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Topic: People might sell they're merit points. - page 11. (Read 1923 times)

hero member
Activity: 1932
Merit: 504
January 26, 2018, 03:16:33 AM
#26
Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.

We cannot control people from giving merit, no matter what your rank is you deserve merit as long as its reasonable. This is a great new system that everyone should work hard for. Giving merit to those people you think qualified is a must, it is meant to be spent since there is no benefit of hoarding. Its not good to sell your merit, you should be responsible for that and you might face consequences for that action.
this forum, staffs, moderators might already think about that and they are clever enough to see which one is abuse the system and which is not. so if that people think if they can  trade merit to another, it will be wrong decision
full member
Activity: 952
Merit: 104
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January 26, 2018, 03:12:45 AM
#25
Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.

I dont see any bad image on a newbie having merit on their status as long as they contribute to the community. Yes it might be doubtful to think of it but what if these newbies post are far more contributory than those who are jr.member and above. So as long as they are not shit spammer then they deserve that merit.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 1273
January 26, 2018, 03:08:56 AM
#24
Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.
Because they deserved it. I believe a merit point is given because of they do a quality post. And I believe many trusted people will strongly disagree with the merit points seller, if someone caught selling and buying it I'm sure they will get a negative trust.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 12
January 26, 2018, 03:05:35 AM
#23
Im newbie here and I saw merits.. I dont understand it.. I even research in google but I couldnt find any answer..

Merit is just a reward points you get for quality posts from orher users. Fraction of merit you receive become spendable so you can in turn reward posts of other users at will. Merit is also required to advance in ranking after jr.Member.
member
Activity: 336
Merit: 10
January 26, 2018, 02:55:49 AM
#22
Ofcourse every a change have pros and cons
Its good to decrease someone use lot of fake bitcointalk account but its not fair for someone who really do the bounty with only one account from newbie rank thats really hard to get 10 merit
full member
Activity: 350
Merit: 112
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January 26, 2018, 02:49:14 AM
#21
I like the idea too, some people will always try to trick the system though. One way to avoid it would be to limit the merit ooints someone can send to a single user. If you identify someone as a scammer you can also just give a single "- trust" rating to that individual. It protects the indivudual from a false claim. It would only be logic that it works also that way in the opposite direction, to protect the community from false + trust ratings such ad metit points.
jr. member
Activity: 58
Merit: 1
January 26, 2018, 02:48:42 AM
#20
That is definitely a legitimate concern. We'll just have to hope that a majority of users will use the merit point system as intended and that moderators and good samaritans will report any suspicious behaviour that could be evidence of individuals selling merit.
hero member
Activity: 720
Merit: 500
January 26, 2018, 02:48:34 AM
#19
Merit added to the forum which is in my thinking is a great move by admin Theymos, but what about those guys who have multiple accounts already here they can easily create a new account and give merit to it? What about them and it will be unfair to that person who will just come here to learn and read the queries about Bitcoin will get no rank?

However, I am in the side of Merit. I like that idea personally.
full member
Activity: 2128
Merit: 180
January 26, 2018, 02:45:32 AM
#18
Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.

We cannot control people from giving merit, no matter what your rank is you deserve merit as long as its reasonable. This is a great new system that everyone should work hard for. Giving merit to those people you think qualified is a must, it is meant to be spent since there is no benefit of hoarding. Its not good to sell your merit, you should be responsible for that and you might face consequences for that action.
sr. member
Activity: 504
Merit: 251
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January 26, 2018, 02:42:38 AM
#17
I don't know why some people are not liking the merit system. Yes we more than likely will see people abusing it but if it puts posts back on track rather than just senseless spam then it's a good change.
The system has only been in place for a couple of days so it is still early days. If anything our less senior members of the community should start to see more merit than the likes of legends.
member
Activity: 110
Merit: 16
January 26, 2018, 02:41:23 AM
#16
This merit mechanism is still under test, and we should not make that explicit because it helps us to have more quality posts than just those that make no sense. Of course, we can also make suggestions, after all, this is only in the testing process.
member
Activity: 392
Merit: 24
January 26, 2018, 02:38:19 AM
#15
I agree with that.
People can sell their merits
People can use their merits for just their friends or for just their unions also
People who know each other or who use multi accounts can use their merits also to themselves.
If the aim of merit is to prevent spam and low quality post, the solution is not merit.
There are also small precautions like to put minimum amount of letter for a post.
To put minimum period of time between 2 posts.
If you still insist about merit system it can be change to give people more sMerit.
Giving only one sMerit means you have elections and just one vote for one post. But this doesn't work for lots of people.
If you want to make a system which is equal for everyone than everyone should start from 0 merits why different ranks and different merits around ?
If you have a new starts this will be a start for everyone not like giving thousands of merits to legends and giving nothing to Jr.s
jr. member
Activity: 72
Merit: 6
January 26, 2018, 02:33:52 AM
#14
Sure, people might sell their merit points, but honestly, what would be the market value for them and how would you even go about negotiating the sale of merits?  Since I'm just a Jr. Member the new system isn't really good for me but I like the fact that it will keep discussion quality high.  Or at the least prevent people from spamming the board just to join a bounty campaign.  

