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gambera

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Very possible.
I can lower the stale shares some by reducing the intensity.
I can get it around 2 to 5% if I give up hash rate.
But that negates the extra speed that Phoenix gives me.
My issue is if I get the higher hashes that Phoenix offers the stale shares goes up.

I had about 4 to 8% on Claymore before the 11.4 release.
They claimed they fixed the stale share issue. And man did they. I immediately went
to < 1% without doing any adjusting.

So, I know it can be done.
I want the increased speed that Phoenix offers and the very low stale shares.
If I get the same hash rate on Phoenix and Claymore but Claymore stale rate is <1 % and Phoenix
is 2 to 5% I'm better off going to Claymore. I had rather use Phoenix if they can address this issue.

Interesting. I've been using Phoenix for more than a month now and I get 1-2% stales on miner and 4-5% at ethermine no matter of low or high intensity or -gt.
I've tried 2.6, 2.7a and 2.7c.

I tried Claymore 11.0 with the same % stales at pool. I don't like how I get disconnected from pool when devfee stops, Claymore that is. Haven't tried any other version yet.

My rig gets ~186 Mhs with phoenix and ~182 with Claymore.

It's worth mentioning that 3 of my RX580 have custom vBIOS for mining ETH, the rest are stock.

So, I don't know if it's my setup, two miners or the pool. Average accepted share to pool is 65 ms, which is not that bad.

janding

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Quote from: UnclWish on March 22, 2018, 08:47:38 PM

Quote from: janding on March 22, 2018, 08:27:19 PM

Quote from: UnclWish on March 22, 2018, 06:58:37 PM

Quote from: janding on March 22, 2018, 06:14:40 PM

Quote from: gsrcrxsi314 on March 22, 2018, 03:23:37 PM

Quote from: janding on March 22, 2018, 03:07:51 PM

@PhoenixMiner

I really like the stability and the speed, here it comes, but,
The stale share rate is really bad.
I have all AMD cards, on another miner I get <1 % stale shares.
PhoenixMiner gets 5% to 10% stale shares.

This really needs to be looked at. The additional hash rate that I get using Phoenix is eaten up
with stale shares. I'm loosing .35% of 5 to 10% of all the shares submitted.

I know this can be solved, I've seen it solved elsewhere.

thanks

something wrong with your setup. im using pheonix and get like 1% stales.

it's not the miner.

Sorry dude. nothing wrong with my miner.
You don't know what you're talking about.

I can change to Claymore with EXACTLY SAME SETTINGS.
I get < 1% stale.
Change to Phonex and I get between 5 and 10%.
So, buzz off and let the experts address this.
I didn't ask for amateur help.

5 to 10% is very high... I have with Claymore <1%. With Phoenix 1,5-3%...
I think that this is because of memory timings. Phoenix use memory another way...

Very possible.
I can lower the stale shares some by reducing the intensity.
I can get it around 2 to 5% if I give up hash rate.
But that negates the extra speed that Phoenix gives me.
My issue is if I get the higher hashes that Phoenix offers the stale shares goes up.

I had about 4 to 8% on Claymore before the 11.4 release.
They claimed they fixed the stale share issue. And man did they. I immediately went
to < 1% without doing any adjusting.

So, I know it can be done.
I want the increased speed that Phoenix offers and the very low stale shares.
If I get the same hash rate on Phoenix and Claymore but Claymore stale rate is <1 % and Phoenix
is 2 to 5% I'm better off going to Claymore. I had rather use Phoenix if they can address this issue.

How you reached more speed on Phoenix? For me on my RX 580 8Gb cards Claymore gives about 0,5% more with right dcri tune.

I can't explain why Phoenix is faster. I don't know technically what they have done.
I also have all RX 580's a few are 4gb and some are 8gb. 6 of them.
I had 182.5 mh/s on Claymore. I got 186.2 on Phoenix, without any memory errors or crashes.
But to try to attempt to get the stale shares down I'm now at the same speed as Claymore but with
a much higher stale share rate.

I guess every rig is somewhat different even with the same type cards.
If Phoenix could get the same stale rate and offer me 4 mh/s more than Claymore why would I ever
go back to Claymore.

