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Topic: ✅ Paradice.in | 🍀 Provably Fair 🎲 | Rain☔| 30 sec Faucet | 1% House Edge 💰| - page 34. (Read 13289 times)

legendary
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Going back to this site, you still have no online stats shown? I am just curious how many people are playing now as I've seen this site started. Actually, I have some satoshis sitting there owed to their faucet and won some. Also, is your PRDC only exchangeable within your casino or is it available in exchanges?

Online stats is not that important imho, do you think that it is a must feature of a gambling site? Afaik there are still many sites without online users stats. Coming up to PRDC coin, is there even a way to exchange it on the site? I cant find any feature to exchange it, it is also not a withdrawable coin so it is clear that you wont find any exchanges to convert PRDC.
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★Bitvest.io★ Play Plinko or Invest!
Going back to this site, you still have no online stats shown? I am just curious how many people are playing now as I've seen this site started. Actually, I have some satoshis sitting there owed to their faucet and won some. Also, is your PRDC only exchangeable within your casino or is it available in exchanges?
hero member
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Im not visit the website and even register but I want to know if the faucet payout is good? Because a lot of gambling sites offers a faucet but the rate is very low so still very useless and I want to know the difference that you offer to the player that want to use faucet. It's good to see also that the withdrawal is instant and even the deposit address that players need to takes time to wait before to wait because there is a time confirmation is really takes long.

You need to understand that the purpose of a faucet is just to try out to site before you make a deposit to make sure its up to your liking. Its not a way how to earn a living by claiming a faucet and hoping to catch a 9900x winner and do a min withdraw. This is why most gambling sites don't have a faucet due to abuse and the ones that do they offer very little. Basically fractions of a penny. Even if you by some miracle make enough to make a min withdraw, most will just deny the withdraw.


You guys look like you are finding gamblers from out of nowhere, I mean look at the leaderboard and look at the topic, normally bitcointalk topics of casinos that has a lot less gamblers on their competitions have hundreds of pages, they have people talking about it like crazy and constantly discussing something about the casino, not on page 7 but on page 107 most of the time and they are the ones who do not have people gambling as much as people gamble on your website, the ones that gamble as much as you have over 200+ pages.

I am pretty sure it is outside of bitcointalk but would you care to tell us where you find these gamblers? Maybe it could be a secret and you do not want to giveaway your source but this is just a huge accomplishment that I didn't want it going to waste without anybody seeing it.


Besides the first 3 gamblers, the rest all had very little roll-over. Keep in mind that you don't need to do much  work to get a roll over of 1 BTC. Most likely they are adveritsing somewhere else like Reddit or some other websites. What gives this away is that they have an affiliate program , most of those usually get tons of traffic from "bitcoin gambling review" sites which want to reap the affiliate incomes.

@adaseb you’re absolutely correct as faucets are to be used to only test the site, and I’m glad that many sites now don’t have faucets anymore as people only join these sites to abuse them and these users add no value to the site. @justdimin it’s not difficult to find their traffic source as there’s a tool that’ll show you all the details you need to find their traffic sources, but then again those details are only useful if you’re into seo otherwise you won’t be able to use them.
sr. member
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unibtc - Bitsler.com Developer
A few critical points...

According to your Provably Fair Explanation



It says you use Combination = Server Seed + Client Seed + Nonce and Hash = SHA512 (Combination)


This formula/statement is false and misleading.

Given the values:
Code:
const ServerSeed = "c678cae375a07e4456a5532a19e5b1311d3434795f5bcdf50e7f4f27ae660d5d"
const ClientSeed = "client"
const Nonce = 0;

According to your Verification page


1. The Combination Value is wrong. It shows "clientc678cae375a07e4456a5532a19e5b1311d3434795f5bcdf50e7f4f27ae660d5d0" but on your explanation above it should be "c678cae375a07e4456a5532a19e5b1311d3434795f5bcdf50e7f4f27ae660d5dclient0" - (this is still wrong btw, read below)

2. The SHA512 value shows "8c0bd8c9ad2261ccaf0650de9135088484085d328293a42ce9a69e734f93ded96ae3a6f6e31c908 3a59e97650d97a0f3eda8e71d0210ef44f9132214ccfb9531" which is also wrong if we follow the given formula above.
Even if we hash either "clientc678cae375a07e4456a5532a19e5b1311d3434795f5bcdf50e7f4f27ae660d5d0" or ""c678cae375a07e4456a5532a19e5b1311d3434795f5bcdf50e7f4f27ae660d5dclient0" both will not result to the SHA512 that is being shown (you can test it here https://www.convertstring.com/Hash/SHA512)

Question is: Where did that SHA512 result come from? Why is the formula given not resulting in the correct values?

