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Roboabhishek

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Quote from: LuanX3 on May 04, 2017, 06:07:43 AM

Quote from: Lone Shark on May 04, 2017, 06:02:51 AM

Quote from: Roboabhishek on May 04, 2017, 05:21:06 AM

Loneskark as I can see you didn't lost 0.0005 4 times.

If was just a visual bug actually you won those bets.
It's a CloudFlare bug I have seen it on primedice also.

Plus there's something wrong with blockchain atm.

How can you say it was a visual bug when I actually lost 0.002 because of the four straight lost bets which actually won. The owner even admits there was something wrong here by sending me back the 0.002 lost via a tip.

Just to reiterate, it was GONE from my balance because the system saw it as a lost.

I agree, how can you say that it was visual when his balance was deducted? Isn't that called a loss? Though from what he showed, the game was a win but paradice called it a loss and deducted the balance. In primedice, was there a balance deduction there too when the CloudFlare bug happened?

Well, I didn't know that you lost the BTC in those bets.
I said that based on the admin answer above Cloudflare bug.
Maybe it's true that Cloudflare bug as I said I faced it on another gambling website that uses Cloudflare once.

d0flaming0

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Quote from: KenR on May 04, 2017, 05:26:43 AM

Site is fairly new and astonished to see the number of bugs and cheating tricks encountered by the users.Taking fees out of promised transaction fees is the worst game played.You literally want to just rip the players off.Why even run a business when all you intend to do is scam users ? Stop playing here pals.

As far as i can see here there are so many bug issues regarding those fees or whatsoever. As i remember before when i was totally addicted playing at these site, i never encounter such cheating tricks you said, and for my concern, that would lead till players become bankrupt, this also shows that a player will lose rather than win.

Correct me if I'm wrong but i was only concern by the players, and to think that i hav played in this site before, this could also lower your popularity and players.

LuanX3

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Quote from: Lone Shark on May 04, 2017, 06:02:51 AM

Quote from: Roboabhishek on May 04, 2017, 05:21:06 AM

Loneskark as I can see you didn't lost 0.0005 4 times.

If was just a visual bug actually you won those bets.
It's a CloudFlare bug I have seen it on primedice also.

Plus there's something wrong with blockchain atm.

How can you say it was a visual bug when I actually lost 0.002 because of the four straight lost bets which actually won. The owner even admits there was something wrong here by sending me back the 0.002 lost via a tip.

Just to reiterate, it was GONE from my balance because the system saw it as a lost.

I agree, how can you say that it was visual when his balance was deducted? Isn't that called a loss? Though from what he showed, the game was a win but paradice called it a loss and deducted the balance. In primedice, was there a balance deduction there too when the CloudFlare bug happened?

DiceNDice

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Quote from: ParaDice.io on May 04, 2017, 12:31:43 AM

Quote from: flippy on May 04, 2017, 12:23:39 AM

Lone Shark: I've noticed similar issues to this on some other modified Coindice-based sites, which seem to be caused by the site's house edge being changed mid-play to a drastically high edge - when the edge goes back to normal, the page displays the target roll as the current one, not the one at the time of the bet. The changed edge itself I believe is either due to a bug in the site or caused accidentally by someone working on the site at the time, and is not an intentional scam - however, I think the admin here is somewhat incompetent and it's irresponsible of him to run a site of this nature. I strongly advise everyone not to play here until the admin refunds you and fixes this issue and the others mentioned before.

Yes it is true, he was working on faster bets. We are really sorry for any inconvenience

This is wrong!

"he was working on faster bets" this is impossible.
I explain it because i'm owner dice site in past.. i know this script and how it works. Your words is bullshit.

cheater and scammer!

Thanks!

Lone Shark

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Quote from: Roboabhishek on May 04, 2017, 05:21:06 AM

Loneskark as I can see you didn't lost 0.0005 4 times.

If was just a visual bug actually you won those bets.
It's a CloudFlare bug I have seen it on primedice also.

Plus there's something wrong with blockchain atm.

How can you say it was a visual bug when I actually lost 0.002 because of the four straight lost bets which actually won. The owner even admits there was something wrong here by sending me back the 0.002 lost via a tip.

Just to reiterate, it was GONE from my balance because the system saw it as a lost.

KenR

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「きみはこれ&#

Site is fairly new and astonished to see the number of bugs and cheating tricks encountered by the users.Taking fees out of promised transaction fees is the worst game played.You literally want to just rip the players off.Why even run a business when all you intend to do is scam users ? Stop playing here pals.

