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Topic: Petition to get rid of or fix the default trust system - page 3. (Read 5306 times)

legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
WC it doesn't matter anymore if you buy your stuff off the shelf at Walmart or carve it with your teeth like a fucking beaver...you are a total fucking nutbar.
legendary
Activity: 1131
Merit: 1007
I don't give a shit about the trust system or this forum for that matter. I just think it's funny to watch you try to defend your little operation.  It's hilarious.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1057
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Lord, i almost have to feel sorry for all of you, its so pathetic. You spend hundreds, some of you thousands of hours fighting for your virtual popularity. Seeking the approval of other virtual persons and all it takes is one man, willing to poke the hornets nest, to call you all on your antics, the pathetic campaign for virtual approval and every single one of you has to rise up to try and defend your positions. You have to spend even more hundreds of hours trying to defend your points. All the while really only proving that most everything that i, the guy poking the hornets nest have said is completely true.

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tl;dr

I'm not really interested in what you are raving about, I'm mainly here to laugh at you.
But let me tell you this: The reason not to do "business" here is not the lackluster reputation system but the toxic "community" here. This is because the melange of political delusion and Internet tough guy attitude. And you are a prime example.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
I'll have to point out that the exif dumps of those pictures share astonishing similarities. The fact that the same software was used to edit them makes things even worse.

Or it could just be that Adobe CS3 is also very popular. So now we have proof that 2 users had the same extremely popular camera and also used extremely popular photo editing software. ROCK SOLID!
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100

Lord, i almost have to feel sorry for all of you, its so pathetic. You spend hundreds, some of you thousands of hours fighting for your virtual popularity. Seeking the approval of other virtual persons and all it takes is one man, willing to poke the hornets nest, to call you all on your antics, the pathetic campaign for virtual approval and every single one of you has to rise up to try and defend your positions. You have to spend even more hundreds of hours trying to defend your points. All the while really only proving that most everything that i, the guy poking the hornets nest have said is completely true.

Lets recap.

I point out an obvious but not often discussed problem. The default trust system is faulted in several ways. Took me less than an hour to do that.

then, the people threatened by losing their virtual popularity start another smear campaign. Not actually arguing the fact that the default trust system is broken, because they really cant. But instead trying to use the byproduct of their past smear campaign as the basis for what i stated, which is obvious fact as to attest to the faults in the system further starting another smear campaign to distract from the facts.

Then, Canary In The Mine goes and PROVES BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that the system is seriously flawed by abusing the system to leave negative feedback for 1,000BTC which is a transaction i never had with him.


Then, Nubbins, CITM, Smoothie, BG4, Hillariousandco, and pretty much every one else who stands to lose their virtual popularity points that they have gamed so hard to get make further attempts at trying to discredit the person, not the facts that the system is broken. further proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the system is broken.

Then, as time progresses, and i poke the hornets nest even more, these predictable little kids will further prove the faults in the system in their attempt at retaliation as such they have already done with TecShare and UKcrypto and pretty much anyone else who dared to stand up to them and call a dog a dog when it barks like a dog.


Please to all of you children, continue as you have. i know that you are so naive that you think you are actually making a case in your favor and i am perfectly ok with your disillusion. All it is doing for the rest of us is helping to build the case against your lifeblood and beloved "look at us we have cool green numbers next to our name" crowd. You can argue the semantics of your last escapade all you want, until CITM and a few of you misfits wanted to compile onto the list, after your last escapade my trust went from -618 down to -4 after people realized what idiots you were. i am rather assured that even though most dont want to get involved because they dont want those little red comments from the kid brigade that you are so willing to give if they publicly tell you what idiots you are, they are still behind me as i get told in the PM's almost every day and from the few who are brave enough to leave feedback. 

You may now carry on. please dont let me stop you, i'll be back to poke the hornets nest a little later again to see what else i can shake out of you to further prove my case.
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1491
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
Imagine...

