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jr. member
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Men i stop with bitcoins, all coins are ponzi scheme.. bye bye.. and wolong.. if u read this, die with your mom and your family.
I know u visit sometimes Netherlands nearly Rotterdam and i know how you look like.

Come here and if i see you, i will kipnapp you and knock you down till u almost dead. still alive to let you suffer.
Mother fkcer

I'm not want to post on message boards, however I feel compelled state my opinion on what I see going on here.   Most people are are going to hate what I have to say, but F them they are the sheeple that are bitching about getting scammed.

So here we go....

If you are "investing" cash you can't afford to lose in an alt-crypto currencies, you are a moron.  If you don't realize that the whole crypto currency is the new "Wild West" (USA slang reference) you are also a moron.  I have no problem when stupid people do stupid things and get crushed, learn from your mistakes.  I've traded futures and commodities for 16 years professionally as an exchange member, I learned what to do by learning what not to do.  The pain of losing money is a great teacher.  However, most people are to weak to learn from the pain and just quit. If you want to ever really make money trading anything, you need to realize losses are inevitable, and you need to take your losses when you plan isn't playing out.

I wasn't going to mine this coin because it premise was retarded, "backed by Wolong" Who the fuck is Wolong?  I looked him up and he is some "Asian Crypto Currency Sage"(sarcasm inserted).   Ok, after finding that out I thought... I want to mine this knowing this is going to be a pump and dump, especially after with all the hype that was coming around the launch date.  I was only made aware of this coin cause I was mining VRT, and another VRT miner told me about it.  So Mined the coin from the get go and 24hrs after.  I mined around 37million coins and sold up from 45 all the way to 98, my volume weighted average sell was 72.  This was my plan, be out within 2 days, max. Sooner if the market takes me out at prices.  

What I see on these boards are a lot of people who want to be "crypto currency traders" and a lot of people looking to get rich quick, but don't have a clue what they are doing or how markets work.  It's like the poker saying,  "If you sit down at the table and can't spot who the sucker is, it's you".  So to all the suckers you bought my coins from me, thank you and please learn from your mistakes and review your logic for buying this coin at the prices you did.  Don't ever put your money at risk because someone else gives you a tip,  consider who they are and what there angle is.  

My final thoughts are this... my miners are back on this coin and I'm using 20% of what I made from this coin to buy it back (my plan is risk 20% of what I made from this coin to buy it back knowing it could be worthless, but if it works the rewards are worth the risk) I've been buying below 5 sats and have bids in from 4 down to 1.  My premiss is probably 2/3 the coins are now controlled by less then 10 people.  It may take few more days to get the weak hands out and absorb what the other miners are selling, but I don't think the other big stake holders are are looking to for a few statoshi's on their positions.

Lastly, everyone says this coin is dead fuck it.  But I guarantee if this coin does move back up everyone denouncing it will come back and mine, in the end its all about the money.

FYI what are the odds I put on this coin coming back to life, I think around 20%, but if it does the size of my bet is worth the potential payoff.  

My rambling is over, hope I didn't piss off to many people.  If I did, then you don't get this game anyway, so who cares.

Well said! ROFL.
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I'm not want to post on message boards, however I feel compelled state my opinion on what I see going on here.   Most people are are going to hate what I have to say, but F them they are the sheeple that are bitching about getting scammed.

So here we go....

If you are "investing" cash you can't afford to lose in an alt-crypto currencies, you are a moron.  If you don't realize that the whole crypto currency is the new "Wild West" (USA slang reference) you are also a moron.  I have no problem when stupid people do stupid things and get crushed, learn from your mistakes.  I've traded futures and commodities for 16 years professionally as an exchange member, I learned what to do by learning what not to do.  The pain of losing money is a great teacher.  However, most people are to weak to learn from the pain and just quit. If you want to ever really make money trading anything, you need to realize losses are inevitable, and you need to take your losses when you plan isn't playing out.

I wasn't going to mine this coin because it premise was retarded, "backed by Wolong" Who the fuck is Wolong?  I looked him up and he is some "Asian Crypto Currency Sage"(sarcasm inserted).   Ok, after finding that out I thought... I want to mine this knowing this is going to be a pump and dump, especially after with all the hype that was coming around the launch date.  I was only made aware of this coin cause I was mining VRT, and another VRT miner told me about it.  So Mined the coin from the get go and 24hrs after.  I mined around 37million coins and sold up from 45 all the way to 98, my volume weighted average sell was 72.  This was my plan, be out within 2 days, max. Sooner if the market takes me out at prices.  