Roboabhishek

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Loneskark as I can see you didn't lost 0.0005 4 times.

If was just a visual bug actually you won those bets.
It's a CloudFlare bug I have seen it on primedice also.

Plus there's something wrong with blockchain atm.

Lone Shark

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Quote from: Slark on May 04, 2017, 04:01:45 AM

Quote from: Lone Shark on May 04, 2017, 03:50:16 AM

Edit: In retrospect, now that I reviewed the screenshot I posted, I see that they really did chance the house edge mid game when I was playing! I know this personally since I was trying to get their highest chances which was set at 97.05 when I started rolling! Oh come on, that's cheating right there. Without warning they changed it.

I understand completely how you feel there. I've been there too. But what they do is technically not cheating.
They said that they use variable house edge, and they have right to manipulate HE within the range they chose.
It is stupid, I know and questionable practice. But that is their rule. That is why it is better to find other Dice service with clear and more user friendly rules.

Variable house edge means it varies depending on the bet you place, it doesn't mean they can just change it while you are playing. When I started playing, I placed 0.0005BTC bets which were 1% house edge. Now when I checked it, it changed to about 1.2% HE. Which the owner has already admitted to me via chat. That is WRONG. I don't see anything right about it. As a user/gambler, we have the right to be informed of this. Since this really affects the game. I would not have played anymore if I knew the HE will go up!

coin.trader

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I took defence of this casino, but now I'm just waiting for proofs. Let's see what they will answer now

Slark

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Quote from: Lone Shark on May 04, 2017, 03:50:16 AM

Edit: In retrospect, now that I reviewed the screenshot I posted, I see that they really did chance the house edge mid game when I was playing! I know this personally since I was trying to get their highest chances which was set at 97.05 when I started rolling! Oh come on, that's cheating right there. Without warning they changed it.

I understand completely how you feel there. I've been there too. But what they do is technically not cheating.
They said that they use variable house edge, and they have right to manipulate HE within the range they chose.
It is stupid, I know and questionable practice. But that is their rule. That is why it is better to find other Dice service with clear and more user friendly rules.

DiceNDice

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Quote from: Lone Shark on May 03, 2017, 11:21:03 PM

Ok, what the hell is this?!

Target is <95.09 and I rolled 63.39 and I lost?!
Target is <95.09 and I rolled 31.06 and I lost?!
Target is <95.09 and I rolled 28.35 and I lost?!
Target is <95.09 and I rolled 20.75 and I lost?!

Are you kidding me?

Because He is cheater!!!

FAKE SEED!

You catch him!!!

CONGRATS!!!

Read details here:

Quote from: MafiaCoin on April 26, 2017, 03:37:43 AM

Quote from: adaseb on April 26, 2017, 02:14:44 AM

Quote from: ccc222 on April 25, 2017, 10:39:24 PM

I cant believe no one has seen this before. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18747362 Roll numbers are in the server seed lmao

I don't understand. You only have the actual Unhashed Server Seed after you make the bet. So they just add that roll to the end of the Seed.

First you have the Server Seed: 5KTV..................MWQWO which is hashed into SHA256 which is E7A5B70...........E3262

After you roll, it shows you the 5KTV.... seed and they just put your roll into the seed spot so its easier to see if you are making the calculation yourself.

Yes he manipulate roll

OMG!!!

we catch him.

fake seed!!!

sha256(cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339388) = 5fd2ddf0535d8d60cb3d6f19f9a7eec8cf8211fa2ea75e902a730b5c1f7c6a91

Last Bet:

Server Seed sha256:

5fd2ddf0535d8d60cb3d6f19f9a7eec8cf8211fa2ea75e902a730b5c1f7c6a91

Server Seed:

cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339388

He manipulate this digit..
cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339388
and made fake seed!!!

He use xx.xx digit only

if cange last digit result is fake!!!

sha256(cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339381)=28bb1a8cbb6d84fa150b1f0582aab210ff02bf374886f3a7c1eac539abc4726f

This is not provably fair game!

DiceNDice

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Activity: 140

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my feedback:
1. the site is not good
2. good auto bet (they have complete setting)
3. faucet is very low
4. bets are slow
5. poor graphics and old school design
6. fee is very high
7. many bugs
8. most users not paying:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18811322
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18764834

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/paradiceio-scam-not-paying-1877660

username on paradice: DiceNDice
btc address: 1AGLxfFRr9ddJCXbrJHpU5LhZNFsBvSAs1

not recomended this dice game.

