~PayPal-Trader~ is a scammer. Do NOT deal with him. - page 5.

sardasa

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Quote from: ~PayPal-Trader~ on January 14, 2016, 10:18:44 AM

Quote from: sardasa on January 14, 2016, 10:16:38 AM

Quote from: ~PayPal-Trader~ on January 14, 2016, 10:14:09 AM

Quote from: sardasa on January 14, 2016, 10:10:53 AM

Quote from: ~PayPal-Trader~ on January 14, 2016, 10:07:17 AM

Quote from: Undermood on January 14, 2016, 09:33:32 AM

Sender trusted jr member with 0.11 or 0.27BTC with 10 satishi fees. Hopefully the transaction will get confirmed and Op could run away with the money, could buy a sr member account with that money. Angry

Sender's scam attempt will fail.

There is no trick from my side , i have been trading in paypal and this is fourth time i am trading in bitcoin.
I know now that sardasa will run away with bitcoins that i have sent him , but i will wait for the transaction to confirm .
I am regretting not to use escrow.
Meanwhile i know sardasa , he is on TBN.

If you know me from TBN, then you must also know that I am not going to run away with $50. I have had much bigger deals and never been accused of running away.
Its your mess & you should take responsibility of it instead of blaming me!

What could have escrow done in this case? If he had not received BTC in his wallet then he would not have let me send you money. No escrow would let buyer send money unless BTC txn gets at least 1 confirmation.

There is no blame from my side , it is you who is screaming and blaming , Grow Up , I am waiting for txn to get confirm.
sagar...

You were the who were pressurizing me yesterday to pay you after you sent me this txn link.
As soon as the txn is confirmed I'll pay you as per the BTC price at the time it gets confirmed or refund your BTC (whatever would suit both of us at that time)

Okay , i am done with you , please refund my coins as soon as you get the confirmation and do add a fee 0f 0.0001 btc and deduce from the amount that i sent you.
thank you and please don't pm me .

Leave your BTC address where you would like to get this refund. You'll get it as soon this txn is confirmed. I am deriving any pleasure from PMing you. Feel free to block my PMs.

~PayPal-Trader~

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Quote from: sardasa on January 14, 2016, 10:16:38 AM

Quote from: ~PayPal-Trader~ on January 14, 2016, 10:14:09 AM

Quote from: sardasa on January 14, 2016, 10:10:53 AM

Quote from: ~PayPal-Trader~ on January 14, 2016, 10:07:17 AM

Quote from: Undermood on January 14, 2016, 09:33:32 AM

Sender trusted jr member with 0.11 or 0.27BTC with 10 satishi fees. Hopefully the transaction will get confirmed and Op could run away with the money, could buy a sr member account with that money. Angry

Sender's scam attempt will fail.

There is no trick from my side , i have been trading in paypal and this is fourth time i am trading in bitcoin.
I know now that sardasa will run away with bitcoins that i have sent him , but i will wait for the transaction to confirm .
I am regretting not to use escrow.
Meanwhile i know sardasa , he is on TBN.

If you know me from TBN, then you must also know that I am not going to run away with $50. I have had much bigger deals and never been accused of running away.
Its your mess & you should take responsibility of it instead of blaming me!

What could have escrow done in this case? If he had not received BTC in his wallet then he would not have let me send you money. No escrow would let buyer send money unless BTC txn gets at least 1 confirmation.

There is no blame from my side , it is you who is screaming and blaming , Grow Up , I am waiting for txn to get confirm.
sagar...