UnclWish

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Activity: 1484

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Quote from: janding on March 22, 2018, 08:27:19 PM

Quote from: UnclWish on March 22, 2018, 06:58:37 PM

Quote from: janding on March 22, 2018, 06:14:40 PM

Quote from: gsrcrxsi314 on March 22, 2018, 03:23:37 PM

Quote from: janding on March 22, 2018, 03:07:51 PM

@PhoenixMiner

I really like the stability and the speed, here it comes, but,
The stale share rate is really bad.
I have all AMD cards, on another miner I get <1 % stale shares.
PhoenixMiner gets 5% to 10% stale shares.

This really needs to be looked at. The additional hash rate that I get using Phoenix is eaten up
with stale shares. I'm loosing .35% of 5 to 10% of all the shares submitted.

I know this can be solved, I've seen it solved elsewhere.

thanks

something wrong with your setup. im using pheonix and get like 1% stales.

it's not the miner.

Sorry dude. nothing wrong with my miner.
You don't know what you're talking about.

I can change to Claymore with EXACTLY SAME SETTINGS.
I get < 1% stale.
Change to Phonex and I get between 5 and 10%.
So, buzz off and let the experts address this.
I didn't ask for amateur help.

5 to 10% is very high... I have with Claymore <1%. With Phoenix 1,5-3%...
I think that this is because of memory timings. Phoenix use memory another way...

Very possible.
I can lower the stale shares some by reducing the intensity.
I can get it around 2 to 5% if I give up hash rate.
But that negates the extra speed that Phoenix gives me.
My issue is if I get the higher hashes that Phoenix offers the stale shares goes up.

I had about 4 to 8% on Claymore before the 11.4 release.
They claimed they fixed the stale share issue. And man did they. I immediately went
to < 1% without doing any adjusting.

So, I know it can be done.
I want the increased speed that Phoenix offers and the very low stale shares.
If I get the same hash rate on Phoenix and Claymore but Claymore stale rate is <1 % and Phoenix
is 2 to 5% I'm better off going to Claymore. I had rather use Phoenix if they can address this issue.

How you reached more speed on Phoenix? For me on my RX 580 8Gb cards Claymore gives about 0,5% more with right dcri tune.

janding

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Activity: 170

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Quote from: UnclWish on March 22, 2018, 06:58:37 PM

Quote from: janding on March 22, 2018, 06:14:40 PM

Quote from: gsrcrxsi314 on March 22, 2018, 03:23:37 PM

Quote from: janding on March 22, 2018, 03:07:51 PM

@PhoenixMiner

I really like the stability and the speed, here it comes, but,
The stale share rate is really bad.
I have all AMD cards, on another miner I get <1 % stale shares.
PhoenixMiner gets 5% to 10% stale shares.

This really needs to be looked at. The additional hash rate that I get using Phoenix is eaten up
with stale shares. I'm loosing .35% of 5 to 10% of all the shares submitted.

I know this can be solved, I've seen it solved elsewhere.

thanks

something wrong with your setup. im using pheonix and get like 1% stales.

it's not the miner.

Sorry dude. nothing wrong with my miner.
You don't know what you're talking about.

I can change to Claymore with EXACTLY SAME SETTINGS.
I get < 1% stale.
Change to Phonex and I get between 5 and 10%.
So, buzz off and let the experts address this.
I didn't ask for amateur help.

5 to 10% is very high... I have with Claymore <1%. With Phoenix 1,5-3%...
I think that this is because of memory timings. Phoenix use memory another way...

Very possible.
I can lower the stale shares some by reducing the intensity.
I can get it around 2 to 5% if I give up hash rate.
But that negates the extra speed that Phoenix gives me.
My issue is if I get the higher hashes that Phoenix offers the stale shares goes up.

I had about 4 to 8% on Claymore before the 11.4 release.
They claimed they fixed the stale share issue. And man did they. I immediately went
to < 1% without doing any adjusting.

So, I know it can be done.
I want the increased speed that Phoenix offers and the very low stale shares.
If I get the same hash rate on Phoenix and Claymore but Claymore stale rate is <1 % and Phoenix
is 2 to 5% I'm better off going to Claymore. I had rather use Phoenix if they can address this issue.

UnclWish

sr. member

Activity: 1484

Merit: 253

Quote from: janding on March 22, 2018, 06:14:40 PM

Quote from: gsrcrxsi314 on March 22, 2018, 03:23:37 PM

Quote from: janding on March 22, 2018, 03:07:51 PM

@PhoenixMiner

I really like the stability and the speed, here it comes, but,
The stale share rate is really bad.
I have all AMD cards, on another miner I get <1 % stale shares.
PhoenixMiner gets 5% to 10% stale shares.

