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I say, use a cheap mining system and give it a shot.  You can listen to a number of people on what you can do and there are a number of advise comments I would take into consideration, but just try it and see what happens.  You never know until you try, right.
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fit the psu and miner into a suitable perspex box drill holes in the lid for you wires to come out, fit barb fittings into the side wall, at least one in one out (depends on a pump setup) seal the box. install pump hoses and radiator with water proof fans. fill the sealed box with mineral oil.

your hardware wont get wet if it is submerged in oil  Grin
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I guess it could be a very good idea if you put them in your garage. At least inside the garage you will not have to bother with humidity and snow, but you will still be able to have them cooled and with a bigger lifespan.
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If it is that cold out, I would let the cold air seep in and allow the room not to have any hear access.  By doing this, you will make the room ourside and it will assist in the cold without being in the cold.  You could also place a dehumidifier in the room which will allow you to make the room as dry as possible, however I still feel you will have an issue with condensation on the heat sinks of the units.

In the winter, if you leave your miner at home, it will heat the room and raise the temperature. the higher temperature will make the air less humid. You do  not need a dehumidifier.

Yes, I also thought that condensation on the heat sinks of the units will not happen, because of the high temperature AND constantly working fans.
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If it is that cold out, I would let the cold air seep in and allow the room not to have any hear access.  By doing this, you will make the room ourside and it will assist in the cold without being in the cold.  You could also place a dehumidifier in the room which will allow you to make the room as dry as possible, however I still feel you will have an issue with condensation on the heat sinks of the units.

In the winter, if you leave your miner at home, it will heat the room and raise the temperature. the higher temperature will make the air less humid. You do  not need a dehumidifier.
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If it is that cold out, I would let the cold air seep in and allow the room not to have any hear access.  By doing this, you will make the room ourside and it will assist in the cold without being in the cold.  You could also place a dehumidifier in the room which will allow you to make the room as dry as possible, however I still feel you will have an issue with condensation on the heat sinks of the units.
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What types of damage could the machine takes if they are placed outside in the scandinavian winter.

whit roof . no walls ?

any overclock pocibilities?


Let's say s5 machines sp20s ?

this is the idea.

The Blow will be outside and the intake will be pulled from downside.


PLacing the Miners on the balconi the intake should not bring any moisture from the downside.

Weather is pretty dry were i live.

The little box will be weather prooff so no water or snow will be getting inside.




First of all, i love your Paint skills.

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The idea is good but make sure to protect your miners against any form of liquid (rain, snow, frost etc.).  Cooling won't be your problem and if your energy cost are low to very low,

Why not give it a try
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November 11, 2015, 01:48:22 PM
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The largest issue you would face would be the condensation.  Because of the heat that is thrown off and the drastic temperature difference, you would have an issues with the condensation.  The hot air would rapidly cool/condense causing all the moisture in the air to get heavy and drop.  It would be like putting a warm glass of ice outside during the summer.  Now if you could eliminate the moisture in the sir and find a way to circulate the cold air into the system, then you would be able to do this.
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November 11, 2015, 04:26:19 AM
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Well, if it's a balcony like in the image you drew, you have to be aware of a few factors.

- Ice buildup
- Animals and insects
- Scandinavian cold air might be too cold and damage the hardware

But there are also some pros.

- Natural cooling, no cost
- No need for housing for your money


I have an idea. My friend asked me about this idea. Instead of an in-house heater, you use a miner and route it into your house, and an air filter inside the miner too. You can build it in a slot in your wall, so there's no snow.
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November 06, 2015, 03:36:34 AM
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Bitcoins machine for mining are used for good earnings in btc..
But, in cold conditions you can face problems.
Thermal stress will reduce your equipment's lifespan and blowing snow will get through your HVAC and destroy the machines.
So make sure it's not exposed in direct cold. That is snowfall (if it happens in your area) or rainfall (definitely not) as it will cause a damage to the machine. So be careful. It is rightly Said that prevention is better than cure.

I doubt anybody using a miner is worried about the longevity of the miner beyond one year's time so issues like humidity damaging the PCB might not be such as issue.  Snow melting and then getting flung by a 4000 RPM fan and causing a short will put down pretty much any miner in seconds.

When the miner manufacturer sell the machine they will price it in such as way that the ROI is about 6 month with some difficulty rise assumptions. The machine will be unprofitable after 8 month. So the life span of a machine is less than 8 month depending on your electricity price.
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November 05, 2015, 01:28:06 AM
#96
Bitcoins machine for mining are used for good earnings in btc..
But, in cold conditions you can face problems.
Thermal stress will reduce your equipment's lifespan and blowing snow will get through your HVAC and destroy the machines.
So make sure it's not exposed in direct cold. That is snowfall (if it happens in your area) or rainfall (definitely not) as it will cause a damage to the machine. So be careful. It is rightly Said that prevention is better than cure.

