER_URL_PREFIX='http://explorer.thepandacoin.org/tx/',
+ SANE_TARGET_RANGE=(2**256//1000000000 - 1, 2**256//1000 - 1),
+ DUMB_SCRYPT_DIFF=2**16,
+ DUST_THRESHOLD=0.03e8,
+ ),
+
)
for net_name, net in nets.iteritems():
net.NAME = net_name
diff -r -u /dosr/src/p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/networks.py p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/networks.py
--- /dosr/src/p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/networks.py 2014-02-16 11:28:40.000000000 +0100
+++ p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/networks.py 2014-02-17 19:06:12.000000000 +0100
@@ -160,6 +160,26 @@
ANNOUNCE_CHANNEL='#cachecoin-bots',
VERSION_CHECK=lambda v: True,
),
+
+ thepandacoin=math.Object(
+ PARENT=networks.nets['thepandacoin'],
+ SHARE_PERIOD=15, # seconds
+ CHAIN_LENGTH=1*60*60//10, # shares
+ REAL_CHAIN_LENGTH=1*60*60//10, # shares
+ TARGET_LOOKBEHIND=200, # shares
+ SPREAD=12, # blocks
+ IDENTIFIER='a06a81c827ca8129'.decode('hex'),
+ PREFIX='7c3614a6bcdc4192'.decode('hex'),
+ P2P_PORT=18187,
+ MIN_TARGET=4,
+ MAX_TARGET=2**256//2**20 - 1,
+ PERSIST=False,
+ WORKER_PORT=8169,
+ BOOTSTRAP_ADDRS='rock.awiki.org wolf.awiki.org'.split(' '),
+ ANNOUNCE_CHANNEL='#p2pool-vtc',
+ VERSION_CHECK=lambda v: True,
+ ),
+
)
for net_name, net in nets.iteritems():
net.NAME = net_name
Here is a patch to get a public thepandacoin p2pool node, this patch applies to the original vertcoin p2pool code (git clone git://github.com/donSchoe/p2pool-vtc).
You may setup your own p2pool node. You will get a low latency, low dead on arrival stratum server, and no fees....
p2pool
diff -r -u /dosr/src/p2pool-vtccoins-20140217/p2pool/bitcoin/networks.py p2pool-vtccoins-20140217/p2pool/bitcoin/networks.py
--- /dosr/src/p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/bitcoin/networks.py 2014-02-15 15:45:28.000000000 +0100
+++ p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/bitcoin/networks.py 2014-02-17 19:02:53.000000000 +0100
@@ -252,6 +252,29 @@
DUMB_SCRYPT_DIFF=2**16,
DUST_THRESHOLD=0.03e8,
),
+
+ thepandacoin=math.Object(
+ P2P_PREFIX='fabfb5da'.decode('hex'),
+ P2P_PORT=8889,
+ ADDRESS_VERSION=56,
+ RPC_PORT=5888,
+ RPC_CHECK=defer.inlineCallbacks(lambda bitcoind: defer.returnValue(
+ 'thepandacoinaddress' in (yield bitcoind.rpc_help()) and
+ not (yield bitcoind.rpc_getinfo())['testnet']
+ )),
+ SUBSIDY_FUNC=lambda height: 50*100000000 >> (height + 1)//840000,
+ POW_FUNC=lambda data: pack.IntType(256).unpack(__import__('vtc_scrypt').getPoWHash(data)),
+ BLOCK_PERIOD=150, # s
+ SYMBOL='PANDA',
+ CONF_FILE_FUNC=lambda: os.path.join(os.path.join(os.environ['APPDATA'], 'Thepandacoin') if platform.system() == 'Windows' else os.path.expanduser('~/Library/Application Support/Thepandacoin/') if platform.system() == 'Darwin' else os.path.expanduser('~/.thepandacoin'), 'thepandacoin.conf'),
+ BLOCK_EXPLORER_URL_PREFIX='http://explorer.thepandacoin.org/block/',
+ ADDRESS_EXPLORER_URL_PREFIX='http://explorer.thepandacoin.org/address/',
+ TX_EXPLORER_URL_PREFIX='http://explorer.thepandacoin.org/tx/',
+ SANE_TARGET_RANGE=(2**256//1000000000 - 1, 2**256//1000 - 1),
+ DUMB_SCRYPT_DIFF=2**16,
+ DUST_THRESHOLD=0.03e8,
+ ),
+
)
for net_name, net in nets.iteritems():
net.NAME = net_name
diff -r -u /dosr/src/p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/networks.py p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/networks.py
--- /dosr/src/p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/networks.py 2014-02-16 11:28:40.000000000 +0100