This really needs to be looked at. The additional hash rate that I get using Phoenix is eaten up
with stale shares. I'm loosing .35% of 5 to 10% of all the shares submitted.

I know this can be solved, I've seen it solved elsewhere.

thanks

something wrong with your setup. im using pheonix and get like 1% stales.

it's not the miner.

Sorry dude. nothing wrong with my miner.
You don't know what you're talking about.

I can change to Claymore with EXACTLY SAME SETTINGS.
I get < 1% stale.
Change to Phonex and I get between 5 and 10%.
So, buzz off and let the experts address this.
I didn't ask for amateur help.

5 to 10% is very high... I have with Claymore <1%. With Phoenix 1,5-3%...
I think that this is because of memory timings. Phoenix use memory another way...

janding

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Activity: 170

Merit: 6

Quote from: gsrcrxsi314 on March 22, 2018, 03:23:37 PM

Quote from: janding on March 22, 2018, 03:07:51 PM

@PhoenixMiner

I really like the stability and the speed, here it comes, but,
The stale share rate is really bad.
I have all AMD cards, on another miner I get <1 % stale shares.
PhoenixMiner gets 5% to 10% stale shares.

This really needs to be looked at. The additional hash rate that I get using Phoenix is eaten up
with stale shares. I'm loosing .35% of 5 to 10% of all the shares submitted.

I know this can be solved, I've seen it solved elsewhere.

thanks

something wrong with your setup. im using pheonix and get like 1% stales.

it's not the miner.

Sorry dude. nothing wrong with my miner.
You don't know what you're talking about.

I can change to Claymore with EXACTLY SAME SETTINGS.
I get < 1% stale.
Change to Phonex and I get between 5 and 10%.
So, buzz off and let the experts address this.
I didn't ask for amateur help.

Iamtutut

full member

Activity: 1120

Merit: 131

Quote from: janding on March 22, 2018, 03:07:51 PM

@PhoenixMiner

I really like the stability and the speed, here it comes, but,
The stale share rate is really bad.
I have all AMD cards, on another miner I get <1 % stale shares.
PhoenixMiner gets 5% to 10% stale shares.

This really needs to be looked at. The additional hash rate that I get using Phoenix is eaten up
with stale shares. I'm loosing .35% of 5 to 10% of all the shares submitted.

I know this can be solved, I've seen it solved elsewhere.

thanks

Phoenix + anorak.tech eth pool = 0 (I mean NONE) stale share in 28hs.
Pool is here: https://eth.anorak.tech/#/

For the last week, I had more and more stale shares on ethermine eur SSL pool.

gsrcrxsi314

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Quote from: janding on March 22, 2018, 03:07:51 PM

@PhoenixMiner

I really like the stability and the speed, here it comes, but,
The stale share rate is really bad.
I have all AMD cards, on another miner I get <1 % stale shares.
PhoenixMiner gets 5% to 10% stale shares.

This really needs to be looked at. The additional hash rate that I get using Phoenix is eaten up
with stale shares. I'm loosing .35% of 5 to 10% of all the shares submitted.

I know this can be solved, I've seen it solved elsewhere.

thanks

something wrong with your setup. im using pheonix and get like 1% stales.

it's not the miner.

janding

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Activity: 170

Merit: 6

@PhoenixMiner

I really like the stability and the speed, here it comes, but,
The stale share rate is really bad.
I have all AMD cards, on another miner I get <1 % stale shares.
PhoenixMiner gets 5% to 10% stale shares.

This really needs to be looked at. The additional hash rate that I get using Phoenix is eaten up
with stale shares. I'm loosing .35% of 5 to 10% of all the shares submitted.

I know this can be solved, I've seen it solved elsewhere.

thanks

UnclWish

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Activity: 1484

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Quote from: playfast on March 22, 2018, 10:24:10 AM

Surprised that very few in this thread have discussed playing with the graphics tuning -gt
In all likelihood the default of 15 is not optimal for most cards, you guys are definitely leaving some hash on the table.

For my RX 580 8Gb cards -gt 15 (default) is the best vaule. Any changes lower the speed.

