PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! - page 74.

Mabsark

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Quote from: galdur on November 26, 2014, 12:04:21 PM

How do you know that those operations are ponzis ?
Since you state this as a fact you presumably have
something to back it up.

It's not up to us to prove they're a ponzi, it's up to them to prove they're legit. If they were legit, they could quite easily prove that and end these allegations of being a ponzi but they choose not to do so. Why? Because they're a ponzi.

If you want to throw your money at some dodgy company instead of a company that's proven it has hashing power, or even more sensibly, a company that is also an ASIC manufacturer, then that just makes you a fool and anyone who listens to you is an even bigger fool.

Don't you think it strange that the only people supporting these ponzis are new users, whereas most the established users here are claiming they're ponzis?

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Quote from: coinmaster222 on November 26, 2014, 12:15:14 PM

galdur Well you that knows so much tell us how much hash power pb mining has and where they aquired there harware

I have no at all reason to do so.

It´s on you ponzi specialists to provide evidence
for your allegations. You started this ponzi bullshit.

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Quote from: coinmaster222 on November 26, 2014, 12:15:14 PM

galdur Well you that knows so much tell us how much hash power pb mining has and where they aquired there harware

he was also going to post a full business profile of PBMining, that took him 30 seconds to find on google, i recall.

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galdur Well you that knows so much tell us how much hash power pb mining has and where they aquired there harware

raskul

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Quote from: Puppet on November 26, 2014, 12:06:17 PM

Quote from: raskul on November 26, 2014, 11:41:03 AM

I know of at least TWO h/w manufacturers who have approached PBMining to offer them good discounts to purchase their products.
FACT: PBMining refused flat they required any hardware ~~from those vendors.~~

Fixed that for you.

i refrained, but yes, had thought about wording it as you have FTFM. Cheesy

galdur

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Yeah, those ponzi specialists are always long on
knowing this and that but always short on providing
any evidence.

Puppet

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Quote from: raskul on November 26, 2014, 11:41:03 AM

I know of at least TWO h/w manufacturers who have approached PBMining to offer them good discounts to purchase their products.
FACT: PBMining refused flat they required any hardware ~~from those vendors.~~

Fixed that for you.

galdur

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Quote from: Mabsark on November 26, 2014, 12:01:41 PM

Quote from: galdur on November 26, 2014, 11:43:32 AM

Every "security" in that securities section carries that Ponzi
warning from BCT. It´s just strange that the ponzi specialists
here are pushing something that has this warning. But of
course it´s very well established that they don´t have a clue
about what´s a ponzi and what´s not.

Says the new member with a pile of ponzis in his sig. Grin

Like I said, ponzi-pusher, that warning applies to the securities forum, not to any specific security and the full message is:

Warning: Moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Watch out for Ponzi schemes. Do not invest more than you can afford to lose.

There have previously been verified ponzis that advertised in the services sub-forum. Does that mean all services advertised here are ponzis? Of course not. If the moderator put up a message warning people that there have been ponzis in this subforum, would you then agree that all the services in your sig which have promoted their service here are ponzis?

How do you know that those operations are ponzis ?
Since you state this as a fact you presumably have
something to back it up.

ATCkit

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So? I really lost my 0.10 BTC?

I contacted you by email twice, no response until now.

Here is the second time two. So?

I rounded an amount for mistake in the order No:

4599622532352 0.10509545 75 22-11-2014

The total amount sent was 0.105096 BTC you can see in transaction:

https://blockchain.info/pt/tx/0b19b69e9fe4edd86d4d4a137f55f4eb801a73ab120e58ab0be68de0688f3878

The trouble is that I sent the coins from a trade site, not from my own wallet and if you refund it it won't come to me.
So I ask you to mine the 75ghs into my account and leave the rounded amount away. Or if you refund it you must to do to my BTC wallet registered in my pbmining account.

I hope you can answer me asap, before you refund to other wallet because I sent you an email but didn't have response in time.

Thanks!

I made that mistake when i ordered the first time. I sent them a PM here. It got fixed. Here is the reply i got from them:

"Our order system doesn't recognize amounts that are higher or lower, and so we must process those orders manually. We actually have an agreement that you clicked through during the checkout process that told you how important this is, and failure to send the exact amount can lead to a 30 day hold on your order. I'll process it for you now though, just remember for next time."

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Quote from: galdur on November 26, 2014, 11:43:32 AM

Every "security" in that securities section carries that Ponzi
warning from BCT. It´s just strange that the ponzi specialists
here are pushing something that has this warning. But of
course it´s very well established that they don´t have a clue
about what´s a ponzi and what´s not.

Says the new member with a pile of ponzis in his sig. Grin

Like I said, ponzi-pusher, that warning applies to the securities forum, not to any specific security and the full message is:

Warning: Moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Watch out for Ponzi schemes. Do not invest more than you can afford to lose.