Another side benefit is that I believe newbies will do more research before they start posting so that they can earn merits with their posts.  That helps all the users here become more informed.
newbie
Activity: 160
Merit: 0
January 26, 2018, 02:33:33 AM
#13
Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.
A lot of changes happen in this forum lately due to some issues of shit posting of some people here. It was a good idea to clean this forum so that it would really function on its purpose which is to become a real 'forum.' I've seen lately the +merit button and read about it. Merit now is more valuable than just the number of activities or post. It was also a really good idea to count the person's contribution in this forum. But it is also possible that high rank members here can sell their merit points to those who wants to rank up.
So if that is the case another problem is rising and need to be solve? Seems like every time when the problem was given a solution another problem is rising.
Well this is possible but as long as the moderators and the good members here are working together that kind of problem can be solve, and whatever possible problem that occur it can be curable until the time that all community member here will act responsibly.
full member
Activity: 420
Merit: 119
January 26, 2018, 02:31:54 AM
#12
Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.
I don’t see anything wrong in noobies acquiring merit. I don’t understand why you automatically jump to conclusion it was bought? Merit is not panacea to provide information about accoun authority, its a tool to prevent mass account farming.

You have a point there, not because a newbie acquired a merit doesn't mean he instantly buys them from someone or they have an alt account, Some time, even a newbie can bring new things to this forum because of his knowledge acquired from monitoring all crypto, and just started to join here.

Please don't be judgemental on matters we don't know,

Anyways, selling merits is a possibility, if account can be sold I think merit will be as well, I think can easily solve if they finish this system of merit, as we all know, Merit is just started and I know for a fact that they will see the effect of this sooner or later, and by that time, I think they will enhance this system to be fair for others.
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
January 26, 2018, 02:31:52 AM
#11
well if you ask me what do you think i say that iam a little worried from this merit system it might get abused by users friends could give each other merit and also they could sell buy without anyone know or detect it  i know merit like giving a like on post in facebook but here is so different than face or twitter and at the end and about i hope this new system will in a test period and see how it works                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                    (i only say my opinion and if you don't like it i don't care)
newbie
Activity: 109
Merit: 0
January 26, 2018, 02:29:33 AM
#10
Im newbie here and I saw merits.. I dont understand it.. I even research in google but I couldnt find any answer..
member
Activity: 392
Merit: 41
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January 26, 2018, 02:27:34 AM
#9
Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.
I don’t see anything wrong in noobies acquiring merit. I don’t understand why you automatically jump to conclusion it was bought? Merit is not panacea to provide information about accoun authority, its a tool to prevent mass account farming.

You just won a merit.

I can't stress enough how much it is important to distance oneself from account rank.
I have a feeling most people just want to rely on some universal metrics that will tell them "this account have authority because it has N merit, so I don't really need to read it's content, It's better to just agree". This is wrong. Metrics should not matter, CONTENTS of the posts that what should matter no matter what merit/activity/rank it has. Legends can make mistakes and noobs can provide useful info. Rank is merely an indication, not final authority. 
member
Activity: 350
Merit: 47
January 26, 2018, 02:25:09 AM
#8
Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.
Or maybe, just maybe. It is an alternate account, a new one i guess. And the high ranked member just tried to merit his newbie rank for experimenting purpose. Let's not jump on conclusions that newbies would buy merits. It is pretty illogical, newbies would buy merits for? They need merit as a jr and that's a pretty long way to go.

But supposed that the newbie bought the merit, wouldn't someone or anyone notice it? If it's a crappy post and he got a merit then the one who gave the point(high ranked account) will be held responsible right? Perma-ban of your high ranked account for some silly merit, what a waste.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 12
January 26, 2018, 02:21:16 AM
#7
Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.
I don’t see anything wrong in noobies acquiring merit. I don’t understand why you automatically jump to conclusion it was bought? Merit is not panacea to provide information about accoun authority, its a tool to prevent mass account farming.
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