UnclWish

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Quote from: playfast on March 22, 2018, 09:42:36 AM

Tried Phoenix and tweaked it best I could for my rx560.
Adding -mi 11 and -gt 34 maxes out my hash, ~0.1 mh/s better on average than my best tweaked Claymore.
Best improvement over Claymore was that I could underclock my core significantly more, 40 Mhz lower without losing max hash. Max stable mem clock was the same. I get noticeably less stale shares with Phoenix which is also a nice benefit so I have switched from Claymore permanently.

Did you tuned -dcri option in Claymore? On different versions of Claymore's miner optimal dcri value changes. I tuned them on Claymore 11.0 and didn't touched them on 11.3-11.5 versions. Speed stays the same on all versions. Then I tried to play with dcri volume with help "+" and "-" keys and find new best dcri volume that gives me more speed. More than Phoenix with -mi 12.

playfast

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Surprised that very few in this thread have discussed playing with the graphics tuning -gt
In all likelihood the default of 15 is not optimal for most cards, you guys are definitely leaving some hash on the table.

aurus33

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Quote from: rboer on March 22, 2018, 05:13:49 AM

HI, is there an option to have my rig reboot i the speed drops below a set point?

I see that you can restart the miner but i want to restart the rig.

thanks, Robin

I use the combination of the following:

If speeds drops below specified speed, do what's on -rmode flag
-minRigSpeed 160

1: Restart miner, 2: shudown miner and execute reboot.bat
-rmode 2

my reboot.bat has

shutdown.exe /r /t 00

Hope it helps!

playfast

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Tried Phoenix and tweaked it best I could for my rx560.
Adding -mi 11 and -gt 34 maxes out my hash, ~0.1 mh/s better on average than my best tweaked Claymore.
Best improvement over Claymore was that I could underclock my core significantly more, 40 Mhz lower without losing max hash. Max stable mem clock was the same. I get noticeably less stale shares with Phoenix which is also a nice benefit so I have switched from Claymore permanently.

vertti

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Quote from: Digital_Seytan on March 22, 2018, 05:25:17 AM

The new driver is out forr NVDIA GTX 1xxxx series 391.24 today , should provide some speed increase as well,
please try it people .This is good! .phoenix make 2.8b with dual mining please... Huh

Why do you think it would provide speed increase? The release notes mention nothing that would suggest that.

Iamtutut

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Quote from: twotwosix on March 22, 2018, 05:04:05 AM

Quote from: Iamtutut on March 22, 2018, 02:06:42 AM

For people sick with ethermine stale shares like me, use the anorak tech ETH pool:
https://eth.anorak.tech/ (SSL ok)

I have a FTTH connection, I was submitting shares to ethermine with an average 7-8ms ping and still got tens and tens of stale shares per day. Not a single stale with anorak tech pool.

Can you share your config in .bat file?

Call the file "start_miner.bat"
Then (without the " " )

"REM
REM Example bat file for starting PhoenixMiner.exe to mine ETH
REM

setx GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR 0
setx GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_SINGLE_ALLOC_PERCENT 100

REM Replace the ETH address with your own ETH wallet address in the -wal option (Rig001 is the name of the rig)
PhoenixMiner.exe -epool ssl://eth.anorak.tech:9004 -ewal YOUR OWN WALLET -eworker YOUR OWN WORKER NAME -epsw x -allpools 1
pause"

Digital_Seytan

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[email protected]

The new driver is out forr NVDIA GTX 1xxxx series 391.24 today , should provide some speed increase as well,
please try it people .This is good! .phoenix make 2.8b with dual mining please... Huh

Download :
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/131974/en-us

rboer

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HI, is there an option to have my rig reboot i the speed drops below a set point?

I see that you can restart the miner but i want to restart the rig.

thanks, Robin

twotwosix

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Quote from: Iamtutut on March 22, 2018, 02:06:42 AM

For people sick with ethermine stale shares like me, use the anorak tech ETH pool:
https://eth.anorak.tech/ (SSL ok)

I have a FTTH connection, I was submitting shares to ethermine with an average 7-8ms ping and still got tens and tens of stale shares per day. Not a single stale with anorak tech pool.

Can you share your config in .bat file?

Iamtutut

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Activity: 1120

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For people sick with ethermine stale shares like me, use the anorak tech ETH pool:
https://eth.anorak.tech/ (SSL ok)

I have a FTTH connection, I was submitting shares to ethermine with an average 7-8ms ping and still got tens and tens of stale shares per day. Not a single stale with anorak tech pool.

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