The answer is: You actually don't use SHA512. But instead, you are use HMAC-SHA512. HMAC-SHA512 accepts a message and a secret value. And in site's case, the message is constructed like "ClientSeed:Nonce" (the : is included), and the ServerSeed acts as the secret value.

There's a big difference between the two, SHA512 and HMAC-SHA512. The correct formula is:
Code:
// hmac512(message, secret)
hmac512( ClientSeed + ":" + Nonce, ServerSeed )

If you expect players to just trust your verifier, you'd be mistaken and this could lead to many concerns. 
Here is a quick verifier that would explain the verification properly. https://codepen.io/uniibu/full/OJyyNgL

Cheers!
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https://paradice.in/?c=bitcointalk

good referral program for friends who give big and real bonuses, the more bets, the greater the commission, starts working for profit and can play, I like gambling like this

Thank you!

We constancy improve our project, and strive for perfection.

Feel welcome to give us a visit and check out the interface Smiley

sr. member
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Uhuh. That said, if I have 1 BTC wagered the 0.1% commission would be 0.01 BTC, if my math is correct. Interesting. Cheesy

Yep. The affiliate managers receive a good compensation from their referrals, and we provide higher referral percentage to partners who provide high amount of referrals.
good referral program for friends who give big and real bonuses, the more bets, the greater the commission, starts working for profit and can play, I like gambling like this
full member
Activity: 865
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https://paradice.in/?c=bitcointalk

Uhuh. That said, if I have 1 BTC wagered the 0.1% commission would be 0.01 BTC, if my math is correct. Interesting. Cheesy

Yep. The affiliate managers receive a good compensation from their referrals, and we provide higher referral percentage to partners who provide high amount of referrals.
asu
legendary
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Usually the commision reffers to a % of the house edge , so with a 1 % house edge  , the 10 % refferal commision actually means 0.1 % of the total bet.

Hope that helps Smiley.

Uhuh. That said, if I have 1 BTC wagered the 0.1% commission would be 0.01 BTC, if my math is correct. Interesting. Cheesy
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In other words you can use the faucet but the profit that you won by using the faucet isn't withdrawable.

Out of curiosity, how was the affiliate program works? It says 10% commission every bets by the users under your referral.

i.e: 0.001 bet 0.0001 commision? I never had interest in referral that's why I want to know how it works. Cheesy

Usually the commision reffers to a % of the house edge , so with a 1 % house edge  , the 10 % refferal commision actually means 0.1 % of the total bet.

Hope that helps Smiley.
asu
legendary
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Even if you by some miracle make enough to make a min withdraw, most will just deny the withdraw.

In other words you can use the faucet but the profit that you won by using the faucet isn't withdrawable.

Out of curiosity, how was the affiliate program works? It says 10% commission every bets by the users under your referral.

i.e: 0.001 bet 0.0001 commision? I never had interest in referral that's why I want to know how it works. Cheesy
legendary
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Im not visit the website and even register but I want to know if the faucet payout is good? Because a lot of gambling sites offers a faucet but the rate is very low so still very useless and I want to know the difference that you offer to the player that want to use faucet. It's good to see also that the withdrawal is instant and even the deposit address that players need to takes time to wait before to wait because there is a time confirmation is really takes long.

You need to understand that the purpose of a faucet is just to try out to site before you make a deposit to make sure its up to your liking. Its not a way how to earn a living by claiming a faucet and hoping to catch a 9900x winner and do a min withdraw. This is why most gambling sites don't have a faucet due to abuse and the ones that do they offer very little. Basically fractions of a penny. Even if you by some miracle make enough to make a min withdraw, most will just deny the withdraw.


You guys look like you are finding gamblers from out of nowhere, I mean look at the leaderboard and look at the topic, normally bitcointalk topics of casinos that has a lot less gamblers on their competitions have hundreds of pages, they have people talking about it like crazy and constantly discussing something about the casino, not on page 7 but on page 107 most of the time and they are the ones who do not have people gambling as much as people gamble on your website, the ones that gamble as much as you have over 200+ pages.

I am pretty sure it is outside of bitcointalk but would you care to tell us where you find these gamblers? Maybe it could be a secret and you do not want to giveaway your source but this is just a huge accomplishment that I didn't want it going to waste without anybody seeing it.