You were the who were pressurizing me yesterday to pay you after you sent me this txn link.
As soon as the txn is confirmed I'll pay you as per the BTC price at the time it gets confirmed or refund your BTC (whatever would suit both of us at that time)

Okay , i am done with you , please refund my coins as soon as you get the confirmation and do add a fee 0f 0.0001 btc and deduce from the amount that i sent you.
thank you and please don't pm me .

sardasa

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Quote from: ~PayPal-Trader~ on January 14, 2016, 10:14:09 AM

Quote from: sardasa on January 14, 2016, 10:10:53 AM

Quote from: ~PayPal-Trader~ on January 14, 2016, 10:07:17 AM

Quote from: Undermood on January 14, 2016, 09:33:32 AM

Sender trusted jr member with 0.11 or 0.27BTC with 10 satishi fees. Hopefully the transaction will get confirmed and Op could run away with the money, could buy a sr member account with that money. Angry

Sender's scam attempt will fail.

There is no trick from my side , i have been trading in paypal and this is fourth time i am trading in bitcoin.
I know now that sardasa will run away with bitcoins that i have sent him , but i will wait for the transaction to confirm .
I am regretting not to use escrow.
Meanwhile i know sardasa , he is on TBN.

If you know me from TBN, then you must also know that I am not going to run away with $50. I have had much bigger deals and never been accused of running away.
Its your mess & you should take responsibility of it instead of blaming me!

What could have escrow done in this case? If he had not received BTC in his wallet then he would not have let me send you money. No escrow would let buyer send money unless BTC txn gets at least 1 confirmation.

There is no blame from my side , it is you who is screaming and blaming , Grow Up , I am waiting for txn to get confirm.
sagar...

You were the who were pressurizing me yesterday to pay you after you sent me this txn link.
As soon as the txn is confirmed I'll pay you as per the BTC price at the time it gets confirmed or refund your BTC (whatever would suit both of us at that time)

Edit:

Quote from: ~PayPal-Trader~ on January 14, 2016, 10:07:17 AM

There is no trick from my side , i have been trading in paypal and this is fourth time i am trading in bitcoin.
I know now that sardasa will run away with bitcoins that i have sent him , but i will wait for the transaction to confirm .
I am regretting not to use escrow.
Meanwhile i know sardasa , he is on TBN.

If the highlighted line is not blame then what is it?

~PayPal-Trader~

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Quote from: sardasa on January 14, 2016, 10:10:53 AM

Quote from: ~PayPal-Trader~ on January 14, 2016, 10:07:17 AM

Quote from: Undermood on January 14, 2016, 09:33:32 AM

Sender trusted jr member with 0.11 or 0.27BTC with 10 satishi fees. Hopefully the transaction will get confirmed and Op could run away with the money, could buy a sr member account with that money. Angry

Sender's scam attempt will fail.

There is no trick from my side , i have been trading in paypal and this is fourth time i am trading in bitcoin.
I know now that sardasa will run away with bitcoins that i have sent him , but i will wait for the transaction to confirm .
I am regretting not to use escrow.
Meanwhile i know sardasa , he is on TBN.

If you know me from TBN, then you must also know that I am not going to run away with $50. I have had much bigger deals and never been accused of running away.
Its your mess & you should take responsibility of it instead of blaming me!

What could have escrow done in this case? If he had not received BTC in his wallet then he would not have let me send you money. No escrow would let buyer send money unless BTC txn gets at least 1 confirmation.

There is no blame from my side , it is you who is screaming and blaming , Grow Up , I am waiting for txn to get confirm.
sagar...

foxkyu

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You have to wait until it tx is confirmed. Nothing you can do about this.

Not like other payment method, bitcoin is irreversible.

Or you can create a new watch address on blockchain.info about your address.

So you know when you receive the bitcoin.

sardasa

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Quote from: ~PayPal-Trader~ on January 14, 2016, 10:07:17 AM

Quote from: Undermood on January 14, 2016, 09:33:32 AM

Sender trusted jr member with 0.11 or 0.27BTC with 10 satishi fees. Hopefully the transaction will get confirmed and Op could run away with the money, could buy a sr member account with that money. Angry

Sender's scam attempt will fail.

There is no trick from my side , i have been trading in paypal and this is fourth time i am trading in bitcoin.
I know now that sardasa will run away with bitcoins that i have sent him , but i will wait for the transaction to confirm .
I am regretting not to use escrow.
Meanwhile i know sardasa , he is on TBN.