Lone Shark

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Quote from: Slark on May 04, 2017, 03:45:23 AM

Quote from: Lone Shark on May 04, 2017, 03:16:20 AM

Also it looks like paradice changed their house edge. Before when I was betting at 1.02 multiplier the chances wer at 97.05. Look at it now. chances is only 95.09.

Come on, you guys are doing something here and it doesn't look legit at all.

In opening post you can read that ParaDice is using variable house edge, but they never said how high is that HE.

So are you sure that is not a part of their Variable House Edge system (whatever that is)?

If the House Edge is higher than 1% then there is literally no incentive to use ParaDice anyway.

I checked their house edge, it was 1% when I played. I never play on a casino higher than 1%. That is why when you put on the lowest multiplier (which is 1.02) you should be getting 97.05 chance to win. Which is now different after this incident.

Now, the chances of winning when you set your multiplier to 1.02, the chances are now 95.09 which is different from before when I started playing.

Edit: In retrospect, now that I reviewed the screenshot I posted, I see that they really did chance the house edge mid game when I was playing! I know this personally since I was trying to get their highest chances which was set at 97.05 when I started rolling! Oh come on, that's cheating right there. Without warning they changed it.

LastKiss

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SOL.BIOKRIPT.COM

Quote from: Slark on May 04, 2017, 03:45:23 AM

Quote from: Lone Shark on May 04, 2017, 03:16:20 AM

Also it looks like paradice changed their house edge. Before when I was betting at 1.02 multiplier the chances wer at 97.05. Look at it now. chances is only 95.09.

Come on, you guys are doing something here and it doesn't look legit at all.

In opening post you can read that ParaDice is using variable house edge, but they never said how high is that HE.

So are you sure that is not a part of their Variable House Edge system (whatever that is)?

If the House Edge is higher than 1% then there is literally no incentive to use ParaDice anyway.

on the site it said "0.5% up to 3% House Edge on low amount bets". wondering how much low bet it is.

LastKiss

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Quote from: Lone Shark on May 04, 2017, 03:16:20 AM

Quote from: ParaDice.io on May 04, 2017, 02:27:34 AM

Quote from: adaseb on May 04, 2017, 02:11:38 AM

Quote from: ParaDice.io on May 04, 2017, 12:31:43 AM

Quote from: flippy on May 04, 2017, 12:23:39 AM

~snip~

Yes it is true, he was working on faster bets. We are really sorry for any inconvenience

In my opinion and for the sake of your sites success you really need to take it offline and fix all these bugs before you start getting some RED TRUST.

I am not aware of this issue on Coindice type betting terminals but if that is the case you really need to have it fixed before more people start complaining.

It was a 5 minutes bug, and it was only visual. Now if you check it out, auto-bet is faster and there are changes at withdraw fee.

I also tipped loanshark a few bitcoins.

Lacker

Wow, should I be grateful to 0.002? That is what I actually lost because of your own site!

I lost 0.0005 x 4 = 0.002BTC. Thanks for paying back what you cheated owe me. :/

Also it looks like paradice changed their house edge. Before when I was betting at 1.02 multiplier the chances wer at 97.05. Look at it now. chances is only 95.09.

Come on, you guys are doing something here and it doesn't look legit at all.

looks like Paradice should have maintenance for their website and give amount of bitcoin error that Loneshark got, it should be 0.00005 x 4 = 0.002 + 0.00067100 = 0.00267100 and cut because Loneshark win once so the final amount is 0.00230850 BTC ( +500 sat if you want to take it

).
before you said you have loss some of your bitcoins it's mean just few of them remains, and when i saw your bet history more like you played it manually.

also for Paradice mod should have shutdown their website when go some fix or updated just like adaseb said.

Hope this issued will solved. Good luck everyone

DiceNDice

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Quote from: Lone Shark on May 03, 2017, 08:47:34 PM

Quote from: ParaDice.io on May 03, 2017, 08:45:20 PM

This is because the actual setting for Fee is set to "low" , in future we will use "mid" wich is 0.000325 by default. (If im correct)

Should be fixed with next update.

Good Luck, Casimir.

I just hope it does go through as the fees are quite low and it may take days to even confirm it.

with low fee may be happen not confirme payment forever

Slark

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Quote from: Lone Shark on May 04, 2017, 03:16:20 AM

Also it looks like paradice changed their house edge. Before when I was betting at 1.02 multiplier the chances wer at 97.05. Look at it now. chances is only 95.09.

