PAPA ASIC NEED FUNDING PLEASE PARTICIPATE - page 6.

dropt

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Quote from: papamoi on November 28, 2013, 07:04:19 AM

Quote from: dropt on November 28, 2013, 06:53:33 AM

If you got (blatently) scammed by Ed Trice, how can we trust that these people aren't scamming you?

there is risk in life

i m adult and responsible and i m dealing with reputable company as britesemi and chipmotion is working with britesemi

i ve done my homework and willing to make happen this project (i m on it since april as you should know)

I know you've been after this for awhile.

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now do yourself your homework and decide

That is what I'm doing.

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everyone is not ed trice and if i would have been changing my idea of making investment because of ed trice i would be a total looser to act like this,don t you think?

Not necessarily.

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their website for your reference:

http://www.chipmotion.com/index.php?_m=frontpage&_a=index
http://www.britesemi.com/en/index

and smic is the fab

http://www.smics.com/eng/index.php

Now if you think that anyone of these 3 are able to scam us so please do not invest

Look at it from my view:

- I've seen people refuse to work with you in the past.
- I witnessed you get conned by a man selling dreams while people here tried to warn you.
- You posted no actual evidence in this thread that you have a prior arrangement with any of the parties listed.
- You have not proven your stake of of this adventure, nor explained what your role in the project is.
- You don't have any technical documentation to present, yet the design is complete and awaiting tape-out payment.

You want me to send you >=1.5 btc based on the information in the first post of your thread without having any of the details necessary to prove this is a thing. I don't think you're trying to scam me and I'm not saying I think any of the three involved parties are either.

You should delete this thread, re-write it properly and professionally address some of the issues above and you might have some interest.

CeeCee

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Quote from: vs3 on November 28, 2013, 08:16:37 PM

Either way - I'd be interested to give the PCB+drivers a shot.

open source pcb and drivers and i am in! otherwise i don't know what i should do with the chips.

vs3

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From my experience - it will be crucial for the better acceptance of this chip if there is a reference design by the time it gets into mass-production. Or even better several designs tailored for different purposes - low-power USB "starter" kit, mid-range "fun@home" stuff and "datacenter-grade" for hosting farms.

Sample/demo program exercising the chip will also be necessary - that will make mining software developers' life much much easier too.

Either way - I'd be interested to give the PCB+drivers a shot.

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Quote from: papamoi on November 28, 2013, 05:39:09 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on November 28, 2013, 05:25:01 PM

Quote from: papamoi on November 28, 2013, 08:03:55 AM

for people who are wondering about pcb costs and all

you can find some open source pcb made by forum s guys and you can estimate roughly that it ll be the same as the chip tech is roughly the same

as far as i know the maximum you would spend on the pcb would be the same as the chips costs meaning 1.5 btc for all your chips.

this would be adjust of course later on

I am a bit interested in this, but saying that all pcbs for 1400 chips will cost 1.5 btc seems very unreal to me. Ok i pay 1.5 btc for 1400 chips, but i think the pcbs will cost a lot more than that. burnin's cost was around 100 euro per board for Avalon chips. Considering that there were 20 chips per pcb that means i will need 70 boards that will cost me ~7000 euros. Let's drop the price a bit and make it 5000 euros, it's still more than 1.5 btc. With all the respect to your work, but it's simply very hard for someone to plan things ahead.

are u sure that it was his Costs price?as we intend to sell it at costs no margin for me

Why would he create boards at cost price for me? Maybe i didn't understand your post about pcbs. Are you saying that you will provide boards for chips for 1.5 btc or how do you think that it's possible to populate 1400 chips?

papamoi

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Quote from: RoadStress on November 28, 2013, 05:25:01 PM

Quote from: papamoi on November 28, 2013, 08:03:55 AM

for people who are wondering about pcb costs and all

you can find some open source pcb made by forum s guys and you can estimate roughly that it ll be the same as the chip tech is roughly the same

as far as i know the maximum you would spend on the pcb would be the same as the chips costs meaning 1.5 btc for all your chips.