+++ p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/networks.py 2014-02-17 19:06:12.000000000 +0100
@@ -160,6 +160,26 @@
ANNOUNCE_CHANNEL='#cachecoin-bots',
VERSION_CHECK=lambda v: True,
),
+
+ thepandacoin=math.Object(
+ PARENT=networks.nets['thepandacoin'],
+ SHARE_PERIOD=15, # seconds
+ CHAIN_LENGTH=1*60*60//10, # shares
+ REAL_CHAIN_LENGTH=1*60*60//10, # shares
+ TARGET_LOOKBEHIND=200, # shares
+ SPREAD=12, # blocks
+ IDENTIFIER='a06a81c827ca8129'.decode('hex'),
+ PREFIX='7c3614a6bcdc4192'.decode('hex'),
+ P2P_PORT=18187,
+ MIN_TARGET=4,
+ MAX_TARGET=2**256//2**20 - 1,
+ PERSIST=False,
+ WORKER_PORT=8169,
+ BOOTSTRAP_ADDRS='rock.awiki.org wolf.awiki.org'.split(' '),
+ ANNOUNCE_CHANNEL='#p2pool-vtc',
+ VERSION_CHECK=lambda v: True,
+ ),
+
)
for net_name, net in nets.iteritems():
net.NAME = net_name
I was looking for the p2pool parameters... Good Job!
As soon as the block explorer is available, these parameters can be updated. SUBSIDY_FUNC=lambda height: 50*100000000 >> (height + 1)//840000 is quite useless, the p2pool get this value for the daemon, and for each block; anyway this line may be updated for the next release to a more complex function that look like: SUBSIDY_FUNC=lambda height: 500e3*100000000 >> ( 1 if (height + 1)<50000 then (2 if ( (height + 1)<100000) then ...)), to be closer to source code.
February 17, 2014, 03:57:24 PM
MINUTES AWAY FROM 5GHASH!!!!! growth selectah
February 17, 2014, 03:49:32 PM
What are the optimal mining settings for a R9 280X?
-I 13 -w 256 --lookup-gap 2 -g 2 --thread-concurrency 8193 --shaders 2048 --gpu-engine 1069 --gpu-memclock 1500 --gpu-vddc 1.065 --gpu-powertune -20 --gpu-fan 60
382 for me
February 17, 2014, 03:43:33 PM
What are the optimal mining settings for a R9 280X?
All the parameters are available on the vertcoin settings thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=416572.560
February 17, 2014, 03:19:16 PM
What are the optimal mining settings for a R9 280X?
February 17, 2014, 03:13:00 PM
Pandacoin Pool
http://panda.novahash.org/ - Stratum, Vardiff
Pool is up and running. Miners wanted.
PPLNS, 1%, 0.1 PANDA TX Fee
First 25 users get 0% Fee for life
10k Panda BONUS TO FIRST BLOCK FINDER
Don't miss the bonus, jump in right now.
February 17, 2014, 03:01:18 PM
50k giveaway at 100mhash! We currently have 40mhash, which is +100% in 10 hours!
February 17, 2014, 02:51:33 PM
CALCULATOR - PANDA / day
Z=X*288000000/(Y*85,89934592/3)
X - you hashrate in Mh/s
Y - Diff
Z - PANDA/day
Y*85,89934592/3 - hashrate net Pandacoin in Mh/s
Thanks - PuRfktYiwxnUk5VyFgTUecFK8MH7jVrb3U
sorry for bad English
Z=X*288000000/(Y*85,89934592/3)
X - you hashrate in Mh/s
Y - Diff
Z - PANDA/day
Y*85,89934592/3 - hashrate net Pandacoin in Mh/s
Thanks - PuRfktYiwxnUk5VyFgTUecFK8MH7jVrb3U
sorry for bad English
February 17, 2014, 02:38:43 PM
Gents, I need help from someone who is smarter then me... So that should not be to difficult :-)
How much time is needed to solo mine a pandaCoin block with 2,5MH/s calculating power?
If there is a calculator, i would appreciate a link. If there is a formula, so I can calculate for myself, even better!
Thnx in advance.
How much time is needed to solo mine a pandaCoin block with 2,5MH/s calculating power?
If there is a calculator, i would appreciate a link. If there is a formula, so I can calculate for myself, even better!
Thnx in advance.
I would roughly guess about 2-3 days
how did you calculate that?