What I see on these boards are a lot of people who want to be "crypto currency traders" and a lot of people looking to get rich quick, but don't have a clue what they are doing or how markets work.  It's like the poker saying,  "If you sit down at the table and can't spot who the sucker is, it's you".  So to all the suckers you bought my coins from me, thank you and please learn from your mistakes and review your logic for buying this coin at the prices you did.  Don't ever put your money at risk because someone else gives you a tip,  consider who they are and what there angle is.  

My final thoughts are this... my miners are back on this coin and I'm using 20% of what I made from this coin to buy it back (my plan is risk 20% of what I made from this coin to buy it back knowing it could be worthless, but if it works the rewards are worth the risk) I've been buying below 5 sats and have bids in from 4 down to 1.  My premiss is probably 2/3 the coins are now controlled by less then 10 people.  It may take few more days to get the weak hands out and absorb what the other miners are selling, but I don't think the other big stake holders are are looking to for a few statoshi's on their positions.

Lastly, everyone says this coin is dead fuck it.  But I guarantee if this coin does move back up everyone denouncing it will come back and mine, in the end its all about the money.

FYI what are the odds I put on this coin coming back to life, I think around 20%, but if it does the size of my bet is worth the potential payoff.  

My rambling is over, hope I didn't piss off to many people.  If I did, then you don't get this game anyway, so who cares.
sq
sr. member
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hero member
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Men i stop with bitcoins, all coins are ponzi scheme.. bye bye.. and wolong.. if u read this, die with your mom and your family.
I know u visit sometimes Netherlands nearly Rotterdam and i know how you look like.

Come here and if i see you, i will kipnapp you and knock you down till u almost dead. still alive to let you suffer.
Mother fkcer
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so i've followed this coin and the drama around it and from everything that i've seen, this dev team is getting a bad rap. Sevoque has been here in this thread constantly having to defend himself because some of you people don't get it. he doesn't deserve to take the heat because wolong decided to fuck the coin. and personally if i were him i would stop responding to you idiots. wolong is solely responsible for the failure of this coin.

i went to bed making money and woke up losing it and it has nothing to do with sevoque selling some coins. the moment wolong started playing his games, is when the coin shit the bed.

lets review

1. coin launches perfectly

2. community starts to form and its fun and profitable

3. solid value, adaptive-n, KGW.

4 in steps wolong. he throws a hissy fit and gets sand in his vagina

5 coin plummets

6. coin dead.

anyone with fucking eyes can see the dev team did exactly what was asked of them. and did it fairly well. wolong broke the momentum and essentially alienated the people he needed to make the most happy. the investors.

as for the dev team. start working on a new coin. this coin has shit rubbed all over it and you are not gonna get the stink off.



PS: don't respond by posting an IRC chatlog. i've read them.


  


The real problem now lies with the devs keeping this thing alive; with their intention being to pull in some more suckers to buy their bags off them at a higher price and minimise their losses. It's quite obvious that this coins has no future, and there is currently no development taking place, so the only honest thing to do is start taking down pools, asking to be removed from exchanges and taking down this thread.

The fact is, the devs want to cash out, but they just want a higher price than it is currently.

sr. member
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I love this coin.

Any one sell me some mil of panda at 1 satoshi ?
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You guys trusted a bullshit irc/twitter pnd'r with your coin, you kinda deserve it, sorry if you lost money, but christ, do a little research.

+1

The same story keeps repeating. I was surprised there were so many investors with the huge premine.

The moral of the story: http://www.aesopfables.com/cgi/aesop1.cgi?4&TheScorpionandtheFrog
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
You guys trusted a bullshit irc/twitter pnd'r with your coin, you kinda deserve it, sorry if you lost money, but christ, do a little research.

+1

The same story keeps repeating. I was surprised there were so many investors with the huge premine.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
so i've followed this coin and the drama around it and from everything that i've seen, this dev team is getting a bad rap. Sevoque has been here in this thread constantly having to defend himself because some of you people don't get it. he doesn't deserve to take the heat because wolong decided to fuck the coin. and personally if i were him i would stop responding to you idiots. wolong is solely responsible for the failure of this coin.

i went to bed making money and woke up losing it and it has nothing to do with sevoque selling some coins. the moment wolong started playing his games, is when the coin shit the bed.

lets review

1. coin launches perfectly

2. community starts to form and its fun and profitable

3. solid value, adaptive-n, KGW.

