Petition: BFL SC Single should be 65Ghash and not 60Ghash - page 5.

crazyates

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Quote from: ice_chill on October 13, 2012, 03:51:58 PM

There is no arrogance or ignorance, all this is based on the simply fact:

If you by FPGA Single, you get less performance per dollar than FPGA MiniRig.

It was like this with the 3 SC offerings:

Jalapeno: (4.5Ghash) 1Ghash costs $33
SC Single: (60Ghash) 1 Ghash costs $21.65
SC Minirig: (1500Ghash)1 Ghash costs $19.93

You see the more you pay the better value you get, I want this to apply to the LITTLE SC Single, this can be done by upgrading the SC Single to 65Ghash

Thank you for answering my question. It's definitely the latter of my two assumptions. Peace.

ice_chill

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There is no arrogance or ignorance, all this is based on the simply fact:

If you by FPGA Single, you get less performance per dollar than FPGA MiniRig.

It was like this with the 3 SC offerings:

Jalapeno: (4.5Ghash) 1Ghash costs $33
SC Single: (60Ghash) 1 Ghash costs $21.65
SC Minirig: (1500Ghash)1 Ghash costs $19.93

You see the more you pay the better value you get, I want this to apply to the LITTLE SC Single, this can be done by upgrading the SC Single to 65Ghash

SLok

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But what's the problem ice_chill, just buy Little Singles instead of Single SC's, or change your order? As you said, lots of advantages?
Also, you're comparing 30 to 60Gh/s, but the different costs for BFL may be in the difference in internal components, like 4 asics @ 7.5 Gh/s for the little and 10 asics @ 6 Gh/s for the Single?

crazyates

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I demand that Intel increase the speeds of their i7-3930k from 3.8GHz to 4.2GHz. I always demand at least a 10% overclock when I buy new hardware. I see people OC these all the time, so it shouldn't be a problem. Right, Intel? Get on it!

Are you serious? I don't know if I'm more put off by your arrogance, or your ignorance.

creativex

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Hmmm...I can see your redundancy argument, and I agree it's somewhat valid, but that will and should occur to anyone considering investing in the technology.

That redundancy will come with the cost of likely additional shipping, likely greater power consumption, more maintenance, greater chance of failure, & more usb ports required.

Neither option is a slam dunk win.

ice_chill

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Quote from: creativex on October 13, 2012, 03:00:22 PM

Do you have any reason to believe that BFL is currently capable of offering the single sc @ 65GH/s? If so, is there any reason why they shouldn't offer the little single sc @ 32.5GH/s? I guess I don't really understand the point.

Did you order a single sc and are now upset that they offered a product that costs 50% as much and offers 50% of the performance? Huh

(excepting the paltry $1 difference which would be eaten by shipping & power consumption differences anyway)

First point, they said there is atleast 20% headroom in the SC chips.

Second, it's not the $1 that matters, but value for money, which comes in the form of redundancy: if a Single fails and has to be sent back to BFL for repair, than it's better to have 2x30Ghash units than 1x60Ghash.

ElectricMucus

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Marketing manager - GO MP

speechless, I am simply speechless. Shocked

creativex

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Do you have any reason to believe that BFL is currently capable of offering the single sc @ 65GH/s? If so, is there any reason why they shouldn't offer the little single sc @ 32.5GH/s? I guess I don't really understand the point.

Did you order a single sc and are now upset that they offered a product that costs 50% as much and offers 50% of the performance? Huh

(excepting the paltry $1 difference which would be eaten by shipping & power consumption differences anyway)

ice_chill

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Hi, this thread is created in response to the new LITTLE SC Single that is advertised as a 30Ghash unit.

With all other BFL products it has been the case that the more you pay the more you get.

But the new LITTLE SC Single ($649) makes the SC Single ($1299) appear uncompetitive, especially if you are investing a large amount of money for the purchase of over 10 units, in this case you would be interested in having some redundancy, which the LITTLE SC Single offers.
A thread that quickly highlights redundancy benefit is here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-sc-little-single-better-than-sc-single-118276

However if BFL releases a firmware for the SC Single ($1299) to run at 65Ghash, then this keeps the structure of "The more you pay the more value you get".

Also at 65Ghash per SC Single, it would still not out-compete the SC MiniRig.

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