If you know me from TBN, then you must also know that I am not going to run away with $50. I have had much bigger deals and never been accused of running away.
Its your mess & you should take responsibility of it instead of blaming me!

What could have escrow done in this case? If he had not received BTC in his wallet then he would not have let me send you money. No escrow would let buyer send money unless BTC txn gets at least 1 confirmation.

~PayPal-Trader~

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Activity: 33

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Quote from: Undermood on January 14, 2016, 09:33:32 AM

Sender trusted jr member with 0.11 or 0.27BTC with 10 satishi fees. Hopefully the transaction will get confirmed and Op could run away with the money, could buy a sr member account with that money. Angry

Sender's scam attempt will fail.

There is no trick from my side , i have been trading in paypal and this is fourth time i am trading in bitcoin.
I know now that sardasa will run away with bitcoins that i have sent him , but i will wait for the transaction to confirm .
I am regretting not to use escrow.
Meanwhile i know sardasa , he is on TBN.

sardasa

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Activity: 1064

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Quote from: Undermood on January 14, 2016, 09:33:32 AM

Sender trusted jr member with 0.11 or 0.27BTC with 10 satishi fees. Hopefully the transaction will get confirmed and Op could run away with the money, could buy a sr member account with that money. Angry

Sender's scam attempt will fail.

Are you out of your mind? Why the hell would I create a thread if I had to scam him?
As soon as the txn is confirmed, I will send him his money.

Undermood

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Sender trusted jr member with 0.11 or 0.27BTC with 10 satishi fees. Hopefully the transaction will get confirmed and Op could run away with the money, could buy a sr member account with that money. Angry

Sender's scam attempt will fail.

chanlance

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Fees 0.0000001 BTC Shocked

this will take some time to be confirmed

sardasa

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Quote from: UnknownUsername on January 14, 2016, 08:46:14 AM

~PayPal-Trader~ is this the guy?

yep, highly a scam attempt, the possible scammer is using a newbie account and posts in the currency section. Likely a scammer hunting for newbie bitcoiners.

Yep, he is the guy.
Edit: Updated OP with the profile link.

UnknownUsername

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~PayPal-Trader~ is this the guy?

yep, highly a scam attempt, the possible scammer is using a newbie account and posts in the currency section. Likely a scammer hunting for newbie bitcoiners.

sardasa

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Quote from: Undermood on January 14, 2016, 08:23:28 AM

There is high chance that this tx will be dropped by the network. Hopefully you haven't sent money to him. If he is a bitcoin, he should know that the minimus fees at least should be 1000Satoshi. Then I think he intentionally scam you.

Good thing was I did not send him money though he pressurized me a lot by giving this link.
I guess my instincts were right but this was the 1st time I was deceived like this. Now, I gotta be even more careful & see the amount of fee sender paid for the txn before releasing their payment.

Undermood

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There is high chance that this tx will be dropped by the network. Hopefully you haven't sent money to him. If he is a bitcoin, he should know that the minimus fees at least should be 1000Satoshi. Then I think he intentionally scam you.

sardasa

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Quote from: zazarb on January 14, 2016, 08:14:57 AM

if you still have not paid him, This is what you worry?
I think with so fee , you'll never get btc, and
a high probability that he made a conscious, he never replied to my offer...

I was worried that I held payment of a genuine trader for no reason but it turns out that he's not genuine and it was very good decision to not pay him as soon as he gave me this txn link.

zazarb

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Get loan in just five minutes goo.gl/8WMW6n

if you still have not paid him, This is what you worry?
I think with so fee , you'll never get btc, and
a high probability that he made a conscious, he never replied to my offer...

sardasa

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Quote from: shorena on January 14, 2016, 05:59:51 AM

If you think this was done intentionally you can open a thread in scam accusation with the usual format there. I would keep this as it is or use it to follow up on the technical details.