There have previously been verified ponzis that advertised in the services sub-forum. Does that mean all services advertised here are ponzis? Of course not. If the moderator put up a message warning people that there have been ponzis in this subforum, would you then agree that all the services in your sig which have promoted their service here are ponzis?

galdur

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Quote from: ATCkit on November 26, 2014, 11:44:24 AM

Quote from: raskul on November 26, 2014, 11:41:03 AM

Quote from: Mabsark on November 26, 2014, 11:34:28 AM

What ASIC manufacturer has confirmed PB have any hashing power?

I know of at least TWO h/w manufacturers who have approached PBMining to offer them good discounts to purchase their products.
FACT: PBMining refused flat they required any hardware from those vendors.

to this day, I do not know which hardware PBMining are using, and I had speculated a while back that it was actually a venture which evolved from the HashFail brothers mass-screw-over of their customers.

In fact, wouldn't it be a proper kick in the nuts if Hashfail have been getting away with this ponzi for this length of time.
scary, unlikely, but not wholly impossible.

I don't think any company could get away with a Ponzi for as long as companies like PB mining have been around. I very much doubt PB Mining is a ponzi as i have seen several people mention ( in various forum threads) they gained ROI with PB a long time ago.

According to the ponzi specialists here this is a special kind
of ponzi with extra long staying power which could run for years
and years.

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Quote from: ATCkit on November 26, 2014, 11:44:24 AM

Quote from: raskul on November 26, 2014, 11:41:03 AM

Quote from: Mabsark on November 26, 2014, 11:34:28 AM

What ASIC manufacturer has confirmed PB have any hashing power?

I know of at least TWO h/w manufacturers who have approached PBMining to offer them good discounts to purchase their products.
FACT: PBMining refused flat they required any hardware from those vendors.

to this day, I do not know which hardware PBMining are using, and I had speculated a while back that it was actually a venture which evolved from the HashFail brothers mass-screw-over of their customers.

In fact, wouldn't it be a proper kick in the nuts if Hashfail have been getting away with this ponzi for this length of time.
scary, unlikely, but not wholly impossible.

I don't think any company could get away with a Ponzi for as long as companies like PB mining have been around. I very much doubt PB Mining is a ponzi as i have seen several people mention ( in various forum threads) they gained ROI with PB a long time ago.

I have 9 month with pb mining and pb mining has another 2 year story with the selling of hash power in ebay. No one compliant.

raskul

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Quote from: ATCkit on November 26, 2014, 11:44:24 AM

Quote from: raskul on November 26, 2014, 11:41:03 AM

Quote from: Mabsark on November 26, 2014, 11:34:28 AM

What ASIC manufacturer has confirmed PB have any hashing power?

I know of at least TWO h/w manufacturers who have approached PBMining to offer them good discounts to purchase their products.
FACT: PBMining refused flat they required any hardware from those vendors.

to this day, I do not know which hardware PBMining are using, and I had speculated a while back that it was actually a venture which evolved from the HashFail brothers mass-screw-over of their customers.

In fact, wouldn't it be a proper kick in the nuts if Hashfail have been getting away with this ponzi for this length of time.
scary, unlikely, but not wholly impossible.

I don't think any company could get away with a Ponzi for as long as companies like PB mining have been around. I very much doubt PB Mining is a ponzi as i have seen several people mention ( in various forum threads) they gained ROI with PB a long time ago.

you clearly haven't read the arguments in this thread.
a ponzi is able to last as long as people keep throwing money at it. I don't know how much clearer i can put that.

ATCkit

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Quote from: raskul on November 26, 2014, 11:41:03 AM

Quote from: Mabsark on November 26, 2014, 11:34:28 AM

What ASIC manufacturer has confirmed PB have any hashing power?

I know of at least TWO h/w manufacturers who have approached PBMining to offer them good discounts to purchase their products.
FACT: PBMining refused flat they required any hardware from those vendors.

to this day, I do not know which hardware PBMining are using, and I had speculated a while back that it was actually a venture which evolved from the HashFail brothers mass-screw-over of their customers.

In fact, wouldn't it be a proper kick in the nuts if Hashfail have been getting away with this ponzi for this length of time.
scary, unlikely, but not wholly impossible.

I don't think any company could get away with a Ponzi for as long as companies like PB mining have been around. I very much doubt PB Mining is a ponzi as i have seen several people mention ( in various forum threads) they gained ROI with PB a long time ago.

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Quote from: Mabsark on November 26, 2014, 11:34:28 AM

Quote from: galdur on November 26, 2014, 08:50:09 AM

Well, I doubt that you´re a very reliable authority on these things.

And since that AMASH thing carries a ponzi scam warning from BCT
I think I´m in full right to enquire.

AMHash does not carry a warning from BCT at all. The BCT "Securities" sub-forum is what carries the warning.

BCT thinks BCT is a ponzi!