this would be adjust of course later on

I am a bit interested in this, but saying that all pcbs for 1400 chips will cost 1.5 btc seems very unreal to me. Ok i pay 1.5 btc for 1400 chips, but i think the pcbs will cost a lot more than that. burnin's cost was around 100 euro per board for Avalon chips. Considering that there were 20 chips per pcb that means i will need 70 boards that will cost me ~7000 euros. Let's drop the price a bit and make it 5000 euros, it's still more than 1.5 btc. With all the respect to your work, but it's simply very hard for someone to plan things ahead.

are u sure that it was his Costs price?as we intend to sell it at costs no margin for me

RoadStress

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Quote from: papamoi on November 28, 2013, 08:03:55 AM

for people who are wondering about pcb costs and all

you can find some open source pcb made by forum s guys and you can estimate roughly that it ll be the same as the chip tech is roughly the same

as far as i know the maximum you would spend on the pcb would be the same as the chips costs meaning 1.5 btc for all your chips.

this would be adjust of course later on

I am a bit interested in this, but saying that all pcbs for 1400 chips will cost 1.5 btc seems very unreal to me. Ok i pay 1.5 btc for 1400 chips, but i think the pcbs will cost a lot more than that. burnin's cost was around 100 euro per board for Avalon chips. Considering that there were 20 chips per pcb that means i will need 70 boards that will cost me ~7000 euros. Let's drop the price a bit and make it 5000 euros, it's still more than 1.5 btc. With all the respect to your work, but it's simply very hard for someone to plan things ahead.

papamoi

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AS i said earlier the pcb team is,waiting like me the chips specs to start design and all So it s not an big issue.

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Quote from: Bossland on November 28, 2013, 03:38:19 PM

I do not think that this will be interesting for the masses, including me

most of us would say, now i have 1400 chips, what i do with them ?

Yep, if you could team up with a PCB team who could get these into usable PCB's, you would have a much better chance of raising the money.

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I do not think that this will be interesting for the masses, including me

most of us would say, now i have 1400 chips, what i do with them ?

papamoi

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for people who are wondering about pcb costs and all

you can find some open source pcb made by forum s guys and you can estimate roughly that it ll be the same as the chip tech is roughly the same

as far as i know the maximum you would spend on the pcb would be the same as the chips costs meaning 1.5 btc for all your chips.

this would be adjust of course later on

papamoi

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atg

i hear you but timing is crucial as i ve wasted lot of time and opportunities since april

so choice is yours

aTg

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Quote from: papamoi on November 28, 2013, 06:53:07 AM

Quote from: aTg on November 28, 2013, 06:29:51 AM

Quote from: papamoi on November 28, 2013, 05:54:54 AM

Quote from: aTg on November 28, 2013, 05:41:11 AM

Quote from: papamoi on November 28, 2013, 05:26:42 AM

Quote from: aTg on November 28, 2013, 05:21:10 AM

I am very interested in this but I want to know if we will get the design of the chip itself or just chips and manufactured.

you ll get the chips at cost price

this is the best i can do

i can also tell you that you ll get the privilege to get as much as chips as needed on the same price if you are participating in the round.

Then I'm not interested, it's not better than other manufacturers ASICs, what is needed in the community is releasing an ASIC design for us to compete current hardware manufacturers.
It would be just the design you shared with investors.

are you trying to say that you want the gds + mask for 1.5 btc?

No mask, because it is very expensive, but if the design SGII because it does not cost extra money to share it.

this can be discuss as far as i remeber someone on the forum was selling the gds only at 2000 btc 2/3 months ago

but it not the aim here

I myself opened a thread in this forum to raise the 2.000BTC, and later released the design for the community, and they called me scammer ...

The cost of your proposal by GH is about 0.0015 BTC is not a bad price, I follow the project, if you do not get to raise the funds, we can talk privately to finance it among ourselves.

papamoi

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Quote from: dropt on November 28, 2013, 06:53:33 AM

If you got (blatently) scammed by Ed Trice, how can we trust that these people aren't scamming you?

there is risk in life

i m adult and responsible and i m dealing with reputable company as britesemi and chipmotion is working with britesemi

i ve done my homework and willing to make happen this project (i m on it since april as you should know)

now do yourself your homework and decide

everyone is not ed trice and if i would have been changing my idea of making investment because of ed trice i would be a total looser to act like this,don t you think?