4 in steps wolong. he throws a hissy fit and gets sand in his vagina

5 coin plummets

6. coin dead.

anyone with fucking eyes can see the dev team did exactly what was asked of them. and did it fairly well. wolong broke the momentum and essentially alienated the people he needed to make the most happy. the investors.

as for the dev team. start working on a new coin. this coin has shit rubbed all over it and you are not gonna get the stink off.



PS: don't respond by posting an IRC chatlog. i've read them.


  


You create a business venture with Kim Jong, and you yourself are a scammer.

Nice attempt at logic, though.
newbie
Activity: 17
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so i've followed this coin and the drama around it and from everything that i've seen, this dev team is getting a bad rap. Sevoque has been here in this thread constantly having to defend himself because some of you people don't get it. he doesn't deserve to take the heat because wolong decided to fuck the coin. and personally if i were him i would stop responding to you idiots. wolong is solely responsible for the failure of this coin.

i went to bed making money and woke up losing it and it has nothing to do with sevoque selling some coins. the moment wolong started playing his games, is when the coin shit the bed.

lets review

1. coin launches perfectly

2. community starts to form and its fun and profitable

3. solid value, adaptive-n, KGW.

4 in steps wolong. he throws a hissy fit and gets sand in his vagina

5 coin plummets

6. coin dead.

anyone with fucking eyes can see the dev team did exactly what was asked of them. and did it fairly well. wolong broke the momentum and essentially alienated the people he needed to make the most happy. the investors.

as for the dev team. start working on a new coin. this coin has shit rubbed all over it and you are not gonna get the stink off.



PS: don't respond by posting an IRC chatlog. i've read them.


  
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Except we have a 200+ page btctalk thread, developer support, and a massive community that doesn't give a shit about all the FUD you are spewing in your channels 24/7.

There I said it, 500 satoshis next tues. screen shot this post.
This statement in itself sounds like scam mate. How on earth do you justify reaching 500 satoshi? You are losing your (what is left off it) credibility with statements like this man.

Warlock or someone from the dev team can you answer this? How do you justify panda reaching 500 ffs? You sound like right scammers yourselves by making these statements.

It's simple. 

He'll put up a 500 satoshi 0.0001 btc buy wall on mintpal.  Then buy it back.  Wallah! Panda now worth 500 sat's!
legendary
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You guys trusted a bullshit irc/twitter pnd'r with your coin, you kinda deserve it, sorry if you lost money, but christ, do a little research.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
This shit is a broken record. They whine about scams, yet no one has been scammed except for the people who have mistakenly mined the wrong coin by their community posting fake PANDA pools here...



Jesus christ.  Take off your rose colored glasses for a second.

'No one has been scammed except for the people who have mistakenly mined the wrong coin by fake panda pools.'

Right.  So how about all these people who 'invested' their hard earned btc for hoards of this junk when it hit mintpal at the overinflated price of over 50 satoshis all the ways in upwards of 100 satoshis?  

Oh, I suppose they weren't scammed at all when they suddenly found out their holdings were worth about 1/5th of what they paid for them when they woke up one morning after this entire shit scheme was formally exposed in this thread.

Yeah.  Totally not scammed.  That's just a part of 'the business,' amirite?  COMPLETELY nothing wrong with their beloved chinese dictator dumping a few billion on the exchanges after fleeing from the crime scene, further bringing the value of their investment close to nil.

The only ones who won in all this were the devs and wolong.  Everyone else took it up the ass without the lube.

Good lord, the intelligence levels of some of the people on this forum.  It's amazing some of you guys even know how to find the power button on your toasters.
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Except we have a 200+ page btctalk thread, developer support, and a massive community that doesn't give a shit about all the FUD you are spewing in your channels 24/7.

There I said it, 500 satoshis next tues. screen shot this post.
This statement in itself sounds like scam mate. How on earth do you justify reaching 500 satoshi? You are losing your (what is left off it) credibility with statements like this man.

Warlock or someone from the dev team can you answer this? How do you justify panda reaching 500 ffs? You sound like right scammers yourselves by making these statements.
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Yo guys. It was 4am a couple hours ago for Sevoque. Meaning it's now 6 or 7am. He says he's gonna clean up the OP but instead he's arguing and trying to justify why pandacoin will rebound and succeed. What utter BS.
I think you are going a little too far there:

I'm personally open to any suggestions that in theory could work, but please know one thing,I PERSONALLY have little authority over what can actually happen given that it is Jacob and Artis who are the core devs and would need to agreee between themselves.