Quote from: RocketSingh on November 26, 2014, 09:44:07 AM

What are u talking about ? Hashie admitted that they do the same !!! What's the problem if PB does it ?

After saying that though, Hashie then started selling AMHash which was confirmed by AMHash. So, they have an ASIC manufacturer confirming that they have hashing power. What ASIC manufacturer has confirmed PB have any hashing power?

Every "security" in that securities section carries that Ponzi
warning from BCT. It´s just strange that the ponzi specialists
here are pushing something that has this warning. But of
course it´s very well established that they don´t have a clue
about what´s a ponzi and what´s not.

raskul

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Quote from: Mabsark on November 26, 2014, 11:34:28 AM

What ASIC manufacturer has confirmed PB have any hashing power?

I know of at least TWO h/w manufacturers who have approached PBMining to offer them good discounts to purchase their products.
FACT: PBMining refused flat they required any hardware from those vendors.

to this day, I do not know which hardware PBMining are using, and I had speculated a while back that it was actually a venture which evolved from the HashFail brothers mass-screw-over of their customers.

In fact, wouldn't it be a proper kick in the nuts if Hashfail have been getting away with this ponzi for this length of time.
scary, unlikely, but not wholly impossible.

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Quote from: galdur on November 26, 2014, 08:50:09 AM

Well, I doubt that you´re a very reliable authority on these things.

And since that AMASH thing carries a ponzi scam warning from BCT
I think I´m in full right to enquire.

AMHash does not carry a warning from BCT at all. The BCT "Securities" sub-forum is what carries the warning.

BCT thinks BCT is a ponzi!

Quote from: RocketSingh on November 26, 2014, 09:44:07 AM

What are u talking about ? Hashie admitted that they do the same !!! What's the problem if PB does it ?

After saying that though, Hashie then started selling AMHash which was confirmed by AMHash. So, they have an ASIC manufacturer confirming that they have hashing power. What ASIC manufacturer has confirmed PB have any hashing power?

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Quote from: miner454 on November 26, 2014, 11:27:58 AM

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I got asked those same questions when I warned people not to invest in various usagi schemes. People who didnt listen lost ~100%
Patrick Harnett starfish/kraken ponzi. People who didnt listen lost ~100%
Pirate. People who didnt listen lost up to 100%
cryptx (my supposed 'darling'). People who didnt listen lost ~80%
Then there was Labcoin, BT Trader, AMT,

So you're like the Guardian of BTCs...a superhero. Should we call you superman, btcman, super btcman?

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Nope, but it is the value of my BTC thats constantly being degraded by these scams that strongly associate bitcoin with scams and put pressure to increase regulation and enforcement. So yeah, you are messing with my wallet.

Besides that, Ive been in to bitcoin since quite a long time, and have yet to lose a satoshi to scams, so I did quite well for myself. I can afford to spend some time informing bitcoin newbies. Its a free world you said, so Im allowed am I not?

Wow. You must have a trillion BTCs? BTC is no longer a free currency because you dictate how people use them.

What's your proof of BTCs being degraded or is this all mere invention in your head?
Do you feel that you are the founder of BTC because you first read about bitcoin in wikipedia a decade ago? Is this why you feel so righteous?

+1

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I got asked those same questions when I warned people not to invest in various usagi schemes. People who didnt listen lost ~100%
Patrick Harnett starfish/kraken ponzi. People who didnt listen lost ~100%
Pirate. People who didnt listen lost up to 100%
cryptx (my supposed 'darling'). People who didnt listen lost ~80%
Then there was Labcoin, BT Trader, AMT,

So you're like the Guardian of BTCs...a superhero. Should we call you superman, btcman, super btcman?

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Nope, but it is the value of my BTC thats constantly being degraded by these scams that strongly associate bitcoin with scams and put pressure to increase regulation and enforcement. So yeah, you are messing with my wallet.

Besides that, Ive been in to bitcoin since quite a long time, and have yet to lose a satoshi to scams, so I did quite well for myself. I can afford to spend some time informing bitcoin newbies. Its a free world you said, so Im allowed am I not?

Wow. You must have a trillion BTCs? BTC is no longer a free currency because you dictate how people use them.

What's your proof of BTCs being degraded or is this all mere invention in your head?
Do you feel that you are the founder of BTC because you first read about bitcoin in wikipedia a decade ago? Is this why you feel so righteous?

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Quote from: coinmaster222 on November 26, 2014, 10:46:47 AM

Told you not getting into an argument merely gave an opinion.I dont invest in them though I do in cloud mining over 4 terra with one company alone and 3 with another but not one cent is with a company that sells hash it does not have or is not on a sound financial footing with good management.So no disrespect please go and annoy someone else.

good thing too, i think that's normally called 'doing due diligence' for those who are simply here to sling personal abuse.
I've done my due diligence with PBMining and have concluded that there is nothing worth buying here.

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