An artist so prolific and skilled everyone should be able to recognize him immediately, yet he is afraid to say who he is...  Roll Eyes

A man who runs a wood carving business that makes lots of money and doesn't have time to waste, yet spends hours on the computer every day defending his reputation on a forum completely irrelevant to his trade.  Roll Eyes

I think YOU are the one that makes it too easy.

by the way those videos were fucking hilariously bad, you look like a child using a chisel for the first time.  I think you know exactly how shitty they were and I think that was part of the point.  I think you like to point out that it doesn't matter how obvious or stupid your scam is.  You are going to keep doing it no matter what and there is always going to be someone dumb enough to buy it.  It sucks that people like you exist but in the end it doesn't matter because the only people you are able to trick with your "art" are people that have deep pockets and no knowledge that they are getting ripped off.  Honestly anyone that bought that garbage deserved it.

this is really entertaining though so please continue.



Imagine......

There is no fear of saying who i am, it is just simply that i choose not to associate my RL identity with my bitcoin one. Which is now for pretty obvious reasons.

In the weeks since the charade of Nubbins and Co. started i have spent less than a dozen hours online.

Lastly, your opinions of some videos really hold no weight as far as i am concerned, i would be willing to bet that although you will probably try and argue it, you have never picked up a mallet and chisel in your entire life and tried to carve on a piece of birch. Therefore you have no idea what it should "look like"

Closing, this thread is not about me, although it seems i am quite famous now, and appreciate all the free marketing. This thread is about the faults in the default trust system. greatly demonstrated by CITM with his false 1,000BTC feedback, and nubbins by his lack of better judgment, and well by just about everyone else on the list.  

Sorry sir but you are a coward and a chicken.

You should have no problem associating your personal identity if your work is so well known/respected and you are what and who you say you are as a master wood carver.

So funny to see you run away from that challenge.

Look my personal identity is know on these forums so I can call you out on this.

Please put up or just stfu. Thanks!
legendary
Activity: 1131
Merit: 1007
Imagine...

An artist so prolific and skilled everyone should be able to recognize him immediately, yet he is afraid to say who he is...  Roll Eyes

A man who runs a wood carving business that makes lots of money and doesn't have time to waste, yet spends hours on the computer every day defending his reputation on a forum completely irrelevant to his trade.  Roll Eyes

I think YOU are the one that makes it too easy.

by the way those videos were fucking hilariously bad, you look like a child using a chisel for the first time.  I think you know exactly how shitty they were and I think that was part of the point.  I think you like to point out that it doesn't matter how obvious or stupid your scam is.  You are going to keep doing it no matter what and there is always going to be someone dumb enough to buy it.  It sucks that people like you exist but in the end it doesn't matter because the only people you are able to trick with your "art" are people that have deep pockets and no knowledge that they are getting ripped off.  Honestly anyone that bought that garbage deserved it.

this is really entertaining though so please continue.



Imagine......

There is no fear of saying who i am, it is just simply that i choose not to associate my RL identity with my bitcoin one. Which is now for pretty obvious reasons.

In the weeks since the charade of Nubbins and Co. started i have spent less than a dozen hours online.

Lastly, your opinions of some videos really hold no weight as far as i am concerned, i would be willing to bet that although you will probably try and argue it, you have never picked up a mallet and chisel in your entire life and tried to carve on a piece of birch. Therefore you have no idea what it should "look like"

Closing, this thread is not about me, although it seems i am quite famous now, and appreciate all the free marketing. This thread is about the faults in the default trust system. greatly demonstrated by CITM with his false 1,000BTC feedback, and nubbins by his lack of better judgment, and well by just about everyone else on the list. 

lol. No.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1057
Marketing manager - GO MP
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
Imagine...