This is very easy to do on coinwars. Just go to the mining calculator and change the values of something.
Yea I just did it in my head based on what I'm farming currently but if I go to coinwarz and use the calculator it comes up with 2.98 days to find a block at 2500MH/s
Here is the formula:
octave -q --eval "d=$(thepandacoind getdifficulty);c=500e3;h=2.5e6;t=d*(2**32)/h;printf(\"time=%16.13fs - coins/day=%16.13f\",t,24*3600/t*c);";
time=252325.1550484797917s - coins/day=171207.6625562754052
using octave under linux. So the expected time between block is: 171207.66 seconds...
Using the new p2pool above, on your own local node is the better way; You will get all the advantages of solo mining... low latency, low gpu power lost (low DOA...)...
February 17, 2014, 02:27:37 PM
Gents, I need help from someone who is smarter then me... So that should not be to difficult :-)
How much time is needed to solo mine a pandaCoin block with 2,5MH/s calculating power?
If there is a calculator, i would appreciate a link. If there is a formula, so I can calculate for myself, even better!
Thnx in advance.
How much time is needed to solo mine a pandaCoin block with 2,5MH/s calculating power?
If there is a calculator, i would appreciate a link. If there is a formula, so I can calculate for myself, even better!
Thnx in advance.
I would roughly guess about 2-3 days
how did you calculate that?
This is very easy to do on coinwars. Just go to the mining calculator and change the values of something.
Yea I just did it in my head based on what I'm farming currently but if I go to coinwarz and use the calculator it comes up with 2.98 days to find a block at 2500MH/s
February 17, 2014, 02:22:57 PM
Gents, I need help from someone who is smarter then me... So that should not be to difficult :-)
How much time is needed to solo mine a pandaCoin block with 2,5MH/s calculating power?
If there is a calculator, i would appreciate a link. If there is a formula, so I can calculate for myself, even better!
Thnx in advance.
How much time is needed to solo mine a pandaCoin block with 2,5MH/s calculating power?
If there is a calculator, i would appreciate a link. If there is a formula, so I can calculate for myself, even better!
Thnx in advance.
I would roughly guess about 2-3 days
how did you calculate that?
This is very easy to do on coinwars. Just go to the mining calculator and change the values of something.
We could use a panda coin calculator if anyone wants to make one for their pool I would link it from the main page.
February 17, 2014, 02:07:14 PM
Gents, I need help from someone who is smarter then me... So that should not be to difficult :-)
How much time is needed to solo mine a pandaCoin block with 2,5MH/s calculating power?
If there is a calculator, i would appreciate a link. If there is a formula, so I can calculate for myself, even better!
Thnx in advance.
How much time is needed to solo mine a pandaCoin block with 2,5MH/s calculating power?
If there is a calculator, i would appreciate a link. If there is a formula, so I can calculate for myself, even better!
Thnx in advance.
I would roughly guess about 2-3 days
how did you calculate that?
This is very easy to do on coinwars. Just go to the mining calculator and change the values of something.
February 17, 2014, 02:06:21 PM
yeah my miner is still working away, but nothing showing for me in ages... pool sent 13k coins to my wallet over an hour ago, and not a single coin mined by me since???
just so you are aware that that pool is the PND coin and not our coin PANDA..
If you want to get coins quickly p2pools are the best...
have used poolerino, and now using dedicated pool - the same issue - was fine earlier, collected coins - but since then 0 confirmed or unconfirmed even.
never seen it like this - maybe a big delay, i have restarted the miner, working fine... but same issue
February 17, 2014, 01:49:42 PM
is there a wallet paper for this one somewhere?
Working on this now, will be part of the foundation once we launch, so you'll know it's legit
February 17, 2014, 01:47:46 PM
*p2pool
Here is a patch to get a public thepandacoin p2pool node, this patch applies to the original vertcoin p2pool code (git clone git://github.com/donSchoe/p2pool-vtc).
