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full member
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January 08, 2016, 02:02:16 AM
hope this gets worked out for you, they always seemed like a reputable site to me.
newbie
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January 08, 2016, 01:42:58 AM
maybe their still raising funds to pay the 84 BTC payout. a big wake up call not to withdraw big amount in one go,

They said they have their wallet filled.

It's just a matter of time. I just have to be patient. Only one week left!
hero member
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January 08, 2016, 01:40:22 AM
maybe their still raising funds to pay the 84 BTC payout. a big wake up call not to withdraw big amount in one go,
full member
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January 07, 2016, 08:43:38 PM
If they don't pay him out then they're effectively finished here.

They have a choice - pay him the 84 bitcoin & continue running a trusted site & make profits for an unlimited time

Or

Scam him & pretty much end their business with a destroyed reputation over 84 bitcoin.

For the above reason I'm confident they'll pay him out.

Maybe there's a third option: come up with a semi-convincing story about how OP cheated.

He played "live roulette", which generally means FJ paid some third-party company to spin a roulette wheel and broadcast video of it happening, while FJ took bets on the outcome. I don't know what assurance FJ have that the company spinning the wheel is broadcasting it live rather than with a 60 second delay. Such a delay would give them plenty of time to place bets on the number that already came up.

I guess this kind of cheating is what they are worried about, but I've no idea how you would go about proving or disproving it. I expect you just have to trust the third-party video feed provider that they won't play against you, felay the feed, use an unbalanced wheel, etc. Provable fairness cuts both ways.

In this scenario, the only way it would be feasible is to have the live casino provider issue a statement about how something was taken advantage I would think.  There have been many big winners in live casinos posted here and it is perfectly feasible to legitimately win 84 btc.  FJ must do the appropriate due diligence but FJ is trusted and if it is found to be legitimate, I do expect OP to be paid in full. 
hero member
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January 07, 2016, 01:43:46 PM

Since it was such a large amount, FJ had to approve it, but within a couple days it was good to go, and I was very happy with it.


This should've been your first alarm bell. There is absolutely no reason for them to stall withdrawal for "a couple of days". What the actual fuck?

My first thought would be : insolvent, scam, dishonest.




Most btc books and casinos dont have a proper bankroll, and operate on the assumption that they will never face a big downswing. But when it happens - they stall, bring up the "fraud team", accuse you of cheating, etc.

Dont have any illusions - if they will decide that its more profitable for them to peace out with your coins and open a new site - they will do it INSTANTLY.
legendary
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January 07, 2016, 01:28:43 PM
If they don't pay him out then they're effectively finished here.

They have a choice - pay him the 84 bitcoin & continue running a trusted site & make profits for an unlimited time

Or

Scam him & pretty much end their business with a destroyed reputation over 84 bitcoin.

For the above reason I'm confident they'll pay him out.

Maybe there's a third option: come up with a semi-convincing story about how OP cheated.

He played "live roulette", which generally means FJ paid some third-party company to spin a roulette wheel and broadcast video of it happening, while FJ took bets on the outcome. I don't know what assurance FJ have that the company spinning the wheel is broadcasting it live rather than with a 60 second delay. Such a delay would give them plenty of time to place bets on the number that already came up.

I guess this kind of cheating is what they are worried about, but I've no idea how you would go about proving or disproving it. I expect you just have to trust the third-party video feed provider that they won't play against you, felay the feed, use an unbalanced wheel, etc. Provable fairness cuts both ways.

This is certainly an option. This is why i really do not like the third party games that are provided to the various casinos. There is no way of really proving to the player and the house that everything is provably fair and not being manipulated. This is why i avoid all those games.
legendary
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January 07, 2016, 01:02:05 PM
If they don't pay him out then they're effectively finished here.

They have a choice - pay him the 84 bitcoin & continue running a trusted site & make profits for an unlimited time

Or

Scam him & pretty much end their business with a destroyed reputation over 84 bitcoin.

For the above reason I'm confident they'll pay him out.

Maybe there's a third option: come up with a semi-convincing story about how OP cheated.

He played "live roulette", which generally means FJ paid some third-party company to spin a roulette wheel and broadcast video of it happening, while FJ took bets on the outcome. I don't know what assurance FJ have that the company spinning the wheel is broadcasting it live rather than with a 60 second delay. Such a delay would give them plenty of time to place bets on the number that already came up.

I guess this kind of cheating is what they are worried about, but I've no idea how you would go about proving or disproving it. I expect you just have to trust the third-party video feed provider that they won't play against you, felay the feed, use an unbalanced wheel, etc. Provable fairness cuts both ways.
legendary
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January 07, 2016, 12:28:17 PM
If they don't pay him out then they're effectively finished here.

They have a choice - pay him the 84 bitcoin & continue running a trusted site & make profits for an unlimited time

Or

Scam him & pretty much end their business with a destroyed reputation over 84 bitcoin.

For the above reason I'm confident they'll pay him out.