An artist so prolific and skilled everyone should be able to recognize him immediately, yet he is afraid to say who he is...  Roll Eyes

A man who runs a wood carving business that makes lots of money and doesn't have time to waste, yet spends hours on the computer every day defending his reputation on a forum completely irrelevant to his trade.  Roll Eyes

I think YOU are the one that makes it too easy.

by the way those videos were fucking hilariously bad, you look like a child using a chisel for the first time.  I think you know exactly how shitty they were and I think that was part of the point.  I think you like to point out that it doesn't matter how obvious or stupid your scam is.  You are going to keep doing it no matter what and there is always going to be someone dumb enough to buy it.  It sucks that people like you exist but in the end it doesn't matter because the only people you are able to trick with your "art" are people that have deep pockets and no knowledge that they are getting ripped off.  Honestly anyone that bought that garbage deserved it.

this is really entertaining though so please continue.



Imagine......

There is no fear of saying who i am, it is just simply that i choose not to associate my RL identity with my bitcoin one. Which is now for pretty obvious reasons.

In the weeks since the charade of Nubbins and Co. started i have spent less than a dozen hours online.

Lastly, your opinions of some videos really hold no weight as far as i am concerned, i would be willing to bet that although you will probably try and argue it, you have never picked up a mallet and chisel in your entire life and tried to carve on a piece of birch. Therefore you have no idea what it should "look like"

Closing, this thread is not about me, although it seems i am quite famous now, and appreciate all the free marketing. This thread is about the faults in the default trust system. greatly demonstrated by CITM with his false 1,000BTC feedback, and nubbins by his lack of better judgment, and well by just about everyone else on the list. 
legendary
Activity: 1131
Merit: 1007
Imagine...

An artist so prolific and skilled everyone should be able to recognize him immediately, yet he is afraid to say who he is...  Roll Eyes

A man who runs a wood carving business that makes lots of money and doesn't have time to waste, yet spends hours on the computer every day defending his reputation on a forum completely irrelevant to his trade.  Roll Eyes

I think YOU are the one that makes it too easy.

by the way those videos were fucking hilariously bad, you look like a child using a chisel for the first time.  I think you know exactly how shitty they were and I think that was part of the point.  I think you like to point out that it doesn't matter how obvious or stupid your scam is.  You are going to keep doing it no matter what and there is always going to be someone dumb enough to buy it.  It sucks that people like you exist but in the end it doesn't matter because the only people you are able to trick with your "art" are people that have deep pockets and no knowledge that they are getting ripped off.  Honestly anyone that bought that garbage deserved it.

this is really entertaining though so please continue.

full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
Thanks CITM for todays daily update.

UPDATE 2: CITM tries to argue that there is no problem with the default trust system by demonstrating he too can abuse the default trust system by leaving me a negative feedback rating for 1,000BTC when i have never done a single transaction with him.


You guys are making this too easy.  Wink
global moderator
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Merit: 2728
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I really like the trust system, without it, I probably would have been scammed 99% of the time that I did transactions. Sure there are some flaws, but nothing is perfect.  But after reading, I did not see anything you suggest to replace this "failed" system in your mind.

It's not perfect but it's good enough and it usually only "fails" scammers when they get caught out, they then whinge about how broken it is when it's actually proven to work pretty well in their cases.
hero member
Activity: 2268
Merit: 960
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I really like the trust system, without it, I probably would have been scammed 99% of the time that I did transactions. Sure there are some flaws, but nothing is perfect.  But after reading, I did not see anything you suggest to replace this "failed" system in your mind.
legendary
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1451
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I'll have to point out that the exif dumps of those pictures share astonishing similarities. The fact that the same software was used to edit them makes things even worse.
BG4
legendary
Activity: 1006
Merit: 1024
PaperSafe

OMG, you proved it! You proved we both use one of the most popular Canon cameras ever! Clearly 2 separate people could never use the same model camera!

So .. you are confirming... out of the 4 names.. there is actually 2 people behind them.....
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever

OMG, you proved it! You proved we both use one of the most popular Canon cameras ever! Clearly 2 separate people could never use the same model camera!
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
Lets face it. Bitcoin is all about freedom. And if there is a user who files a petition to get rid of the default trust system lets give him/her freedom of expression and freedom to be heard. If the jury doesn't decide to grant the petition, so be it!!!