Come on, you guys are doing something here and it doesn't look legit at all.

In opening post you can read that ParaDice is using variable house edge, but they never said how high is that HE.

So are you sure that is not a part of their Variable House Edge system (whatever that is)?

If the House Edge is higher than 1% then there is literally no incentive to use ParaDice anyway.

Lone Shark

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Quote from: ParaDice.io on May 04, 2017, 02:27:34 AM

Quote from: adaseb on May 04, 2017, 02:11:38 AM

Quote from: ParaDice.io on May 04, 2017, 12:31:43 AM

Quote from: flippy on May 04, 2017, 12:23:39 AM

Lone Shark: I've noticed similar issues to this on some other modified Coindice-based sites, which seem to be caused by the site's house edge being changed mid-play to a drastically high edge - when the edge goes back to normal, the page displays the target roll as the current one, not the one at the time of the bet. The changed edge itself I believe is either due to a bug in the site or caused accidentally by someone working on the site at the time, and is not an intentional scam - however, I think the admin here is somewhat incompetent and it's irresponsible of him to run a site of this nature. I strongly advise everyone not to play here until the admin refunds you and fixes this issue and the others mentioned before.

Yes it is true, he was working on faster bets. We are really sorry for any inconvenience

In my opinion and for the sake of your sites success you really need to take it offline and fix all these bugs before you start getting some RED TRUST.

I am not aware of this issue on Coindice type betting terminals but if that is the case you really need to have it fixed before more people start complaining.

It was a 5 minutes bug, and it was only visual. Now if you check it out, auto-bet is faster and there are changes at withdraw fee.

I also tipped loanshark a few bitcoins.

Lacker

Wow, should I be grateful to 0.002? That is what I actually lost because of your own site!

I lost 0.0005 x 4 = 0.002BTC. Thanks for paying back what you cheated owe me. :/

Also it looks like paradice changed their house edge. Before when I was betting at 1.02 multiplier the chances wer at 97.05. Look at it now. chances is only 95.09.

Come on, you guys are doing something here and it doesn't look legit at all.

ParaDice.io

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Quote from: adaseb on May 04, 2017, 02:11:38 AM

Quote from: ParaDice.io on May 04, 2017, 12:31:43 AM

Quote from: flippy on May 04, 2017, 12:23:39 AM

Lone Shark: I've noticed similar issues to this on some other modified Coindice-based sites, which seem to be caused by the site's house edge being changed mid-play to a drastically high edge - when the edge goes back to normal, the page displays the target roll as the current one, not the one at the time of the bet. The changed edge itself I believe is either due to a bug in the site or caused accidentally by someone working on the site at the time, and is not an intentional scam - however, I think the admin here is somewhat incompetent and it's irresponsible of him to run a site of this nature. I strongly advise everyone not to play here until the admin refunds you and fixes this issue and the others mentioned before.

Yes it is true, he was working on faster bets. We are really sorry for any inconvenience

In my opinion and for the sake of your sites success you really need to take it offline and fix all these bugs before you start getting some RED TRUST.

I am not aware of this issue on Coindice type betting terminals but if that is the case you really need to have it fixed before more people start complaining.

It was a 5 minutes bug, and it was only visual. Now if you check it out, auto-bet is faster and there are changes at withdraw fee.

I also tipped loanshark a few bitcoins.

Lacker

adaseb

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Quote from: ParaDice.io on May 04, 2017, 12:31:43 AM

Quote from: flippy on May 04, 2017, 12:23:39 AM

Lone Shark: I've noticed similar issues to this on some other modified Coindice-based sites, which seem to be caused by the site's house edge being changed mid-play to a drastically high edge - when the edge goes back to normal, the page displays the target roll as the current one, not the one at the time of the bet. The changed edge itself I believe is either due to a bug in the site or caused accidentally by someone working on the site at the time, and is not an intentional scam - however, I think the admin here is somewhat incompetent and it's irresponsible of him to run a site of this nature. I strongly advise everyone not to play here until the admin refunds you and fixes this issue and the others mentioned before.

Yes it is true, he was working on faster bets. We are really sorry for any inconvenience

In my opinion and for the sake of your sites success you really need to take it offline and fix all these bugs before you start getting some RED TRUST.

I am not aware of this issue on Coindice type betting terminals but if that is the case you really need to have it fixed before more people start complaining.

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