Besides the first 3 gamblers, the rest all had very little roll-over. Keep in mind that you don't need to do much  work to get a roll over of 1 BTC. Most likely they are adveritsing somewhere else like Reddit or some other websites. What gives this away is that they have an affiliate program , most of those usually get tons of traffic from "bitcoin gambling review" sites which want to reap the affiliate incomes.
hero member
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www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games
You guys look like you are finding gamblers from out of nowhere, I mean look at the leaderboard and look at the topic, normally bitcointalk topics of casinos that has a lot less gamblers on their competitions have hundreds of pages, they have people talking about it like crazy and constantly discussing something about the casino, not on page 7 but on page 107 most of the time and they are the ones who do not have people gambling as much as people gamble on your website, the ones that gamble as much as you have over 200+ pages.

I am pretty sure it is outside of bitcointalk but would you care to tell us where you find these gamblers? Maybe it could be a secret and you do not want to giveaway your source but this is just a huge accomplishment that I didn't want it going to waste without anybody seeing it.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1312
Im not visit the website and even register but I want to know if the faucet payout is good? Because a lot of gambling sites offers a faucet but the rate is very low so still very useless and I want to know the difference that you offer to the player that want to use faucet. It's good to see also that the withdrawal is instant and even the deposit address that players need to takes time to wait before to wait because there is a time confirmation is really takes long.

How much do you expect from a faucet? Almost all gambling sites gives low amount but it can be used to try the game for free so how can you say that faucet is useless because of the low amount? Dont even hope too much from a faucet, faucet is not designed for players to make money. If you want a big amount of faucet then you should find a site that has a levelling faucet system but of course you need to wager a lot of money in order to make your faucet amount increased.
hero member
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Im not visit the website and even register but I want to know if the faucet payout is good? Because a lot of gambling sites offers a faucet but the rate is very low so still very useless and I want to know the difference that you offer to the player that want to use faucet. It's good to see also that the withdrawal is instant and even the deposit address that players need to takes time to wait before to wait because there is a time confirmation is really takes long.
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https://paradice.in/?c=bitcointalk
Congratulations to winners of the Regatta!

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https://paradice.in/?c=bitcointalk
The new regatta wagering contest have started!
Prize = 0.03 BTC!


Another regatta with the same rules have just started!

Ends in 2 days, 4 hours and 20 minutes!

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Regatta is a wagering contest which rewards the highest bidders from a regular prize pool.

Information about current and upcoming regattas can be found on our news channel or by clicking on the “Regatta” button, below the betting interface.

Each regatta has a prize pool which is awarded to players according to their place in the leaderboard. The higher your place -- the higher your share of the prize.

To improve your position in the leaderboard place as many bets as possible during the contest.

Before withdrawing the won funds, it is necessary to make a series of bets for total winnings with a chance of no more than 50%.
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https://paradice.in/?c=bitcointalk
The website have been updated!

New features:

Added FAQ to cover all the popular questions;
Improved the currencies UI;
Reworked main menu;
Share a bet - now you can share your bet information in the chat, not just by a link but in a form that is embedded in the chat;
Added new coin -- Paradice Coin. At the moment it's mainly used for testing purposes, later you will be able to use it to pay for transaction fees and in various contests;
Improved user information and statistics interface;
Other UI improvements;
Fixed some typos.


Visit us and check out the new UI  Cool
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https://paradice.in/?c=bitcointalk
The new regatta wagering contest have started!
Prize = 0.03 BTC!

starts: Now
ends: UTC Thursday 11AM

full member
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https://paradice.in/?c=bitcointalk
Start of the new FLASH regatta

Today 10AM UTC!

Contest will last just 3 hours!

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Hello dear friends!

We would like to remind you that our 0.5% house edge promo will last only until March 1st, so if you want to get benefits of 0.5% house edge -- better hurry and play while it's still available Grin

Cheers! And good luck on your bets  Smiley

So what percentage is your house edge now? I have seen this site started. By the way, where can we see the the number of online users? And I still have some few satoshis because of the faucet and now it's gone. But it's ok, it doesn't matter on my end, I just wanted to experience the difference of this dice site to others.


Hi Twinkledoe!

The House Edge is now 1%
We don't have a number of online users displayed, but you can see bets being placed live on the main page.
The main differences is that we offer full transparency on each bet, customizable seeds, automatic withdrawals and deposits, rain and tip system and much more Smiley

Feel welcome to visit us!

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Is there any API document of Paradice.in?

We would like to integrate paradice.in into our dice bot:

MyDiceBot

https://mydicebot.com

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mydicebot-ultimate-bitcoindogecoin-dice-bot-bet-more-earn-more-5057661

Hi mydicebot!

The Paradice uses GraphQL for API, so the documentation for GraphQL should work.
We would really appreciate if you will add our game to your software, and will be happy to help. Just send us a message in PM if you will require any involvement from our side. Thank you.



Cool, I will take a look of the API https://api.paradice.in
Any question, I will let your know.
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