their website for your reference:

http://www.chipmotion.com/index.php?_m=frontpage&_a=index
http://www.britesemi.com/en/index

and smic is the fab

http://www.smics.com/eng/index.php

Now if you think that anyone of these 3 are able to scam us so please do not invest

dropt

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If you got (blatently) scammed by Ed Trice, how can we trust that these people aren't scamming you?

papamoi

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Quote from: aTg on November 28, 2013, 06:29:51 AM

Quote from: papamoi on November 28, 2013, 05:54:54 AM

Quote from: aTg on November 28, 2013, 05:41:11 AM

Quote from: papamoi on November 28, 2013, 05:26:42 AM

Quote from: aTg on November 28, 2013, 05:21:10 AM

I am very interested in this but I want to know if we will get the design of the chip itself or just chips and manufactured.

you ll get the chips at cost price

this is the best i can do

i can also tell you that you ll get the privilege to get as much as chips as needed on the same price if you are participating in the round.

Then I'm not interested, it's not better than other manufacturers ASICs, what is needed in the community is releasing an ASIC design for us to compete current hardware manufacturers.
It would be just the design you shared with investors.

are you trying to say that you want the gds + mask for 1.5 btc?

No mask, because it is very expensive, but if the design SGII because it does not cost extra money to share it.

this can be discuss as far as i remember someone on the forum was selling the gds only at 2000 btc 2/3 months ago

but it s not the aim here

aTg

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Quote from: papamoi on November 28, 2013, 05:54:54 AM

Quote from: aTg on November 28, 2013, 05:41:11 AM

Quote from: papamoi on November 28, 2013, 05:26:42 AM

Quote from: aTg on November 28, 2013, 05:21:10 AM

I am very interested in this but I want to know if we will get the design of the chip itself or just chips and manufactured.

you ll get the chips at cost price

this is the best i can do

i can also tell you that you ll get the privilege to get as much as chips as needed on the same price if you are participating in the round.

Then I'm not interested, it's not better than other manufacturers ASICs, what is needed in the community is releasing an ASIC design for us to compete current hardware manufacturers.
It would be just the design you shared with investors.

are you trying to say that you want the gds + mask for 1.5 btc?

No mask, because it is very expensive, but if the design SGII because it does not cost extra money to share it.

papamoi

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if we don t reach this amount in 2 weeks

all sent amount will be refunded

So it s important to get it done before

thanks

papamoi

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Quote from: aTg on November 28, 2013, 05:41:11 AM

Quote from: papamoi on November 28, 2013, 05:26:42 AM

Quote from: aTg on November 28, 2013, 05:21:10 AM

I am very interested in this but I want to know if we will get the design of the chip itself or just chips and manufactured.

you ll get the chips at cost price

this is the best i can do

i can also tell you that you ll get the privilege to get as much as chips as needed on the same price if you are participating in the round.

Then I'm not interested, it's not better than other manufacturers ASICs, what is needed in the community is releasing an ASIC design for us to compete current hardware manufacturers.
It would be just the design you shared with investors.

are you trying to say that you want the gds + mask for 1.5 btc?

papamoi

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Quote from: aTg on November 28, 2013, 05:41:11 AM

Quote from: papamoi on November 28, 2013, 05:26:42 AM

Quote from: aTg on November 28, 2013, 05:21:10 AM

I am very interested in this but I want to know if we will get the design of the chip itself or just chips and manufactured.

you ll get the chips at cost price

this is the best i can do

i can also tell you that you ll get the privilege to get as much as chips as needed on the same price if you are participating in the round.

Then I'm not interested, it's not better than other manufacturers ASICs, what is needed in the community is releasing an ASIC design for us to compete current hardware manufacturers.
It would be just the design you shared with investors.

You should understand that noone is selling his chip at cost price

we are

this is the main difference

aTg

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Quote from: papamoi on November 28, 2013, 05:26:42 AM

Quote from: aTg on November 28, 2013, 05:21:10 AM

I am very interested in this but I want to know if we will get the design of the chip itself or just chips and manufactured.

you ll get the chips at cost price

this is the best i can do

i can also tell you that you ll get the privilege to get as much as chips as needed on the same price if you are participating in the round.

Then I'm not interested, it's not better than other manufacturers ASICs, what is needed in the community is releasing an ASIC design for us to compete current hardware manufacturers.
It would be just the design you shared with investors.

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