I doubt anybody using a miner is worried about the longevity of the miner beyond one year's time so issues like humidity damaging the PCB might not be such as issue.  Snow melting and then getting flung by a 4000 RPM fan and causing a short will put down pretty much any miner in seconds.
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November 03, 2015, 09:44:38 AM
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Bitcoins machine for mining are used for good earnings in btc..
But, in cold conditions you can face problems.
Thermal stress will reduce your equipment's lifespan and blowing snow will get through your HVAC and destroy the machines.
So make sure it's not exposed in direct cold. That is snowfall (if it happens in your area) or rainfall (definitely not) as it will cause a damage to the machine. So be careful. It is rightly Said that prevention is better than cure.
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November 03, 2015, 09:31:02 AM
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No walls? What about rain/snow? Tongue Condensation might be a problem I guess?

This is the one time condensation could be a factor to if your gpu's are working afterwards or not. Haha.
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November 03, 2015, 07:40:52 AM
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Haha yeah i am not using that PSU anymore,, ill be making copper wiring only then.

I got massive ammount of copper wiring Wink so is no problem.


one thing i wonder is, if i connect 4x 12v together, do they add up as 48v or they mainan at 12v ?

The miners will usually use +12v input. If you connect 4 +12V in parallel to the miner, the +12V should remain at +12V or slightly less because of the strong current.

Without load, the +12V could be +12.08V, with power output, the +12V could be +11.89V. It depends on the quality of the power supply and the current.
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Contacts from PSU är made of Bronze, connected to the copper wirings, and then to Aluminium cables. so its kinda a nice mix up haha Grin.


look.

you need to unplug this death trap NOW.

aluminum and copper wiring DO NOT PLAY WELL TOGETHER.

I agree. Since the aluminum wiring expands when it is warmed and contracts when cool much more then a copper one I suggest OP to use copper wiring only. I know that the copper wiring is more expensive but it is worth the price IMO.

I think were all in agreement.  But I don't think OP will be doing this from his view on the wiring.   I don't think he truly  understands how scary it is.

I mean you go to sleep... if that thing catches fire in middle of night that would be horrible.  Make sure you have a lot of fire alarms in your house as that wiring truly is unsafe.


Haha yeah i am not using that PSU anymore,, ill be making copper wiring only then.

I got massive ammount of copper wiring Wink so is no problem.


one thing i wonder is, if i connect 4x 12v together, do they add up as 48v or they mainan at 12v ?

That depends on how you connect them, series or parallel. With parallel you'll have same 12v, but with series you'll have 48 v so be careful. Maybe you should consult with an electrician.
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Contacts from PSU är made of Bronze, connected to the copper wirings, and then to Aluminium cables. so its kinda a nice mix up haha Grin.


look.

you need to unplug this death trap NOW.

aluminum and copper wiring DO NOT PLAY WELL TOGETHER.

I agree. Since the aluminum wiring expands when it is warmed and contracts when cool much more then a copper one I suggest OP to use copper wiring only. I know that the copper wiring is more expensive but it is worth the price IMO.

I think were all in agreement.  But I don't think OP will be doing this from his view on the wiring.   I don't think he truly  understands how scary it is.

I mean you go to sleep... if that thing catches fire in middle of night that would be horrible.  Make sure you have a lot of fire alarms in your house as that wiring truly is unsafe.


Haha yeah i am not using that PSU anymore,, ill be making copper wiring only then.

I got massive ammount of copper wiring Wink so is no problem.


one thing i wonder is, if i connect 4x 12v together, do they add up as 48v or they mainan at 12v ?
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Rain, Snow, Direct sunlight...

These things can cause damage to your machine.

Beside these, the natural cooling mechanism is a good idea.
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Contacts from PSU är made of Bronze, connected to the copper wirings, and then to Aluminium cables. so its kinda a nice mix up haha Grin.


look.

you need to unplug this death trap NOW.

aluminum and copper wiring DO NOT PLAY WELL TOGETHER.

I agree. Since the aluminum wiring expands when it is warmed and contracts when cool much more then a copper one I suggest OP to use copper wiring only. I know that the copper wiring is more expensive but it is worth the price IMO.

I think were all in agreement.  But I don't think OP will be doing this from his view on the wiring.   I don't think he truly  understands how scary it is.

I mean you go to sleep... if that thing catches fire in middle of night that would be horrible.  Make sure you have a lot of fire alarms in your house as that wiring truly is unsafe.
legendary
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Contacts from PSU är made of Bronze, connected to the copper wirings, and then to Aluminium cables. so its kinda a nice mix up haha Grin.


look.

you need to unplug this death trap NOW.

aluminum and copper wiring DO NOT PLAY WELL TOGETHER.

I agree. Since the aluminum wiring expands when it is warmed and contracts when cool much more then a copper one I suggest OP to use copper wiring only. I know that the copper wiring is more expensive but it is worth the price IMO.
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Contacts from PSU är made of Bronze, connected to the copper wirings, and then to Aluminium cables. so its kinda a nice mix up haha Grin.


look.

you need to unplug this death trap NOW.

aluminum and copper wiring DO NOT PLAY WELL TOGETHER.
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