We are obviously distraught that all the hard work, time and effort we have put in was seemingly sabotaged in the window of a few hours and would love to find a way to move past it and regain the community trust.
Right there he's saying that he wants to find a way to fix things, which implies that he hasn't found a way yet, and he says that it's not up to him anyway. That's clearly not promising success. (I would agree that it was awfully self-centered, but that wasn't your criticism.)

OTOH, [-Warlock-] / JacobUX did promise back up to 500 satoshi. That wasn't Sevoque, though.

What I don't understand is this:
i had no idea of any of this [stuff that JacobUX said in IRC], and its a part of the reason i will be walking away from this.
So why is Sevoque still around? When will he walk away? What is the "this" that he will walk away from, if not the entire project?

I'm not seeing that much difference between  [-Warlock-] / JacobUX and Wolong, so why hasn't Sevoque bailed?

The other question is why do I care? I'm going to bed.
legendary
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i would say :
just stop all those arguments and bla bla bla ,
lets pick this up, trow in new life and get on with it , there will be always greedy people  Cheesy Wink

i am stil mining this coin and i believe if let say all drop the toughts of pre minted coins ( becouse of greediness ) en lets pick it up !

fork it and we all could benefit from all coins so just go on !!!   keep mining like i do and some day it will bring back those losses

so please stop blaming everyone and lets get to work, i believe pandacoin can stil be a nice coin to work with , even the people with not so good mining rigs like my self , i get some coins coming in not muts  but i am happy with it....


everything in this digital coin business is a risky thing, but please drop the greedyness i dont car if mate x got millions i have 3000.00 coins so what ??


every pennie i can get for my project is good and to the guy who stole those BTC i hope that you can explane that to your GOD wen you die,
i feel deep sorry for you and all those greedy people,

iam not a greedy man , and i am happy with that, accept your losses and lets go on ...........someday you will be rewarde for it .


i wish i had a lillte knowlegde for " repairing" this coin but with a bandage we can stil make it as the coin with a hard history we dealt with


so again stop blaming and lets go on ................ok ?

i am not a kid i am old and grey 55 years old and i am dutch so excuse my english a bit  Cheesy Wink


edit :  and dont forget my project becouse of that i am mining not even for my self !

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Yo guys. It was 4am a couple hours ago for Sevoque. Meaning it's now 6 or 7am. He says he's gonna clean up the OP but instead he's arguing and trying to justify why pandacoin will rebound and succeed. What utter BS.

Man that was an epic transfer of wealth.  Trendon Shavers-style.  Well done scammers.

This is the kind of crap that is going to cause alt coin markets to be heavily regulated.  Wolong calling everyone on twitter "greedy"...lol...pot meet kettle...what a jerk.

I don't see what's the problem with Wolong calling people greedy. Many of us are/were greedy and decided to mine and support pandacoin before it all fell apart. People's attitude towards the coin and devs took a complete 360. There was a lot of people warning that this was going to be trouble due to 3% premine. I'm one of those that let greed get to me, and I faced the consequences of losing 0.4 or so BTC. Hence why I said ~$300 in one of my previous posts once you factor in electricity. Ya it's not much compared to some of what you guys lost, but greed is greed.
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Man that was an epic transfer of wealth.  Trendon Shavers-style.  Well done scammers.

This is the kind of crap that is going to cause alt coin markets to be heavily regulated.  Wolong calling everyone on twitter "greedy"...lol...pot meet kettle...what a jerk.


why does anyone pay any attention to that scammer?  His first loyalty is to himself, he doesn't care who he throws under the bus & then turns around & cries 'woe-is-me'.  If he really cared about the people, this community he wouldn't have cashed in on "your backs".  I see a lot of hate in this forum for the devs but your buddy wolong burned you all.  I can't help but laugh that any of you would have trusted such a person, the second I found out he was any way involved with this coin I ran.  Let this be a lesson to you all, "if it sounds too good to be true it usually is".
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Man that was an epic transfer of wealth.  Trendon Shavers-style.  Well done scammers.

This is the kind of crap that is going to cause alt coin markets to be heavily regulated.  Wolong calling everyone on twitter "greedy"...lol...pot meet kettle...what a jerk.

Well said.

What the scammers don't realize is that when regulation does come and it eventually will without doubt after Gox goes belly up is that they are going to have to pay the piper, they have left so many digital footprints it will be easy for the authorities to track them down, some people are going to serve some serious jail time. Hope it was worth it, they better enjoy their ill gotten Bitcoins while they can.
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