You may setup your own p2pool node. You will get a low latency, low dead on arrival stratum server, and no fees....
p2pool
diff -r -u /dosr/src/p2pool-vtccoins-20140217/p2pool/bitcoin/networks.py p2pool-vtccoins-20140217/p2pool/bitcoin/networks.py
--- /dosr/src/p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/bitcoin/networks.py 2014-02-15 15:45:28.000000000 +0100
+++ p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/bitcoin/networks.py 2014-02-17 19:02:53.000000000 +0100
@@ -252,6 +252,29 @@
DUMB_SCRYPT_DIFF=2**16,
DUST_THRESHOLD=0.03e8,
),
+
+ thepandacoin=math.Object(
+ P2P_PREFIX='fabfb5da'.decode('hex'),
+ P2P_PORT=8889,
+ ADDRESS_VERSION=56,
+ RPC_PORT=5888,
+ RPC_CHECK=defer.inlineCallbacks(lambda bitcoind: defer.returnValue(
+ 'thepandacoinaddress' in (yield bitcoind.rpc_help()) and
+ not (yield bitcoind.rpc_getinfo())['testnet']
+ )),
+ SUBSIDY_FUNC=lambda height: 50*100000000 >> (height + 1)//840000,
+ POW_FUNC=lambda data: pack.IntType(256).unpack(__import__('vtc_scrypt').getPoWHash(data)),
+ BLOCK_PERIOD=150, # s
+ SYMBOL='PANDA',
+ CONF_FILE_FUNC=lambda: os.path.join(os.path.join(os.environ['APPDATA'], 'Thepandacoin') if platform.system() == 'Windows' else os.path.expanduser('~/Library/Application Support/Thepandacoin/') if platform.system() == 'Darwin' else os.path.expanduser('~/.thepandacoin'), 'thepandacoin.conf'),
+ BLOCK_EXPLORER_URL_PREFIX='http://explorer.thepandacoin.org/block/',
+ ADDRESS_EXPLORER_URL_PREFIX='http://explorer.thepandacoin.org/address/',
+ TX_EXPLORER_URL_PREFIX='http://explorer.thepandacoin.org/tx/',
+ SANE_TARGET_RANGE=(2**256//1000000000 - 1, 2**256//1000 - 1),
+ DUMB_SCRYPT_DIFF=2**16,
+ DUST_THRESHOLD=0.03e8,
+ ),
+
)
for net_name, net in nets.iteritems():
net.NAME = net_name
diff -r -u /dosr/src/p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/networks.py p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/networks.py
--- /dosr/src/p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/networks.py 2014-02-16 11:28:40.000000000 +0100
+++ p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/networks.py 2014-02-17 19:06:12.000000000 +0100
@@ -160,6 +160,26 @@
ANNOUNCE_CHANNEL='#cachecoin-bots',
VERSION_CHECK=lambda v: True,
),
+
+ thepandacoin=math.Object(
+ PARENT=networks.nets['thepandacoin'],
+ SHARE_PERIOD=15, # seconds
+ CHAIN_LENGTH=1*60*60//10, # shares
+ REAL_CHAIN_LENGTH=1*60*60//10, # shares
+ TARGET_LOOKBEHIND=200, # shares
+ SPREAD=12, # blocks
+ IDENTIFIER='a06a81c827ca8129'.decode('hex'),
+ PREFIX='7c3614a6bcdc4192'.decode('hex'),
+ P2P_PORT=18187,
+ MIN_TARGET=4,
+ MAX_TARGET=2**256//2**20 - 1,
+ PERSIST=False,
+ WORKER_PORT=8169,
+ BOOTSTRAP_ADDRS='rock.awiki.org wolf.awiki.org'.split(' '),
+ ANNOUNCE_CHANNEL='#p2pool-vtc',
+ VERSION_CHECK=lambda v: True,
+ ),
+
)
for net_name, net in nets.iteritems():
net.NAME = net_name
Here is a patch to get a public thepandacoin p2pool node, this patch applies to the original vertcoin p2pool code (git clone git://github.com/donSchoe/p2pool-vtc).
You may setup your own p2pool node. You will get a low latency, low dead on arrival stratum server, and no fees....