They have paid over 100 btc before to a user so what makes you think he wont be paid? It has been said that fortunejack will be checking his win and after 10 working days if his winning is legit then he will get his withdrawal, all he has to do is wait since I believe he won that without any fraud
hero member
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January 07, 2016, 12:00:16 PM
#99
What a lucky person won 84 BTC just amazing that is really huge winning amount over $37k, congrats buddy for this fucking luck and i am hopeful you'll get paid just have little more patience.
hero member
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January 07, 2016, 11:55:33 AM
#98
You are soooooo lucky, if i could be you, i will be ridiculously rich, you made 84 pure profit, but you should play in another better casino, i think many other casinos won't hold your fund for so long time, 1-2 days is maximum period.
legendary
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January 07, 2016, 11:25:37 AM
#97
I think that is normal that casinos hold big winnings to be sure that its a legal winning, but i don't know how many time could it take. I think that one week or ten days are enough to look about it. And i don't think that Fortunejack would ruin its reputation scaming an user, the reputatoin is very important on bitcoin casinos.
legendary
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January 07, 2016, 10:54:42 AM
#96
If they don't pay him out then they're effectively finished here.

They have a choice - pay him the 84 bitcoin & continue running a trusted site & make profits for an unlimited time

Or

Scam him & pretty much end their business with a destroyed reputation over 84 bitcoin.

For the above reason I'm confident they'll pay him out.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1013
January 07, 2016, 10:50:46 AM
#95
Man, just fill scam accusation already. 3 weeks are 3 weeks. Scam accusation will put some pressure on FortuneJack. They are getting out of line.

Where did you read about this 3 weeks from? fortunejack has stated that it will takes 10 working days so if they work 5 days a week then that would only be two weeks instead of 3 weeks. Obviously you need to read more before putting stupid not needed post here and of course you need to learn to count
legendary
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January 07, 2016, 10:46:22 AM
#94
Man, just fill scam accusation already. 3 weeks are 3 weeks. Scam accusation will put some pressure on FortuneJack. They are getting out of line.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
January 07, 2016, 02:42:00 AM
#93
i think you will get your winnings as they have plenty of BTC in there wallets
see this https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/FortuneJack.com

I wonder how accurate it is. I put one of the addresses of my wallets in and it seems to have linked it with MtGox and 40k BTC (?!) when in reality the wallet (only) has 28.09 BTC.

I can only hope that they have enough to cover my winnings. From what I've heard, they've paid out higher so I guess I shouldn't worry.

I just wonder why 10 business days is necessary for a live game.
legendary
Activity: 1463
Merit: 1886
January 07, 2016, 12:34:32 AM
#92
i think you will get your winnings as they have plenty of BTC in there wallets
see this https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/FortuneJack.com

I wonder how accurate it is. I put one of the addresses of my wallets in and it seems to have linked it with MtGox and 40k BTC (?!) when in reality the wallet (only) has 28.09 BTC.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
January 06, 2016, 11:21:21 PM
#91
You should've cashed out in little amounts (but then you couldve gotten banned)

Yes, they usually take this long. Fj has a relatively small wallet, nearing 150 BTC. If you happen to win more than half of that, it'll be a huge hit against them. They're either trying to find an excuse or quadruple checking the leitimacy of your bets.

Did you win through skill, or luck?

I like to say skill sometimes, because I bet on colors that haven't come up in a while, or I'll bet evens when there have been a few odds in a row, and I'll bet on 3rds when the set of 12 hasn't been called in a while.

In all honesty, though, I'd be a fool if I thought it wasn't complete luck. Each game has the same chance of landing 1-36 or 0, so there is no real "skill" in it.

As long as I remember that it's all luck, I tend to cash out while I'm ahead. I make crazy high risk bets, but only when I know I can afford to lose them.

This time I just got insanely lucky. I really hope they deposit soon. I'm just really eager now.
sr. member
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January 06, 2016, 09:53:16 PM
#90
You should've cashed out in little amounts (but then you couldve gotten banned)

Yes, they usually take this long. Fj has a relatively small wallet, nearing 150 BTC. If you happen to win more than half of that, it'll be a huge hit against them. They're either trying to find an excuse or quadruple checking the leitimacy of your bets.

Did you win through skill, or luck?
sr. member
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January 06, 2016, 09:45:36 PM
#89
Wow, 84 btc is pretty hefty amount spend it wisely and gamble smart. You are the choosen few who got luck on this casinos.
newbie
Activity: 28
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January 06, 2016, 09:42:05 PM
#88
Hi
well done on the Big win
i think you will get your winnings as they have plenty of BTC in there wallets
see this https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/FortuneJack.com

Sites like this can not afford and issues with wins like this
so they will take there time and check things  are 100 % before any payout is made.





Yeahhh , fortunejack already paid kweniboo worth 160+ btc for win in their slot previously. And their hot wallet as you said above contains over 100 btc it means they are ready to pay off just the matter of time.
Just be patient and don't worry, fortunejack are one of trusted bitcoin gambling site and they Wouldn't ruin their reputation for case like this.


Yea I'm not too worried anymore. I didn't know how big they were before I came to bitcointalk.

Still wish it didn't take 3 weeks.
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