OP obviously believes lack of a trust system is a differentiator for his quarter million dollar baby. Let him find out. It is obvious if he doesn't he would be burning money made on a few trees sourced from some desperately cheap countries.

Good Luck OP. And some free advice : Moment you begin judging others, you make yourself vulnerable to judgement.
tss
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
LONG WALL OF TEXT SHOWING EPIC AMOUNTS OF BUTTHURT ... AND PREVIOUSLY BEING PROVEN TO BE A LIAR, THIEF, BACK BITER, AND SCAMMER.

 Roll Eyes

he's an "artist" he doesn't get it. he thinks the technicalities are irrelevant as he provides a premium service.  all is fair in his business world.  and he's mad, how anal rententive the people here are. checking every word and saving everything.
donator
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1060
between a rock and a block!
Where did wood collector ship from? Plz pm me info
BG4
legendary
Activity: 1006
Merit: 1024
PaperSafe
Is it also weird that he cannot manage to spell my screen name right either? like a dozen times now at least.

Did he mention your screen name? No, he didn't. You should keep notes for your socks so you don't get confused.

Tiny text because it's diarrhea, quoted for lels, scroll up to double-check.

Oh Nubbins, you kids never give up do you. Lets not forget you and your mob of retards lost that battle and now your just holding on to any thread you can because your position on the default trust list is in jeopardy.
Like you can judge an end product by the first step in making it.


Here we go, lets have a failed attempt at distracting from the facts by using semantics and smoke and mirrors. Anyone with half a brain can look through sodaz post history and find that he has mis-spelled my screen name about 2 dozen times already. But lets just continue to bank on the fact that nobody will check that. Which will be your pitfall.

Just like when Kialara tried to make attempts at proving that i was some other wood working guy by posting photos that he Photoshopped to make it look like they had the same camera data, his downfall was that he linked the site that he claimed to use for those screen shots. It took 2 minutes for anyone with a brain to use that site and see that Kialara was trolling and lying.

Your reputation and credibility have already taken a bad beating over your last bout of semantics and kid games. As such, your position on the default trust list is already in jeopardy.Do you really want to try and keep pushing the issue further destroying your credibility by using things that are easy to prove within 30 seconds? Are you just going to fall on the knife and axe yourself of the trust list? Beyond your little group of shills, do you really think anyone takes anything you have said seriously any more?

None the less, THANK YOU for further proving my point about the default trust system, any further contributions you would like to make to reinforcing my points are appreciated as well.  


If anyone is curious, it appears that WoodCollector has replaced/edited the images in his post after removing the exif data from the photos. Lucky for us all, I still have these photos in a folder on my desktop, and I've uploaded two of them if anyone would like to double-check my work. As if any more proof were needed.

Original Images:
http://i.imgur.com/hqpYcT6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iuj4u3G.jpg

metapicz.com: http://metapicz.com/#landing

Also, take another look at the thread posted by Essimo, aka WoodCollector. Check out the images now. Half are oversaturated and half are undersaturated. It didn't look like this originally. And the file names have changed also.

As a new member to this community, I tried to stay out of all of this, but things changed when WoodCollector attempted to throw myself and Smoothie under the bus. For shame.

Who are you planning on coming back as next time WC?

This is a piece of wood on Tecshares file server....... Is this a match?Huh?   to woodcollector and  Essimo HuhHuh


Tecshare           http://metapicz.com/#landing?imgsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tecshare.com%2Fimg%2Fwoodback.JPG
Tecshare           http://metapicz.com/#landing?imgsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cashink.com%2Ftecshare%2Fimg%2Fdaleks.JPG
Essimo             http://metapicz.com/#landing?imgsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhqpYcT6.jpg
Woodcollector    http://metapicz.com/#landing?imgsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fiuj4u3G.jpg
WC from /reddit  http://metapicz.com/#landing?imgsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwXo1n30.jpg

Random internet Photo for comparison
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