p2pool
diff -r -u /dosr/src/p2pool-vtccoins-20140217/p2pool/bitcoin/networks.py p2pool-vtccoins-20140217/p2pool/bitcoin/networks.py
--- /dosr/src/p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/bitcoin/networks.py 2014-02-15 15:45:28.000000000 +0100
+++ p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/bitcoin/networks.py 2014-02-17 19:02:53.000000000 +0100
@@ -252,6 +252,29 @@
DUMB_SCRYPT_DIFF=2**16,
DUST_THRESHOLD=0.03e8,
),
+
+ thepandacoin=math.Object(
+ P2P_PREFIX='fabfb5da'.decode('hex'),
+ P2P_PORT=8889,
+ ADDRESS_VERSION=56,
+ RPC_PORT=5888,
+ RPC_CHECK=defer.inlineCallbacks(lambda bitcoind: defer.returnValue(
+ 'thepandacoinaddress' in (yield bitcoind.rpc_help()) and
+ not (yield bitcoind.rpc_getinfo())['testnet']
+ )),
+ SUBSIDY_FUNC=lambda height: 50*100000000 >> (height + 1)//840000,
+ POW_FUNC=lambda data: pack.IntType(256).unpack(__import__('vtc_scrypt').getPoWHash(data)),
+ BLOCK_PERIOD=150, # s
+ SYMBOL='PANDA',
+ CONF_FILE_FUNC=lambda: os.path.join(os.path.join(os.environ['APPDATA'], 'Thepandacoin') if platform.system() == 'Windows' else os.path.expanduser('~/Library/Application Support/Thepandacoin/') if platform.system() == 'Darwin' else os.path.expanduser('~/.thepandacoin'), 'thepandacoin.conf'),
+ BLOCK_EXPLORER_URL_PREFIX='http://explorer.thepandacoin.org/block/',
+ ADDRESS_EXPLORER_URL_PREFIX='http://explorer.thepandacoin.org/address/',
+ TX_EXPLORER_URL_PREFIX='http://explorer.thepandacoin.org/tx/',
+ SANE_TARGET_RANGE=(2**256//1000000000 - 1, 2**256//1000 - 1),
+ DUMB_SCRYPT_DIFF=2**16,
+ DUST_THRESHOLD=0.03e8,
+ ),
+
)
for net_name, net in nets.iteritems():
net.NAME = net_name
diff -r -u /dosr/src/p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/networks.py p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/networks.py
--- /dosr/src/p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/networks.py 2014-02-16 11:28:40.000000000 +0100
+++ p2pool-vtccoins-20140127/p2pool/networks.py 2014-02-17 19:06:12.000000000 +0100
@@ -160,6 +160,26 @@
ANNOUNCE_CHANNEL='#cachecoin-bots',
VERSION_CHECK=lambda v: True,
),
+
+ thepandacoin=math.Object(
+ PARENT=networks.nets['thepandacoin'],
+ SHARE_PERIOD=15, # seconds
+ CHAIN_LENGTH=1*60*60//10, # shares
+ REAL_CHAIN_LENGTH=1*60*60//10, # shares
+ TARGET_LOOKBEHIND=200, # shares
+ SPREAD=12, # blocks
+ IDENTIFIER='a06a81c827ca8129'.decode('hex'),
+ PREFIX='7c3614a6bcdc4192'.decode('hex'),
+ P2P_PORT=18187,
+ MIN_TARGET=4,
+ MAX_TARGET=2**256//2**20 - 1,
+ PERSIST=False,
+ WORKER_PORT=8169,
+ BOOTSTRAP_ADDRS='rock.awiki.org wolf.awiki.org'.split(' '),
+ ANNOUNCE_CHANNEL='#p2pool-vtc',
+ VERSION_CHECK=lambda v: True,
+ ),
+
)
for net_name, net in nets.iteritems():
net.NAME = net_name
I was looking for the p2pool parameters... Good Job!
February 17, 2014, 01:43:55 PM
50k giveaway at 100mhash! We currently have 60mhash, which is +200% in 10 hours!
February 17, 2014, 01:43:51 PM
Gents, I need help from someone who is smarter then me... So that should not be to difficult :-)
How much time is needed to solo mine a pandaCoin block with 2,5MH/s calculating power?
If there is a calculator, i would appreciate a link. If there is a formula, so I can calculate for myself, even better!
Thnx in advance.
How much time is needed to solo mine a pandaCoin block with 2,5MH/s calculating power?
If there is a calculator, i would appreciate a link. If there is a formula, so I can calculate for myself, even better!
Thnx in advance.
I would roughly guess about 2-3 days
how did you calculate that?
February 17, 2014, 01:42:19 PM
yeah my miner is still working away, but nothing showing for me in ages... pool sent 13k coins to my wallet over an hour ago, and not a single coin mined by me since???
just so you are aware that that pool is the PND coin and not our coin PANDA..
If you want to get coins quickly p2pools are the best...
February 17, 2014, 01:38:21 PM
Business over ego.
One for sure, wolong is a smart guy no matter if you think good or bad about him, right?
I guess after all rumor a clever one like he is, would be in both PANDA and PND to max his
profit in the end. Maybe the best for future to own both?
One for sure, wolong is a smart guy no matter if you think good or bad about him, right?
I guess after all rumor a clever one like he is, would be in both PANDA and PND to max his
profit in the end. Maybe the best for future to own both?
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