You can also instead of just keep pushing the TX, spend the coins you received and pay a fee high enough for both TX (known as child pays for parent - CPFP) or contact a pool operator directly and ask if they would include the TX (or the TX and the CPFP TX). Im not sure if coinbase allows spending unconfirmed coins though, so that might not be an option.

I have dropped him a PM telling him the same. Lets wait for him to reply on this thread or in PM.
Coinbase does not allows me to spend coins which are not confirmed. So, I can not do anything with these coins until they are confirmed.

shorena

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No I dont escrow anymore.

Quote from: sardasa on January 14, 2016, 05:28:16 AM

Quote from: shorena on January 13, 2016, 06:00:37 PM

Quote from: sardasa on January 13, 2016, 05:42:54 PM

Quote from: shorena on January 13, 2016, 05:41:15 PM

Quote from: sardasa on January 13, 2016, 05:38:44 PM

Finally it came to my coinbase account 8 minutes back.
http://prntscr.com/9prdo9
Do you guys think it can still be dropped by the n/w or I can pay him now?

Still says 0 confirmations.

Yeah, still says 0 confirmation but it appeared in my account. Until 12 minutes back it was not even appearing in my wallet.

That just means a full node run by coinbase knows about the transaction. It does not improve the chances to get confirmed. Well, unless coinbase automatically rebroadcasts receiving transactions, but I dont think they do.

Nothing in my wallet yet. It still has 0 confirmations and there are 99.99% chances that network will drop this txn and he'll get it back.
Now I understood, he was are trying to do. He was trying to scam users by sending them BTC w/o appropriate fee and hoping that its gets dropped by the n/w and he get money as well as your BTC back.

Shall I move this thread under Scam Accusations?

If you think this was done intentionally you can open a thread in scam accusation with the usual format there. I would keep this as it is or use it to follow up on the technical details.

You can also instead of just keep pushing the TX, spend the coins you received and pay a fee high enough for both TX (known as child pays for parent - CPFP) or contact a pool operator directly and ask if they would include the TX (or the TX and the CPFP TX). Im not sure if coinbase allows spending unconfirmed coins though, so that might not be an option.

sardasa

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Quote from: shorena on January 13, 2016, 06:00:37 PM

Quote from: sardasa on January 13, 2016, 05:42:54 PM

Quote from: shorena on January 13, 2016, 05:41:15 PM

Quote from: sardasa on January 13, 2016, 05:38:44 PM

Finally it came to my coinbase account 8 minutes back.
http://prntscr.com/9prdo9
Do you guys think it can still be dropped by the n/w or I can pay him now?

Still says 0 confirmations.

Yeah, still says 0 confirmation but it appeared in my account. Until 12 minutes back it was not even appearing in my wallet.

That just means a full node run by coinbase knows about the transaction. It does not improve the chances to get confirmed. Well, unless coinbase automatically rebroadcasts receiving transactions, but I dont think they do.

Nothing in my wallet yet. It still has 0 confirmations and there are 99.99% chances that network will drop this txn and he'll get it back.
Now I understood, he was are trying to do. He was trying to scam users by sending them BTC w/o appropriate fee and hoping that its gets dropped by the n/w and he get money as well as your BTC back.

Shall I move this thread under Scam Accusations?

shorena

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No I dont escrow anymore.

Quote from: sardasa on January 13, 2016, 05:42:54 PM

Quote from: shorena on January 13, 2016, 05:41:15 PM

Quote from: sardasa on January 13, 2016, 05:38:44 PM

Finally it came to my coinbase account 8 minutes back.
http://prntscr.com/9prdo9
Do you guys think it can still be dropped by the n/w or I can pay him now?

Still says 0 confirmations.

Yeah, still says 0 confirmation but it appeared in my account. Until 12 minutes back it was not even appearing in my wallet.

That just means a full node run by coinbase knows about the transaction. It does not improve the chances to get confirmed. Well, unless coinbase automatically rebroadcasts receiving transactions, but I dont think they do.

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